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Offline asamantejr

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crell CA20
« on: January 30, 2012, 12:42:41 AM »
mga sir tanong lang po... magkano po ba ang crell CA20 ngayon? at ano po ang magandang 18" sub ang magandang patunugin nyan?  baguhan lang po ako, pang set up lng po sa live band at ibang purpose....  salamat po... :-\

Offline Audiomaster

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 10:06:37 AM »
Sir buy the old version don't buy the new version or you will be Sory :-(

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2012, 10:14:10 AM »
Sir buy the old version don't buy the new version or you will be Sory :-(

+1 B0z  :)

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2012, 10:29:32 AM »
Sir buy the old version don't buy the new version or you will be Sory :-(

+1 like me first batch ng new version ayon kabooom

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 12:02:47 PM »
wala na yatang old stock ngaun ng ca20... yong ca25 ko 2009 ko pa nabili at ok siguro yon kya untill now alive & kicking pa din pati mga speaker ko ayos pa din... nakakatakot n plang bumili ngaun ng bagong labas n crell hehe ,, mag soundstandard nalang bka mas ok pa..


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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 01:12:53 PM »
@ mants

before kay xstatic ang dami namin nabenta na soundstandard ca18 para sa old version na c18 650el 650 watts.  maganda ang matching ng dalawa.

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 04:12:43 PM »
@ mants

before kay xstatic ang dami namin nabenta na soundstandard ca18 para sa old version na c18 650el 650 watts.  maganda ang matching ng dalawa.

hanggang ngayon ba gnamit pa rin ni Mon xtatic yong mga soundstandard nya? di ba nag shift na sya sa mga powered rcf.

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 07:33:03 PM »
mga sir tanong lang po... magkano po ba ang crell CA20 ngayon? at ano po ang magandang 18" sub ang magandang patunugin nyan?  baguhan lang po ako, pang set up lng po sa live band at ibang purpose....  salamat po... :-\
,42,000 boz ca20 ngaun sa raon,, 600 watts rms or  1000watts rms na speaker katamtaman lang ,, kya  nga lang dina maganda reviews nitong  crell ngaun so its up to you kung gust mo talaga ito,, ito pa ang link ng old topic ng crell CA20 Vs. Soundstandard CA20   review mo boz.......               http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=133817.0
« Last Edit: January 30, 2012, 08:18:20 PM by mants »

Offline mikelsohgud

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 08:01:27 PM »
mga sir panu ba malaman thru visual and etc kng Old or new version ang Ca-20.. ??  :?

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 08:40:26 PM »
mga sir panu ba malaman thru visual and etc kng Old or new version ang Ca-20.. ??  :?
oo nga paano nga ba  :),,,, ito nga pala yong pix ng CA25 ko nabili ko ito 2009 pa so old version ito,so yong mga bagong labas ngaun n Ca25 ano din kya ang pinagkaiba nila dito sa old version,,                                                                                                               
« Last Edit: January 30, 2012, 08:45:32 PM by mants »

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 10:14:01 PM »
Sir sa appearance walang pagkaiba sa loob daw may binago ang factory sa china. Sir Wala na raw ang mga lumang model puro bago na libre smoke machine :-D
« Last Edit: January 30, 2012, 10:21:16 PM by Audiomaster »

Offline mikelsohgud

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2012, 10:22:31 PM »
wla na rin pala Old model... anu naging problema sa New version nya???
incase na pangit nga yung New version, hnd na pala advisable bumili ng crell nguan...
anu nlng kaya mganda na pang sub ngaun..??

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2012, 10:26:34 PM »
mga sir salamat po sa mga reply. balak ko p naman po sana bumili this friday ng crell, 41k po pinaka mababa na price na napagtanungan ko. yung soundstandard po ba ok lang? nasa magkano po kaya yun CA20? :)

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2012, 11:32:52 PM »
sir last oct. nagtanong ako sa raygin sa raon yong  Soundstandard ca20 nila nsa 38,700 net n yon,, iwan ko lng ngaun kung ganon pa rin kc almost 4 months ndin ang lumipas.....saka may napag sabi sa akin n mas maganda daw itong soundstandard ksi 3 steps n sya, di katulad ng crell n 2 steps lang..at dko rin nman gaanong naintindihan kung ano ba pagkaiba ng 2 steps at 3 steps ,,
2 step ibig sabihin 1 pre amp bago sa main amp kapag 3 step 2 pre amp bago sa main amp mas malimis tumunog kapag 2 step lang less power wattage sa 3 step mas malakas pero madumi tumunog at sirain hindi stable

Offline barracks01

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2012, 11:52:16 PM »
Sir sa appearance walang pagkaiba sa loob daw may binago ang factory sa china. Sir Wala na raw ang mga lumang model puro bago na libre smoke machine :-D

ang pinagtataka ko bakit ang mga new version lang ang naging smoke machine?

1. ano ba ang mga components sa old version vs new version?

2. Ano ang brand ng trannies ng old version vs new version?

3. ano ang binago sa mga circuit design?

 :-(  :-(
« Last Edit: January 30, 2012, 11:56:57 PM by barracks01 »

Offline lighttech

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2012, 11:58:33 PM »
2 step ibig sabihin 1 pre amp bago sa main amp kapag 3 step 2 pre amp bago sa main amp mas malimis tumunog kapag 2 step lang less power wattage sa 3 step mas malakas pero madumi tumunog at sirain hindi stable

naku, wag po magkalat ng technical mis-information.. halatang hearsay po ang info ninyo..
ang 3-step has something to do with the number of power supply tiers/rails..

« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 12:04:07 AM by lighttech »

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 12:03:19 AM »
ang pinagtataka ko bakit ang mga new version lang ang naging smoke machine?

1. ano ba ang mga components sa old version vs new version?

2. Ano ang brand ng trannies ng old version vs new version?

3. ano ang binago sa mga circuit design?

 :-(  :-(


nasa gumagamit pa rin. may mga nakikita pa naman akong crell na bago na hindi umuusok. as usual, sabi nga nila sa english "Your mileage may vary.."  i personally have bought one unit last november, di naman umuusok. :)

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2012, 08:50:34 AM »
Sir buy the old version don't buy the new version or you will be Sory :-(
why take risk in buying CRELL if there is a quality problem? so you will not regret it, go for other good quality amps in the market.

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2012, 09:00:09 AM »
wala na yatang old stock ngaun ng ca20... yong ca25 ko 2009 ko pa nabili at ok siguro yon kya untill now alive & kicking pa din pati mga speaker ko ayos pa din... nakakatakot n plang bumili ngaun ng bagong labas n crell hehe ,, mag soundstandard nalang bka mas ok pa..
soundstard might be a good choice. this brand has been in the world market for more than 10 year. and  i think the price in the Philippines is cheap and more reliable than crell.

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2012, 10:18:12 AM »
BTS na yTa b0z ang distri ng S0und Standard  :)

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 10:19:31 AM »
naku, wag po magkalat ng technical mis-information.. halatang hearsay po ang info ninyo..
ang 3-step has something to do with the number of power supply tiers/rails..

Sir can you explain it further

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 11:07:23 AM »
Lahat na gamit pag-mali ang paggamit ay Masisira.

Offline lighttech

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 11:59:58 AM »
Sir can you explain it further

The number of steps in a class-H amplifier refers to the number of levels its power supply has.  It has nothing to do with the number of pre-amp stages as you were referring to.  The more the number of steps, the better the efficiency but with the trade-off  of  more distortion (crossing between the steps introduces  distortion, though can be minimized).  Why do class-H have power supply steps? To improve efficiency, and to enable high output power levels.  High output levels calls for high power supply rails.  Current high quality power transistors do not have sufficient Vceo ratings for those rails and having power supply rail steps enable these transistors to be used safely in high output power power amps.

You clearly have no idea on the technical matter you were talking on.  Another case of trash-talking the competition?  You don't have to do that, just lower prices and we will consider your brand on our next purchase.. :)

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 12:47:15 PM »
BTS na yTa b0z ang distri ng S0und Standard  :)

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Re: crell CA20
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2012, 01:32:31 PM »
The number of steps in a class-H amplifier refers to the number of levels its power supply has.  It has nothing to do with the number of pre-amp stages as you were referring to.  The more the number of steps, the better the efficiency but with the trade-off  of  more distortion (crossing between the steps introduces  distortion, though can be minimized).  Why do class-H have power supply steps? To improve efficiency, and to enable high output power levels.  High output levels calls for high power supply rails.  Current high quality power transistors do not have sufficient Vceo ratings for those rails and having power supply rail steps enable these transistors to be used safely in high output power power amps.

You clearly have no idea on the technical matter you were talking on.  Another case of trash-talking the competition?  You don't have to do that, just lower prices and we will consider your brand on our next purchase.. :)
Am not selling anything ??? Am just tell the truth crell has a very poor quality .
« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 01:34:50 PM by Audiomaster »