ok, here i go again on my own ( to the tune of whitesnake.... sorry bad joke
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eniway,
if it looked and sounded like "napikon ako", well, quite the contrary.... i just didn't want to go "there anymore "... wherever "there" was suppose to be... ..
bcoz i felt like it wasn't a discussion anymore but "a he said, she said conversation"...
i have nothing against you or anybody else voicing out your opinions and theirs. my only point is to try taking steps to effect those changes that need to be made, if you truly believe those changes are going to make this industry a better one. "better" is so subjective a term, and we all have varying ideas on how to make this a "better" industry. i never said you're not worthy of voicing out opinions -- on the contrary, you can voice out as many opinions as you deem necessary -- but from one musician to another, i'm also inviting you to take steps in improving this industry's situation -- for instance, if you want better original songs, then make better original songs, and prove the record companies wrong.
and Marvin is right, everything is subjective... but the discussion should be objective with a subjective kind of view and not the other way around...
and marvin is right again that we should take steps towards improving the industry and i thought that was the direction the thread was moving towards to....
instead the thread is turning into a "you dont know anything and i know better" spit out... (which for the record, "i never claim i knew any better, i was merely pointing things out, read "devils advocate part below...)
and in all fairness to Marvin, i dont know him (personally or musically for that matter) and he doesn't know me either... Marvin is inside the industry and im not.. his views are totally different than mine, and i understood that from the get go... like marvin said its a subjective thing .... and its cool like that..
i definitely can see where he's coming from but i cant say for sure i will fully understand until i am faced with the same stuff he is talking about... i would be lying if i say, yeah i totally understand what marvin is talking about ....
if it hasn't been clear yet -- the point i've been trying to drive at in my previous posts is this -- if you truly believe in your opinions, then let me invite you to make those changes, or be an instrument in effecting that specific change that needs to be done. look around you. listen around you. there are way too many opinions on different things -- on how to run this country, on who should win the elections, etc. -- and the topic being discussed in this thread -- on how to deal with the situation on the seeming lack of original material that are being released by our local record companies. and yet, there are too few of those who actually do something.
if i had offended you, magz, and others, well, i'd like to apologize. i also didn't mean to turn this discussion into a heated argument. nor did i mean to imply that you didn't have the right to voice our your opinions. you have as much right as everybody else in this forum.
Marvin, i totally agree with you... maybe i was wrong to think that you are implying to people (including me) to "put out or shut up" while you're sitting on your "high chair" typing these things .... then again it sure sounded that way....
and just to clarify where I'm (the newbie) is coming from...
I am in a band called sodapop suicide... we are an electronic/alternative/poprock band from new jersey u.s.a. writing/composing/recording OPM music... you can check out the link on myspace on my signature...
and yes we only write original songs....
also we are part of a group of youngs bands spearheaded by Ted Reyes
www.tedreyes.com, a great producer/composer who penned the hit "Bye Bye" na for Rivermaya (if anyone here doesnt know yet, Rivermaya broke up)..... we are under soulworks records
www.soulworksrecords.com who only produces OPM from fil-am (filipino american bands) ... check out
www.poptimesmagazine.com we are trying to continue the tradition of great OPM... check out the original releases from soulworks records... bands like Bleud, The Kwagos, The happy Analogues have release their own cd of original OPM...
and to clarify more things
- all of the artists i mentioned have day jobs and doesn't rely on their music for money
- all the artist i mentioned funded their own cd (do it yourself guerrilla style)
- we are trying to promote OPM here in the USA and has collaborated with The Speaks, Glenn Jacinto on shows, Parokya ni Edgar, Bamboo, Rivermaya, Barbie, etc etc...
so I guess what i'm trying to say is, yes, we here in the USA are doing OUR part to revive OPM and support the creativity/originality of OPM...
I didn't really want to do this and it sounds like i'm just promoting myself and my friends...
and I dont want to sound like " i'm typing on my high chair" as well...
so i guess what I'm trying to say is "we are doing our fair share of helping the industry".. and we are not making any money out of this but instead we are using our own money out of love for OPM....
and it saddens us to see only "unoriginal" music dominating the industry today...
and did I mention we only buy Original OPM CD's...
but how can you be enticed to buy what is in the industry today... (thank god for my current fave, radioactive sago.... )
- and somebody pls help me with something here... i want to know how much percent of the total cd sales of OPM comes from overseas...
??
eniway back to the topic...
With all due respect, now that you have mentioned about your right to show your opinion because this is a public forum - please be civil enough also to accept views contrary to your own. I have followed this thread and I believe Marvin was just defending his points also. Di ba ikaw mismo ang nagsabi sa first reply mo that you were going to take the stand of a 'DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"? Being one means you are taking a completely opposite view of a person's set of opinions and PURPOSELY invites him to defend his stand against yours. Unfortunately, Marvin has proven to be one of the most articulate artists who continues to bring relevant issues to the ears of the industry.
exactly, i did take the "devils advocate" stand.... i made that very clear from the get go so no one misunderstands where my inquiries are from... I was looking for answers myself and doesnt mind contradictions... but such inquiries are met with seemingly "At that time" "personal attacks" instead....
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this industry has survived no thanks to people who really have nothing else to do but voice out an opinion, and merely observe afterwards
i know now that they were not "personal attacks" per se but with statements like the one above without ever knowing where the other side is coming from.. it seems all too personal at that time...
but now that everyone here knows where I'm coming from, i have no regrets on whatever i said....
because i know I'm doing "my part", "my steps", to help the industry....
now, I'm really done....
Kudos to Kedysanchez...