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Offline Agent_So

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« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2006, 07:15:51 PM »
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about foams pde ka mag pa customize sa uratex alabang.. yung main plant ata nila yun..


Are the foams from Uratex rated for audio? For such foam to be effective, air has to be able to pass through it. Foam also has to be at least 2 inches thick to have an effect with 4 inches recommended. Foam also does not make an effective bass trap. FYI, the foams in the pic above look like Auralex products.

Here's an excellent article by Ethan Winer on how to DIY your own bass trap; the only probem is finding 1" rigid fiberglass - this article was printed in Electronic Musician June 1995 (which I fortunately have).





sir thanks sa reply... btw, dito sa link mo.. yung basstrap ni ethan winer dito is rigid fiber glass.. now i have red na mas maganda raw rockwool kesa sa fiber glass.. my question is.. do you recommend sa design ng basstrap na ito ang rockwool instead of rigid fiber glass. thanks in advance again sir!
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« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2006, 07:50:28 PM »
I think the design lends itself to being able to use rockwool. If you do a google of DIY basstraps, you will get a lot of hits on people using rockwool in both rigid and non-rigid configurations, although rigid is a lot easier to cut.
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« Reply #27 on: September 27, 2006, 09:00:51 PM »
guys, meron ba kayo alam na frame for basstraps, sound absorbers kahit hindi kaparehas ng nasa pic.. kahit similar lang na pwedeng frame.. for 2-4  inches rigid rockwool






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Offline mikep

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« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2006, 04:29:45 PM »
A few things:

1) Foam, unless it is treated with fire retardant, is very dangerous to put up on walls or ceilings.  The old Tasha Records studios in Libis was burnt to the ground in a matter of minutes because the wall and ceiling treatments were all untreated foam.  The case of a bar in the US where a band was playing, lighted up some fireworks, got the acoustic foam treatment into flames, and several died.

2) The one that was shown in the picture is from Sonex, not available locally.  Sonex is fire-rated and at the same time, has a spray type fire retardant that you have to use on installation.

3)  RockWool and Glass Fiber (also known as Glass Wool, Fiberglass, Mineral Wool, etc.) have almost the same absorption coefficients.  The difference is the price.  Rock Wool is a bit more expensive.  Also, their density rating differ.  You can get both in 1 inch and 2 inch thickness.  Normal thickness used in acoustics is 2".  1" and 2" mineral fibers have differing absorption coefficient.  If you want to absorb more LF, go for the thicker one.  I have used 4" thick glass fibers to have a better LF absorption and higher abs. coefficient in the HF.

4)  In a studio, you use absorption, difusion and reflection to control the frequency response of the room.  You compute the RT60 based on the absorption coefficients of different materials.  Typical reverberation of studios are .2 to .35 seconds for control rooms and .2 to .7 sec. for studios, depends on how big your space is (volume) and what you want your studio to be used.  For spoken word, a short RT60 is preferred.  For orchestral, like strings, brasses, and choirs, the higher the RT60, the better.

5)  You use bass traps or LF absorbers to control the LF energy of the room.  You design these traps to make the bass response in the room tight and punchy.  You can either trap the LF energy with big absorptive cavities (these are the real bass traps), or use panel absorbers - combination of wood panels and glass fibers, or Helmholtz resonators, boxes with holes or slats with fibers inside.  You just do not put in LF boxes.  You have to compute for the room response, other wise, it will just be a waste of money.

These matters will be discussed in our projected seminar on the recording process, just to let you know.

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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2006, 02:52:25 PM »
guys up ko lang.. im looking for a frame similar or kahit hindi basta pwedeng pang frame sa 2,3-4 inch rockwool.. thanks
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Re: acoustic foam?
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2009, 12:37:55 AM »
hey guys, basic and most important material in soundproofing is ROCKWOOL and we sell these materials.

this is Fire retardant meaning fire protection for your room.

sir how can i contact you? i think i need rockwool for my soundproofing thanks you can contact me 09175481110 thanks again

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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2009, 03:43:21 AM »
about foams pde ka mag pa customize sa uratex alabang.. yung main plant ata nila yun..
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2009, 04:27:23 AM »
hey guys, basic and most important material in soundproofing is ROCKWOOL and we sell these materials.

this is Fire retardant meaning fire protection for your room.
Me too, i need more... Magkano per pack? Brand? Density? order ako... under renovation ako eh due to pepeng... pepeng basa... este pepeng baha pala.

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Offline chengbang69

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« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2009, 12:05:04 PM »
Mga sir.. may nakita akong supplier ng rockwool... http://www.grandharvest.com.ph/Product.html

tanong ko lang is pano ung tamang setup?

concrete wall -> spacer -> metalframe with rockwool -> gyspum board ?

is that ok?

i'm trying to contain ung tunog ko kasi sa drums... mejo naiba sked ko kasi sa work at 8pm na ko nakakarating.. ndi na ako makapractice hehe.
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Re: acoustic foam?
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2009, 03:26:43 PM »
@agent_so, you can use aluminum c-frame, pwede ka magpagawa sa aluminum and glass supply....