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Title: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: latooots on May 31, 2010, 07:07:07 PM
I've been wandering the guitar central forums for quite some time now. So far ito magiging first post ko.

I've been playing acoustic guitar as a hobby for 4 years now mula nung 4th yr HS. I'm an intermediate guitar player, knowing a bit of scales, doing some solos here and there.
Recently I thought of buying an electric guitar to broaden my horizons, sa acoustic guitar ko kasi ngayon limited lang ang pagplay ko, like hindi ako makatugtog ng mabibilis na licks na naiisip ko dahil stiff masyado, at limited ung range dahil hanggang 19 frets lang.

My father and I went to the pier last saturday, at hindi na pala yun katulad ng naririnig ko dati na madaming 2nd hand guitar na maayos pa. Two shops na lang nandun, so we went to raon to find some cheap guitars.


So what do you guys recommend? May nakita akong Strat knock-offs na 3.5k. Tapos meron din namang mga 5k LP itsura na ala floyd rose ung trems, not sure about sa quality dahil baguhan ako sa anything electric guitar.

My budget is 6k. What store do you recommend at anung guitar? Ung ilang shop sa raon medyo isnab pa naman ung mga clerks lalo na sa aming noob sa pagbili ng ganun.

I prefer playing a bit of rock, and some blues. Kapag sinabi bang humbuckers eh kahit ung mumurahin na LP/humbuckers ang itsura eh humbuckers na din? Most of all, what should I look for when buying my first electric guitar? Gusto ng father ko strat na itsura. I want something that looks like a LP pero I think I'd go for the strat look na lang din. Ano ba ang tinitignan dun?

Sorry sa madaming questions, also not sure kung sa tamang section ko napost ito. I hope you guys could enlighten me a bit.

Thanks a lot! :3

Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: renz13 on May 31, 2010, 07:28:08 PM
try mo sa guitar cllassifieds dito sa pm maraming mura at magandang guitar dun :wink:
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: Fret_warrior on May 31, 2010, 07:28:26 PM
1. dahil sa baguhan ka, wag ka kukuha na naka floyd, masakit kasi sa ulo un, mahirap mag tono, ung fixed bridge ang kunin mo.

2. dahil 6k lang ang budget mo, try mo sa JB music or salonga music, maraming cheap guitar na makikita run. so far sx and fernando palang cheap na guitar na mairerecomenda ko sayo. (a dunno sa iba :-D).

3. pasyal ka sa classified guitar section, maraming nagbebenta ng guitar dun na mura lang.

hope this will help!!
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: free2rock on May 31, 2010, 07:33:29 PM
My suggestion is a second hand Squier or Strat copy... decent build and easily upgradable. You can just replace some parts for better playability in the future when you're better.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: latooots on May 31, 2010, 08:02:21 PM
Thanks sa mga replies.

so either a strat copy or a 2nd hand squier.

kung LP kaya ang kunin ko, anung brand/maker ang maganda gumawa?

sabi ni ser gunslinger13 kung blues/rock daw tutugtugin ko eh mas maganda daw LP.

kahit mumurahin ba may difference sa tone ang strat copy sa LP copy?

nobody answered kung anung details ang kelangan tignan, un bang mga maliliit na bagay na makakaapekto sa tone, usual na unang part na nasisira, where to look for defects etc.

lol, mumurahing guitar lng hanap ko pero gnun na agad mga tanong ko, pasensya na. :P

Tanks a lot guys, naeenlighten ako with your help.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: renz13 on May 31, 2010, 08:03:34 PM
Thanks sa mga replies.

so either a strat copy or a 2nd hand squier.

kung LP kaya ang kunin ko, anung brand/maker ang maganda gumawa?

sabi ni ser gunslinger13 kung blues/rock daw tutugtugin ko eh mas maganda daw LP.

kahit mumurahin ba may difference sa tone ang strat copy sa LP copy?

nobody answered kung anung details ang kelangan tignan, un bang mga maliliit na bagay na makakaapekto sa tone, usual na unang part na nasisira, where to look for defects etc.

lol, mumurahing guitar lng hanap ko pero gnun na agad mga tanong ko, pasensya na. :P

Tanks a lot guys, naeenlighten ako with your help.
yung type nung wood malaking effect yun :-)
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: Roller_Caster on May 31, 2010, 08:22:12 PM



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Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: heavensgraveyard on May 31, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
bro type of wood..tama si sir renz..at isa pa yung neck brod..check mo kung maayos at di twisted at yunf mga fret wires nya kung di pa pudpod..check mo din yung mga pick ups nya..madame mura na strat na mejo maayos ang tunog specially for beginners ng electric..pasyal ka classified guitars bro madame mura dun at maayos tignan mo lang mabuti para di ka maloko o mascam..and last bro..tignan mo kung hindi grounded para naman di ka disappointed kahit 6k ang budget it's still a money na pinaghirapan bro..good luck on finding your first axe..rock on brother :evil:
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: renz13 on May 31, 2010, 08:38:40 PM
bro type of wood..tama si sir renz..at isa pa yung neck brod..check mo kung maayos at di twisted at yunf mga fret wires nya kung di pa pudpod..check mo din yung mga pick ups nya..madame mura na strat na mejo maayos ang tunog specially for beginners ng electric..pasyal ka classified guitars bro madame mura dun at maayos tignan mo lang mabuti para di ka maloko o mascam..and last bro..tignan mo kung hindi grounded para naman di ka disappointed kahit 6k ang budget it's still a money na pinaghirapan bro..good luck on finding your first axe..rock on brother :evil:
wag na po sir .....parang magkakapatid tayo dito bro pwede na :lol:

kung beginner for sure wala ka pang amp?.....try mo rin kung may pasok na mga package dyan sa budget mo na yan :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: ninmei on May 31, 2010, 08:41:09 PM
Try an Ibanez Gio. Tingen ko suitable yun sayo, If not try fernando copies na guitar. Mga strat copies nila. Make sure to find a good catch. Karamihan kasi hindi okay.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: latooots on May 31, 2010, 08:49:19 PM
Not sure pero sabi ni pops sa raon na lang daw muna bilhin ung first axe, para at least daw pwede mareklamo kung sakaling may factory defects. Ung iba kasing nagbebeta mga classifieds eh hindi nila napapansin na may defects or ung quite a few eh scammer naman, not saying all pero a very few.

Sa amp naman, hindi kasali yun sa 6k. Meron na kasing nakita. Although I'll probably be playing it more with a PC/laptop gear emulation software. Wala pa kasing pera pambili ng pedals. It's a decent temporary fix for getting effects. Heck it even works great on my acoustic.

Sa wood tol, pano ko malalaman kung ayos ung wood? I mean anung wood usually ung maganda, at anong wood ung usual na nasa cheap elec guitars? Siguro naman alam nung nagbebenta kung saan gawa ung binebenta nila hehe.

Yang Ibanez Gio po ba na yan eh swak sa 6k? Meron po ba sa raon? Kung karamihan ng Fernando ay hindi okay I guess i'll steer clear from them, pero what should i expect, eh cheap guitars lang nmn cla :P

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: e-guitar on May 31, 2010, 09:09:50 PM
Sir, i recommend na bili ka na lang ng Fernando Unique Series Strat na may Humbucker Bridge!!! Mga 4.5k siguro meron ka na nun, sa JB Music.

Ok naman yung Fernando Unique Series eh, Maple neck, Alder Body at yung nagsstay in tune naman sila, kailangan lang talaga ng proper setup para magamit to the fullest potential yung guitar.

Meron ring Fernando yung Friend ko kaso hindi unique series 3k yata kuha niya sa JB Music din. OK din sila pero para sa akin mas gusto ko yung unique series ng fernando.

By the Way, Magaganda rin Reviews ng mga ka-philmusic forum natin sa Fernando Guitars, Read at this Thread:
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,89321.0.html

Hope This Helps
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: RAPFM on May 31, 2010, 09:17:09 PM
For 6k you could actually get an Ibanez here in classifieds.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: metalheadz on May 31, 2010, 09:26:57 PM
my first beginner guitar was a Fernando, not because it was cheap, but because it was good for beginners :-)
(yeah i was on a tight budget too hahaha)
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: lenpopz on May 31, 2010, 09:27:29 PM
Greg Bennetts' of Lazer are good sounding guitars. Pasok na pasok sa budget mo yung LP copy nila. :-)
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: metalheadz on May 31, 2010, 09:28:40 PM
Greg Bennetts' of Lazer are good sounding guitars. Pasok na pasok sa budget mo yung LP copy nila. :-)
especially the tele's :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: ninmei on May 31, 2010, 09:33:09 PM
You can buy a second hand Ibanez Gio sa 6k, check the classified! And yeah +1 dun sa Greg bennett na electric guitar. they are quite promising for cheap guitars. :D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: lenpopz on May 31, 2010, 09:33:50 PM
especially the tele's :-D

and also the Royale's and Ultramatic's.. :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: metalheadz on May 31, 2010, 09:34:48 PM
and also the Royale's and Ultramatic's.. :-D
ow yeah hahaha forgot about those :-D
im gassing for a tele keya tele tele tele :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: les_paul_rhay on May 31, 2010, 09:54:23 PM
try RJ guitar sir  :wink:
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: markv on May 31, 2010, 09:59:24 PM
Squier + vox pathfinder

\m/
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: shadowsilk on May 31, 2010, 10:39:27 PM
Fernando and Greb Bennett's guitars are pretty good for beginners.  :wink:

If you have a friend who has a lot of knowledge in electric guitars, it would be nice if you could bring him/her along when you buy your guitar.  :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: free2rock on May 31, 2010, 10:41:36 PM
Isn't it going to be hard  looking for a decent LP for 6k?
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: shadowsilk on May 31, 2010, 10:43:01 PM
Isn't it going to be hard  looking for a decent LP for 6k?
Oonga eh. Usually yung nasa price range na ganun mga strat eh.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: eros00 on May 31, 2010, 10:48:35 PM
Try Washburn's or Greg Bennett's dude...pag tumaas pa budget Ibanez Gio's...So far kasi 8.6k pinakamurang Ibby gio na nakita ko...
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: gunlak on May 31, 2010, 10:50:17 PM
as much as possible, stay away from those Raon/Sta. Mesa electric guitars.. sooner or later you'll realize that you've just wasted your money.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: meatankchouji on May 31, 2010, 10:52:12 PM
Tol, you can check out ELECTROSUSHI.sulit.com.ph then click mo yung "CLASSIFIEDS o CLASSIFIED ADS" ata.

may mga strat copies diyan, na although china made, mukhang okay naman. para mas sigurado, magarrange ka ng appointment kay sir Darwin, pwede naman mag test ng guitars eh, hanap ka ng swak sa budget mo.

Or sa Classifieds dito sa PM mismo. may mga Squier Bullet diyan na pasok sa budget mo.

Okay ang Strat talaga sa playability, swabe siya. magaan, sakto lang ang neck para sa kahit anong level na player. :)
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: justine3563 on May 31, 2010, 10:59:34 PM
may alma ako nagbebenta ng brand new GRX20 :roll:

or get a GAX :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: ninmei on June 01, 2010, 12:26:46 AM
as much as possible, stay away from those Raon/Sta. Mesa electric guitars.. sooner or later you'll realize that you've just wasted your money.

+1

couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: justine3563 on June 01, 2010, 07:00:13 AM
as much as possible, stay away from those Raon/Sta. Mesa electric guitars.. sooner or later you'll realize that you've just wasted your money.

+1

but if you know how to..............makakajackpot ka sa raon!
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: acidtest on June 01, 2010, 08:24:27 AM
sx na tele sa jb. pasok yun sa budget at prefered music mo. nasubukan ko pareho yung fernando lp at sx tele at mas gusto ko tunog ng tele. pero ako lang yun. by the way, i have more expensive version of those two models so im not only getting my opinion from those two cheaper brands...  :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: latooots on June 01, 2010, 03:18:42 PM
Thanks a lot sa mga nagcomment! You guys really helped in enlightening me to a decision.

About Fernando guitars, usually saan makakabili ng gitara nila. Sa Sta. Ana, Manila area ako, so saan pinakamalapit na mga pwedeng music stores? sorry wala talaga kasi akong alam sa locations ng mga music stores. Most of my friends kasi wala naman talagang hilig sa ganitong music. Madami din na dito ko lang nakukuha mga info about locations ng guitar store stuff.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: justine3563 on June 01, 2010, 03:26:15 PM
Thanks a lot sa mga nagcomment! You guys really helped in enlightening me to a decision.

About Fernando guitars, usually saan makakabili ng gitara nila. Sa Sta. Ana, Manila area ako, so saan pinakamalapit na mga pwedeng music stores? sorry wala talaga kasi akong alam sa locations ng mga music stores. Most of my friends kasi wala naman talagang hilig sa ganitong music. Madami din na dito ko lang nakukuha mga info about locations ng guitar store stuff.

JB music ang distributor nito bro...puntahan mo na yung pinaka malapit dyan! :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: latooots on June 01, 2010, 03:38:24 PM
un nga problema eh, d ko alam pinakamalapit dito.

i guess i'll just ask around. naalala ko may kaklase nga pala akong may banda, baka makatulong din siya.

thanks man! \m/
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: meatankchouji on June 01, 2010, 04:13:25 PM
hmm. Mall of Asia? o nalalayuan ka pa?  try mo search over the net kung san mga locations ng JB stores. :)
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: m1k3 on June 01, 2010, 04:27:57 PM
i wouldn't recommend you getting a secondhand electric guitar. SX or Fernando would be better. go to JB now :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: Polygon on June 01, 2010, 06:27:31 PM
Kung Strat or Tele copies, maganda ang SX guitars. Beginner priced, pero hindi lang pang beginner ang performance. :-D
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: ytse_neil on June 01, 2010, 06:41:22 PM
Kung LP hanap mo try mo nalang mag RJ guitar or Fernando..
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: albumin on June 01, 2010, 08:16:08 PM
i agree with the other replies..

either fernando, sx or greg benett.. [or ibanez  :evil: suprestrats]

fernando
- wood : 3.5/5
- hardware : 3/5
- craftsmanship : 3.5/5 (mejo limited ang finishes)

sx
- wood : 4/5
- hardware : 3/5
- craftsmanship: 3/5 (disappointed ako sa headstock... IMO.. walang kokontra)

greg bennett
- wood :4/5
- hardware : 4/5 (grover tuners agad.. + maganda din quality nung bridge etc..)
- craftsmanship : 4/5 (nice finishes + good looking headstock)

buying in the classifieds can be an option but you should research first about the guitar you wanted... mahirap kasi in your case, baka makabili ka ng maraming hidden issues...
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: durianjuice on June 01, 2010, 08:42:33 PM
heard a lot of guys disappointed with SX, though i have never tried one
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: bryanarzaga on June 01, 2010, 09:16:30 PM
i agree with the other replies..

either fernando, sx or greg benett.. [or ibanez  :evil: suprestrats]

fernando
- wood : 3.5/5
- hardware : 3/5
- craftsmanship : 3.5/5 (mejo limited ang finishes)

sx
- wood : 4/5
- hardware : 3/5
- craftsmanship: 3/5 (disappointed ako sa headstock... IMO.. walang kokontra)

greg bennett
- wood :4/5
- hardware : 4/5 (grover tuners agad.. + maganda din quality nung bridge etc..)
- craftsmanship : 4/5 (nice finishes + good looking headstock)

buying in the classifieds can be an option but you should research first about the guitar you wanted... mahirap kasi in your case, baka makabili ka ng maraming hidden issues...

i know if we get to the technicality of the word craftsmanship it does include 'design' but these are cheap guitars and cheap guitars go design is either hit or miss..but everyone is entitled to an opinion..
Quote
fernando
- craftsmanship : 3.5/5 (mejo limited ang finishes)
sx
- craftsmanship: 3/5 (disappointed ako sa headstock... IMO.. walang kokontra)

..but my opinion is..for a cheap guitar(maybe true in pinas sx and some fernando), im not sure its ok to nitpick it too much..especially design of a CHEAP guitar


@TS you should be looking for one that is playable and sounds decent for its price..
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: cacophony on June 01, 2010, 09:26:18 PM
Go for SX and upgrade it from time-to-time.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: latooots on June 01, 2010, 09:28:32 PM
It was down a few days ago but it seems that the jbmusic store website is back online. Browsing it eh mukhang ang pinakamalapit sa amin na branch ay sa SM megamall.

Hindi gaano kaimportante sa akin ang looks, I just want an electric guitar to practice with. Basta working at walang kung anumang defects ok na. Pero siyempre this being my first electric guitar, gusto ko din na medyo hawig sa legendary models.

With all these recommendations, I guess I'm looking at Fernando/SX/GregBennett choices. Lahat ba ng brands na yan meron ang JB? How much ang LP/strat copies ng bawat brand?

Thanks a lot sa mga nagreply. I really appreciate it!

I'll try to go to one of their stores this week, or maybe contact them through e-mail, wala kasi kaming landline haha. Salamat sa lahat ng info. \m/
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: r_chino18 on June 01, 2010, 09:36:41 PM
Fernando/ Sx = JBmusic

Greg Bennett = Lazer

 :-)
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: bryanarzaga on June 01, 2010, 11:00:20 PM
Go for SX and upgrade it from time-to-time.

also @TS if you're planning to do the above,..the math and see how much you would be spending on upgrades, if it is close to a really good one. then its not worth it..especially if all the parts your looking for is not available locally..
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: heavensgraveyard on June 01, 2010, 11:21:48 PM
all who posted on this thread are right my friend..be wise in buying..pretend like you know enough too so you won't be misled..ok?remember all the things that our co-forumite told you..go get your first axe now brother..! :evil:
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: ninmei on June 01, 2010, 11:34:02 PM
I bet Strat ang makukuha mong guitar TS. :D Go and get yer 1st axe.
Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: spetsnaz1123 on June 08, 2010, 09:40:22 PM
Try mo yamaha gigmaker, pagipunan mo na lang ng kaunti di ka magsisisi. Kumpleto may amp, tuner, strings, picks, softcase. Yung EG112 (gigmaker) ko ang ganda ng tunog kaya balak kong ipa-mod (wilkinson tremolo, graphtech nut at locking tuners).

Title: Re: Recommended first cheap electric guitar?
Post by: Roller_Caster on June 08, 2010, 10:30:33 PM
Fernando/ Sx = JBmusic

Greg Bennett = Lazer

 :-)

dagdagan ko pa

Squier=Perfect Pitch