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Offline jzaina16

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good day mga kapatid! i need help on what type of cymbals to buy! 2nd time ko pa lang to bumili and di ko talaga alam kung ano ang bibilhin ko between PAISTE 101 Brass and PAISTE 201 Bronze Standard Set! 9k lng din kc budget for the crash,ride & hi-hats! ano kaya ung maganda sa dalawa? kahit ano lng ung trip ko bsta kung baga - it does the work! n may magamit ako! ung cymbals ko ngayon ay set ng Planet Z! or ok din ba ung PAISTE PST3 ung set din? nakita ko kc sa net na almost ka-price lng ng mga PAISTE Standard sets.... totoo ba un?

n ung SABIAN na PRO SONIC SET(hihat,crash,ride), mga 9k din ba un? n ok din ba? n san ako pwede bumili ng mga to?

MALAKING tulong talaga to sa kin mga sir! di lng sa akin lahat cguro d2 sa amin sa ZAMBOANGA! i need to decide bcoz i have to go to Manila just to buy these! salamat....

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Offline makinao

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 05:19:47 PM »
Kung 9k ang budget mo, imbes na Sabian/Zildjian/Paiste/Meinl set, subukan mo ang individual Stagg SH o DH series. Made in China B20 cast type cymbals ito, parang A. Zildjian/AA Sabian. At dahil hindi set, pwede kang mamili ng gusto mong tunog at size. I have a couple of China's, and the 8" DH mini-China is da bomb, super mura pa!

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2009, 10:45:44 PM »
I agree somewhat with maknao. Instead of brass Paistes/Zildjians/Sabians, consider alternatives. Ang 101 and PST3 ay brass din. They sound better than the Planet Z's - pero not by much.

Ayun nga, you could try Stagg. 9k might get you hats and a ride, or hats and a crash. Ang advantage dito, since pupunta ka namang Manila, you could try out the cymbals at their stores mismo -- even if you ain't buying. :-)

If Stagg isn't for you, try mo maghanap sa Classifieds ng second-hands. Kahit aim for Sabian B8's and others - malaking difference na yun sa Planet Z.

As for Sabian Prosonix - this used to be an intermediate line ata. Pero discontinued na sya years ago pa. Siguro Sabian XS20 na ang pumalit sa line na 'to.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 07:29:56 PM »
dud, bakit hindi ka magstagg? tutal 9k lang din tapos yung stagg magaganda rin yung tunog niya.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 10:39:37 PM »
mga tol kelangan ko ng set na sana! kaya ba ung 9k for a ride,crash and hats? hanggang jan na lng talaga kasi eh, gustuhin ko mn talaga na maganda ang makuha, pero wala talaga sa budget!... salamat sa replies! if ever na hindi talaga kaya, ok na ba ung kukuha ako ng B8 or ung mga PAISTE 101 or 201 or PST3? kay diba parang below 9k ung prices nila? salamat!


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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 10:44:47 PM »
kung hindi na talaga kaya. mag b8 ka na lang.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 11:42:40 PM »
Seconded. Mag Sabian B8 ka na lang. Kasi -- naka Planet Z ka ngayon. The 101's or PST3's are brass din, so parang di ka nagupgrade. For 9-10k, baka makakuha ka ng B8 set - pero second hand yun.

Ay ay!! I just remembered something.
Clearance sale ang JB ngayon sa old stocks ng Zildjian Cymbals.



I suggest tumawag ka agad ng branch ng JB, then inquire mo kung meron pa sila nung Zildjian Scimitar Bronze Pre-packed. I suppose 14" Hats, 16" Crash, at 20" Ride yun - all for Php8,379. Not bad.

Yung Scimitar, discontinued na yan, pero ka-line yan ng current ZBT - although I think mas maganda yung lumang Scimitar sa current na ZBT's. B8 Sheet Bronze yan. Nagkakaubusan ng Cymbals na 'to, so I suggest you call now. Ask mo na rin kung 4-pc set talaga yung cymbals.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009, 12:12:04 AM »
mga tol kelangan ko ng set na sana! kaya ba ung 9k for a ride,crash and hats? hanggang jan na lng talaga kasi eh, gustuhin ko mn talaga na maganda ang makuha, pero wala talaga sa budget!... salamat sa replies! if ever na hindi talaga kaya, ok na ba ung kukuha ako ng B8 or ung mga PAISTE 101 or 201 or PST3? kay diba parang below 9k ung prices nila? salamat!
pag dating sa starter packs, mas trip ko yung tunog ng paiste 201 (narinig ko lang sa website dati) at meinl classics (gamit ko dati. ganda nung ride.) kumpara sa sabian b8 (nagamit ko sa studio).

mas pang rock kasi tunog nung 2. yung paiste 201, sa raon ko lang nakita yun sa store katabi ng SPL, ewan ko lang kung meron sa audiophile. nakalista lang kasi sa website pero nung tumawag ako dati wala na daw. kaya tawag ka nalang muna.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2009, 12:18:33 AM by metalmuhlisha »
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009, 12:21:00 AM »
Sa site ko lang rin narinig yung Meinl Classics - and I liked the sound din haha. Parang "poor man's A Zildjian" yung dating sakin. Sadly, ang mamahal ng Meinl locally.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2009, 12:45:07 AM »
san kaya ako pwede mamili ng Zildjian na Scimitar? anong branch ng JB? may pinsan kasi ako sa manila, ipapakuha ko na sa kanya kung, sure un bro na ayos ung tunog? pwede na talaga un sa budget ko! salamat!

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 01:12:04 AM »
Oo bro, sa Scimitar ako nabuhay haha. I have hats and the ride. The hats are OK. The ride, I love.XD Yung crash... walang experience haha.

Anyway, eto head office ng JB.
Tel No. (632) 638-4732

Inquire mo kung may stocks pa ng Scimitar, and i-clarify mo kung hats, ride, and crash talaga yung laman. Kanina kasi nagiinquire ako ng 50%-off Cymbals nila. Since clearance items, minsan hinahanap pa kung saang branch naidala. Give 'em a ring. Accomodating naman ang most ng JB Staff sa paghanap ng stocks.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009, 01:13:10 AM »
Sa site ko lang rin narinig yung Meinl Classics - and I liked the sound din haha. Parang "poor man's A Zildjian" yung dating sakin. Sadly, ang mamahal ng Meinl locally.
indeed. nabili ko yung sakin 2nd hand kaya mura, kay sir zig. nanghihinayang parin akong naibenta ko, should've kept them for nostalgia or as auxilliary cymbals (2nd hat and ride for fun/home use).
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 01:23:09 AM »
Oo bro, sa Scimitar ako nabuhay haha. I have hats and the ride. The hats are OK. The ride, I love.XD Yung crash... walang experience haha.


i'm currently using scimitar bronze rock set. minana ko pa yun sa tropa ko na minana niya sa tito niya. siguro may 20yrs. old na yun. tibay no? haha.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 01:38:00 AM »
Absolutely. Hands down ako sa tibay. Yung mga ZBT ng mga ibang kilala ko, dented, cracked, and keyholed na. Yung Scimitar ko (which I bough 2nd hand kay sir suspendead dito sa PM mismo!... three years ago na ata?) abusong-abuso, naka 50+ gigs na, yet buhay na buhay parin.XD

Kahit I've moved on to other lines, baka di ko na ibenta to.:lol:
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 04:19:19 AM »
oo solid din yon, may nagamit ako dati sa gig sa may magnet katip yng scimitar nila na ride ganda nung tunog, yn ata kasi yng mga sinaunang line

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2009, 02:21:03 PM »
san din kaya pwedeng mghanap ng 2nd hand na B8? if ever! di ko pa kc natawagan ung sa scimitar! pero tingin nyo di ba un mauubos? salamat sa replies.... paki rank naman to: Paiste B8, 101,201, Zildjian scimitar or ano pa ba! sorry wala talagang alam....

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2009, 02:33:13 PM »
oks lang yun bro. b8 is a product of sabian. ang pagpilian mu na lang b8 at scimitar if ever may stocks. pabayaan mu na yung mga brass. ok! di ka na magsisisi dun kung 9k ang budget mu. at siguradong pangmatagalan na yan.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2009, 07:01:39 PM »
Bro, check out the Classifieds section. Sayang, may nagbenta ng B8 set (14" hats, 16" crash, 20" ride) for 10k flat a few days ago. Mint condition pa halos based sa pics. Marami-raming B8's naman dyan, so tingin-tingin ka lang. Then kontakin mo agad yung seller. :-)

As for rankings...

Crash and hi-hats: B8 > Scimitar > 201 > 101 > Planet Z and Solar

Ride: Scimitar > B8 > 201 > 101 > Planet Z and Solar
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2009, 10:25:14 PM »
san ung classifieds na cnasabi nyo guys? san ko makikita? bakit tol ung b8/201/101 ba is magkano ung bago? and saan ung cgurado meron nito? anong branch nang anong store? pasensya na mga tol wala talagang akong alam sa mga bilihan ng mga ganyan! salamat ulit sa mga advise!

maramang salamat talaga! pero basta ok na yang mga choices ano?

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2009, 11:08:32 PM »
Dito rin sa PhilMusic forum yang Classifieds bro. :-) Here's the link.

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/board,169.0.html

Um, ang Sabian B8, sa Yupangco/Yamaha/Perfect Pitch.
Php 15,995 ang brand new nyan.

Ang Paiste 201, sa Audiophile Components.
Php 15,995 din ang brand new nyan haha.
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2009, 10:18:31 PM »
mga tol may ngbebenta sa kin na B8 set for 9k, pero mejo aged na, a few years old na daw! ok pa kaya un ung sound? and ano ang mga dapat kong icheck aside from dents and cracks? good deal na ba? salamat...

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2009, 10:21:46 PM »
mga tol may ngbebenta sa kin na B8 set for 9k, pero mejo aged na, a few years old na daw! ok pa kaya un ung sound? and ano ang mga dapat kong icheck aside from dents and cracks? good deal na ba? salamat...

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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2009, 10:45:12 PM »
Dents, Cracks (lalo yung hairline na kahit ilang millemetres sa edge - delikado yan!), and keyholes (dapat bilog yung hole - not ellipse, not oblong).

Yun lang. Presence ng logos, preference mo na yan. Nalilinis naman ang cymbals eh. :-D
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2009, 10:45:49 PM »
logos? hehe. bayaan mu na kahit wala yun. as long as walang dent, keyhole, cracks(kahit hairline cracks). gud deal na yan sa 9k kung hindi mo makikita sa cymbals na yun yung mga sinabi ko.  :wink:
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Re: CHEAP CYMBALS SET!!!
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2009, 02:35:46 PM »
The last set of Zildjian Scimitar cymbals is on our Cebu branch, call them (032)232-1432.