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Title: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime *merged*
Post by: jmreyes on November 29, 2006, 02:33:17 PM
I dunno if its just me but why is philmusic frequently inaccessible?  :?
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: bangbus on November 29, 2006, 09:18:21 PM
i have 3 separate 8mbps connections in 3 different computers in 3 different houses and i get the same issue only with talk.philmusic.com (all other websites loads up in a jiff) so this means the problem is not on my side and is most certainly with the website.

i've chatted with other members as well and we are all experiencing the same thing every now and then. probably due to high traffic of peeps logged in. the server is probably over its limit. is this site signed up for a business account or just a home account? coz chances are if the website owner(s)' internet account is not of business account type, their internet provider could be limiting connections.

I really dunno coz I'm not really tech savvy so it sure would be great if some of the site's authority would be able to shed some light.

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: fred on November 30, 2006, 08:04:43 AM
Same case here.
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Agent_So on November 30, 2006, 05:54:31 PM
admins, i think we deserve an explanation......
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on November 30, 2006, 06:08:06 PM
WTF? Getting a little demanding aren't we agent so? Next thing we know you'll be demanding a refund.

I have a bone to pick with demanding, whining users and I'll be releasing an editorial soon. Its not like you pay anything to access my service which I pay the bills for and provide for free. If the system goes down and I'm not online to restart the server because I'm off living an offline life (heaven forbid) or working (gasp), then tough, please bother some other board. When its down and I see its down , I restart the system. If I don't see it down, then obviously it stays down. Running this board is an enjoyable (most of the time) hobby, not a job.

I don't deserve to be demanded an explanation. If you have a problem with that, then tough.

The forum gets down when traffic goes way up (over 300 online) and system resources utilized exceeds 90%. I've seen this happen on some other high traffic sites, in which case I restart the web service and everything is fine. This is a lot easier to do on this new system. On the old system, you'd just see that "Forbidden" message haunting you.

Obviously I don't like that it goes down, and chette and I would like to spend a few hours investigating and tweaking the server but until this board becomes a mission critical application instead of our personal playground that we allow you to visit and play in, then we'd rather give priority to other things.

rant off.
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on November 30, 2006, 06:19:13 PM
i have 3 separate 8mbps connections in 3 different computers in 3 different houses and i get the same issue only with talk.philmusic.com (all other websites loads up in a jiff) so this means the problem is not on my side and is most certainly with the website.

i've chatted with other members as well and we are all experiencing the same thing every now and then. probably due to high traffic of peeps logged in. the server is probably over its limit. is this site signed up for a business account or just a home account? coz chances are if the website owner(s)' internet account is not of business account type, their internet provider could be limiting connections.

I really dunno coz I'm not really tech savvy so it sure would be great if some of the site's authority would be able to shed some light.


Well for the record, its a virtual server account. It runs off a commercial web hosting company.

The site's success brings its own bag of problems.

Its not just the number of simultaneous visitors that contributes to the resource utilization, its also the number of threads being opened and written to and viewed. Unfortunately there are some threads that are just a complete resource hog and don't really add to spreading information about musicians and by musicians.

Take a look at the Anything Goes section. Lots of resource-chewing threads there of the utterly useless variety. "I'm Going to be last"  most especially. If you want to help this board lets avoid starting those type of threads - if not at one point I may have no choice but to shut down certain areas to keep the board going.

Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: drumster on November 30, 2006, 06:38:43 PM
Its not just the number of simultaneous visitors that contributes to the resource utilization, its also the number of threads being opened and written to and viewed. Unfortunately there are some threads that are just a complete resource hog and don't really add to spreading information about musicians and by musicians.

Take a look at the Anything Goes section. Lots of resource-chewing threads there of the utterly useless variety. "I'm Going to be last"  most especially. If you want to help this board lets avoid starting those type of threads - if not at one point I may have no choice but to shut down certain areas to keep the board going.



I agree with you, Jim!  Great response!   I always thought that Philmusic.com is a useful, credible and intelligent Forum for us musicians.  How I wish that there wouldn't be any more irrelevant topics.  And I hope some members can limit their posting of pointless topics and one-liners just for the sake of quickly becoming a Philmusicus Addictus.  Quality, guys!!  Not quantity!  Sorry sa mga matatamaan.

Regarding the website going down frequently...  I just try to understand that the site has been recently upgraded, so problems like this could happen.  I'm not computer tech-savvy either, but I understand that you Admins are doing whatever's necessary to keep this site up and running.  We are in no position to demand or complain.  In fact, we owe you a lot Jim.  Philmusic.com wouldn't be around without you.  Thanks Admin, and keep up the great work.    8-)
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: KitC on November 30, 2006, 06:51:06 PM
Agent_So,

That post was uncalled for and Jim is right. If any, you should be thankful that the site serves your needs. I'm reminded of when I used to work with a telephone company. Our lament was always that we would only be remembered when the lines are down or service is interrupted for unforeseen reasons. But when service goes on unabated regardless of whether there was a major natural calamity, no one even bothers to give us the time of day.


Think about that...
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on November 30, 2006, 06:57:24 PM
And how weird is it that I now work for a phone company? Thank God I have nothing to do with customer support hehehe

Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Direk on November 30, 2006, 07:03:16 PM
guy's, let share the bulk of heftyness from the admins who keeps the site running (THANK YOU, guys). do our share by keeping our post short (ouch!...unless it really need the beef to explain it), sensible and highly beneficial to the advancement of PhilMusic. were family of this site now, lets HELP OUR SITE then!       
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Direk on November 30, 2006, 07:09:54 PM
And how weird is it that I now work for a phone company? Thank God I have nothing to do with customer support hehehe



i agree, but safe no more from pesky user like (us) in this site... hehehe too!
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: xjepoyx on November 30, 2006, 08:18:59 PM
is it the server or the backend program that is causing the downtime of the site? theres alot of other backend application that is more suitable for the growing population of Philmusic.

To Admins... im suggesting innovision its also php based application for boards/forums its been used by other forum sites and they had no problems with it...


PEACE!!!
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 01, 2006, 01:22:06 PM
is it the server or the backend program that is causing the downtime of the site? theres alot of other backend application that is more suitable for the growing population of Philmusic.

To Admins... im suggesting innovision its also php based application for boards/forums its been used by other forum sites and they had no problems with it...

"the server or the background program"... hmmm well the server platform looks pretty robust based on the specs (it's Linux, yay!) , and the "backend program" I am assuming you are referring to the application, rather than the pretty standard database platform (php scripts, MySQL) that powers up most Internet sites.

I don't think Innovision will solve anything - or  Vbulletin. Nor do chette and I have time to for another backbreaking migration again as we do both have pretty hectic jobs. PhilMusic I like to remind people - is not "a job", though sometimes our users make us think it is.  So if we want continuous operation, we'll use the current setup, and maybe ask a sysad friend of ours to analyze how we've set up the server.

If we were to do this seriously, I'd shut down the site, go on Christmas holiday for a month, and take the downtime to leisurely decide what platform/server setup and new features to implement.

But I know this would cause everyone to experience massive withdrawal symptoms, so life goes on.

:)


Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 01, 2006, 01:25:12 PM
guy's, let share the bulk of heftyness from the admins who keeps the site running (THANK YOU, guys). do our share by keeping our post short (ouch!...unless it really need the beef to explain it), sensible and highly beneficial to the advancement of PhilMusic. were family of this site now, lets HELP OUR SITE then!       

Long posts have nothing to do with it.. in fact the long posts in our musician oriented forums on gear, techniques, music theory are very valuable in terms of spreading knowledge.

It's the useless one-liner posts that are posted for the sake of posting or increasing post counts that I have a problem with. They may be short but each of those is counted as an individual system transaction and database record and carries it own impact on server resources. "Anything Goes" is running out of control with these type of useless threads.



Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: KitC on December 01, 2006, 01:26:14 PM
And how weird is it that I now work for a phone company? Thank God I have nothing to do with customer support hehehe

You should be so lucky... I was with Metro Manila Operations.  :|
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Direk on December 01, 2006, 01:58:38 PM
If we were to do this seriously, I'd shut down the site, go on Christmas holiday for a month
:)

you and chette, share your blessing on this Christmas...PLEASE keep the site running.   
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: KitC on December 01, 2006, 02:06:52 PM
If we were to do this seriously, I'd shut down the site, go on Christmas holiday for a month
:)

you and chette, share your blessing on this Christmas...PLEASE keep the site running.   

Di pa nagshu-shutdown, nagumpisa na withdrawal symptoms in Direk!  :-D
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: MikEh on December 01, 2006, 02:15:25 PM
i have to admit, nakaka-inis yung frequent downtimes ng board.

but i am really superdupermegavery thankful to all the mods and admins running the show and keeping things alive.

i hope this problem gets solved sooner, para masaya lahat ng tao. :-D
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: TheEdge on December 01, 2006, 02:36:39 PM
i have 3 separate 8mbps connections in 3 different computers in 3 different houses and i get the same issue only with talk.philmusic.com (all other websites loads up in a jiff) so this means the problem is not on my side and is most certainly with the website.

i've chatted with other members as well and we are all experiencing the same thing every now and then. probably due to high traffic of peeps logged in. the server is probably over its limit. is this site signed up for a business account or just a home account? coz chances are if the website owner(s)' internet account is not of business account type, their internet provider could be limiting connections.

I really dunno coz I'm not really tech savvy so it sure would be great if some of the site's authority would be able to shed some light.

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

para malaman mo kung sa server side ng philmusic or your side visit mo tung website na ito http://www.alertra.com/ then type mo philmusic.com pag mga errors ang nakalagay then server side ng philmusic.com pero kung wala error means nasayo ang problem.
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Direk on December 01, 2006, 02:41:59 PM
Di pa nagshu-shutdown, nagumpisa na withdrawal symptoms in Direk!  :-D

hahahaha..obvious yata talaga, napansin ng pulis! men, tinitiis ko na nga yung long waiting time na me lumabas sa site at para ako naman makapasok, then shutdown? mabigat!   :lol:
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: BAMF on December 01, 2006, 02:52:01 PM
WTF? Getting a little demanding aren't we agent so? Next thing we know you'll be demanding a refund.

I have a bone to pick with demanding, whining users and I'll be releasing an editorial soon. Its not like you pay anything to access my service which I pay the bills for and provide for free.

Hehehe. The bible said "ask and you shall receive". I think it actually meant "Ask nicely and you shall receive" :D :D :D
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: cosine on December 01, 2006, 03:27:34 PM
i dont know if its just me pero di ako maka log in sa philmusic, parating page cannot be displayed. .. is there sumthin wrong or are  you guys doin an upgrade ?

please text me kasi mamaya di nanaman ako makapasok e. ..
09153191221

thank you
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: cosine on December 01, 2006, 03:32:58 PM
admins, i think we deserve an explanation......

ywah whats up ?
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: KitC on December 01, 2006, 03:48:14 PM
admins, i think we deserve an explanation......

ywah whats up ?

You got that far, at least it would have served you well to read the posts in between this one and that.
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: bangbus on December 01, 2006, 05:01:08 PM
i have 3 separate 8mbps connections in 3 different computers in 3 different houses and i get the same issue only with talk.philmusic.com (all other websites loads up in a jiff) so this means the problem is not on my side and is most certainly with the website.

i've chatted with other members as well and we are all experiencing the same thing every now and then. probably due to high traffic of peeps logged in. the server is probably over its limit. is this site signed up for a business account or just a home account? coz chances are if the website owner(s)' internet account is not of business account type, their internet provider could be limiting connections.

I really dunno coz I'm not really tech savvy so it sure would be great if some of the site's authority would be able to shed some light.


Well for the record, its a virtual server account. It runs off a commercial web hosting company.

The site's success brings its own bag of problems.

Its not just the number of simultaneous visitors that contributes to the resource utilization, its also the number of threads being opened and written to and viewed. Unfortunately there are some threads that are just a complete resource hog and don't really add to spreading information about musicians and by musicians.

Take a look at the Anything Goes section. Lots of resource-chewing threads there of the utterly useless variety. "I'm Going to be last"  most especially. If you want to help this board lets avoid starting those type of threads - if not at one point I may have no choice but to shut down certain areas to keep the board going.




gotcha, thanks for the reply Jim, i appreciate it. and i too am absolutely grateful that you and the mods are doing your best to keep the site organised and runnin. kind regards.


para malaman mo kung sa server side ng philmusic or your side visit mo tung website na ito http://www.alertra.com/ then type mo philmusic.com pag mga errors ang nakalagay then server side ng philmusic.com pero kung wala error means nasayo ang problem.


thanks for the info, will check that site out. regards

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 01, 2006, 06:40:18 PM
Thanks for that info on Alerta.com ...  must be Alexa's long lost sister... :)
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 01, 2006, 06:54:55 PM
There were similar questions on the Pinoydrums list - one guy just posted "why? why?Why?" and you gotta admit that was a tad too demanding.

My reply was as follows below.

I guess one thing we can implement is some sort of "early warning system" like they do for tsunamis to alert us when the site goes down. I'll ask the mods to text me (or chette) when the site goes down so we know what that happens.

Then maybe I can learn how to restart the server using my 3G phone or something - hehe

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On 12/1/06, fullfarmhousebreakfast <fullfarmhousebreakfast@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (Note: tone used: Calm and collected not agressive and provocative)
>
> Hi Jim, fyi and my fault for not knowing that you run, much more, own
> the site. I thought moderators coordinated and shared responsibilities
> in keepin it up and runnin. My apologies, I have no experience in
> runnin forums so I really do not have a clue as to how operations go
> in this field.

Thanks dude -  that's a helluva lot clearer than "Why? Why? Why? " :-)

There is a thread on this topic, posted at
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,31834.0.html

I'm attributing the server glitches to increased traffic (and thus
increased transactions) at the forum. I've never seen traffic logs so
high before. So apparently the site's popularity has a downside. When
that happens, the webserver hangs, but a simple restart does the
trick.

Obviously If the site goes down and I'm at work, or at a meeting or
driving somewhere - I guess I can't be around to restart it eh? I
really should consider training my dog to monitor the site and text me
when that happens - but of course I may also have to buy a dog first!
:-)

As for the community aspect - yes it remains "the online home of the
pinoy musician" and everyone who plays an instrument is welcome. Just
hope everyone understands that the mods and admins all have other
things to do (day jobs and night jobs make the world go round and pay
the bills beside) apart from being online 24/7 to babysit the site.

jim

Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 01, 2006, 06:56:51 PM
admins, i think we deserve an explanation......

ywah whats up ?

As the bible says, read this thread and ye shall receive

Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 01, 2006, 07:03:31 PM
Thanks for that info on Alerta.com ...  must be Alexa's long lost sister... :)


Ok I now see there is "Alerta Mobile":
http://www.alertra.com/statushelp.php

I'll check it out. So I  can be alerted by an SMS even when I'm taking a crap. (And that's progress??)
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: bangbus on December 01, 2006, 07:16:13 PM
There were similar questions on the Pinoydrums list - one guy just posted "why? why?Why?" and you gotta admit that was a tad too demanding.

My reply was as follows below.

I guess one thing we can implement is some sort of "early warning system" like they do for tsunamis to alert us when the site goes down. I'll ask the mods to text me (or chette) when the site goes down so we know what that happens.

Then maybe I can learn how to restart the server using my 3G phone or something - hehe

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    6:49 pm (0 minutes ago)
On 12/1/06, fullfarmhousebreakfast <fullfarmhousebreakfast@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (Note: tone used: Calm and collected not agressive and provocative)
>
> Hi Jim, fyi and my fault for not knowing that you run, much more, own
> the site. I thought moderators coordinated and shared responsibilities
> in keepin it up and runnin. My apologies, I have no experience in
> runnin forums so I really do not have a clue as to how operations go
> in this field.

Thanks dude -  that's a helluva lot clearer than "Why? Why? Why? " :-)

There is a thread on this topic, posted at
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,31834.0.html

I'm attributing the server glitches to increased traffic (and thus
increased transactions) at the forum. I've never seen traffic logs so
high before. So apparently the site's popularity has a downside. When
that happens, the webserver hangs, but a simple restart does the
trick.

Obviously If the site goes down and I'm at work, or at a meeting or
driving somewhere - I guess I can't be around to restart it eh? I
really should consider training my dog to monitor the site and text me
when that happens - but of course I may also have to buy a dog first!
:-)

As for the community aspect - yes it remains "the online home of the
pinoy musician" and everyone who plays an instrument is welcome. Just
hope everyone understands that the mods and admins all have other
things to do (day jobs and night jobs make the world go round and pay
the bills beside) apart from being online 24/7 to babysit the site.

jim




That 'one guy' was me with my initial why why why.

once again, kindly accept my sincere apology for sounding like a demanding prick.

I did not intend that to be demanding though. More of a why why why with a sigh and sad face like--->  :|

here was my reply to your latest yahoogroup response:

Well-said, thanks for the reply Jim. Apologies for my initial why why why. yes a computer literate dog would indeed come in handy. Keep up the good work.


PS: If my apology isn't enough and the need to deal with me face-to-face is necessary so that internet-messaging-misunderstanding could be avoided, I would be glad to meet up since I will be returning to Manila in a weeks' time for the holidays. Let me know if this is necessary.

 :-)
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 01, 2006, 07:21:56 PM
PS: If my apology isn't enough and the need to deal with me face-to-face is necessary so that internet-messaging-misunderstanding could be avoided, I would be glad to meet up since I will be returning to Manila in a weeks' time for the holidays. Let me know if this is necessary.

 :-)

No harm done and no apologies needed - as for jams and EBs I usually leave that up to BAMF  :)

Looks like Alerta may be that bi -- er I mean dog - will have to check her out first.
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: bangbus on December 01, 2006, 07:27:01 PM
PS: If my apology isn't enough and the need to deal with me face-to-face is necessary so that internet-messaging-misunderstanding could be avoided, I would be glad to meet up since I will be returning to Manila in a weeks' time for the holidays. Let me know if this is necessary.

 :-)

No harm done and no apologies needed - as for jams and EBs I usually leave that up to BAMF  :)

Looks like Alerta may be that bi -- er I mean dog - will have to check her out first.


Thanks Jim and 3 cheers for Alerta if it is the dog. Once again keep up the good work!

 :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: pmack on December 01, 2006, 07:48:03 PM
pardon me sir Jim. i do not know anything about internet/server/hosting or whatever, but i would just like to ask, is there something that us users can do in order to help you make this very useful and very important forum not crash down? it has become an integral part of the music scene (heaven knows i was able to form a band because of this forum).

perhaps donate a little for server stuff (again, i don't know anything about this, that's why i'm asking) and what-not?

thank you Sir Jim for sharing this "playground" with all of us. this is truly a gem...

peace..

- - paolo
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: xjepoyx on December 01, 2006, 10:32:47 PM
pardon me sir Jim. i do not know anything about internet/server/hosting or whatever, but i would just like to ask, is there something that us users can do in order to help you make this very useful and very important forum not crash down? it has become an integral part of the music scene (heaven knows i was able to form a band because of this forum).

perhaps donate a little for server stuff (again, i don't know anything about this, that's why i'm asking) and what-not?

thank you Sir Jim for sharing this "playground" with all of us. this is truly a gem...

peace..

- - paolo

i agree... what i can do is i can recommend philmusic to my boss who owns a hosting company velcom.com and give a big discount.
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: intake on December 02, 2006, 09:31:34 AM
hindi nako magppost sa mga senseless threads  :-D
huwag na lang tayo maging postwhore  :-D
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 02, 2006, 11:16:53 AM
Paolo and Jepoy - thanks for the offers to help, na-touch kami ni Chette diyan, hehehe

About our new server account, I think we're pretty much fine with it based on the specs, and besides I already prepaid for three months. It's just that we've been too busy since the migration from phpBB (doing our real work that is) that we haven't really gone into looking fully into server optimization and all that, but I'm going to plan that out now, especially since we're getting unprecedentedly high site traffic. In the past we had used shared hosting accounts where the site's sysops do all that stuff for us.

Paolo - one thing you can do to help is click on the Google ads :)

The other thing is Chette just reminded me we need 5 more mods to help police the forum, so I'm going to review your application again.... :)

Regarding the system downtime for the time being, one thing we've done is establish an "early warning system" - if the system goes down, the mods send me an SMS the minute they encounter it so we get to restart the server remotely. So far so good.
               
The last thing, which is addressed to all - I'm really glad you enjoy the forum interaction. I think local musicians were looking for something like this for sometime and it's good that on the whole people are cool with each other and generally friendly - there's very little competition and cutting people down (well, except for a few cases).  Definitely I see that everytime I attend an EB and see that people are making new friends, and talking shop, and forming bands with people they meet online.  Seeing that makes all these technical glitches worthwhile.

The rest of the world doesn't understand us musicians - so we might as well stick together :)

 :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: TheEdge on December 02, 2006, 11:31:50 AM
I was just wondering how much you guys make sa google adsense? :D

tsaka mag-kano binabayad nyo monthly sa web hosting?
Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: Jim Ayson on December 02, 2006, 12:02:51 PM
Wonder all you want, but it's not enough for me to consider quitting my job and doing this full time, most definitely  :mrgreen:

PhilMusic.com has been running in one form or the other for almost ten years now (I think the 10th anniversary is coming up sometime Feb 2007). When I think back on all the cash shoveled into this baby, I've wondered about all the nice material possessions I might have purchased - but maybe some ideas or ideals are worth more than shiny toys, G.A.S. notwithstanding. :-)


Title: Re: Forum frequently down
Post by: xjepoyx on December 02, 2006, 03:16:48 PM
sir Jim have you checked out velcom.com already? my contact there can give me unlimited bandwidth and 20% discount if we sign up for a year
Title: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime *merged*
Post by: DarkHorse on July 14, 2007, 12:20:54 PM
tanung lng...bkit nga ba?..yng server ba o ano..kakainis kc minsan e...i mean lagi pala...bka me nkakaalam jn...
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: sjon014 on July 14, 2007, 01:05:18 PM
Well, it's got a pretty big population. And I think the server needs to be restarted when it's down. Sir Jim can't really always attend to it diba? :-) But oh well, it's the best music site in the country with the best community, and it's FREE, so I ain't complaining. :-D
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: m1k3 on July 14, 2007, 01:12:33 PM
kaya sana iwasan na yung mga walang kwentang post para hindi madalas mag down ang philmusic.
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: chette on July 14, 2007, 07:37:41 PM
tanung lng...bkit nga ba?..yng server ba o ano..kakainis kc minsan e...i mean lagi pala...bka me nkakaalam jn...

Naghahang pag mabigat na. Kaya ang ginagawa namin, we restart the server every hour. Ngayon ata, di na sapat yun. Feeling ko kailangan every 30 minutes na. Check mo nga kung may improvement kung yun ang ginawa ko. Not online all the time eh.
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: Jim Ayson on July 15, 2007, 04:05:34 AM
Actually, you got it wrong - the server is programmed to reset 24 times a day, not 10 :)
That's once every hour.
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: Jim Ayson on July 15, 2007, 04:08:40 AM
Naghahang pag mabigat na. Kaya ang ginagawa namin, we restart the server every hour. Ngayon ata, di na sapat yun. Feeling ko kailangan every 30 minutes na. Check mo nga kung may improvement kung yun ang ginawa ko. Not online all the time eh.

For those who wonder what "mabigat" means - chette refers to the processing load on the server when a large number of concurrent users are engaged in processing-heavy activites - like posting, loading pages, etc.

At over 18,000 members this is no longer a small rinky dink system.

Kung gusto niyo, bigyan mo ako ng P25,000 a month for a dedicated server setup, ha?
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: m1k3 on July 15, 2007, 09:31:40 PM
Actually, you got it wrong - the server is programmed to reset 24 times a day, not 10 :)
That's once every hour.

so meaning natural lang na mag offline ang philmusic ng madalas
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: DarkHorse on July 16, 2007, 12:13:28 PM
sana walang maoffend..nagtatanung lng nmn po..hindi po nagrereclamo...salamat po..
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: chette on July 17, 2007, 12:02:28 AM
Di naman ako na-offend. Okay lang talaga yun. Thanks for your concern, actually.
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: caster_tROY on July 17, 2007, 10:06:52 PM
bagay mag downtime ang philmusic dun sa mga nagpaparami ng post dyan' hahaha la lang.... sakin ok na rin magdown time...grabe kaadik pumunta dito sa site na to... to read some music stuff's and mostly hanging here with the Filipino musician's..
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: zxildjian on August 10, 2007, 12:25:21 AM
ok lng po kc alam nmn nmin na ginagawa nya ang best nyo pra nrin sa amin ...godbless!
Title: Re: BAKIT NAGO-OFFLINE PHILMUSIC 10 TIMES A DAY?(OR IS IT JUST ME.?) ...
Post by: the_jj on August 25, 2007, 02:54:22 PM
actually it doesn't go offline now as much as it did before..  :-D
Title: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime *merged*
Post by: wiccan8888 on September 18, 2007, 11:11:39 AM
Batet po nagdodown ang philmusic between 5pm to 6.30pm? madalas po.
Title: Re: Batet po nagdodown ang philmusic between 5pm to 6.30pm? madalas po.
Post by: chette on September 18, 2007, 04:26:01 PM
Batet po nagdodown ang philmusic between 5pm to 6.30pm? madalas po.

We do a server reboot every hour (on the dot, atomic time), so it should be done for about 60 seconds.
Title: Re: Batet po nagdodown ang philmusic between 5pm to 6.30pm? madalas po.
Post by: wiccan8888 on September 18, 2007, 05:21:02 PM
wow, galeng ko, tama pala ako sa hinala ko. napaghahalataang adik ako.
Title: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime *merged*
Post by: Ground Zero on November 28, 2007, 01:13:56 PM
I'm just wondering kung bakit laging down or napapadalas ang downtime ng PhilMusic... I'm online daily from 6am-9pm and madalas not accessible ang site from time to time...

Is it on the high traffic load, bandwidth limit, maintenance tasks or what?

I hope the admins and mods could enlighten us...

 :wink:
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: Jim Ayson on November 29, 2007, 03:02:46 AM
And the answer is - all of the above m'boy, all of the above.

The solution is to throw money at it - more memory, bandwidth, etc.
Title: Bakit every 5 minutes nagda down tong site?
Post by: phektus on November 29, 2007, 01:36:02 PM
Pansin ko every 5 minutes or so hindi nagiging responsive tong site. Mataas na traffic sana naman ma improve yung bandwidth kung yun ang problem! BTW very good site! Keep up the good work  :-D
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: Ground Zero on November 29, 2007, 04:53:03 PM
Thanks boss... :wink:
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: soundslikebryan on November 30, 2007, 12:47:59 AM
Quote
And the answer is - all of the above m'boy, all of the above.

The solution is to throw money at it - more memory, bandwidth, etc

Can we help?
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: marzi on November 30, 2007, 02:00:41 PM
Can we help?

how about a fund raiser?
Title: Re: Bakit every 5 minutes nagda down tong site?
Post by: Jim Ayson on November 30, 2007, 04:28:16 PM
Pansin ko every 5 minutes or so hindi nagiging responsive tong site. Mataas na traffic sana naman ma improve yung bandwidth kung yun ang problem! BTW very good site! Keep up the good work  :-D

Why Phektus, thank you for your upcoming donation to our bandwidth improvement fund :)
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: Jim Ayson on November 30, 2007, 04:29:19 PM
Can we help?

Maybe we should have you guys sell ads :)

Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: m1k3 on November 30, 2007, 04:38:53 PM
masanay na kayo :-)

magdonate kayo ng fund kay sir jim para madagdagan ng memory, bandwidth, etc.. or kung wala kayong monetary donation, stop posting non sense topic :-D
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: soundslikebryan on November 30, 2007, 04:45:44 PM
Maybe we should have you guys sell ads :)



how do we do that?
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: lil.drummerboy on November 30, 2007, 04:51:41 PM
how do we do that?
onga pano :?  gusto ko din maka tulong..
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: michiko.airashii on November 30, 2007, 05:23:16 PM
count me in sir jim!   
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: james_woe on December 24, 2007, 10:01:48 PM
hmmm...gawin nyu po un fund raising gamit ang txt...hehehe....

di ba sa mga commercials sa TV, gaya nun bantay bata ata un,tsaka un kay mel tsangko(wrong spelling ata)...magtetext ka
lang...makakatulong kana daw....funds na daw un para sa kanila....... :lol:
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: Ground Zero on December 27, 2007, 07:12:24 PM
masanay na kayo :-)

magdonate kayo ng fund kay sir jim para madagdagan ng memory, bandwidth, etc.. or kung wala kayong monetary donation, stop posting non sense topic :-D

Since I'm the topic starter, I should reply on this one...

First of all, this is not a nonsense topic... FYI, m1k3, I'm just concerned about the site's frequent downtime and a little info from the admin and mods could help on feeding our ignorant mind (in behalf of all the forumers)... Patronizers kami ng site so therefore kahit naman cguro paano, may karapatan kami malaman ang mga nangyayari dito sa forums ayt?

I am a web developer by profession so I understand the problem very clearly (I'm not really an ignorant when it comes to website bandwidth problems, this is a high traffic site with so many forum members)... Just want to clarify a few things because not all forumers can assess the situation like the way I can as a web developer.. I do have an experience on handling forum database problems dun pa sa dati kong community website na ginawa...

So, I suggest... Instead of stopping people from posting "nonsense topics", why just don't we stop posting "nonsense replies" on "sensible topics"... Eh?


At least, Sir Jim Ayson is man enough to enlighten us all common forumers here...

And the answer is - all of the above m'boy, all of the above.

The solution is to throw money at it - more memory, bandwidth, etc.

Yun lang naman eh... Straight answer... No need for unneccessary "nonsense" comment, dude... Community problem ito... Bakit kaya di ikaw ang maunang magdonate kay Sir Jim? Practice what you preach... Eh?

Yun lang bro... Peace... Just my two cents...
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: ilbianconerri_magajes on December 27, 2007, 08:41:18 PM
Quote
So, I suggest... Instead of stopping people from posting "nonsense topics", why just don't we stop posting "nonsense replies" on "sensible topics"... Eh?

+1 dude....

it's becoming a serious problem.....and as a sign of it classified guitars forum has been down for the entire day
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: ilbianconerri_magajes on December 28, 2007, 10:59:50 AM
Grabe na yung pag ka busy ng server....almost all of the functions i try to do take so long and sometimes they don't work........ :-(
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: pixelwise on December 28, 2007, 12:42:05 PM
Yun lang naman eh... Straight answer... No need for unneccessary "nonsense" comment, dude... Community problem ito... Bakit kaya di ikaw ang maunang magdonate kay Sir Jim? Practice what you preach... Eh?

Hmm i might have read wrong but i don't think m1k3 was referring to this particular thread .. when you go around the board madami naman talagang nonsense topics, but not this one. Tama bro m1k3?  :-D

Anyway, is it just me o talagang dalawang araw nang "Database error" ito http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/board,167.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/board,167.0.html)

I admin a few dozen servers by the way, 14 of which are high bandwidth and not just your typical webapp server. Internal use ng company lahat, i.e we're not a web host, so medyo involved ang pag-aadmin. I'll be following this thread baka may makitang opportunity pano makatulong. I won't mind through funds either. Now if only I had anything to promote hmmm :-D
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: m1k3 on December 29, 2007, 08:15:25 AM
Hmm i might have read wrong but i don't think m1k3 was referring to this particular thread .. when you go around the board madami naman talagang nonsense topics, but not this one. Tama bro m1k3?  :-D

MISMO!
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: Tasty on December 30, 2007, 06:24:46 PM
Will clicking on the ads help even if just a bit?
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: Ground Zero on January 06, 2008, 03:46:02 AM
Hmm i might have read wrong but i don't think m1k3 was referring to this particular thread .. when you go around the board madami naman talagang nonsense topics, but not this one. Tama bro m1k3?  :-D

MISMO!

Ey, brothers.. Kindly bare with me for being overreacting... Yup, you're right... Dami ko nga nakikita na non-sense topics... Peace bro m1k3! Happy New Year guys! :wink:
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: seyer on January 06, 2008, 06:46:45 AM
Will clicking on the ads help even if just a bit?

+1 .. it does?
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: m1k3 on January 06, 2008, 01:41:56 PM
Ey, brothers.. Kindly bare with me for being overreacting... Yup, you're right... Dami ko nga nakikita na non-sense topics... Peace bro m1k3! Happy New Year guys! :wink:

peace be with you GZ :-)
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: blueplata on March 22, 2008, 11:56:22 AM
yeah... anything that we could do?  :?
Title: Re: PhilMusic's Frequent Downtime
Post by: gitarakista27 on April 10, 2008, 10:22:11 PM
What if ituloy natin ung "tshirt" idea. kahet not for guitar central only. pero for philmusic. then magdagdag nalang ng extra charge para sa philmusic mismo. kunwari 200 ung cost ng shirt and labor and priting the logo and stuff, 350 pay natin. proceeds will go to funding the site. i think alot of people will buy naman.  you may say overkill ang patong pero if at least 20 people  buy(ako siguro 3 ang orderin kong shirt, one for me, one for gf and one for my doggie!!), thats about three thousand bucks na for memory and bandwith costs. hey, its not a big help but its a start.

suggest lang yan. so we can help philmusic and we can further symbolyze that we are part of a family with our shirts!
Title: downtime
Post by: haxo55 on June 06, 2008, 03:32:47 AM
mga mods, ate and mga kuya...
bakit madalas na pong nagkakaron ng downtime?
sabi po ng iba dahil daw masyado ng madaming threads...
suggestion ko lang po...
kung pwede po sana ierase na lang yung mga super luma ng threads...
yung mga taon ng nakapost...
wala na po sigurong use yung iba po...
lalo na po pala sa classifieds...
madaming useless threads po dun...
kesa po ilock delete na lang po...
 :-)
Title: Re: downtime
Post by: tejadster on June 07, 2008, 12:54:00 PM
yun nga yung ginagawa nung mga mods..
kaya mapapansin mo minsan na nababawasan yung mga post count :-D
Title: Re: downtime
Post by: Jim Ayson on June 08, 2008, 10:56:09 PM
Well actually, the site will go down once every hour - because we have programmed the server to do a reboot to free up system resources. This actually makes the site more stable. Due to the high traffic, server resources are consumed on this site quite fast.

This is a cron job - completely automated, no human intervention :-)



Title: Re: downtime
Post by: haxo55 on June 09, 2008, 03:18:30 AM
yun nga yung ginagawa nung mga mods..
kaya mapapansin mo minsan na nababawasan yung mga post count :-D

kaya pala yung iba biglang nagiging forum fanatic ulit...  :lol:

Well actually, the site will go down once every hour - because we have programmed the server to do a reboot to free up system resources. This actually makes the site more stable. Due to the high traffic, server resources are consumed on this site quite fast.

This is a cron job - completely automated, no human intervention :-)





sir thanks po sa reply...
medyo kinabahan ako kala ko kasi thread lock po kaya po kayo nagpost...
thanks po ulit...
 :-)