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Title: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: BOYANGAS on September 13, 2007, 10:38:46 AM
NO.
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Post by: badongrodrigs on September 13, 2007, 11:06:03 AM
nice thread. :roll:
:lol:
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Post by: Angst_Ridden on September 13, 2007, 11:13:37 AM
Certainly not. Mas gusto ko pa yung slow but played with emotion than very fast pro nonsense nmn. :-)
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Post by: BOYANGAS on September 13, 2007, 11:18:38 AM
nagexperiment ako magtanong sa mga kidies guitarist kung kaya nila yung intro ng collorado bulldog..yung iba kaya...at kayang kaya...tapos patugtugin mo wonderful tonight di nila maexecute ng may dynamic.panu nangyari yun?oha
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Post by: nealyu on September 13, 2007, 11:25:51 AM
of course not hehehehe
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Post by: skunkyfunk on September 13, 2007, 11:28:19 AM
I knew he had less than 10 posts. :-D
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Post by: namida on September 13, 2007, 11:31:15 AM
No. Like a tool to get a message across. Use judiciously as with any.
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Post by: bluenote on September 13, 2007, 12:16:21 PM
Naguluhan ako dun sa tanung ano nga yun?
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Post by: PRSMan on September 13, 2007, 12:26:18 PM
May kalaban na ang "what matters more is local" thread.
Tsaka yung "guitarist is a great man" thread.
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Post by: kaloyster on September 13, 2007, 01:20:24 PM
Technicality is king.
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Post by: bgarcia on September 13, 2007, 01:24:37 PM
No. +1 post for me. :-D
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Post by: deltaslim on September 13, 2007, 01:25:13 PM
Confucius say, "Better pissed off than pissed on..."
He orso say: "Why fart and waste it, when you can burp and taste it?"
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Post by: xelalien on September 13, 2007, 10:17:58 PM
kulit ng mga side-comments XD
sa topic: "kelangan pa bang i-memorize yan? bisyo na to!" :D
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: carefulwiththataxeeugene on September 14, 2007, 01:26:06 AM
now we're talkin'...a lot of guitar players that go fast are ones that have trouble with their phrasing kaya ayun...off to wonderland they go...pero di naman ganun lahat...i'm a trying hard shredder but when it comes solos for our own songs...i try to do a melodic solo rather than scale runs and technical boo boo's.... :-)
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Post by: progressive_pilipinas on September 14, 2007, 01:40:12 AM
no. mine is weak. speed is for run. good day. :mrgreen:
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Post by: tam_guitar on September 14, 2007, 01:48:53 AM
No
i guess
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Post by: bluenote on September 14, 2007, 08:15:37 AM
Simple follow you cannot instruction how can you graduation? :-D
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Post by: deltaslim on September 14, 2007, 08:22:35 AM
I told you not to go to, you go to... now look at!!!
:-D
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Post by: bluenote on September 14, 2007, 08:30:19 AM
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Post by: xelalien on September 14, 2007, 11:28:01 AM
bakit dadaanin sa bilis, dapat foreplay muna...... ;P
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Post by: PRSMan on September 14, 2007, 11:34:15 AM
Gaya nga ng sabi ng isang gradeschool teacher ko sa La Salle:
"You, you, and you... the both of you three... face the wall!" "Boys, fall in line alphabetically by height!" "Count off by 3... 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4..."
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Post by: deltaslim on September 14, 2007, 11:44:46 AM
Gaya nga ng sabi ng isang gradeschool teacher ko sa La Salle:
"You, you, and you... the both of you three... face the wall!" "Boys, fall in line alphabetically by height!" "Count off by 3... 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4..."
Anak ng tinapa! LSHS yun? Kung HS ko pa un di ako magugulat.
Sabagay... pag-college ko sa UP nagulat ako ang dami rin palang [grape] run!
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: PRSMan on September 14, 2007, 11:47:26 AM
Anak ng tinapa! LSHS yun? Kung HS ko pa un di ako magugulat.
Sabagay... pag-college ko sa UP nagulat ako ang dami rin palang [grape] run!
LSGH! Grade 7 teacher ko ata yun... o grade 5?
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Post by: deltaslim on September 14, 2007, 11:47:42 AM
Todo na natin...
· "Well well well. Look do we have here!" · "It's a no-win-win situation." · "Burn the bridge when you get there." · "Anulled and void." · "Mute and academic." · "C'mon let's join us!" · "If worse comes to shove." · "Are you joking my leg?" · "It's not my problem anymore, it's your problem anymore." · "You can never can tell." · "Been there, been that." · "Forget it about it." · "Give him the benefit of the daw." · "It's a blessing in the sky." · "Right there and right then." · "Where'd you came from?" · "Take things first at a time." · "You're barking at the wrong dog." · "You want to have your cake and bake it too." · "First and for all." · "Now and there." · "I'm only human nature." · "The sky's the langit." · "That's what I'm talking about it." · "One of these days is not like the other." · "So far, so good, so far." · "Time is of the elements." · "In the wink of an eye." · "The feeling is actual." · "For all intense and purposes." · "I ran into some errands." · "Hi. I'm (states name) , what's yours?" · "What is the world is coming to?" · "What is the next that is?" · "Get the most of both worlds." · "Bahala na sila sa mga batman nila." · "Whatever you say so." · "Base-to-base casis." · "My answers have been prayered." · "Please me alone!" · "It's as brand as new." · "So... what's a beautiful girl like you?...." · "I can't take it anymore of this!" · "Are you sure ka na ba?" · "Can't you just cut me some slacks?" · I couldn't care a damn! · What's your next class before this? · Nothing in this world is perfect except the word "change" · Can you repeat that for the second time around once more from the top? (ulitin natin hanggang mamatay tayo!) · My dad brought home a lot of hand-me-downs! (Translation: Damingpasalubong ng tatay ko.) · Standard and Chartered Bank · I'm very iterated!!! (transalation: galit sya! haha!) · I'm sorry, my boss just passed away. (translation: kakadaan lang ng boss nya.) · Hello, my boss is out of town. Would you like to wait? · What happened after the erection of Mayon Volcano? · Don't touch me not! · Hello?... For a while, please hang yourself... · Its spilled milk under the bridge. · Don't change anything! Keep it at ease. · Hello McDo? Mag-i-inquire lang ako kung magkano ang kidney meal? yung pang-batang pagkain) · You!!! You're not a boy anymore! You're a man anymore! (coach?!coach?!) · Out of fit ako these days eh... (translation: di sya nakakapag-exercise) · Come, lets join us! · Bring down the house down! · I'm the world champion of the World!!! · Beneath the Belt! · Rule of Hand... (thumb yata ibig sabihin...) · Can you repeat it once again? · Mukhang haggard-looking. · Do you have more brighter ideas? · Halatang obvious naman siya. · "Masakit ang headache ko" · "Ayoko na dito, nabo-boring ako" · "Pare, pinakyu ka.... pakyuhin mo rin!"
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Post by: kamots on September 14, 2007, 12:18:33 PM
Hehe... Meron din ganyan sa zobel. Pati nanay ko hindi to makalimutan. Nung grade 1 ako sabi ng teacher ko tunkol sa isang classmate ko "His mother's is gives him medicines" .
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: PRSMan on September 14, 2007, 12:22:57 PM
· "Well well well. Look do we have here!" · "It's a no-win-win situation." · "Burn the bridge when you get there." · "Anulled and void." · "Mute and academic." · "C'mon let's join us!" · "If worse comes to shove." · "Are you joking my leg?" · "It's not my problem anymore, it's your problem anymore." · "You can never can tell." · "Been there, been that." · "Forget it about it." · "Give him the benefit of the daw." · "It's a blessing in the sky." · "Right there and right then." · "Where'd you came from?" · "Take things first at a time." · "You're barking at the wrong dog." · "You want to have your cake and bake it too." · "First and for all." · "Now and there." · "I'm only human nature." · "The sky's the langit." · "That's what I'm talking about it." · "One of these days is not like the other." · "So far, so good, so far." · "Time is of the elements." · "In the wink of an eye." · "The feeling is actual." · "For all intense and purposes." · "I ran into some errands." · "Hi. I'm (states name) , what's yours?" · "What is the world is coming to?" · "What is the next that is?" · "Get the most of both worlds." · "Bahala na sila sa mga batman nila." · "Whatever you say so." · "Base-to-base casis." · "My answers have been prayered." · "Please me alone!" · "It's as brand as new." · "So... what's a beautiful girl like you?...." · "I can't take it anymore of this!" · "Are you sure ka na ba?" · "Can't you just cut me some slacks?" · I couldn't care a damn! · What's your next class before this? · Nothing in this world is perfect except the word "change" · Can you repeat that for the second time around once more from the top? (ulitin natin hanggang mamatay tayo!) · My dad brought home a lot of hand-me-downs! (Translation: Damingpasalubong ng tatay ko.) · Standard and Chartered Bank · I'm very iterated!!! (transalation: galit sya! haha!) · I'm sorry, my boss just passed away. (translation: kakadaan lang ng boss nya.) · Hello, my boss is out of town. Would you like to wait? · What happened after the erection of Mayon Volcano? · Don't touch me not! · Hello?... For a while, please hang yourself... · Its spilled milk under the bridge. · Don't change anything! Keep it at ease. · Hello McDo? Mag-i-inquire lang ako kung magkano ang kidney meal? yung pang-batang pagkain) · You!!! You're not a boy anymore! You're a man anymore! (coach?!coach?!) · Out of fit ako these days eh... (translation: di sya nakakapag-exercise) · Come, lets join us! · Bring down the house down! · I'm the world champion of the World!!! · Beneath the Belt! · Rule of Hand... (thumb yata ibig sabihin...) · Can you repeat it once again? · Mukhang haggard-looking. · Do you have more brighter ideas? · Halatang obvious naman siya. · "Masakit ang headache ko" · "Ayoko na dito, nabo-boring ako" · "Pare, pinakyu ka.... pakyuhin mo rin!"
Man, baliw ka talaga Joric... :-D Now that made my day!
May nakalimutan ka: "Let's cut him some slacks". Eh di naging shorts... :-D
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Post by: queso_ on September 14, 2007, 01:03:28 PM
· "Well well well. Look do we have here!" · "It's a no-win-win situation." · "Burn the bridge when you get there." · "Anulled and void." · "Mute and academic." · "C'mon let's join us!" · "If worse comes to shove." · "Are you joking my leg?" · "It's not my problem anymore, it's your problem anymore." · "You can never can tell." · "Been there, been that." · "Forget it about it." · "Give him the benefit of the daw." · "It's a blessing in the sky." · "Right there and right then." · "Where'd you came from?" · "Take things first at a time." · "You're barking at the wrong dog." · "You want to have your cake and bake it too." · "First and for all." · "Now and there." · "I'm only human nature." · "The sky's the langit." · "That's what I'm talking about it." · "One of these days is not like the other." · "So far, so good, so far." · "Time is of the elements." · "In the wink of an eye." · "The feeling is actual." · "For all intense and purposes." · "I ran into some errands." · "Hi. I'm (states name) , what's yours?" · "What is the world is coming to?" · "What is the next that is?" · "Get the most of both worlds." · "Bahala na sila sa mga batman nila." · "Whatever you say so." · "Base-to-base casis." · "My answers have been prayered." · "Please me alone!" · "It's as brand as new." · "So... what's a beautiful girl like you?...." · "I can't take it anymore of this!" · "Are you sure ka na ba?" · "Can't you just cut me some slacks?" · I couldn't care a damn! · What's your next class before this? · Nothing in this world is perfect except the word "change" · Can you repeat that for the second time around once more from the top? (ulitin natin hanggang mamatay tayo!) · My dad brought home a lot of hand-me-downs! (Translation: Damingpasalubong ng tatay ko.) · Standard and Chartered Bank · I'm very iterated!!! (transalation: galit sya! haha!) · I'm sorry, my boss just passed away. (translation: kakadaan lang ng boss nya.) · Hello, my boss is out of town. Would you like to wait? · What happened after the erection of Mayon Volcano? · Don't touch me not! · Hello?... For a while, please hang yourself... · Its spilled milk under the bridge. · Don't change anything! Keep it at ease. · Hello McDo? Mag-i-inquire lang ako kung magkano ang kidney meal? yung pang-batang pagkain) · You!!! You're not a boy anymore! You're a man anymore! (coach?!coach?!) · Out of fit ako these days eh... (translation: di sya nakakapag-exercise) · Come, lets join us! · Bring down the house down! · I'm the world champion of the World!!! · Beneath the Belt! · Rule of Hand... (thumb yata ibig sabihin...) · Can you repeat it once again? · Mukhang haggard-looking. · Do you have more brighter ideas? · Halatang obvious naman siya. · "Masakit ang headache ko" · "Ayoko na dito, nabo-boring ako" · "Pare, pinakyu ka.... pakyuhin mo rin!"
hahaha para akong baliw sa office nang kakatawa hahah.
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Post by: sponkel on September 14, 2007, 01:54:42 PM
best
thread
EVA
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Post by: xelalien on September 14, 2007, 02:03:33 PM
dagdag ako
"Get one whole sheet of paper, crosswise.."
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Post by: deltaslim on September 14, 2007, 03:25:09 PM
And now for some classic melanisms (true story!):
My brother is not a girl; he’s a gentleman.
That’s why I’m a success, it’s because I don’t middle in other people’s lives.
Don’t judge my brother; he’s not a book.
I won’t stoop down to my level.
Hello? Bulag ka ba? Bingi ka ba? Are you dep?
‘Yung STD, baka sa maruming toilet lang niya nakuha yan.
Eh, ikaw ba naman, durugin ang ari mo… Pag di ka naman manutok ng baril.
We are lovers, not fighters.
Kapatid ko pa rin siya. We are one and the same.
I don’t eat meat. I’m not a carnival.
Eto na po ang pinakamaligayang pasko at manigong taon sa inyong lahat. (During her acceptance speech at a Metro Filmfest awards night where her bioflick, directed by her late father Temyong Marquez, won an award.)
Sumasakit ang migraine ko.
Ang tatay ko ang only living legend na buhay!
Period na talaga; wala nang exclamation point. (When asked on S-Files if her present husband, Adam Lawyer, is her Mr. Right.).
Bakit ang dami mong tanong? You're so questionable.
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Post by: sponkel on September 14, 2007, 03:44:33 PM
ahhhhh.....
melanie marquez, I hope you never get any smarter
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Post by: speedkills on September 14, 2007, 08:05:55 PM
Xmpre.....................panoorin nio sila yngwie..........michael angelo.......sabihin niyo kung hindi magaling.........depende din naman yun sa type of music ehh...
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: BOYANGAS on September 14, 2007, 08:08:37 PM
kasi ok nga sila malmsteen e may mga guitarist yun lang alam speed...pag pinag slow mo na ..nawawala daw...panu kaya nangyari yun?
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Post by: trewzd on September 14, 2007, 08:13:28 PM
masgusto ko yung emotional para napapasayaw ka :-D
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Post by: Lahed92801 on September 14, 2007, 11:12:15 PM
if it was the ultimate measure then da best na pala to:
:|
I think not
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Post by: vansvhee on September 15, 2007, 12:00:05 AM
hell no...ndi bilis ang sukatan sa pag gi-gitara...
Man, baliw ka talaga Joric... :-D Now that made my day!
May nakalimutan ka: "Let's cut him some slacks". Eh di naging shorts... :-D
Funny story na remind lang ako dun sa cut him some slacks...
A few years ago my parents were getting ready to go to Australia.
My dad went to SM and bought himself new pants (slacks) cguro mga 5 na piraso...
When he got home he asked our maid to go to the sastre and specifically told her to tell the sastre to cut the pants short. He even folded the pants to where he was supposed to cut them...
Before leaving my mom told the maid to make it short as the sastre had cut the last batch of pants too long
Our mabait na helper then got to the sastre and told him to "make it short"....
After a few days the maid got the pants from the sastre and to my dad's surprise he had 5 brand new very expensive short pants as in walking shorts...
Edi nagalit sha ang sagot ng maid namin "sir sabi kasi ni ma'am make it short eh"
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Post by: mr_strap on September 15, 2007, 08:56:45 AM
:-D :-Dno :-D :-D
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Post by: andrew_O_O on September 15, 2007, 09:15:36 AM
eh pano to?
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Post by: shredderwannabe on September 15, 2007, 10:14:36 AM
ZOMG! it's so fast! Its so fast he almost sounds like he's making the sounds with his MOUTH! :-D
this is my favorite shredder! He's INSANELY good! Amazing!
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Post by: bendedbeam on September 18, 2007, 04:00:05 AM
I'm not a shredder, probably never will be :-( but I still believe that you don't have to shred to be able to play and be called skilled. So I'd say NO. Come to think of it the notes that stick are the ones that are properly accented and emphasized. Slow to medium speed, melodic just the like Walsh's and Felders take on hotel california. Parang last song syndrome talaga tong solo na to. I bet almost everybody here can just sing/hum the whole solo.
OT: may addition ako dun sa pinost ni Delta,
pare01: brod anong trabaho mo pare02: call center agent pare01: pare, diba tawag jan blue scholar job? :-D
pare01: san ba laro today? pare02: sa libis, club 650. pare01: indoor court ba yan? pare02: oo pre, ayaw namin ng open the air eh...
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Post by: BossingBoss on September 18, 2007, 06:25:26 AM
it's good if you can shred, but its better is you can do blues!!! wala nang mas sexy pang tunog kundi blues!!!
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Post by: calvs on September 18, 2007, 11:13:23 AM
Certainly not. Mas gusto ko pa yung slow but played with emotion than very fast pro nonsense nmn. :-)
+1 ko toh pansin ko kasi yung bumibilis na me and nung kaya ko na mag shred tapos bigla kong inaral yung isang acoustic na song na guardian angel for my GF biglang hirap na hirap ako sa timing
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Post by: tagagapo on January 23, 2008, 11:06:20 AM
Mas maganda kung both prang Richie Kotzen at si Perf
Sa speed naman marami akong kilalang ganito magaling mag shred tas pag jam walang buong kanta LoL
Pra sa akin mag maganda yung pagiging flexible ng isang guitarista sa kahti na anong music genre.
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Post by: shadowm00n on January 23, 2008, 02:52:10 PM
in general, its a big NO! but you have also to consider that all aspect counts. not only speed. 1 thing i noticed about to some begginers are craving for speed. it really amaze their eyes and suite their ears to hear very warm sweep and ascending arpeggio run. well, kanya kanyang trip lang yan. :lol:kung saan ka yo masaya, yun ang gawin nyo.:lol:
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Post by: Tasty on January 23, 2008, 03:20:41 PM
It is one of the measures for me but definitely not the only one. There are a lot of things to consider.
There's nothing wrong with playing fast as long as you do it cleanly and tastefully. Besides, it is a lot easier to play below your maximum speed than above it. :wink:
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Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on January 23, 2008, 07:58:06 PM
Funny story na remind lang ako dun sa cut him some slacks...
A few years ago my parents were getting ready to go to Australia.
My dad went to SM and bought himself new pants (slacks) cguro mga 5 na piraso...
When he got home he asked our maid to go to the sastre and specifically told her to tell the sastre to cut the pants short. He even folded the pants to where he was supposed to cut them...
Before leaving my mom told the maid to make it short as the sastre had cut the last batch of pants too long
Our mabait na helper then got to the sastre and told him to "make it short"....
After a few days the maid got the pants from the sastre and to my dad's surprise he had 5 brand new very expensive short pants as in walking shorts...
Edi nagalit sha ang sagot ng maid namin "sir sabi kasi ni ma'am make it short eh"
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: sixdayoldstring on January 23, 2008, 08:52:45 PM
speed is a tool...just one tool para ma-execute mo yung gusto mong ilabas na tunog...i personally have that frustration sometimes, may naisip akong magandang line but i can't play it kasi hindi kaya ng kamay ko...pero that doesn't mean na ang mabilis maggitara eh hindi best...kasi kung lahat ng magagandang tunog na naiisip nya ay kaya nyang gawin mabilis man yun o mabagal, eh di magaling nga sya... :-D
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Post by: khuxielog on January 24, 2008, 01:08:19 AM
no.. :-D i dont.
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Post by: V.I.O.L.I.N.S on January 24, 2008, 12:39:19 PM
tama ka jan...wala sa bilis ang galing...nasa versatility
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Post by: burnthyfret on January 24, 2008, 04:11:48 PM
mas gusto koh yun playing style ni steve vai sa video niya "for the love of god". ang ganda ng technique at tone manipulation niya.. lahat ata andun ehh.. mga screaming vibratos, speed picking, bends.. basta maganda.. hahaha.. mas trip koh yun mga ganun kesa naman yun plain speed na nakakasakit lang sa tenga.. hahaha..
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Post by: julsam on January 24, 2008, 05:52:03 PM
nope.
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Post by: william251082 on March 20, 2008, 07:48:44 PM
Listen to Jim Hall and all of Bill Evans ballad!
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Post by: yngwievankotzen on March 21, 2008, 09:21:43 PM
the key word is "ONLY", i think nothing is the "only" measure of anything
of course speed is one measure :wink:
i agree!
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Post by: markitut on March 21, 2008, 09:44:02 PM
no..
my opinion.. dapat mgaling sa phrasing.. kahit naglalaro lng sa pentatonic scale, pero ang sarap pakinggan.. unlike other shedders, puro speed.. walang impact..
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Post by: boogsy on March 21, 2008, 11:06:39 PM
Music was never about finger acrobatics. Its all about soul.
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Post by: captainsatch on March 22, 2008, 12:44:14 AM
malaking factor ang speed sa pag determine ng magaling. but its not all bout speed syempre. pag metal tugtugan siguro speed and basis pero in general isang factor lang yan
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Post by: Mardk on March 22, 2008, 04:19:41 AM
i can't solo. :(
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Post by: mikomiko on March 22, 2008, 04:21:24 AM
Madami naman mabilis ang daliri na guitarist ehh pero its that tone that matters yung clarity at consistencey ng notes :-D i guess speed is only one of the many factors just like the above post sez so
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: Tasty on March 22, 2008, 09:17:37 AM
NO. But i love the song "Flight Of The Bumblebee" and it is freakin' fast!!
sir yung band na "at vance" may version din sila ng flight of the bumblebee sa album nila na "chained".. narinig nyo na yun sir? ayus pagka tirada.. :-D
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Post by: butoyonly on March 22, 2008, 01:02:46 PM
of course not. harmony is more important even if it's slow..hehe ^_^
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Post by: v00doochi1d on March 22, 2008, 01:30:26 PM
para saken yung feel muna...bago yung speed...:mrgreen:
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Post by: Langxst on March 22, 2008, 01:37:34 PM
napapa headbang ba kayo kapag nag sweep na?
ako kasi mas napapa headbang kapag groovy. :evil:
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: noto.emo on March 22, 2008, 01:51:01 PM
di masyado, it depends kung sino ang gumagawa.... ung originality saka kung gaano kalinis at ka groovy ung sound or technique :mrgreen:
slow player ako.... mas trip ko timing at groove heheh :mrgreen:
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Post by: Kipling241 on March 22, 2008, 04:10:08 PM
YES!! are you insane??? haha... its the ONLY measure. the ONLY standard! if you dont believe it, you cant do it. i cant do it, thats why im not the best.
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Post by: cowboyfromhell on March 22, 2008, 10:21:30 PM
oo nakakamangha nga ung mga mabibilis mag gitara, pero diba, mabilis ka nga andumi naman at ang gulo ng lead..walang harmony..ouch..
like one time, bumalik ako sa alma mater ko nung highschool para manuod ng musicfest (battle of the bands) then i see some students na grabe ambibilis ng kamay!! pero, wala naman naiintindihan :| :| kasi people tend to show-off kahit na alam nila na hindi talaga nila kayang gawin ung isang bagay.. :|
sa tingin ko mas malupit pa rin pag may emotions pag dating sa lead :-D
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Post by: noto.emo on March 23, 2008, 07:11:00 AM
ung tipong kahit isang note lang kaya mag pasigaw ng crowd... angus young... :evil:
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Post by: kimBuhain on March 23, 2008, 08:04:07 AM
preferences lang yan! ask michael angelo batio and eric clapton
you get two different answers! :-)
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Post by: jeibi16 on March 23, 2008, 10:47:38 AM
ika nga sa slogan na nakita ko somewhere in SLEX... "Wag mag matulin, walang premyo sa dulo" :mrgreen:
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Post by: rad_12 on March 23, 2008, 01:58:30 PM
speed additional spice lang sa tingin ko hindi mo naman kelangan sa lahat ng oras yan eh. kung puro speed ka lang walang melody? naku patay tayo diyan hehehehe
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Post by: yahoo! on March 23, 2008, 08:35:43 PM
NAGHAHABOL :-D
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Post by: stat!c on March 23, 2008, 09:12:17 PM
ung TONE siguru ang pinaka measurement ko... next ung melody and phrasing, mas malufet kung mahahalo ung speed na ang ending eh super landi na bend. hehehe.
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: White Falcon on April 24, 2008, 09:31:15 AM
I think hinde. Ang pinaka-key siguro eh yung Linis, melody at accuracy ng kamay. Yung kung baka he has his own unique way of playing di yung ginagaya lang sa iba. So example ko siguro si John Petrucci ng Dream Theater...
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Post by: rad_12 on April 24, 2008, 10:09:43 AM
maganda kung marunong kang maglagay ng magandang melody at the same time malinis, sabi nga ng iba sarap sa tenga pakinggan.
like frank gambale my speed pero sarap pakinggan nung mga ginawa niya ang linis para sa'kin :-)
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: siore on April 24, 2008, 10:16:09 AM
Speed is a tool in a guitarist's arsenal. But you can't have it without practicing. The best guitarists are very versatile, so they could express themselves through their music in a wider variety of ways.
IMO, most good guitarists have speed at their disposal. If they don't, they make up for it in other aspects of their playing.
:-)
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Post by: markv on April 24, 2008, 10:55:14 AM
tama, speed is only a tool!
dahil pag wala akong speed, hindi relaxed ang fingers ko at para akong 'nanggigigil sa picking' pag kapos sa practice! :lol:
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Post by: White Falcon on April 24, 2008, 11:03:58 AM
Pinaka-susi is what I mean. Di lang sa speed diba? So yung key para mameasure ka if you're magaling is your accuracy and linis ng pagtugog, then your originality and pagiging innovative..
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Post by: siore on April 24, 2008, 11:06:24 AM
Ayan, may dash pala... sounds bastos daw kasi pare. :lol:
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Post by: neiloid on April 24, 2008, 11:29:30 AM
NO. (my first post! lol.)
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: White Falcon on April 24, 2008, 12:07:34 PM
Ayan, may dash pala... sounds bastos daw kasi pare. :lol:
Aw.. Di ko alam.. Sorry sorry sorry.. I didn't mean it.. :-( Tag-lish kasi. :|
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Post by: tiyowoy on April 26, 2008, 02:42:16 PM
Speed is just a slice, not the whole pizza. Ang end goal pa din dapat ng isang gitarista is musicality.
My example: George Harrison of the Beatles is way much better than Yngwie Malmsteen. Yung mga guitar licks niya...immortal. Just listen to his solo on the song Something and you'll get the point.
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Post by: quaternotetriplet on April 26, 2008, 03:12:54 PM
no.
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Post by: mikel2221 on June 26, 2008, 12:31:49 AM
if you use speed you can do many solo's..because there are solo's that out of this world..and it is easy for you to learn new lesson..
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Post by: rad_12 on June 26, 2008, 12:41:13 AM
pero mas maganda well-balance yung speed and melodic lines tapos malagkit ka pang mag-patunog sarap nun. :-D
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Post by: jay martin on June 26, 2008, 01:42:58 AM
Hell no! 8-)
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: guitbox on June 26, 2008, 11:03:10 AM
IMHO---No. but when you say "measure", it will now depend on how you define "best".
for me, other parameters to consider are as follows: -clarity (meaning clean ung notes, lalo na kung mabilis ung runs) -tone -phrasing/feel -creativity
ano pa ba...? yan muna. :-D
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: chadrobles on June 26, 2008, 12:22:51 PM
no, i consider speed only as a measure or the betterer :-D
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: psychic_sushi on June 26, 2008, 12:28:05 PM
speed only as a measure of the best?
nope. its a measure of velocity.
but in a drag race, on the autobahn, and in a food eating competition, it certainly is.
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: bluejem on June 26, 2008, 12:46:48 PM
but in a drag race, on the autobahn, and in a food eating competition, it certainly is.
+1000 Master :-D.Never was it taught to me as my aim to learn guitar,instead playing right was more imphasized. :-D
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: karlvalerio on June 26, 2008, 12:47:33 PM
for me its a no! no!
its surely is hard to play as fast as yngwie malmsteen or buckethead or michael angelo batio...... but for me the sense or the significance of the song is more important its a given fact that fast is good, but the creeps that you can give to your listeners would be better.......
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: undeceitful_munky on September 09, 2008, 07:07:16 AM
For me no, this is why forums are helpful. Forums are opinion based. But at least we get to hear a lot of feedbacks from other people. :-)
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 09, 2008, 09:16:02 AM
NO
puro bilis pero walang feel(sarap), nonsense.
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: Santo Muerte on September 09, 2008, 09:42:00 AM
Same thing kung puro bend, feel at melody lang. There's a time when you also need to tear it up. You have to have a balance of both. A great guitarist is someone who can rip people's faces off with blistering speed & make grown men cry with the notes they bend.
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Post by: aya_yuson on September 09, 2008, 10:10:31 AM
Mice can be incredibly fast. Outside of the movie, Ratatouille, no one's ever impressed with mice.
Speed's nice but it isn't everything.
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Post by: gainsucker on September 09, 2008, 10:53:27 AM
Same thing kung puro bend, feel at melody lang. There's a time when you also need to tear it up. You have to have a balance of both. A great guitarist is someone who can rip people's faces off with blistering speed & make grown men cry with the notes they bend.
tumpak...
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: erniebong on September 09, 2008, 01:15:58 PM
The best?
If one could give justice to these 3 aspects of musicality...
1) Tone 2) chops 3) Feel
Of course creativity is a pre requisite
see no mention of speed.... you can play fast and suck, and you can play slow and suck either! if these 3 aspects are taken out of the picture
speed is irrelevant to greatness but sure is relevant to whatever type of music your playing with. its all about context for any musical idea to make sense.
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Post by: paolo_axentro on September 09, 2008, 01:31:29 PM
Same thing kung puro bend, feel at melody lang. There's a time when you also need to tear it up. You have to have a balance of both. A great guitarist is someone who can rip people's faces off with blistering speed & make grown men cry with the notes they bend.
tama, ang question kasi ng thread starter DO YOU CONSIDER "SPEED ONLY" AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
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Post by: chito_eoi on September 09, 2008, 01:34:35 PM
YES!
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Post by: erniebong on September 09, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
pardon lang po, just wondering?
for the thread starter i got a blatantly honest question...
is this coming from a frustration of not having to play Fast enough?
im surprised this thread became interesting
Tanung lang po, pwede ding hindi sagutin,
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Post by: paolo_axentro on September 09, 2008, 01:42:51 PM
hahaha
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Post by: erniebong on September 09, 2008, 01:53:45 PM
how about if we turn this thing around a bit...
what if i say Yes speed is the only measure of the best and since i was the best i was asked to play on top of a reggae piece, then i do the some of my tricks in the bag and do the 32 sec drills.... what does that make me?
Stupid right? so that brings us again to context.... its all about context... don't get me wrong i like speed given in the its right place. and i like slow playing given in it's right context as well.
that's about all for me nice thread tho
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Post by: kingthomas on September 09, 2008, 01:57:48 PM
no. speed is only a tool in expressing yourself. with that, a good choice of notes must also be considered.
:-D
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Post by: markv on September 09, 2008, 04:04:06 PM
Quote
DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
not really, but when i'm properly warmed up and may discipline ako sa maintenance ng speed.... i could play my best hehehe :-D
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: chito_eoi on September 09, 2008, 04:08:45 PM
for the thread starter i got a blatantly honest question...
is this coming from a frustration of not having to play Fast enough?
im surprised this thread became interesting
Tanung lang po, pwede ding hindi sagutin,
wala talagang sasagot sa tanong mo this thread was started Sept. 13, 2007.and the threadstarter is allready banned in this site. ...tutal binuhay nalang ulit tong thread na to... wag na kayong magtanong!, sumagot nalang kayo ng sumagot! WALA NAMANG NAKALAGAY SA TITLE NA MAG EXPLAIN KAYO EH!
Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST? chito_eoi: YES!
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Post by: pao2pao16 on September 09, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
nope
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Post by: 2joeross on September 11, 2008, 05:04:42 PM
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Post by: pnksntdead on September 08, 2009, 10:13:37 AM
i think knowing when to play less and slow when the song calls for it is also important to be a well rounded player. depende sa hinahanap ng kanta. if you're jamming with metallica, go crazy. if you're jamming with robert cray, mas restained and more emphasis on phrasing.
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Post by: blackwingchai on September 08, 2009, 10:20:14 AM
NO.
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Post by: pitongjerome on September 08, 2009, 10:26:42 AM
DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
NO!
but it is one thing. there are many more things to consider, and it is one.
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: red_hot on September 08, 2009, 10:34:44 AM
i go for melody pero kung speed with melody sarap nun.....
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Post by: boogsy on September 08, 2009, 10:45:39 AM
In a word, no.
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: donard on September 08, 2009, 11:43:53 AM
no..
playing with a speed is better but for me...
not all the time
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: shredmonster on September 08, 2009, 12:51:04 PM
no but it is one good way of measuring being able to play slow is not that impressive if people don't know anything about playing guitar
but play fast and a lot of people will go crazy
just my opinion...
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: calculon on September 08, 2009, 01:53:10 PM
Phrasing,tone and speeeed!!! :evil:
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: digitalcyco on September 08, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
YES OF COURSE SPEED IS THE ONLY MEASURE OF BEST. KELANGAN MAGING FASTEST GUITARIST OF THE PHILIPPINES. :-D :-D :-D :-D
*hanap ma download ng Speed Kills*
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Post by: electricon27 on September 12, 2009, 10:33:05 AM
No..speed is not all that is considered to be the best musician
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: nitroaurora on September 12, 2009, 02:22:37 PM
slow or fast guitar playing? hmm..... prang who sounds good between Andy Summers, John Frusciante versus Kerry King and Kirk Hammet yan ah, hehehe...
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: doink_rules on September 18, 2009, 05:23:34 AM
hindi basihan ang speed if you meant on a solo..
solo is for me is an expression you want to emphasize on a song/music the moment you hear, feel and interpret it,.
kung feel mo mabilis or mabagal, as long as that is what you feel, go!
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: kragz on September 19, 2009, 06:42:02 AM
not really. pero kung pag hahaluin mo ung slow(with feeling) + fast(w/o feeling) solo/lick it'll be cool
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: ibysdad on September 19, 2009, 07:08:15 AM
kung karera ng kotse siguro.
but music is not all just about speed!
there are more important things like:
composing melody phrasing searching for the best tone possible in a live or studio setting being successful career-wise in music
THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS TO WORK ON ON THIS VERY DIVERSE ART
I read a Van Halen interview in a Guitar World Magazine ages ago and he said something like this: "For kids playing like typewriters? They can cop my speed but they can't cop my feel"
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Post by: rom2582 on September 20, 2009, 12:43:08 AM
speed is just 1 technique. there are other things to consider to be one the best.. :-D :-)
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: rednas on September 20, 2009, 06:41:17 AM
Speed is not a good measuring stick for guitar players. But - I wish I could play faster. :-P
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Post by: bumbum on September 20, 2009, 10:11:31 AM
speed? hindi bro. mas madaling maggitara ng mabilis kesa maggitara ng masarap. yung mga walang alam sa gitara,pag nakita nilang mabilis ang daliri ayun magaling na para sa kanila yun. :-D
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Post by: iarekevin on September 20, 2009, 10:45:17 AM
speed is only part of a guitarist's overall skill. so no.
but ang mga guitarist nman may mga "specialties" yan eh.. some love shredding, breakdowns, riffing, and iba nman melody lang talaga.. it depends lang talaga on the guitarist :-D YEAH
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Post by: art_attack16 on September 20, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
tanong nyo kay francesco fareri yan hehehe
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Post by: dudeofdude on September 20, 2009, 04:36:53 PM
speed=show-off theory and application=real musician both=govan
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Post by: ejecruz on September 20, 2009, 07:35:36 PM
No, :-D
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Post by: ussfdoc on September 21, 2009, 05:34:24 AM
Definitely not. I still consider Hendrix to be the best guitar player who ever lived and there are a LOT of people faster than he was.
Be well,
Doc
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Post by: pitongjerome on September 21, 2009, 08:27:36 AM
no, as you need to put your speed into place. imagine bb king playing supah fast?! that aint right. well imo some genres dont fit the "speed" thing right, or should i say, "speed" doesnt fit the genre.
but still, speed+accuracy will benefit you. mas mabuting meron ka nun kahit di palaging kailangan kesa kailangan mo na nun pero wala ka namang mailabas. just my opinion though.
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Post by: doink_rules on September 21, 2009, 11:39:15 PM
no, as you need to put your speed into place. imagine bb king playing supah fast?! that aint right. well imo some genres dont fit the "speed" thing right, or should i say, "speed" doesnt fit the genre.
but still, speed+accuracy will benefit you. mas mabuting meron ka nun kahit di palaging kailangan kesa kailangan mo na nun pero wala ka namang mailabas. just my opinion though.
.agree
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Post by: erniebong on September 21, 2009, 11:58:20 PM
nope.... but its really cool to have it in your bag of tricks even more cooler when used at the perfect moment :wink:
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Post by: paolo_du on September 22, 2009, 01:44:22 PM
Di ko kasi kaya ang mabilis kaya.... NO!!!!!! :-D
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Post by: doink_rules on September 22, 2009, 11:17:31 PM
i'd rather go slow basta may laman at damdamin. rather than fast hands to show-off and wala sa dibdib ang laman... other than that, it's fine..
my two cents worth.
+10 heart in playing ang importante
pero sa expirience ko sa isang EMO na kinukwestyon ang mga SHREDDER???
walang ganunAN!!!!!
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Post by: the_Nong on September 27, 2009, 08:27:25 AM
it's like playing the Blues.. kahit mabagal at 3 notes lang, basta galing sa loob, that's it.. eh kung mabilis nga, pero puro technical, parang walang feeling.. eh hindi na Blues yon.. green? red? i don't know.
pero sa expirience ko sa isang EMO na kinukwestyon ang mga SHREDDER???
walang ganunAN!!!!!
btw, kung sakin man naka address yang message mo, well, excuse me, hindi ako EMO. i am a Bluesman at heart, i play pop-punk for fun. and wala naman akong kinukestyon.. my opinon applies to all, bluesman man, o shredder, o metal, o classic rocker or even classical.. ngayon, kung tinamaan ka.. diko na kasalanan yun..
easy ka lang. hindi ka kasing tanda ko para ma high-blood.
pero kundi sakin yang message mo.. ignore nalang.. :wink:
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Post by: thr3ten on September 27, 2009, 08:39:18 AM
speed and a whole lotta love :wink:
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Post by: donard on September 27, 2009, 08:46:44 AM
it's like playing the Blues.. kahit mabagal at 3 notes lang, basta galing sa loob, that's it.. eh kung mabilis nga, pero puro technical, parang walang feeling.. eh hindi na Blues yon.. green? red? i don't know.
btw, kung sakin man naka address yang message mo, well, excuse me, hindi ako EMO. i am a Bluesman at heart, i play pop-punk for fun. and wala naman akong kinukestyon.. my opinon applies to all, bluesman man, o shredder, o metal, o classic rocker or even classical.. ngayon, kung tinamaan ka.. diko na kasalanan yun..
easy ka lang. hindi ka kasing tanda ko para ma high-blood.
pero kundi sakin yang message mo.. ignore nalang.. :wink:
easy lang sir hindi para sayo yun hehe :-D
i just mention it to share my expirience in the said topic
di po ako nagpopost dito for arguments
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Post by: the_Nong on September 27, 2009, 09:36:56 AM
hehehehehe.. sorry man.. :-D
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Post by: donard on September 27, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyyy... bati na sila. :-P
ganyan dapat sa gc. ok kiss sabay hug na, dali! :wink:
Title: Re: DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?
Post by: Mindovermatter on September 27, 2009, 09:48:31 PM
Other kasi, in solos, what's a solo without the fast speed? So, maybe I can consider speed only as a measure of the best(in solos). :-P
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Post by: Ryn on September 27, 2009, 10:47:57 PM
DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST
in my opinion, no. also, speed is nothing without accuracy and melody. take for example the guitarists of slayer during their early days (not sure today coz' i don't listen to them anymore), both the guitarists have speed but if you listen to their solos, ang dumi and minsan pa hindi akma sa song kumbaga walang storya basta may mapindot lang ok na yun. i don't want to offend any slayer fans, i'm just citing an example.
just my 2 cents :wink:
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Post by: more1898 on September 28, 2009, 12:03:07 PM
In my own opinion eh bonus na lang ang speed. Why? kasi may mga passages pa rin or like phrasing na kailangan ng speed and it applies ingridients to a particular solos. And ofcourse kapag mabilis ang tempo it needs speed, but im still into a good melodic solos kahit mabagal. Marami namang guitaristang hinde speed pero may istorya ang mga solos. That's all..Good day!
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Post by: ytse_neil on September 28, 2009, 02:27:04 PM
maganda sana kung naghahalo ang speed and accuracy para mas maganda quality ng mga solos..
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Post by: clean_tube on September 29, 2009, 07:25:49 PM
Yes :)
Speed,Accuracy,Precision :evil:
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Post by: timmy page on October 04, 2009, 04:06:42 PM
no way,, listen to Jimmy page and ul see wat mean,, though kaya nya ring maging mabilis xD
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Post by: donard on October 04, 2009, 04:54:29 PM
^ text spelling mo bro
trying to have a speed factor but still i cant apply it with precision in my riffs :oops:
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Post by: timmy page on October 04, 2009, 05:01:40 PM
explore various ways sa pag hold ng pick,, duon tlga nakadepende
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Post by: donard on October 04, 2009, 05:21:16 PM
^ i mean speedy licks minsan di bagay sa song
by the way i think speed is just a part of being the best hehe :-D :-D
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Post by: timmy page on October 04, 2009, 07:11:10 PM
eric clapton for example,, hes not that quick pero hes one of the greatest walang duda.. he was actually called "slow hands" by the yardbirds kung saan nya nakasama sila jimmy page at jeff beck
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Post by: pitongjerome on December 17, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
speed is a product of playing slowly and accurately over time..
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Post by: aHeartThatNeverFade on December 17, 2009, 10:47:45 PM
speed is a product of playing slowly and accurately over time..
+1
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Post by: FusionDaryl on December 18, 2009, 11:09:55 AM
Listen to Guthrie Govan,Greg Howe,Frank Gambale,Richie Kotzen and Shawn Lane....They have speed and they are definitely MELODIC!!!.......Add nyo na rin si Pete Lesperance at si Bill Leverty.... :-D
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Post by: SeafoodPancake on December 18, 2009, 01:08:57 PM
Absolutley NOT. Aanhin mo ang bilis kung hindi naman malinis..
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Post by: ernestjulian on December 18, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
Certainly not. Mas gusto ko pa yung slow but played with emotion than very fast pro nonsense nmn. :-)
that's right..
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Post by: darkfretlord on February 08, 2010, 05:37:38 PM
no.
because you can be the best even if you're not running through lightning fast solos.
but IMO, i love speed, because for me its easier to slow down if you're fast than to speed up if you are slow.
because to be fast means you came from being slow and practiced your way to be a fast and clean player.
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Post by: choki choki on February 08, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
Speed or technique is a huge factor to measure your capacity to combine and explore licks and melodies. without speed you will be getting stuck with those endless bluesy thing. when you imagine a melody or phrasing it is important that you can execute it precisely. So i guess YES.. IMO Shred On !!!
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Post by: darkfretlord on February 10, 2010, 09:34:12 AM
Speed or technique is a huge factor to measure your capacity to combine and explore licks and melodies. without speed you will be getting stuck with those endless bluesy thing. when you imagine a melody or phrasing it is important that you can execute it precisely. So i guess YES.. IMO Shred On !!!
but the question is "DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?"
since you said "Speed or technique is a huge factor to measure your capacity to combine and explore licks and melodies", which means it is not the ONLY measure.
so its a no?
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Post by: thrash666 on February 10, 2010, 09:37:06 AM
Speed is teh shiz :lol:
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Post by: choki choki on February 10, 2010, 06:18:57 PM
but the question is "DO YOU CONSIDER SPEED ONLY AS A MEASURE OF THE BEST?"
since you said "Speed or technique is a huge factor to measure your capacity to combine and explore licks and melodies", which means it is not the ONLY measure.
so its a no?
YES.. !!! I consider Speed as the measure of the best. yun lang, IMO
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Post by: vhunter on February 10, 2010, 06:28:41 PM
Every time i click on this thread, I get a good laugh! Hahaha. Speed is like verbal diarrhea. You say alot of things you could say in maybe one concise sentence.
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Post by: vhunter on February 10, 2010, 06:32:21 PM
I have another good one... do you know how some people like the sound of their own voice? hahhaha. Yes Im having posting diarrhea! It must be a measure of the best in posting. Hahahha
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Post by: paranoid on February 10, 2010, 08:07:41 PM
What you think is 'best' may not be the 'best' for the others. Some may like Gloc 9 but some may like John Mayer.
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Post by: choki choki on February 11, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
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Post by: juan_portnoy on February 11, 2010, 09:48:55 PM
Speed only? Certainly not.. Yung speed sa fretboard para sakin ay parang speed rin sa kotse.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people would like to own cars that have a high top speed. And I have not met anyone who prefers cars that only have a top speed of around 40 to 50 kph. haha! Pero hindi ibig sabihin na people are gona be driving at top speed everytime they drive. It's just good to know that you can go fast when when you want to :-D But that's just me though.. :-D
Oh and by the way.. Eric Clapton does 16th-note licks to.. he just does them with style and he certainly does not over-use them :-)
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Post by: choki choki on February 11, 2010, 10:03:59 PM
Speed only? Certainly not.. Yung speed sa fretboard para sakin ay parang speed rin sa kotse.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people would like to own cars that have a high top speed. And I have not met anyone who prefers cars that only have a top speed of around 40 to 50 kph. haha! Pero hindi ibig sabihin na people are gona be driving at top speed everytime they drive. It's just good to know that you can go fast when when you want to :-D But that's just me though.. :-D
Oh and by the way.. Eric Clapton does 16th-note licks too.. he just does them with style and he certainly does not over-use them :-)
Mismo! Well-said. :-)
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Post by: juan_portnoy on April 28, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
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Post by: project on April 28, 2010, 10:45:49 PM
aanhin mo ang speed kung sintunado ka naman? :mrgreen:
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Post by: niko062 on May 01, 2010, 06:47:04 PM
xempre ndi. guitar playing (fortunately) is not one dimentional. madami guitarista na pabilisan, pero binabalik balikan parin natin yung guitarists na musically gifted.
speed, soul, technique, musicality, creativity, music theory etc.. are all tools for guitarists. the question is how do you use them? personally i still prefer the old school gods like clapton, slash, jimmy page, jimmy hendrix, peter green.. etc.. pero i admit, entertaining panoorin ng mga uber technical/fast players pa minsan minsan (let them reinvent the wheel haha).. cheers!!
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Post by: samuelfianza on May 02, 2010, 12:31:14 AM
Speed = Sport. Feel = Music.
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Post by: burnsbhm on May 02, 2010, 01:13:42 AM
Speed or technique is a huge factor to measure your capacity to combine and explore licks and melodies. without speed you will be getting stuck with those endless bluesy thing. when you imagine a melody or phrasing it is important that you can execute it precisely. So i guess YES.. IMO Shred On !!!
wla ako mga2wa kung yan yung opoinion mo..d kita kokontrahin..btw, top guitarists in the world says speed is not the only thing in music or playing guitar..speed is another point in playing..but feelings and heart is huge factor..you can communnicate with your listeners.. and as every guitarist say.."you can't run if you don't know how to walk.." :evil:
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Post by: Roller_Caster on May 28, 2010, 11:29:46 AM
THREAD OF THE YEAR LOL!
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Post by: choki choki on May 28, 2010, 11:42:34 AM
may napatunayan ka na ba sa sarili mo na mas hihigit pa galing mo kay Clapton?
sorry guys di ko mapigilan :oops:
Bro wala naman ako sinabi na magaling ako kay clapton.. sabi ko lng di ako nagagalingan sa kanya.. kze iba standard ko when it comes to be the best.. ayun ..
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Post by: pitongjerome on May 28, 2010, 11:52:32 AM
eh, hindi naman ako nagagalingan kay clapton eh.. sorry IMO kaze nga iba ang batayan ko ng BEST.. ok !!!
:)
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Post by: wireless_system on May 28, 2010, 08:58:51 PM
I did consider being fast as the measure of the best. I was naive back then...
bilib na bilib ako dati kay MAB. pero ngayon di na...
Mas madaling maging "technically good" through practise, kaysa gumawa ng melody na "tumatatak" pag narinig. kahit yung mga may madaming alam sa theory, di rin nakakagawa ng magandang kanta, madalas mediocre lang.
importante din ang technique sabi ni Friedman "technique is like a bank". madami kang pwedeng magawa sa composition kung technically good ka.
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Post by: choki choki on May 29, 2010, 01:28:40 AM
I did consider being fast as the measure of the best. I was naive back then...
bilib na bilib ako dati kay MAB. pero ngayon di na...
Mas madaling maging "technically good" through practise, kaysa gumawa ng melody na "tumatatak" pag narinig. kahit yung mga may madaming alam sa theory, di rin nakakagawa ng magandang kanta, madalas mediocre lang.
importante din ang technique sabi ni Friedman "technique is like a bank". madami kang pwedeng magawa sa composition kung technically good ka.
Nice +1
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Post by: albumin on May 29, 2010, 07:52:37 AM
I did consider being fast as the measure of the best. I was naive back then...
bilib na bilib ako dati kay MAB. pero ngayon di na...
Mas madaling maging "technically good" through practise, kaysa gumawa ng melody na "tumatatak" pag narinig. kahit yung mga may madaming alam sa theory, di rin nakakagawa ng magandang kanta, madalas mediocre lang.
importante din ang technique sabi ni Friedman "technique is like a bank". madami kang pwedeng magawa sa composition kung technically good ka.
i think you're contradicting yourself. umagree kayo sa statement niya pero....
hindi magaling si clapton. yan ang sabi niyo diba?
tanung lang... sige nga... could you give examples ng mga gitarista na MAGALING para sayo? at least 3.. or baka walang magaling para sa inyo.. sabihin niyo lang... hindi sa sinasabi ko na porke nakagawa ng mga sikat/sumikat na kanta, magaling na.. pero sige nga. lets see. i wanna see your standards. kasi ako, i consider clapton bilang isa sa mga magagaling na gitarista na nabuhay sa mundo.. he's also one of my influences too...
sorry mods. kung mejo OT na to.
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Post by: angeloesteban14 on May 29, 2010, 09:01:55 AM
tanung lang... sige nga... could you give examples ng mga gitarista na MAGALING para sayo? at least 3.. or baka walang magaling para sa inyo.. sabihin niyo lang... hindi sa sinasabi ko na porke nakagawa ng mga sikat/sumikat na kanta, magaling na.. pero sige nga. lets see. i wanna see your standards. kasi ako, i consider clapton bilang isa sa mga magagaling na gitarista na nabuhay sa mundo.. he's also one of my influences too...
sorry mods. kung mejo OT na to.
Herman Li :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: albumin on May 29, 2010, 09:08:18 AM
yun na nga eh. sa studio ang galing(?)... pero di na madala pag live.. recording na pine-playback yung ginagamit nila sa live gigs nila diba? (correct me if i'm wrong)
oh well. OT na to sir.
BTT: like what i've said before, NO.
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Post by: wireless_system on May 29, 2010, 11:45:06 AM
tanung lang... sige nga... could you give examples ng mga gitarista na MAGALING para sayo? at least 3.. or baka walang magaling para sa inyo.. sabihin niyo lang... hindi sa sinasabi ko na porke nakagawa ng mga sikat/sumikat na kanta, magaling na.. pero sige nga. lets see. i wanna see your standards. kasi ako, i consider clapton bilang isa sa mga magagaling na gitarista na nabuhay sa mundo.. he's also one of my influences too...
sorry mods. kung mejo OT na to.
you got my statement wrong. Di ko sinabi na di ako nagagalingan kay clapton(gusto ko rin kanta nya as guitarist). I DID consider speed for being the best. di tuluyang matatangal sakin yan( di na yan ang batayan ko talaga ngayon) the guitarists I admire are still a shedder. Pero di na ko mapapaWOW ng ibang gitarista ngayon na pure shred lang. I considered Kurt Cobain as a good musician, but not as a good guitarist.
Sino ang magaling para sa kin? -Marty Friedman -Paul Gilbert -Satch sila talaga yung pinaka inaadmire ko.
others na gusto ko yung music: andy mckee zack kim santana clapton actually madami pa (mga gitarista ng classic rock)
for rhythm Hetfield Mustain
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Post by: choki choki on May 29, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
tanung lang... sige nga... could you give examples ng mga gitarista na MAGALING para sayo? at least 3.. or baka walang magaling para sa inyo.. sabihin niyo lang... hindi sa sinasabi ko na porke nakagawa ng mga sikat/sumikat na kanta, magaling na.. pero sige nga. lets see. i wanna see your standards. kasi ako, i consider clapton bilang isa sa mga magagaling na gitarista na nabuhay sa mundo.. he's also one of my influences too...
sorry mods. kung mejo OT na to.
[/quote] List of guitarist i admire? too many to mention, but here's some of them John Petrucci Paul Gilbert Steve Vai Michael Angelo Batio ~ Intimidating Technique, the reason some guitarist down him.. still excellent musician Yngwie Malmsteen ~ Monotonous, but perfect for his chosen music Satch Hutchings Michael Romeo Marty Friedman Kirk Hammet etc.. Take note Clapton is not included in the list.
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Post by: albumin on May 29, 2010, 12:55:51 PM
you got my statement wrong. Di ko sinabi na di ako nagagalingan kay clapton(gusto ko rin kanta nya as guitarist). I DID consider speed for being the best. di tuluyang matatangal sakin yan( di na yan ang batayan ko talaga ngayon) the guitarists I admire are still a shedder. Pero di na ko mapapaWOW ng ibang gitarista ngayon na pure shred lang. I considered Kurt Cobain as a good musician, but not as a good guitarist.
Sino ang magaling para sa kin? -Marty Friedman -Paul Gilbert -Satch sila talaga yung pinaka inaadmire ko.
others na gusto ko yung music: andy mckee zack kim santana clapton actually madami pa (mga gitarista ng classic rock)
for rhythm Hetfield Mustain
@wireless_system sorry sir. it wasnt intended to critizise your post.. all the quotations are intended for choki choki.
List of guitarist i admire? too many to mention, but here's some of them (insert guitarist here)
i asked for those na magaling.. hindi yung mga gitaristang ina-admire mo... mukang wala talagang magaling para sayo.. and also it seems only that the shredders are the only ones who you admire. ..
kilala mo ba sina Igor Presnyakov? Andy McKee? Sungha Jung? eh si luismetalkid? HAHAHA eeee.. go-google na yan... i wonder.. sino pa kaya yung nasa etc list? yung mga binanggit ko, magagaling yun para sakin.. ewan ko lang para sayo...
wah. ayoko na. im disobeying the rules here.. tama na OT.
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Post by: angeloesteban14 on May 29, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
@wireless_system sorry sir. it wasnt intended to critizise your post.. all the quotations are intended for choki choki.
@choki chokii asked for those na magaling.. hindi yung mga gitaristang ina-admire mo... mukang wala talagang magaling para sayo.. and also it seems only that the shredders are the only ones who you admire. ..
kilala mo ba sina Igor Presnyakov? Andy McKee? eeee.. go-google na yan... i wonder.. sino pa kaya yung nasa etc list?
wah. ayoko na. im disobeying the rules here.. tama na OT.
choki choki is disobeying Clapton
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Post by: choki choki on May 29, 2010, 01:50:28 PM
hayyyy !! :-D cge bro kanya kanya talagang paniniwala yan.. just like religion never-ending debate.. anyway salamat sa response.. walang samaan ng loob, napaguusapan lang. PEACE :-D
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Post by: albumin on May 29, 2010, 02:12:18 PM
ok sir :-D
ayako rin naman ng kaaway sa forums eh. gudboy ako. :)
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Post by: Roller_Caster on May 29, 2010, 10:12:19 PM
THREAD OF THE DECADE!
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Post by: jocobalb on May 29, 2010, 10:27:51 PM
tama ..
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Post by: jem_adriano on May 29, 2010, 10:58:32 PM
when it comes to technicality and sick riffs...i still go with this guy...
dahil sa kanya gusto kong magka whammy and killswitch. :evil: sorry medyo OT
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Post by: gardo53 on May 31, 2010, 05:25:56 PM
Not pure speed, although it is an advantage. You must be a complete player. Playing both fast and slow music with undeniable emotion makes all the difference in the world... :-)
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Post by: Letour on June 04, 2010, 11:04:47 PM
To use Speed only as a measure of the Best.....
It was a so so movie. Speed 2 is one of the measure of the worst.
:lol:
(Read the whole 11 pages... no one mentioned the movie yet) :-D
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Post by: Roller_Caster on June 04, 2010, 11:28:15 PM
This thread is the "FOREVERMORE THREAD"
but the speedometer measures the speed lol
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Post by: albumin on June 05, 2010, 07:58:45 PM
may nagpaparami ng post...........
sino kaya yun?
nay ku pu! ako pala yun. sige makapagpost nga ng mga walang sense na posts... teka.. pipindutin ko lang yung post button.
ayan..
3...
2..
1.
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Post by: spetsnaz1123 on June 05, 2010, 10:51:35 PM
Kapag track & field, car racing, horse racing, swimming, marathon, bicycle race, at kung anu-ano pang race....speed is the measure of the best. :-D
As for guitar players, i-research nyo kung sino ang No. 1 :evil: sa Top 100 guitar players ng Guitar World magazine.
Oops, nagpaparami lang din po ng post...hihihi
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Post by: clean_tube on June 18, 2010, 01:56:23 PM
okay lang naman kung speed picking yung style mo sa pag lead :)
ang importante nasa lugar yung pag lead mo,
hindi yung tipong.. trip mo lang mag triplets sa part ng kantang to gagawin mo..
swabe dapat :) and if shredding guitar is how you express yourself. go for it :)
wala namang masama kung dun mo talaga na eexpress sarili mo.. kesa naman ipilit mo na wag mag shred, edi hindi mo na express ng totoo ang sarili mo :)
there is no best guitarist :)
there are only good and bad ones :P hahaha
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Post by: william251082 on June 18, 2010, 02:59:55 PM
Kung shredding ang style mo syempre mahalaga yung speed na malinis. That's basically what shredders do. Hindi ka magaling na shredder kung puro melody ka lang, dapat may exhibition din.
I think good music needs contrast, obviously too much of the same thing is BORING.
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Post by: aya_yuson on June 19, 2010, 03:04:58 AM
Kung shredding ang style mo syempre mahalaga yung speed na malinis. That's basically what shredders do. Hindi ka magaling na shredder kung puro melody ka lang, dapat may exhibition din.
I think good music needs contrast, obviously too much of the same thing is BORING.
:-o
Ikaw ba yan, brad?
:-P
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Post by: mustangtony on June 21, 2010, 12:16:33 AM
I am reminded of a quote by Santana.."While it's great to play fast licks, it is more important in the long run to learn beautiful melodies. Otherwise you find yourself being admired by a bunch of guys..and there's no woman in sight."
A long time ago, there were 2 bands considered the best which were at par with one another in terms of followers. One had really fast licks (Ventures) and the other only had good melodies (Shadows). Both had their loyal followers!!!
Therefore speed only cannot be the sole criterion.
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Post by: inzsairis on June 21, 2010, 12:20:53 AM
nadale nanaman ako ng grammar pulis,... iiwasan ko na nga magpost habang nagcacalls... :-)
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Post by: aya_yuson on June 24, 2010, 08:46:17 PM
Mourn the slow death of the English language....
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Post by: dark_7 on June 24, 2010, 09:17:48 PM
here..to stop prolonging the agony kung ano ba talaga.. master na ng speed playing ang nagsabi..check this..watch the full video..
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Post by: gunlak on June 24, 2010, 09:25:32 PM
shot this in a Subway Restaurant located in Atlantic City, NJ.
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Post by: mexophilia on June 26, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
No! Lalu na sa mga parang nilulunod lang ng Delay at Reverb.
Tsaka, maririnig mo naman kung sino yung magaling sa hinde with fast speed runs.
Maririnig mo rin yung controlled speed guitarist sa hinde. Yung mga parang sweep lang ng sweep dahil sa ito ay natural movement na ng fingers nya, pero hanggang ganun lang.
Kaya lang naman nasisira ang mga speed dahil sa mga mayayabang agad mag speed.
May nagturo nga sa akin na try mo i-record yung sarili mo para mas ma-gauge mo sarili mo kung ready ka na.
Pero speed na malinis, controlled, and with the right lines, YES!
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Post by: Gitaristang_Pulpol on June 27, 2010, 04:49:53 PM
think..Eric Clapton
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Post by: punkasspunk on June 27, 2010, 06:00:27 PM
siguro kapag balance yung creativity, technicality and speed... +peace :-D
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Post by: boomboom on July 04, 2010, 04:59:49 PM
I am reminded of a quote by Santana.."While it's great to play fast licks, it is more important in the long run to learn beautiful melodies. Otherwise you find yourself being admired by a bunch of guys..and there's no woman in sight."
A long time ago, there were 2 bands considered the best which were at par with one another in terms of followers. One had really fast licks (Ventures) and the other only had good melodies (Shadows). Both had their loyal followers!!!
Therefore speed only cannot be the sole criterion.
+1, I agree..
Speed is nice but speed without melody is not as entertaining as melody without speed. Melodic playing is an art. :-)
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Post by: Roller_Caster on July 04, 2010, 06:44:42 PM
Thread of the CENTURY!
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Post by: mollenejosh on July 04, 2010, 06:45:36 PM
speed only? no. i think good melody is the measure of the best.
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Post by: Poundcake on December 01, 2011, 12:21:19 AM
I just saw this thread again... LOL!!!
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Post by: Papapuzza on December 01, 2011, 12:45:42 AM
Thanks for the up!
WIN Thread! >:D
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Post by: r_chino18 on December 01, 2011, 08:05:43 AM
Kung shredding ang style mo syempre mahalaga yung speed na malinis. That's basically what shredders do. Hindi ka magaling na shredder kung puro melody ka lang, dapat may exhibition din.
I think good music needs contrast, obviously too much of the same thing is BORING.
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Post by: sulayman44 on December 01, 2011, 11:34:38 AM
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Post by: tiyowoy on December 01, 2011, 03:09:02 PM
Hindi naman marathon race ang guitar playing eh...
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Post by: erniebong on December 01, 2011, 04:01:55 PM
yuna nabuhay ulit to a :)
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Post by: rye715 on December 01, 2011, 04:30:43 PM
My answer : NO
Speed only becomes significant when used properly, in place and in time. This means using it :
1. To add intensity to a section of a song 2. To provide a transition from section to another 3. To imply a progressive movement 4. To emphasize a certain phrase or vamp
There are many other ways but I think these are common.
For example, doing a guitar solo is similar to telling a story. You are conveying a message.
With a solo with pure alternately-picked and arpeggiated 16th notes sections at 200+ BPMs, your solo would sound like a story being said as :
MalmsteenwasbornLarsJohanYngveLannerbäckinStockholm,Sweden,asthethirdchildofamusically-inclinedfamily.MalmsteenwasbornLarsJohanYngveLannerbäckinStockholm,Sweden,asthethirdchildofamusically-inclinedfamilyAt age sevenhesawatelevisionnewsreportonthedeathofJimiHendrix,aneventwhichhadaprofoundimpactonhismusical path.Malmsteen has later statedthatHendrixhadnomusicalimpactonhim.
I do believe that it is good to provide spaces and breathing room to solos, and not to focus on speed alone, especially if you are trying to tell a story through your solo.
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Post by: chifonclo on December 01, 2011, 04:44:35 PM
no not the speed.. hindi dun na memeasure ung galeng.....marameng gitarista puro bilis lng wala namang dateng :-( :-(.. In my opinion its about feelings and timing :-D
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Post by: Leadmaster on December 06, 2011, 03:33:18 AM
no not the speed.. hindi dun na memeasure ung galeng.....marameng gitarista puro bilis lng wala namang dateng :-( :-(.. In my opinion its about feelings and timing :-D
I agree with this.. Di naman sa lahat ng scale lick mo eh puro bilis dapat tama ang accent at tempo mo,, aanin mo ang bilis kung bulol naman ang tunog di nakaka sarap sa tenga ng mga nakikinig.. Para sakin it is the accent, melody, and the tempo(timing) of scale lick or solo.... :mrgreen:
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Post by: officebiker on December 06, 2011, 03:46:06 AM
sometimes
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Post by: chifonclo on December 09, 2011, 09:46:16 PM
I agree with this.. Di naman sa lahat ng scale lick mo eh puro bilis dapat tama ang accent at tempo mo,, aanin mo ang bilis kung bulol naman ang tunog di nakaka sarap sa tenga ng mga nakikinig.. Para sakin it is the accent, melody, and the tempo(timing) of scale lick or solo.... :mrgreen:
salamat bro tama ka at kung san mo ma ipapasok ung feelings ng isang solo kumbaga puede reng me speed it dipends kung feel mo lagyan ng thrill ung solos why not? :)at isa ko pang cinoconsider is yung style at emotion kung feel na feel mas bilib ako hehehe :-D
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Post by: shredisdead31 on December 09, 2011, 10:07:10 PM
Speed with accuracy is important in guitar playing but it's not the sole measure for greatness.... 8-)
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Post by: Amoretti on December 09, 2011, 10:20:18 PM
No :-D
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Post by: vitek on December 09, 2011, 11:15:58 PM
No >:D
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Post by: voidmain on December 16, 2011, 09:48:01 AM
It's alive!!! Again... :-D
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Post by: markezekiel on December 16, 2011, 10:18:08 AM
hell no!
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Post by: heyman on December 16, 2011, 10:51:07 AM
sa marathon oo pero sa gitara naku po.... :mrgreen:
learn to walk before you run
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Post by: yngwie09 on December 16, 2011, 09:03:38 PM
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Post by: lastikman on December 16, 2011, 09:19:03 PM
ako nabubulukan ako sa sarili ko ang bagal ng daliri ko...feeling ko wala na kong chance matutong magshred sa buong buhay ko...awch hanggang slow blues na lang ako or riffs lang ung tipong mabilis lang ung right pero ung left hindi na talaga hehe...pero sabi sakin ng titser ko wala naman daw sa bilis un
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Post by: yngwie09 on December 16, 2011, 09:20:53 PM
ako nabubulukan ako sa sarili ko ang bagal ng daliri ko...feeling ko wala na kong chance matutong magshred sa buong buhay ko...awch hanggang slow blues na lang ako
practice lang sir. kung gugustuhin mangyayari. tiyagaan lang sir. :-D hehe.
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Post by: dark_minister on December 17, 2011, 10:35:28 AM
pero sabi sakin ng titser ko wala naman daw sa bilis un
wala talaga sa bilis... mabilis ka nga, di mo naman alam i-apply ng maayos, eh di wala din... kung bilis ang sukatan sa pagiging magaling, eh hindi ka musician... mas gugustuhin ko pang maging slow pero melodic ang solo at tumatatak sa tenga kaysa mabilis pero puro bilis lang...
just saying... :-D
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Post by: Roy Pigdester on December 17, 2011, 10:46:01 AM
F.uck no.
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Post by: yngwie09 on December 17, 2011, 10:51:34 AM
wala talaga sa bilis... mabilis ka nga, di mo naman alam i-apply ng maayos, eh di wala din... kung bilis ang sukatan sa pagiging magaling, eh hindi ka musician... mas gugustuhin ko pang maging slow pero melodic ang solo at tumatatak sa tenga kaysa mabilis pero puro bilis lang...
just saying... :-D
:wink:
hindi nadadaan sa puro bilis. nasa performance at style yan. hehe. satisfaction guaranteed :wink:
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Post by: dark_minister on December 17, 2011, 10:58:25 AM
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Post by: dextoi on December 17, 2011, 11:46:26 AM
NO...
but speed is useful depending on your style of guitar playing or the song you are playing. Too much of it would sound boring for me. What's important is how the listeners react to what you play. It shows how effective your lines are. Alam naman natin siguro if maganda or boring, hindi ba?
IMHO
- Dex Ter
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Post by: Leadmaster on December 21, 2011, 10:53:45 PM
practice lang sir. kung gugustuhin mangyayari. tiyagaan lang sir. :-D hehe.
Try to watch john petrucci rock dicipline ang gandang lessong mapa beginner or pro.. try to download torrent
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Post by: erniebong on January 06, 2012, 01:28:56 PM
The Best Musicians are the ones who have the best "MUSICAL SENSE" no matter how fast or slow we play ultimately we are only as good as our musical sense. :)
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Post by: sonikyut on January 06, 2012, 01:31:04 PM
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NOPE !!!
Maibalik lang uli.
But seriously, NO!!!
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Post by: Poundcake on February 11, 2013, 11:53:42 AM
The first post rules. :lol:
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Post by: l1qu1dr4g3 on February 11, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
yes and no.
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Post by: throwinshapes on February 11, 2013, 02:14:23 PM
Nah. Look at Shawn Lane. Even though he has all that technique under his belt, he still places greater emphasis on phrasing and groove. And what Guthrie said, "If you have to play something fast, play the good stuff." Not just generic scale runs and such.
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Post by: Poundcake on February 11, 2013, 05:36:36 PM
Nah. Look at Shawn Lane. Even though he has all that technique under his belt, he still places greater emphasis on phrasing and groove. And what Guthrie said, "If you have to play something fast, play the good stuff." Not just generic scale runs and such.
NO.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: juwanfidle09 on February 11, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
para sa akin hindi :)
on na less serious note, depende e. kung nagbayad ka ng 3k para sa unlipops ng 3 hrs, kailangan mo talaga ng bilis para masulit yun.
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Post by: fretboard on February 11, 2013, 06:12:03 PM