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Offline grasyaps

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« Reply #150 on: July 02, 2010, 02:39:55 PM »


aluminum din ba yung posts? if not, then walang difference sa stock posts. might as well keep it as it is. hassle pa yung if the original whole left my the stock anchors are bigger. you have to fill in pa. if smaller naman, you have to route pa. hassle!

i dont think it would make a noticeable difference if the post were aluminum or not. the stoptail is a different story though.

then again, you can always taper that extra length on the screws with a little 'lagari' action. :D

anyways i have a question. how would you know if US or metric ung replacement na kinuha mo, ung magfifit sa measurements ng guitara mo? was it because it was MIC so it has the metric as opposed to had it been US made, it utilized US specd hardware?

i might need new poles so i wanna change the whole stop tail assembly altogether with an aluminum set. thanks.
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« Reply #151 on: July 02, 2010, 06:34:21 PM »
astig talaga to sir. ang ganda. :)

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« Reply #152 on: July 02, 2010, 07:11:50 PM »
cool thread... cant wait for ze result... i remember when i also upgraded my stock epi lp custom's hardware, pots, & pups too last year...

from this:



to this:



oh i can taste the butter!... goodluck!... :wink:
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« Reply #153 on: July 02, 2010, 07:19:56 PM »
sir saan niyo po naibili ung mga parts para sa modification?

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« Reply #154 on: July 02, 2010, 09:36:26 PM »


aluminum din ba yung posts? if not, then walang difference sa stock posts. might as well keep it as it is. hassle pa yung if the original whole left my the stock anchors are bigger. you have to fill in pa. if smaller naman, you have to route pa. hassle!

i dont think it would make a noticeable difference if the post were aluminum or not. the stoptail is a different story though.

then again, you can always taper that extra length on the screws with a little 'lagari' action. :D

anyways i have a question. how would you know if US or metric ung replacement na kinuha mo, ung magfifit sa measurements ng guitara mo? was it because it was MIC so it has the metric as opposed to had it been US made, it utilized US specd hardware?

i might need new poles so i wanna change the whole stop tail assembly altogether with an aluminum set. thanks.


i want to butt in.. sorry, i can't help it..

usually mga MIK at MIC use metric measurements and those MIA ones have a US spec'd or standard measure.. about the parts, nakalagay dapat kung ano yung measurement nila.. they say if it's Standard or Metric.. pag standard, mga pang US na replacements yun, then pag Metric, you get the idea..  :-)

pag hindi nakasulat kung metric or standard, medyo magduda ka na muna.. pero maybe you'll get some hints sa details niya kung standard or metric.. kunwari nasa description na "for import sized etc etc..", then most likely, metric yun.. something like that..

so ayun.. research din talaga mabuti lalo na kung oorderin pa abroad, mahirap magkamali..


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« Reply #155 on: July 04, 2010, 10:11:04 AM »


aluminum din ba yung posts? if not, then walang difference sa stock posts. might as well keep it as it is. hassle pa yung if the original whole left my the stock anchors are bigger. you have to fill in pa. if smaller naman, you have to route pa. hassle!

i dont think it would make a noticeable difference if the post were aluminum or not. the stoptail is a different story though.

then again, you can always taper that extra length on the screws with a little 'lagari' action. :D


@grasyaps:
There was actually no problem with fitting the GOTOH TAILPIECE STUDS. It fits perfectly in the STOCK ANCHORS/BUSHINGS for the tailpiece. What Rmansh I think was referring to was the problem I had where the GOTOH BRIDGE STUD/POST can not be tightened all the way down the STOCK ANCHOR/BUSHING due to an offset in the post thread, so I had to use the STOCK BRIDGE STUD/POST with the STOCK ANCHOR/BUSHINGS.

Right now the only stock hardware left on the body of the guitar were the BRIDGE STUD/POST AND BUSHING and the TAILPIECE ANCHOR/BUSHING. For me, this is just fine. The important thing was replacing the bridge and the the tailpiece with Gotoh parts. The stock bridge studs fits perfectly with the Gotoh Bridge anyway so I'm not killing the coupling of vibrations from the bridge to the body by using the stock bridge studs.


anyways i have a question. how would you know if US or metric ung replacement na kinuha mo, ung magfifit sa measurements ng guitara mo? was it because it was MIC so it has the metric as opposed to had it been US made, it utilized US specd hardware?

i might need new poles so i wanna change the whole stop tail assembly altogether with an aluminum set. thanks.

I'm not sure for other brands or guitars but between a Gibson and Epiphone Les Pauls here's what I know.

For the bridge: saddle radius, string spacing, post spacing are the same.
  Gibson LP - Standard posts (also referred to as small posts), M4 x 7 threads.
  Epiphone LP - Studs with bushing (also referred to as large posts with anchor), M8 x 1.25 thread.

So if you're buying a replacement bridge for an Epiphone for example, you want one with large posts or studs and M8 (metric) thread.

For the tailpiece: radius, string spacing, post spacing are the same.
  Gibson LP - USA Thread or 5/16"-24 thread
  Epiphone LP - M8 x 1.25 thread

Hope this helps...

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« Reply #156 on: July 04, 2010, 03:40:54 PM »
cool thread... cant wait for ze result... i remember when i also upgraded my stock epi lp custom's hardware, pots, & pups too last year...

from this:



to this:



oh i can taste the butter!... goodluck!... :wink:

@blackmanika:
wow! nice custom there. mind sharing the mods that you did?

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« Reply #157 on: July 04, 2010, 03:43:08 PM »
sir saan niyo po naibili ung mga parts para sa modification?

i ordered them from bossingBoss, you can see his monthly ordering/shipment in the classified.

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« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2010, 09:31:23 PM »
@blackmanika:
wow! nice custom there. mind sharing the mods that you did?

just the hardware and pups... nothing too special...  :-D the usual emg81/85, 25k pots, tom bridge, saddle, tuners all from gold to black... i also changed the knobs before to gold, but returned the stock black para all black finish...

all stock:



pups:



tuners:



gold knobs (but later changed to black again)



overall finish:



i'll take a pic once i installed my black DR strings for total blackness...  :-) goodluck with the proj man, the step by step pics are very neat!... really cool thread!... :wink:
« Last Edit: July 04, 2010, 09:36:39 PM by blackmanika »
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« Reply #159 on: July 04, 2010, 11:59:57 PM »
just the hardware and pups... nothing too special...  :-D the usual emg81/85, 25k pots, tom bridge, saddle, tuners all from gold to black... i also changed the knobs before to gold, but returned the stock black para all black finish...

overall finish:



i'll take a pic once i installed my black DR strings for total blackness...  :-) goodluck with the proj man, the step by step pics are very neat!... really cool thread!... :wink:

thanks man!
you must really like black. i must say with all the mods that you did it turned from a tuxedo LP to a custom LP with an attitude. cheers!

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« Reply #160 on: July 06, 2010, 03:47:48 PM »
thanks man!
you must really like black. i must say with all the mods that you did it turned from a tuxedo LP to a custom LP with an attitude. cheers!

appreciate man... yeah :evil:!...

now, we're all psyched to see your axe... goodluck!... :wink:
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« Reply #161 on: July 06, 2010, 06:49:13 PM »
@blackmanika

your axe looks like prophecy ex.  :evil:
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« Reply #162 on: July 06, 2010, 07:09:14 PM »
Will some of these mods work for an Epi flying v?  :-D
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« Reply #163 on: July 06, 2010, 08:31:14 PM »
From this...



to this...



I upgraded the pickups to a Seymour Dancan '59 in the neck position and a Seymour Duncan Distortion in the bridge. For that ESP Eclipse look, I removed the pickguard and the toggle switch ring then changed the cream pickup rings to black. (I also changed the cream plastic plates at the back of the guitar to black of course!  :-D).

to finally this...

I've attached a black toggle switch ring and a black pickguard for that LP custom look. I've always wanted an LP custom but the I don't like the block inlays, so this is definitely what I'm looking for!  :-)



She's my one and only 6 string!  8-)
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« Reply #164 on: July 06, 2010, 08:57:35 PM »
@blackmanika

your axe looks like prophecy ex.  :evil:
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thanks rmansh :wink:... yeah, i figure instead of gassing for the p-ex, might as well be resourceful, right?... ehehe...  :-D
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« Reply #165 on: July 06, 2010, 09:52:04 PM »
I've always wanted an LP custom but the I don't like the block inlays, so this is definitely what I'm looking for!  :-)

there is the Epiphone Les Paul Custom Classic. It's basically a Les Paul custom slash the block inlays and gold pickup covers. so you've got trapezoidal inlays, the open coil humbuckers with gold pole pieces, and all the goodies that come along with an LP custom. multiple bindings. etc :D
oh and I think it doesn't have grover kidneystones. i think it has the gold keystone tuners :)
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« Reply #166 on: July 06, 2010, 10:00:00 PM »
From this...


to this...



I upgraded the pickups to a Seymour Dancan '59 in the neck position and a Seymour Duncan Distortion in the bridge. For that ESP Eclipse look, I removed the pickguard and the toggle switch ring then changed the cream pickup rings to black. (I also changed the cream plastic plates at the back of the guitar to black of course!  :-D).

to finally this...

I've attached a black toggle switch ring and a black pickguard for that LP custom look. I've always wanted an LP custom but the I don't like the block inlays, so this is definitely what I'm looking for!  :-)

She's my one and only 6 string!  8-)

nice axe you got there man!
how's the SD Distortion?

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« Reply #167 on: July 06, 2010, 10:11:44 PM »
thanks rmansh :wink:... yeah, i figure instead of gassing for the p-ex, might as well be resourceful, right?... ehehe...  :-D
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« Reply #168 on: July 06, 2010, 10:35:20 PM »
Will some of these mods work for an Epi flying v?  :-D

Yes, actually most of it.

In the electronics, the wiring would be different since you'd have a common tone knob for both neck and bridge. But you can still decide to go with 50's wiring if you desire. You may want to go for 500K short shaft audio pots and 0.022uF PIO caps. Again, that would be your personal choice, you may also want to try different pot and cap values but the key is to use short shaft pots. Pickups are humbuckers and there are tons of choices. For the electronics alone, the possibilities are endless. Choose the combination that suits your needs and your rig.

Here's a 50's style wiring diagram for a flying V.



If you're planning to change the bridge, look for a direct replacement for string-through-body type of bridge that matches the post spacing, saddle radius, and string spacing on your current bridge. You're lucky there's no tailpiece... lesser cash out. lol.

Changing the stock plastic nuts I think is also a very good investment in terms of tuning stability. Plastic nuts are just notorious for binding the strings

There goes my 2 cents.  :-D

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« Reply #169 on: July 17, 2010, 03:34:04 AM »
d pa ata tapos ang tele-serye a. hahaha. tpos mo na ba sir? pics naman ng final looks nya. :)
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« Reply #170 on: July 17, 2010, 02:32:56 PM »
onga. tagal na natin nagaabang. hehe. :0

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« Reply #171 on: July 20, 2010, 12:30:14 PM »
d pa ata tapos ang tele-serye a. hahaha. tpos mo na ba sir? pics naman ng final looks nya. :)

onga. tagal na natin nagaabang. hehe. :0

Wow! It's been a while since I've updated this thread. I know... my bad! I just didn't have the strength to resist playing this guitar everyday after putting the strings on. LOL. Anyway, looks like this thread is coming to an end.

So, just a recap... all of the hardware and electronics have been upgraded at this point. What's left to do is to put on the strings and set her up. I decided to put on DR Pure Blues 10's.



It's a hand made pure nickel strings with a rounded core as opposed to the normal nickel wound with hex core. I've been using D'Addarios before trying the DR Pure blues and the difference is like night and day. Most noticeable difference is the lesser tension on the DR Pure blues. I can do easier bends and vibratos. Tonewise, the DR Pure blues has a rather warmer and more articulate tone than the D'Addarios. It's actually hard to explain in words. At first I hated it but then when I listened to it more, tweaked the volume and tone knobs, eq'd my amp and pedals and I ended up loving it. LOL. But for the record, I'd still use D'Addarios on my ibanez RG. The DR Pure Blues just won't have that aggressive bite for heavier music.

By the way, before putting the strings on. I applied some nut sauce on the bone nut to help lubricate the slots. Hope this will help in making the tunig stable.



Now here are the money shots...



With the pickguard off..



Some close up shots...







Close up on the electronics and wiring...





The smoothed out neck...

« Last Edit: July 20, 2010, 12:33:36 PM by nalu »

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« Reply #172 on: July 20, 2010, 01:20:37 PM »
Nice. Lapit na. Hopefully there will be sound clips  :-D

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« Reply #173 on: July 20, 2010, 04:45:38 PM »
lapit na matapos =D
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« Reply #174 on: July 20, 2010, 07:36:18 PM »
Bravo! Bravo!  :-)
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