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The Musician Forums => Music Technology & Pro Audio => Topic started by: 123kidd on June 14, 2013, 03:06:08 PM
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Good day po sa lahat!
Baka po pwede kayong mag share ng mga technique nyo sa recording, lalo na sa mixing and mastering, Mics, Vst's na ginagamit nyo, How loud po kayo mag mix, mag master?
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while mixing monitor in low levels, kasi kapag masyadong malakas naeexcite tayo or yug tenga, iba kasi ang dating kapag mahina ang level. . . and hindi pa ganun maiistress ang hearing mo so you mix longer, excessive exposure sa loud audio pwedeng makabingi for a short period of time or worst permanently.
i suggest na imix mo muna ang mga instruments, ihuli mo ang vocals, kasi dapat ang vocals malinaw sa mix, parang in your face ang dating ng audio mo. . .
try mo isearch sa youtube "mix with the masters" featured dyan ang mga sikat na mixing engineers
i'm a fan of Chris Lord-Alge
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waiting for more info. :)
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my pre-mixing steps:
1. study about target curves http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/technical-advanced-car-audio-discussion/131029-target-curve-comparison.html
2. buy yourself a measurement mic like the behringer ecm8000 for room equalization
3. use rta on your room and monitors. download rew or truerta then run pink noise on your monitors while creating an eq setting that will match your chosen target curve.
4. add eq on your master channel and apply the eq curve during your rta session
5. mix your song. now you have a good approximation that your mixes will come close to a finished sound.
6. before exporting the stereo mixdown, disable the target curve eq on the master channel. tweak mix with headphones
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Thank you mga sir! Noted!
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I posted here because my question seems relevant too..haha my DAW is reaper and I have a problem when it comes to rendering my track, decreased masyado yung volume pag rendered to mp3, pero pag playback lang ok naman, any plug ins or eq or compression or etc, needed in my mix? any help would do. thanks!! sorry for the very sloppy playing :eek: https://soundcloud.com/bodom666/draft-sample-full-noob-mix (https://soundcloud.com/bodom666/draft-sample-full-noob-mix)
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Recording is GIGO. Garbage in, garbage out.
Crap source = crap recording.
Mixing is just enhancement.
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as they say "you can't polish a turd", I'll bear that in mind sir, thanks! I'll focus more on my playing na lang.. :eek: pero what if let's say na smooth na ang pag record (minimal flaws or no mistakes at all), then yung problem is the same w/c is decreased volume after rendered?
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Recording is GIGO. Garbage in, garbage out.
Crap source = crap recording.
Mixing is just enhancement.
It also depends on the engineers kung paano nya pasasarapin ang crap na ito.. mind you minsan magugulat tayo sa mga wlang kwentang kanta na masarap pakinggan. technologies and engineer has limit though kung talagang basurang basura e walang ng magagawa. Each has his own taste.
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It also depends on the engineers kung paano nya pasasarapin ang crap na ito.. mind you minsan magugulat tayo sa mga wlang kwentang kanta na masarap pakinggan. technologies and engineer has limit though kung talagang basurang basura e walang ng magagawa. Each has his own taste.
I think what technology did to recording nowadays is how it lent itself to LOWERING the bar of performance. Back in the day, you would not have that luxury of doing multiple layering (unless you are Brian May or Enya) and it was not acceptable to be a tad flat or a tad sharp in singing. It had to be perfect, or near perfect.
Aside from enhancing lackluster performance, today's technology made recording PORTABLE. Guitarists can record on their laptop. Arrangers don't need a full orchestra for a score. Things like that.
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For monitoring mixes, I use speakers (2 kinds), headphones, and headphones used if they're small speakers (put on the table instead of over my ears). The last one is especially useful for checking levels, while at the same time resting my ears.
I also check mixes in mono, to check for levels and muddiness.
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Anyone here has tips how to make a soft vocal sit on an aggressive background?
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Anyone here has tips how to make a soft vocal sit on an aggressive background?
Multiband Compressor perhaps?
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Anyone here has tips how to make a soft vocal sit on an aggressive background?
Let me guess... Babymetal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QbAXXXOJF8)?
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Concentrate on voice frequencies, then a tad of compression and limiting. Remove or reduce voice frequencies from the instrumental bed to make room for the voice. Balance accordingly.
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This is just me.
If it has drums and/or percs, I make sure those sound great first. Open sounding, lots of overtones, just the right verb. I make my home records around the sound of the drums. Maybe because most of the really bad sounding records I've heard had really bad drums.
Admittedly I program my drums because I can't afford to record live, but you still have to shape the sound depending on the track. Really helpful though coz they sound pretty nice out of the box.
I mix the bass to that, then LCR the hell out of every other instrument. If one section of the song starts to sound lopsided (because of LCR), I fill the anemic channel with another instrument with some other lines. After that I bring in the vocals and I decide whether I'd like that to sit back in the mix or roast like a marshmallow over a campfire. Not a fan of really up front vocals that really shine (I don't know why though).
I'm not good at using reverbs, so I only use it on drums/percs, vocals, synths, and acoustic instruments. Electric guitars and basses are definitely dry. Cut the frequencies I don't like using EQ. If I have to boost something, it's usually coz I have crap sounding gear, so I use that BBE Sonic Maximizer thing instead of EQ. I like timed delays for vocals (half note or dotted eighth).
Oh, and don't forget to record background noise!