RESONANT SIDE Drumheads thread

[uno]

Ano po ang epekto nito sa over-all sound ng drums. Kailangan din po ba nakatono ito?
Kung sakali magpalit ng high-end drumhead sa batter side, dapat din po ba palitan ang resonant side para mas maganda ang tunog?
Salamat na lang po sa magre-reply. PEACE.

[pmack]

Ano po ang epekto nito sa over-all sound ng drums. Kailangan din po ba nakatono ito?

oo. like the batter head, malaki ang nagagawa ng resonant head sa overall sound ng drum.

Kung sakali magpalit ng high-end drumhead sa batter side, dapat din po ba palitan ang resonant side para mas maganda ang tunog?

hindi naman kailangan.
maraming drummers ang nagpapalit lang ng bater head and stock heads pa rin ang gamit sa resonant ng toms ng kit nila. more commonly kasi dahil sa quality ng stock heads, madali lang mabutas or magdent yung stock batter head. eh since di mo naman pinapalo yung resonant, ok lang na wag palitan.

[uno]

Thank you sir. Me natutuhan na naman ako.
How about yung mga ibang toms at bass drum, kung minsan walang resonant head, for music style or genre kaya yon?
Pasensya na, di po ako drummer, may ambition lang.

[pmack]

Thank you sir. Me natutuhan na naman ako.
How about yung mga ibang toms at bass drum, kung minsan walang resonant head, for music style or genre kaya yon?
Pasensya na, di po ako drummer, may ambition lang.

hindi genre-specific yung drums na walang resonant heads.
rather, choice yun ng drummer na iyon.
toms na walang resonant head tends to be more wet-sounding and walang resonance or hindi "nagbobounce" yung tunog sa loob ng drum.
bass drums without resonant naman, ganun din. wala masyadong boom puro tag or tug lang.

sorry medyo di ko madescribe mabuti yung sound qualities pero i think more or less you get the sound naman.

[uno]

Galing talaga dito sa philmusic. More power sir pmack.

[drumster]

From the Drum Tuning Bible website (http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/), under Tuning and Seating.


Resonant Head:

Often underestimated for its contribution to the tone, it is mostly responsible for the pitch, lingering tone and pitch of that created as a result of striking the batter head and resonance of the shell. The resonant head produces “resonance” and aids in sustain, it has a major effect in the overtones and enhances the timbre of the drum. Generally you do not use anything other than single ply on the bottom, but there are exceptions.

[Gep]

Yung nabasa ko sa pearldrummersforum, yung resonant ang bahala sa pitch at sustain, tapos yung batter head yung sa body at projection.

[uno]

Salamat mga bro. Time to work something out of my drums. Ganon pala yon huh..

[bolshoi]

hi there mga sir.

ano ba ang tamang reso head for toms?
is like the reso head ng snare na manipis?

or pwede na ba yun lazer single ply batter head na gawin
reso head?

salamat po.

[jeva]

ako, try ko ung G2 top G1 bottom.

It seems ok.. kaya lng hindi ko kinabit lahat.... syang.. baka kasi benta ko set ko, para may pamalit na bago ung bibili... hehehe

[donald]

thanks.

[rz3znik]

try mo ung clear na remo pinstripe(2 ply to ha) or ung mga remo ambassadors

[donald]

try mo ung clear na remo pinstripe(2 ply to ha) or ung mga remo ambassadors

kelangan ba talaga makapal sa reso head?

thanks sir

[jeva]

try mo ung clear na remo pinstripe(2 ply to ha) or ung mga remo ambassadors

sir Reso head yata kailangan nya. just curious, pero di ba mas maganda sound pag ang reso e mas manipis compare sa batter side? Tanong lng po

[amber_rsm]

try mo ung clear na remo pinstripe(2 ply to ha) or ung mga remo ambassadors

sir Reso head yata kailangan nya. just curious, pero di ba mas maganda sound pag ang reso e mas manipis compare sa batter side? Tanong lng po

sir ang reso head ba ung pangilalim?(hehe sori inosente)
kung pangilalim, para sakin dapat siguro mas manipis.. ganun din kasi sa snare db.. 'peace

[jeva]

sir ang reso head ba ung pangilalim?(hehe sori inosente)
kung pangilalim, para sakin dapat siguro mas manipis.. ganun din kasi sa snare db.. 'peace

oo, ung bottom head. We have the same understanding and you were outright corect with your exmple. Snare nga ang best example dun.

Any way, alam ko resonant head sya kasi its function is to resonate the sound vibrations brought about by the batter head. therefore mas mag reresonate sya kung mas manipis sya, since, ung force nung strike ng stick ay nasa batter. Nevertheless, please correct me if im wrong.

Also, may nkatry n ba na equal ang heads top and bottom? How bout thicker bottom?

[donald]

sir ang reso head ba ung pangilalim?(hehe sori inosente)
kung pangilalim, para sakin dapat siguro mas manipis.. ganun din kasi sa snare db.. 'peace

oo, ung bottom head. We have the same understanding and you were outright corect with your exmple. Snare nga ang best example dun.

Any way, alam ko resonant head sya kasi its function is to resonate the sound vibrations brought about by the batter head. therefore mas mag reresonate sya kung mas manipis sya, since, ung force nung strike ng stick ay nasa batter. Nevertheless, please correct me if im wrong.

Also, may nkatry n ba na equal ang heads top and bottom? How bout thicker bottom?

yup sir jeva, same question here.
may nkatry n ba na equal ang heads top and bottom? How bout thicker bottom?

[bangbus]

sir ang reso head ba ung pangilalim?(hehe sori inosente)
kung pangilalim, para sakin dapat siguro mas manipis.. ganun din kasi sa snare db.. 'peace

oo, ung bottom head. We have the same understanding and you were outright corect with your exmple. Snare nga ang best example dun.

Any way, alam ko resonant head sya kasi its function is to resonate the sound vibrations brought about by the batter head. therefore mas mag reresonate sya kung mas manipis sya, since, ung force nung strike ng stick ay nasa batter. Nevertheless, please correct me if im wrong.

Also, may nkatry n ba na equal ang heads top and bottom? How bout thicker bottom?

yup sir jeva, same question here.
may nkatry n ba na equal ang heads top and bottom? How bout thicker bottom?

i have and still do.

i use remo clear pinstripes for batter and remo clear emperor batter for the bottom. although unconventional, i learned this combo from session drummers here in uk, its to equalise the tone, eliminates unwanted overtones or rings straightaway, and junk the need for any sort of muffling aid (moongel, masking tapes, and the like). basically for studio recording applications (my drums are miced so this works for me coz with it i can achieve cleaner amplified tom sounds--good for me but not for my neighbours). but finding the perfect sound ballance is tricky and tedious so to speak. so it is advisable to be patient and spend a considerable amount of time to tune the toms right coz if the resonants are too loose (even slightly loose), one will notice a huge difference in sound, a dull boxy or even dead sound that is.

 

[jeva]

so it is advisable to be patient and spend a considerable amount of time to tune the toms right coz if the resonants are too loose (even slightly loose), one will notice a huge difference in sound, a dull boxy or even dead sound that is.

Um, that is a good Idea. Only that it will cost me more money, which I dont have enough.

Now, for the next problem is to sort out the sound difference, as mentioned before, Im a bit or totally tone deaf. Which leads me to think of a new thread to post....

[drumfreak]

mga sir, magkakaroon ba ng drastic effect sa quality ng sound ng toms pag low-end ung nilagay ko na reso?
(i.e. remo pinstripe sa batter, lazer sa reso)

ps. (bonus question: ano pala magiging effect ng mas malapad na snare wire?)

thanks guys!