Active 2-way, 3-way Crossovers

[mbenipayo]

For analog crossovers......  If you have an opportunity to buy a RANE AC-22 or AC-23, go for that.  They have the "DELAY" adjustment that is a helpful feature when dealing with multi-way systems.  It helps you adjust the time-alignment relationship between the Low, Mid & High drivers.  Their still made better than the other brands at the same price range.

[stoney73]

I miss those RANE AC crossovers.  Those are the usual "must haves". . .

For my low budget projects, I still install Behringer crossovers.


CX3400 3way Php 9,500.00


CX2310 2way Php 6,600.00

[hayewire]

mga sir ano po ba kaibahan ng branded na crossover vs sa generic or china crossover, sa sound quality ba?durability?features, limitations?

sa mga brand na to ano ang ok na 2-3 way active crossover?
1.konzert
2.crown
3.kevler
4.live
5.behringer

tnx po

[tjlimjoco]

mga sir ano po ba kaibahan ng branded na crossover vs sa generic or china crossover, sa sound quality ba?durability?features, limitations?

sa mga brand na to ano ang ok na 2-3 way active crossover?
1.konzert
2.crown
3.kevler
4.live
5.behringer

tnx po

Sa 5 brands mentioned above, I go for Behringer.  And the other one is  - - - http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,175135.0.html 

But for the pros talaga, DBX pa rin. 

[Jef2]

rane ac23s 28990 




The Rane AC 23S Active Crossover can be configured as a stereo 2- or 3-way, or a mono 4- or 5-way. It employs 4th-order Linkwitz-Riley filter alignments to minimize phase difficulties in the critical crossover region. The AC 23S uses XLR connectors with active balanced Inputs and Outputs.

Simply put, a Linkwitz-Riley alignment is two cascaded 2nd-order Butterworth filters exhibiting identical phase characteristics on their low-pass and high-pass outputs. This characteristic guarantees in-phase outputs at all frequencies. In-phase outputs are mandatory for proper acoustic summing of common signals from adjacent drivers in the crossover region. An added benefit of this topology is steep 24 dB per octave rolloff slopes. A slope of this magnitude guarantees drivers designed to produce a specific range of frequencies, and no more, will not be driven past their limits, thereby minimizing distortion and driver fatigue.

To further guarantee the transparent operation of the AC 23S, adjustable Delay circuits appear on the Low & Mid Outputs of each Channel to compensate for any physical misalignment of the drivers. Time correction ensures the mechanical phase alignment of adjacent drivers will be acoustically correct, thus maintaining the integrity of the electrical phase alignment of the crossover’s filters.

In 2- or 3-way stereo mode, the low outputs may be mono'ed by moving an internal jumper. Constant directivity (CD) horn equalization is possible with an internal modification. See the manual for details.

[jho@yahoo.com]

Good day!!! po mga sir's ask ko lang po kung okey lang po yung set up ng sound system sa church namin. yung mixer po namin is yamaha mg series tapos nakasaksak na po dun lahat ng output ng mic's para sa vocal's,drum mic's,output ng 2 keyboard,2 electric guitar,1 aucostic,and bass guitar. then yung output nung mixer papunta sa crossover na behringer 2,3,4way pero naka set po sya ng 3 way naka saksak po sa high ng crossover yung qsc 2450 na amp papunta sa jbl na eon yung mid naman sa behringer 2500 papunta sa jbl jrx 100 yung low sa bts 2400 papuntang soundtech na sub lahat po sila naka stereo.yung para sa monitor nakasaksak sa aux 1 & 2 ng mixer mismo diretso ng atlantic pro 400 na amp papuntang peavey speakers. yung e.q. at compressor naka saksak din sa mixer. ask ko lang po kung sa ganitong set-up wala po bang magiging problema as time pass by, and ano po bang gamit yung kailangan namin para matangal yung tunog na parang psssssssst. medyo mahina naman po sya kaya lang pangit paring pakinggan eh!!! paki korek narin po kung may set-up po kmi na mali!!! GOD BLESS PO!!! 

[CodeOne]

sir lagyan mo ng limiter compressor with noise gate... pssssssssssst sound is what you call white noise... meaning to say ok ang set up mo, you just need minor adjustments on gain and volume level settings... buti walang humming sound...

[jho@yahoo.com]

To sir code one: maraming salamat po sa comment nyo malaking tulong po yung sinabi nyo para mapaayos pa namin yung tunog ng sound system namin,GOD BLESS PO sa inyo. sir how about feedback destroyer ng behringer,sa tingin nyo po ba kakailanganin pa namin ng ganung gamit? may mga time po ksi na kapag naglalakad palapit yung ptr. namin sa speaker habang nagsasalita sya eh! bigla nlang nakakaroon ng low tone na feedback!!! thanks po ulet!!! GOD BLESS!!! 

[CodeOne]

 first identify mo muna kung low tone tlaga, then check mo kung saan speaker source xa nagmumula kung sa sub mo ba or sa midhi speakers.. kung sa midhi speakers cguro mkapal masyado ang timpla ng eq mo adjustment lng un sa 250hz to 400hz...  kung sa sub naman nagmula ung low tone i think ma recommend ko sau na sa auxillary out ka kmuha ng output para sa subs mo para ma control mo ung tamang level ng sub for each channel ng mixer.. i dont recommend the use of feedback destroyer on audio systems, tamang calibration lng ng eq ang kailangan.

[Peter North]

For analog crossovers......  If you have an opportunity to buy a RANE AC-22 or AC-23, go for that.  They have the "DELAY" adjustment that is a helpful feature when dealing with multi-way systems.  It helps you adjust the time-alignment relationship between the Low, Mid & High drivers.  Their still made better than the other brands at the same price range.

+1000 having a delay adjustment sa xover would definitely help you tune your multi-way system. It is important that the sound from the speaker/drivers to reach the mouth at the same time, otherwise destructive interference may occur. Kadalasan disregarded ito ng mga maraming sound system kaya as you go farther listening, nagiging weird and sound ng system nila.

[jho@yahoo.com]

first identify mo muna kung low tone tlaga, then check mo kung saan speaker source xa nagmumula kung sa sub mo ba or sa midhi speakers.. kung sa midhi speakers cguro mkapal masyado ang timpla ng eq mo adjustment lng un sa 250hz to 400hz...  kung sa sub naman nagmula ung low tone i think ma recommend ko sau na sa auxillary out ka kmuha ng output para sa subs mo para ma control mo ung tamang level ng sub for each channel ng mixer.. i dont recommend the use of feedback destroyer on audio systems, tamang calibration lng ng eq ang kailangan.

Good day po sir, how about this kind of setting ok po ba ang ganito?may nag-suggest po kasi eh!!! ano po sa tingin nyo?Mas maganda nag aux fed sub setup kayo. Better to simplify the mix. Gawin na lang fullrange yun tops mo. lagyan na lang ng equalizer and compressor. Then use the behringer crossover for the subs.

Instruments and vocals go to mixer then connect to equalizer then to compressor/limiter then to the amplifiers of the eon and jrx speakers.

Then connect the crossover to the aux of the mixer then sa amp ng subs.

sa mixer, tweak mo na lang yun aux knob na pinasukan mo ng sub para mapalabas sa subs yun mga lows ng gusto mo.

nasa channel1 yun kickdrum, tweak the aux knob of that channel para lumabas yun kick dun sa subs. Then do the same dun sa mga gusto mo papalabasin sa subs like bass guitar, keyboard lows...

[CodeOne]

Good day po sir, how about this kind of setting ok po ba ang ganito?may nag-suggest po kasi eh!!! ano po sa tingin nyo?Mas maganda nag aux fed sub setup kayo. Better to simplify the mix. Gawin na lang fullrange yun tops mo. lagyan na lang ng equalizer and compressor. Then use the behringer crossover for the subs.

Instruments and vocals go to mixer then connect to equalizer then to compressor/limiter then to the amplifiers of the eon and jrx speakers.

Then connect the crossover to the aux of the mixer then sa amp ng subs.

sa mixer, tweak mo na lang yun aux knob na pinasukan mo ng sub para mapalabas sa subs yun mga lows ng gusto mo.

nasa channel1 yun kickdrum, tweak the aux knob of that channel para lumabas yun kick dun sa subs. Then do the same dun sa mga gusto mo papalabasin sa subs like bass guitar, keyboard lows...

+ 1 ako sa setting na ito... also yung stage monitors mo don mo lagay sa aux na nka PRE para di cya apektado pag control ka ng level ng faders mo..

[jho@yahoo.com]

+ 1 ako sa setting na ito... also yung stage monitors mo don mo lagay sa aux na nka PRE para di cya apektado pag control ka ng level ng faders mo..

Good day!!! maraming salamat po sir sa tulong  and comments mo, malaking bagay po ito para mapa-ayos yung output ng soundsystem namin. GOD BLESS PO AND MORE POWER!!!

[Jef2]

the dbx driverack pa plus aside from its common 2x3, 2x4, 2x5, 2x6 crossover configurations,  it still has an output alignment delay feature so you can manually adjust varying driver alignments 

[jho@yahoo.com]

+ 1 ako sa setting na ito... also yung stage monitors mo don mo lagay sa aux na nka PRE para di cya apektado pag control ka ng level ng faders mo..

Good day!!! sir pano po ba mako control ng separate yung volume ng monitor sa volume ng subs? sa crossover po ksi nakasaksak sa low yung output para subs papuntang amp. sa high naman po nakasaksak yung para sa monitor papuntang amp. din, yung crossover naka 2 way mode. sa mixer aux 1 output papuntang input channel 1 ng crossover,aux 2 output naman ng mixer sa channel 2 input ng crossover,kaya lang po napansin namin na isa lang po yung volume control ng sub at monitor kasi kapag nilalakasan namin yung vol. ng sub lumalakas din yung tunog ng monitor. ano po yung magandang gawin para mapaghiwalay sila ng vol.sa mga main speakers po wala na pong problema,except dun sa mahinang psssssst. sound nalang po.tnks po sir. GOD BLESS U PO!!!

[Jef2]

lately,  i find this better than behringer crossovers 

samson s3way 3way active crossover 9290 last updated price

[senti]

BEHRINGER is at the bottom of the barrel kasama lahat nung nandun pa sa Raon na processors.

[mants]

good day mga sir may problema ung behringer crossover koCX3400 ,8months plang nagamit pero humina n ung 1 channel nya ,parehas nman ung pagke set ng Input nya pero tlgang mahina.so s mga naka incounter ng ganito ano po ba ang mga dapat e adjust pra maging parehas ang out ng sounds sa speaker..pede po bang lakasan ko nlang ung volume input ng cross over at ampifier doon sa channel n mahina...thks

[tjlimjoco]

good day mga sir may problema ung behringer crossover koCX3400 ,8months plang nagamit pero humina n ung 1 channel nya ,parehas nman ung pagke set ng Input nya pero tlgang mahina.so s mga naka incounter ng ganito ano po ba ang mga dapat e adjust pra maging parehas ang out ng sounds sa speaker..pede po bang lakasan ko nlang ung volume input ng cross over at ampifier doon sa channel n mahina...thks

Sir Mants, try ny0 muna ilipat ang channel 2 input sa channel 1 para madetermine kung mahina talaga ang channel 1.  Kung mahina talaga,  try m0 muna hinain ang channel 2 para pumantay sa channel 1 level.  Bka kasi kung lalakasan m0 ang channel2,  tataas ang dist0rti0n level m0. 

[mants]

ahh salamat sir sa sugestion malaking tulong din ito para maayos ko ung outcome ng sounds ko..

[N1X]

Thanks for sharing sirs.

How about ang Behringer active crossovers?

ok din ang behringer pero hindi reliable ang mga switches e.. mas ok pa king mag Behringer ka na DCX2492 or Driverack