True Acoustic Tone

[maxi_musikero]

The whole laminate vs solid issue... well, a really well made laminate guitar can sound better than a shabbily made solid, and what it's all about is sound and playability.

yes this is true...but comparing a really well-made solid with a really well-made laminate, no doubt that the former will beat the latter.  i was stating an "all things being equal" statement.

I figure there's two kinds of guitars really, the lifetime guitars and the others.  If you find one that sounds right and feels right and is built to last, that's worth paying for because it's gonna stay with you for the duration.  Of course this is coming from someone whose bicycle is worth more than his truck, which to me just means I have my priorities straight  .

damn straight. 

we spend for the things that we think are worth spending on.  and those include killer guitars.   

[dayuhan]

I know the jump from 11's to 13's is pretty drastic. (I'll admit, masakit talaga siya sa kamay.. 20-30 mins. lang) Tonewise parang stiff na rin yung tunog para sakin. It's boomy, and I like that.. but it doesn't 'sing' that much for me anymore.
10's & 11's for me sound almost the same (I don't have the best ears). So perhaps 12's would be the just right balance of tone & comfort.

If you want the sound of big strings without the burden on the fingers, one solution is to tune the whole thing down a half step.  The reduced tension compensates for the greater weight and is easier on the fingers and on the instrument.  If you need to play in standard, capo on the first fret and you're good to go.

[luin_theblue]

Hey guys. Nakahanap ako ng isang Charvel 525D NAT (Made in Korea) sa isang bodega.

Kinda looks like that.

One of the plastic pins are broken already. So I'm saving up to 1) replace the whole set (they all seem brittle already anyway), 2) change the plastic nuts and saddles to bone ones, 3) and replace the electronics if they don't work anymore, and 4) change the output jack to one with a strap holder, and 5) repair of electronics (if they don't work)

How much would you guys think my reviving of the guitar would cost?

[dantuts]

How much would you guys think my reviving of the guitar would cost?

basically, your guitar just needs a general setup (intonation, refret (?) ) . and maybe some replacements. but the cost wouldn't be that high given you opt for cheaper alternatives. (plastic pins, a standard set of electronics, bone nut) tataas lang yan pag mahal ang mga ipapalit mo. try to weigh the cost if its worth it to go the "expensive" route.

[borgy]

Hi

What would be the best sounding OM bodied guitar(rosewood)? price range is $1500-2000. Martin has a lot to offer but I am quite hesitant cos of the brand is too much commercialized. Larrivee, they say, offers quality more than the name.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

[GGBR]

Hey guys. Nakahanap ako ng isang Charvel 525D NAT (Made in Korea) sa isang bodega.

Kinda looks like that.

One of the plastic pins are broken already. So I'm saving up to 1) replace the whole set (they all seem brittle already anyway), 2) change the plastic nuts and saddles to bone ones, 3) and replace the electronics if they don't work anymore, and 4) change the output jack to one with a strap holder, and 5) repair of electronics (if they don't work)

How much would you guys think my reviving of the guitar would cost?

The most critical of concerns that I would have for such an acquisition would be the neck angle. This can make (break) your 'find'.

Take a straight edge (at least 24") & sit it on the fretboard running along (between strings 3-4) centerline. Without lifting, move it towards the bridge till the forward edge comes into contact with the bridge. The bottom edge should match (level) the top of the bridge. Very critical! Otherwise you're in for a neck reset. All other improvements are easily achievable without having to greatly affect your acquisition cost.

[GGBR]

Hi

What would be the best sounding OM bodied guitar(rosewood)? price range is $1500-2000. Martin has a lot to offer but I am quite hesitant cos of the brand is too much commercialized. Larrivee, they say, offers quality more than the name.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

What do you mean by "commercialized"?   Both the brands you mentioned are "commercialized", getting what you meant as being readily available in most guitar stores, would this be correct? Or would your question be - based on customer feedback, which "commercially" produced brand would have the most "sound vs cost effectiveness"? Ganun ba yun? Medyo very subjective yan.

[borgy]

Oh ok. Sorry it was quite muddy. Anyway let me rephrase... For a budget of 1500-2000, which OM brand will give you the best deal?

[dayuhan]

Oh ok. Sorry it was quite muddy. Anyway let me rephrase... For a budget of 1500-2000, which OM brand will give you the best deal?

Martin and Taylor both make very nice smaller bodied guitars, but there's no doubt that you pay a substantial name premium in both cases.

I've never played a Larrivee, but heard good things; they are also not cheap and the name carries some weight, though it's less well known than Martin or Taylor.

I think Guild offers huge value; "twice the guitar for half the money" may be exaggerated but not by much.  While they're mostly aimed at bigger instruments, you might want to look at the F47R.  It's Grand Orchestra, not OM, but you're talking a size difference of .625 inches across the lower bout and virtually identical across the waist.  Very nice guitars and in your price range.

If you're shopping in the US, definitely look at what's available second hand, some really exceptional deals come up.

[farseer]

Oh ok. Sorry it was quite muddy. Anyway let me rephrase... For a budget of 1500-2000, which OM brand will give you the best deal?

pare, since nasa canada ka naman... just try all the om guitars w/in your budget... personally i like martin 00028vs... hanap ka ng used nasa mga 2k yan...the gibson robert johnson  model is also a very nice... approximating the size of the martin om or 000.. may larrivee ka na di ba??? om03 model??? taylors are also nice, modern sounding, balance... rosewood talaga gusto mo??? maganda maple models ng taylor, ibang iba dun sa gibby mo

[borgy]

pare, since nasa canada ka naman... just try all the om guitars w/in your budget... personally i like martin 00028vs... hanap ka ng used nasa mga 2k yan...the gibson robert johnson  model is also a very nice... approximating the size of the martin om or 000.. may larrivee ka na di ba??? om03 model??? taylors are also nice, modern sounding, balance... rosewood talaga gusto mo??? maganda maple models ng taylor, ibang iba dun sa gibby mo

My Larrivee 0m3 is gone. It was very good for its 600 price.Sulit. I tried the OM bodied Martins especially the OM21 special and Om28. Halos kasing tunog lang ng OM3 or OM5 rosewood ng larrivee. That's why I am quite hesitant to get a Martin. I agree that Taylors are nice with maple wood pero mahal. I am still eyeing on an OM28v na 2nd hand.

At DAYUHAN:

I also heard nice reviews about Guild. I just dont see them frequently in the 2nd hand market.  Thanks for the advise.

[farseer]

collings ka nalang
dont forget to try the 12th fret models from martin and larrivee... panalo... kung ako 00028vs talaga

the newer guilds that i have tried were stiff... matigas at tukod tumunog...

[maxi_musikero]

Oh ok. Sorry it was quite muddy. Anyway let me rephrase... For a budget of 1500-2000, which OM brand will give you the best deal?

price-wise, mas mahal ang Martins compared to Larrivees.  tone-wise, for my ears and fingers mas superior ang Martin. 

i got to try out several Martins and Larrivees when i went to Tom Lee HK.  iba talaga tumunog ang Martin.  i tried the OM and OOO bodies kasi yun ang gusto ko talaga.  maganda din tumunog ang Larrivee and considering the price, it's a worthy catch.  compared to the Taylors and Gibsons i've tried there, mas nagustuhan ko ang Larrivee.  spruce-rosewood combo Larrivee yata yung nasubukan ko.

the problem with what happened to me was...i went straight to the Martin room and spent a good 1 hour just playing there.  kaya when i shifted to Taylor, natigasan na ako sa tunog nya.  when i shifted to a Gibson, parang bitin ang sustain nya.  but when i tried the Larrivee, it still sounded pleasant to the ear. 

[dantuts]

does froggybottom guitar fit his budget?

[GGBR]

does froggybottom guitar fit his budget?

he he..sana the ebay may have a solution to that...haven't encountered a froggy bottom on ebay...

[farseer]

froggys are expensive... 3k up ang used prices unless may sira

[borgy]

Eto sana ang gas-ending OM para sakin. Kung may pera lang ako.......

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/msg/762113300.html

[borgy]

My new acoustic setup. AER amp is just wicked.
Yamaha APX7 and Gibson BKE

[maxi_musikero]

hehehe. yep!

pare, dumating na yung K&K mo? 

[maxi_musikero]

My new acoustic setup. AER amp is just wicked.
Yamaha APX7 and Gibson BKE

i was saving up to get a Compact60 before...pero i got another amp instead.   

how much did it cost you?

[borgy]

i was saving up to get a Compact60 before...pero i got another amp instead.  

how much did it cost you?

680 CAD ( x 43 petot) lang. Brand new pa. Meron nyan dati sa JB music . I really wanted it  but it cost 65k. The person who sold that also owns the Collings OM3 Brazilian Rosewood. He told me he wanted to learn guitar that's why he bought it. Darn!! What a freaking fortunate guy!! He starts with a 7k CAD guitar just to strum some basic chords?
I got to try his Collings also. Badtrip. The best OM I have ever tried. it was ridiculously light but tone was very defined. Ayoko bitawan It just sings. Better than the Brazilian Rosewood Clapton guitar.

eto sya.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/msg/762113300.html

[maxi_musikero]

680 CAD ( x 43 petot) lang. Brand new pa. Meron nyan dati sa JB music . I really wanted it  but it cost 65k. The person who sold that also owns the Collings OM3 Brazilian Rosewood. He told me he wanted to learn guitar that's why he bought it. Darn!! What a freaking fortunate guy!! He starts with a 7k CAD guitar just to strum some basic chords?
I got to try his Collings also. Badtrip. The best OM I have ever tried. it was ridiculously light but tone was very defined. Ayoko bitawan It just sings. Better than the Brazilian Rosewood Clapton guitar.

eto sya.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/msg/762113300.html

great score!  i hope you're enjoying it now with your acoustics. 

that's the thing with those who can afford.  well..we gotta give it to them though. 

[borgy]

I am very amazed by the sound the compact 60 can create. I am using the Gibson BKE and it sounded so nice with it. I still have to try magnetic pickups. Di ko alam kung same quality ng piezo.

[af_villaruel]

pare, dumating na yung K&K mo? 

ah not yet. dis week! yahoo!

[maxi_musikero]

my package arrived at long last...i just hope they will work for my guitar.