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Offline triciaaruba

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help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« on: September 12, 2010, 05:24:27 PM »
help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
kahit hindi nakaon ang phantom
solution?

Offline CodeOne

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2010, 06:41:43 PM »
Ang solution jan sir maglagay ka ng earth ground sa system mo..

Offline aquaracer168

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2010, 07:22:02 PM »
panong earth ground sir?

may nakita ako event dati, yun tao may hawak na wired mic tapos nag bukas ng gate, nakuryente yun tao hindi matangal yun kamay niya sa gate dahil sa ground ng wired mic. baka dahil hindi balance yun mic cables?

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2010, 07:54:30 PM »
always use the green wire  :lol:

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 08:01:18 PM »
help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
kahit hindi nakaon ang phantom
solution?
Earth ground lang. Ganito: Chassis Ground ng mga amps rack to EARTH GROUND, your longest SCREW DRIVER will do. Just tap a wire.
Same with the mixer... kahit yung mixer lang ang i-earth ground mo OK na.

The problem is: Paano kung puro concrete floors ang nasa paligid? hirap niyan... EARTH GROUND the MAIN LINE. ( make sure you ground the " ground " ... not the live hehehehe )
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 08:03:41 PM »
MAG WIRELESS MIC KA NA LANG.... and ENJOY!
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 08:28:23 PM »
Ang solution jan sir maglagay ka ng earth ground sa system mo..

+1... tama sir, no body believed me till i showed them. your system is quieter and safer :-D
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 09:46:57 PM »
always use the green wire  :lol:



+1... karamihan kasi sa may mga sound system, pinuputol or hindi ginagamit yung 3rd wire (Green), kaya madalas ma ground yung Vocalist & Guitarist sa wired vocal mic.

a good read... http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/stopping_hums_buzzes_and_shocks_on_stage_part_1_volts/

 :roll:
« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 09:49:36 PM by sl1200ltd »

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2010, 01:21:13 AM »
if your outlets are three-gang, pero yung power-lines mo e two-wire naman(Live-Ground), what's the sense?

Still, you have to do something for the Green wire...
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 02:13:23 AM »
+1 din sa earth ground. you only need to connect the equipment chassis to earth even via a thin piece of wire tapos alligator clips lang para ikabet sa equipment... it will save lives.

as for the ground spot pag puro concrete talaga ang lugar you may try the nearest sink at ikabit sa water conduit pero pag wala na talaga sa mga aluminum holders ng jalousey or any large metallic object but its not a guarantee. yung telephone cabling grounded yun diba?

for live/mobile set-ups you may bring with you a long iron rod with a length of wire attached to it. just stoke the rod as deep as you can to the ground and you may even pour water to enhance conductivity with ground.

avoid connecting multiple equipment/chassis ground to one iron rod as this may cause ground loop hums.

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2010, 02:48:05 AM »
one time na ground ako sa labi tapos nagreklamo ako sa tech. sabi sakin, 'naka tsinelas ka kasi eh'. sabi ko 'dapat ba nag-paa nlng ako?'

napaka-mangmang na tao.
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2010, 07:20:04 AM »
Earth ground lang. Ganito: Chassis Ground ng mga amps rack to EARTH GROUND, your longest SCREW DRIVER will do. Just tap a wire.
Same with the mixer... kahit yung mixer lang ang i-earth ground mo OK na.

The problem is: Paano kung puro concrete floors ang nasa paligid? hirap niyan... EARTH GROUND the MAIN LINE. ( make sure you ground the " ground " ... not the live hehehehe )

look for the nearest water pipe, scrape off any paint or dirt off the pipe and wrap your ground wire around that.....next question...how do you check if your connection is good?  get your tester and set it to test impedance and check if there is continuity between the pipe and the other end of your ground wire.  again, just scrape off a bit of paint a few inches away from where you  tapped your ground wire.

N.B.:   make sure that that pipe is part of their current water system and is of iron, not PVC......(it may sound stupid but I have seen others people tap on PVC)
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2010, 08:58:02 AM »
sir yun extra wire na manipis sa snake cable na kasama sa mga xlr yun ba yung pang earth ground?

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 08:59:25 AM »
(it may sound stupid but I have seen others people tap on PVC)

should have taken a pic and posted it somewhere. classic.
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2010, 09:26:29 AM »
should have taken a pic and posted it somewhere. classic.

Hi Kit,

it should go under the "Only In The Philippines" banner.....kinaskas pa ang PVC, dun ako natawa lalo!
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2010, 09:36:45 AM »
+1 din sa earth ground. you only need to connect the equipment chassis to earth even via a thin piece of wire tapos alligator clips lang para ikabet sa equipment... it will save lives.

as for the ground spot pag puro concrete talaga ang lugar you may try the nearest sink at ikabit sa water conduit pero pag wala na talaga sa mga aluminum holders ng jalousey or any large metallic object but its not a guarantee. yung telephone cabling grounded yun diba?

for live/mobile set-ups you may bring with you a long iron rod with a length of wire attached to it. just stoke the rod as deep as you can to the ground and you may even pour water to enhance conductivity with ground.

avoid connecting multiple equipment/chassis ground to one iron rod as this may cause ground loop hums.
water plus SALT...
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 10:00:46 AM »
water plus SALT...

will eat away GI pipes and copper wire like crazy.
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 12:48:22 PM »
should have taken a pic and posted it somewhere. classic.

A long time ago i did see one of my collegue's trying to add oil in his engine using the small hole for the dipstick, same problem, no picture............... and that was not in the Phillipines :-D

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 01:00:08 PM »
Hi Kit,

it should go under the "Only In The Philippines" banner.....kinaskas pa ang PVC, dun ako natawa lalo!

hehe.napatawa ako.sana walang gumaya..

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 08:43:14 PM »
gamit ang tester pwede bang matest in advance kung possibleng me ground ang isang mic bago gamitin?

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2010, 09:01:19 PM »
gamit ang tester pwede bang matest in advance kung possibleng me ground ang isang mic bago gamitin?

pwede, i set sa Volts AC ang tester, connect 1 probe on mic or mixer chassis, hold other tester probe and step on floor with no footwear.. papalo ang tester if analog and may reading if digital,, no danger of electric shock kasi high impedance ang voltmeter

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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2010, 08:57:05 PM »
medyo Off topic, tanong ko lang pano ko malalagyan ng ground yung output jack ng guitar ko? kase pag hawak ko yung output jack ng guitar ko nawawala yung hum ng amp ko pero pag binitawan ko nagkakaroon ng hum, yung amp ko kase pinutol ng taga yamaha yuung ground wire niya bago ko pa yun nabili.
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2010, 11:00:19 AM »
medyo Off topic, tanong ko lang pano ko malalagyan ng ground yung output jack ng guitar ko? kase pag hawak ko yung output jack ng guitar ko nawawala yung hum ng amp ko pero pag binitawan ko nagkakaroon ng hum, yung amp ko kase pinutol ng taga yamaha yuung ground wire niya bago ko pa yun nabili.

very OT and more suited for GC than here, but check the ground wire from the pots to the bridge.
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Re: help, bakit minsan may ground ang wired mic?
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2010, 01:19:49 PM »
salamat sir kitc, irerepost ko na lang ito sa GC
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