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Offline jun_BALARAW

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« on: September 26, 2006, 04:41:30 PM »
hey guys... i have my new Sabian AA 17" Medium thin crash.. nabili ko kahapon lang sa friend ni GEP.
problema ko lang kasi burado na yung tatak niyang AA eh... so pano kaya ma rerestore ito? may nabibili ba ditong logo refreshener?? ano kaya pwedeng alternates???

sana matulungan niyo o guys!

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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2006, 04:49:51 PM »
Alam ko may ino-offer ang Sabian na logo kit.  Pero I think it's only the Sabian logo.  I'm not sure.  I hope JP can answer this.

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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2006, 04:53:53 PM »
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Alam ko may ino-offer ang Sabian na logo kit.  Pero I think it's only the Sabian logo.  I'm not sure.  I hope JP can answer this.

yup i know meron ang sabian.. kaso sino marunong maglagay?? kasi as in buradong burado ang AA logo... so wala na kong pattern sa paglagay..
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2006, 07:38:28 PM »
high school friend ko made stencil cut outs of both zilddjian and sabian then placed em on silk screens then spray painted the patterns on his old cymbals. not very OEM but very ingenious and resourceful way of restoring the logo. silkscreen printing materials are available at national bookstore outlets whilst spraypaints at truevalue or any hardware shops.

shempre before applying the pattern onto the cymbal, practice mo muna on another surface. use at least 3-step coating, dont go all out on the first coat kasi kakalat yung excess paint or will slide down the cymbal (very ugly scenario, u dont want this to happen)

yung sa sabian are stencil cutouts or patterns as well but instead of spraycans, u use marker/pentel pen.

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2006, 08:40:19 PM »
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high school friend ko made stencil cut outs of both zilddjian and sabian then placed em on silk screens then spray painted the patterns on his old cymbals. not very OEM but very ingenious and resourceful way of restoring the logo. silkscreen printing materials are available at national bookstore outlets whilst spraypaints at truevalue or any hardware shops.

shempre before applying the pattern onto the cymbal, practice mo muna on another surface. use at least 3-step coating, dont go all out on the first coat kasi kakalat yung excess paint or will slide down the cymbal (very ugly scenario, u dont want this to happen)

yung sa sabian are stencil cutouts or patterns as well but instead of spraycans, u use marker/pentel pen.

 :D

1. ganyan din ba yung pag gawa ng logo sa damit????
2. so pwede din ba sa bakal yan??
3. so sabian ang cymbals ko so dapat wag spray paint ang gamitin ko pentel pen pwede na??
4. panong 3 step coating??

sir bangbus. paki sagot naman lahat ng questions ko ^^^ thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2006, 08:58:18 PM »
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high school friend ko made stencil cut outs of both zilddjian and sabian then placed em on silk screens then spray painted the patterns on his old cymbals. not very OEM but very ingenious and resourceful way of restoring the logo. silkscreen printing materials are available at national bookstore outlets whilst spraypaints at truevalue or any hardware shops.

shempre before applying the pattern onto the cymbal, practice mo muna on another surface. use at least 3-step coating, dont go all out on the first coat kasi kakalat yung excess paint or will slide down the cymbal (very ugly scenario, u dont want this to happen)

yung sa sabian are stencil cutouts or patterns as well but instead of spraycans, u use marker/pentel pen.

 :D

1. ganyan din ba yung pag gawa ng logo sa damit????
2. so pwede din ba sa bakal yan??
3. so sabian ang cymbals ko so dapat wag spray paint ang gamitin ko pentel pen pwede na??
4. panong 3 step coating??

sir bangbus. paki sagot naman lahat ng questions ko ^^^ thanks!


1. yes ganyan yung pang damit/old-school textile printing
2. pwede sa bakal basta u dont use textile paint, use Tamiya model spraypaint, avail at Lils Hobbyshop, this is the spraypaint my friend used, i cannot vouch for other brands of spraypaints
3. depende na sayo, use and apply at your own risk, dont blame me if mali gawa mo ha, pero i could imagine na pag pentel pen di pantay yung printout whilst with Tamiya spraypaint kaya maging pantay basta even and coating by coating yung application.
4. spray a little, leave to dry, spray a little, leave to dry, spray a little leave to dry, repeat until you cover all the spray areas evenly. time consuming? yes--wag kang magmadali, be patient when painting.

again, use and apply only at your own risk. i havent tried this myself but i have seen my pal do it with his cymbals and toys, and it looks good. also he is knowledgeable of painting coz he's a R/C car and model airplane hobbyist.

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2006, 08:47:50 AM »
magandang araw ng pagtatambol sa yo pare ko..ganito na lang pare, kung gusto mo..bili ka na lang nun sabian na logo sa amin..and we (me and my assistant bea) will be gladly help you put the stencil for you for free..free..free..free.free..libre..libre..libre..haha...or kung ayaw mo na libre..treat mo na lang kami ni bea ng red horse o kaya vodka tonic..tamang tama may dencios sa tapat namin..haha...hapi drumming pare ko :D

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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2006, 09:15:15 AM »
JP matanong ko lang, ano ang best way para mabalik sa dating looks nya ang cymbals??? kasi yung hats ni Robert medumi pa rin eh, nilinis ko na using Sabian cymbal cleaner pero madumi pa rin eh, Hope you can help Bro, Thanks...
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2006, 09:17:06 AM »
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
hey guys... i have my new Sabian AA 17" Medium thin crash.. nabili ko kahapon lang sa friend ni GEP.
problema ko lang kasi burado na yung tatak niyang AA eh... so pano kaya ma rerestore ito? may nabibili ba ditong logo refreshener?? ano kaya pwedeng alternates???

sana matulungan niyo o guys!

thanks...
jun_balaraw


Pre the best way is to sell me the cymbal at the same price you bought it hahahaha, inunahan mo ko eh hehehe, sana may magbenta ng murang AA or AAX na crash hehehehe...
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2006, 09:28:50 AM »
ayun... halatang tumador..
hehehe..
joke..


ayun naman pala jun, tutulungan ka ni JP and Bea.
punta na sa pearl/sabian showroom!
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2006, 10:37:37 AM »
tama ka dun pare ko..alak at yosi lang masaya na kami...teka samahan mo na din ng isaw at kwek kwek para masaya ang drumtalk natin :D ..haha

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2006, 11:37:26 AM »
aba aba jp/.. hehehe... dencios pa gusto nito hahaha.. kwek kwek na lang pare hahaha...

so pano... kayo na maglalagay nung logo ng AA tapos meron pa yung medium thin crash sa ilalim diba??

magkano naman yun?? yung sabian na logo ko ok pa naman, ang burado lang is yung AA logo plus yung iba pang nakasulat sa baba ng AA...
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2006, 11:38:58 AM »
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JP matanong ko lang, ano ang best way para mabalik sa dating looks nya ang cymbals??? kasi yung hats ni Robert medumi pa rin eh, nilinis ko na using Sabian cymbal cleaner pero madumi pa rin eh, Hope you can help Bro, Thanks...

pare... ang maganda diyan.. ibenta mo sakin yang stage hats mo ng same price din sigurado tanggal ang dumi niyan. hehehe...
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2006, 05:52:15 PM »
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hey guys... i have my new Sabian AA 17" Medium thin crash.. nabili ko kahapon lang sa friend ni GEP.
problema ko lang kasi burado na yung tatak niyang AA eh... so pano kaya ma rerestore ito? may nabibili ba ditong logo refreshener?? ano kaya pwedeng alternates???

sana matulungan niyo o guys!

thanks...
jun_balaraw


Pre the best way is to sell me the cymbal at the same price you bought it hahahaha, inunahan mo ko eh hehehe, sana may magbenta ng murang AA or AAX na crash hehehehe...



ganito yun pareng dennis..depende kasi sa cymbals yan, yan certain cymbal ni robert ay natural finish so hindi talaga sya makintab, ngayon regarding sa dumi, depende din kung gano na ba kadumi, ganito pare....tulad nga ng sabi ko..alak lang katapat namin hehe, punta ka dito at patingin ng sitwasyon ng cymbals mo, mas madali ko malalaman pare kung pano diskarte natin dyan alryt.. :D

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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2006, 09:07:31 PM »
Hey brothers. I don't see the point why we need to put and show-off the logos' of these cymbals specially when you're not an endorser. They get free advertisement from us. But we don't gain anything from them. :) Prestige? I dont think so. I'd love to get rid of the Logo's in a clean way but I don't know what chemical would work without damaging the finish or metal.

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2006, 11:13:08 PM »
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Hey brothers. I don't see the point why we need to put and show-off the logos' of these cymbals specially when you're not an endorser. They get free advertisement from us. But we don't gain anything from them. :) Prestige? I dont think so. I'd love to get rid of the Logo's in a clean way but I don't know what chemical would work without damaging the finish or metal.


if u really want to: try rubbing em with regular cymbal cleaners, you'll notice that cymbal cleaners are very magical logo erasers as well. dual purpose!

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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2006, 11:56:29 AM »
eh kung ipa "arts and signs" ko na lang??
yung nag tatatak ng mga t-shirt?? atleast sila na bahala sa pag stencil ng logo....

tingin niyo??
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2006, 04:57:42 PM »
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eh kung ipa "arts and signs" ko na lang??
yung nag tatatak ng mga t-shirt?? atleast sila na bahala sa pag stencil ng logo....

tingin niyo??


that would be great so that you could assure yourself of a good stencil outcome, assumin you select an experienced graphic artist...but do not use textile paint ha.

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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2006, 05:00:32 PM »
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eh kung ipa "arts and signs" ko na lang??
yung nag tatatak ng mga t-shirt?? atleast sila na bahala sa pag stencil ng logo....

tingin niyo??


that would be great so that you could assure yourself of a good stencil outcome, assumin you select an experienced graphic artist...but do not use textile paint ha.

 :D

nakausap ko kanina yung sa arts & sign na kapit bahay namin...
sabi niya kaya niya daw gayahin yung logo.. kaso hindi daw stencil ang gagamitin niya... mano2 niya daw gagayahin yung logo.. so kamay lang talaga gagamitin niya.. ok kaya yun??

hindi ba nagbago yung tunog ng cymbals ng friend mo nung pininturahan?

thanks bro!
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2006, 06:23:27 PM »
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eh kung ipa "arts and signs" ko na lang??
yung nag tatatak ng mga t-shirt?? atleast sila na bahala sa pag stencil ng logo....

tingin niyo??


that would be great so that you could assure yourself of a good stencil outcome, assumin you select an experienced graphic artist...but do not use textile paint ha.

 :D

nakausap ko kanina yung sa arts & sign na kapit bahay namin...
sabi niya kaya niya daw gayahin yung logo.. kaso hindi daw stencil ang gagamitin niya... mano2 niya daw gagayahin yung logo.. so kamay lang talaga gagamitin niya.. ok kaya yun??

hindi ba nagbago yung tunog ng cymbals ng friend mo nung pininturahan?

thanks bro!


if u firmly believe your neighbour can nail the logo accurately as that of a stencil, go for it. i would suggest stencil pa rin para at least you can see the 'outcome' na through the stencil before it is applied. at least pag medyo sablay yung stencil pattern pwede pa ulitin whereas the manomano style could get messy pag nagkamali. its up to you bro. i didnt hear any particular or obvious difference with my friend's cymbal after the 'artwork' since his coating was thin but neatly done. yung kay joey jordison nga eh, his rudes are painted white, pero rude parin.    

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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2006, 06:28:01 PM »
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eh kung ipa "arts and signs" ko na lang??
yung nag tatatak ng mga t-shirt?? atleast sila na bahala sa pag stencil ng logo....

tingin niyo??


that would be great so that you could assure yourself of a good stencil outcome, assumin you select an experienced graphic artist...but do not use textile paint ha.

 :D

nakausap ko kanina yung sa arts & sign na kapit bahay namin...
sabi niya kaya niya daw gayahin yung logo.. kaso hindi daw stencil ang gagamitin niya... mano2 niya daw gagayahin yung logo.. so kamay lang talaga gagamitin niya.. ok kaya yun??

hindi ba nagbago yung tunog ng cymbals ng friend mo nung pininturahan?

thanks bro!


if u firmly believe your neighbour can nail the logo accurately as that of a stencil, go for it. i would suggest stencil pa rin para at least you can see the 'outcome' na through the stencil before it is applied. at least pag medyo sablay yung stencil pattern pwede pa ulitin whereas the manomano style could get messy pag nagkamali. its up to you bro. i didnt hear any particular or obvious difference with my friend's cymbal after the 'artwork' since his coating was thin but neatly done. yung kay joey jordison nga eh, his rudes are painted white, pero rude parin.    

:D

ok bro salamat... nag dadalawang isip nga ako dun eh... pero matanda na siya so talagang bihasa na.. kaso duda ako sa mano-mano style niya... pero sabi niya libre lang daw niya gagawin yung logo ko kasi kapitbahay naman daw....

sana maganda kalabasan... post ko pics bukas..

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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2006, 11:05:25 AM »
bro kaw pala ung swerteng naka-kuha ng AA ni kurt, oo nga wala na daw yan print, as far as i know, yung LOGO lang ng sabian ang meron sila na pang-stencil.

nice cymbal pare!
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2006, 08:47:38 PM »
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bro kaw pala ung swerteng naka-kuha ng AA ni kurt, oo nga wala na daw yan print, as far as i know, yung LOGO lang ng sabian ang meron sila na pang-stencil.

nice cymbal pare!
godbless!

yes bro ako nakakuha.... kaya nga sabian logo lang ang available eh.. kaya gumawa na lang ako ng stencil ng AA logo
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2006, 08:52:16 PM »
YES! sawakas natapos na din!!!
eto na ang finish product ng AA logo..


BEFORE


AFTER




mukha din bang original logo or halatang niremedyuhan lang??
di ko pa magawa yun "medium thin crash" sa ilalim... kasi masyado maliit mukang maduduling ako sa pag cut out! hehehe
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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2006, 03:56:16 AM »
nice!!  :D
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