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Title: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: inigo on July 11, 2007, 11:18:38 AM
I know the thing about compression must already be a moot debate, but I just thought this video nicely explains things.
or http://funl.blogspot.com/2007/06/loudness-war.html
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: starfugger on July 11, 2007, 11:35:51 AM
yeah makes perfect sense. i think kitc posted the same video in the mastering shootout thread earlier. but nice to have seen this again.
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: skunkyfunk on July 11, 2007, 02:45:36 PM
If it is too loud, you're too old. (Kind of true for most listeners too. Most of the volume junkies I know tend to be young...)
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: starfugger on July 11, 2007, 04:33:08 PM
that's not a good sign. maybe younger people walk around with their ipod's at full volume too often.
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: KitC on July 12, 2007, 01:15:22 AM
I'm suddenly reminded of those rolling boomboxes they want to call cars. How much I want to tell those kids that their subs are somewhat cheating on frequencies.
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: skunkyfunk on July 12, 2007, 01:35:18 AM
I'm suddenly reminded of those rolling boomboxes they want to call cars. How much I want to tell those kids that their subs are somewhat cheating on frequencies.
For the record, subs with proper signal paths (crossovers, caps and line drivers) can yield nice sounds even with those uber-loud 12" subs. But for the price of those stuff, I'd rather get new instruments for my studio... :-D
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: x_taxi on July 12, 2007, 01:49:16 AM
I'm suddenly reminded of those rolling boomboxes they want to call cars. How much I want to tell those kids that their subs are somewhat cheating on frequencies.
haha! sorry kit, i used to have a 15" sub in my trunk. took up so much space with its 3 cubic feet box so i took it out eventually. my ears loved me for it. plus i suddenly had enough space for the groceries.
good thing i got into film music. learned to listen to dynamics. that it shouldn't be loud all the time. otherwise, the director would just have me redo the whole thing. sometimes, silence is the key to the perfect score.
:-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: starfugger on July 12, 2007, 05:59:08 AM
maybe it's just me, but subs make me sick ...literally. the same things happen when i track guitars at ungodly levels. it feels as though my lungs would colapse any time.
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: starfugger on July 12, 2007, 06:01:18 AM
I'm suddenly reminded of those rolling boomboxes they want to call cars. How much I want to tell those kids that their subs are somewhat cheating on frequencies.
haha! sorry kit, i used to have a 15" sub in my trunk. took up so much space with its 3 cubic feet box so i took it out eventually. my ears loved me for it. plus i suddenly had enough space for the groceries.
good thing i got into film music. learned to listen to dynamics. that it shouldn't be loud all the time. otherwise, the director would just have me redo the whole thing. sometimes, silence is the key to the perfect score.
:-) :-) :-)
yeah. true. silence is as much a musical component as everything else.
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: micr0chimp on July 12, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
That is a beautiful quote. :-)
Title: Re: "When there is no quiet, there can be no loud."
Post by: starfugger on July 12, 2007, 11:15:24 AM