Author Topic: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread (Read 151427 times)

jckazs · « **Reply #350 on:** October 10, 2009, 01:35:00 AM »

Puede din ata. kaya lang baka hindi as effective ng actual lemon. ok siguro yung juice kung gusto mo talaga ilubog yung cymbal

@sjon014 -- pano ok yung effect sir? nagpatina ba o nalinis yung surface?

sjon014 · « **Reply #351 on:** October 10, 2009, 01:53:47 AM »

@jckazs: I didn't use salt by the way. Hindi nag-Patina. Natanggal yung stick marks and finger prints - something Windex failed to do. I won't say na-polish, but then again, traditional finish yung mga nalinis ko.

alesana05 · « **Reply #352 on:** October 13, 2009, 02:53:43 PM »

depende sa type ng cymbal siguro yan,kasi nung ginamitan ko ng calamansi ung Planet Z crashride sa church tanggal agad ung dumi.

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #353 on:** October 17, 2009, 01:37:06 PM »

Hello mga sir! I just want to clarify the effect of this metal polish on cymbals? I bought kasi a Sabian Xs20 Crash Cymbal from a someone here sa forums. When I inspected it, faded na yung logo niya, it was the only one with a blurry logo sa mga sinesell niya. Ang akala ko dahil sa kalumaan, but when I texted him once I got home, to my horror he said he had been using GLO, the metal polisher on this cymbal! Sa mukha nung logo, mukhang matagal-tagal narin niyang ginagamit yung GLO, I tried researching about its effects, but some seem to say that it's alright but some say it can cause adverse effects. I'm a bit confused right now so I'd like to ask for help. Ang pagkakaalam ko kasi masama ang kahit anong metal polisher sa cymbals dahil ninipis siya. Any comments mga sir? Thanks in advance.

carl20 · « **Reply #354 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:12:08 PM »

I have a similar incident before, I used to have an 18 proj crash cymbal and Im maintaining it by using GLO polish, first the results are ok, I always have a very shinny cymbal every gig, after some months in continuously polishing with it, the crash became very thin and uneven, well I did not blame it that time to the polish Im using, maybe its just the beating everytime I hit the crash, I continued the polishing every now and then and noticed that some of the particles of the cymbal had been polished out bit by bit by the said polishing solution, until it came to a point that my crash gave in and had a very huge crack. I noticed the crack was so thin and looked very fragile, maybe the cymbal could not take it anymore and just gave in.

I got another set of cymbals K session crash and a K dark ride, this time Im leaving them it as it is. hehehe!

intake · « **Reply #355 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:21:17 PM »

sir carl20...how thin does it look now? do you mind sharing some pictures? if you dont mind... naiintriga ako dito
and bakit siya gumagamit ng GLO eh kung may cymbal cleaner naman?

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #356 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:32:09 PM »

yung binili ko sa kanya, I use it sa practice and sa gig, okay naman, very bright sounding and wala pa namang bad sound. Pero, natatakot parin ako sa long term effects nung GLO.

sir carl, gaano po katagal bago nagcrack?

carl20 · « **Reply #357 on:** October 17, 2009, 02:39:41 PM »

mga bossing...

I used GLO for almost 3mos. after the crack surfaced, unfortunately I dont have the pictures anymore..

bro kung pwede ko lang ibalik ang kahapon sana cymbal cleaner na lang ginamit ko hehehe! cheesy! and maybe minsan minsan ko lang sya lilinisin minsan habang lumuluma itsura nya mas masarap ang tunog ng cymbal eh hehehe!

vincher · « **Reply #358 on:** October 17, 2009, 06:56:01 PM »

from what i know. may metal particles na nakamix sa GLO, so parang nabubuff sya. stay away from GLO for cymbals. better use baking soda

suspendead · « **Reply #359 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:06:33 PM »

GLO Metal Polish has an abrasive component on it which makes metal shinny but in the long run it makes the metal thinner. The abrasive compound in GLO even remove the chrome on other objects like shower knobs, cymbal stands,etc.

Reminder: Never ever use GLO on cymbals. If money is not an object then by all means, use it but if you are the type of person that saves money with blood, sweat and tears just to buy a cymbal or any drum equipment then take good care of them. For goodness sake, stay away from GLO.

Just my advise, hope it helps...

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #360 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:11:42 PM »

Grabe, cleaned my cymbals today with the usual baking soda treatment, now this is how to clean a cymbal

Haay, badtrip naman talaga, just thinking about how he used GLO on this cymbal kind of makes me feel betrayed, para bang feeling ko nalugi ako. I texted him many times on how long he used it on the cymbal, but only got one reply, he said that it's okay because the cymbal still sounds good. Kitang-kita na iniiwasan yung subject.

suspendead · « **Reply #361 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:17:16 PM »

Just for my curiousity, di ko pakasi natry to eh but what is the process on cleaning a cymbal using baking soda? Im used to just using a piece of cloth everytime im done playing eh.

By the way,I have this neighbor who uses WD40 in cleaning his cymbals, can anybody enlighten us if this is ok or not. Thanks...

pmack · « **Reply #362 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:33:19 PM »

i have a friend that uses DW40 on his cymbals too.
pero not to clean, but to protect it from dirt, or so he says.
basically, lubricant ATA ang WD40, so kung makalinis man siya, hindi siguro 100%.
my friend used WD40 just to give the cymbal a thin sort of "film" para hindi kapitan ng dirt or worse, patina.

again, experience ko lang ito.
hope that helped.

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #363 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:33:33 PM »

Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results.

Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.

1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done.

Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)

Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)

Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO.

Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)

samscapular · « **Reply #364 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:41:35 PM »

Ask ko lang hindi naman ba nagiging brittle yung metal pag sinasubmerge sa tubig?pero mas ok ata to kesa sa GLO since 10 mins mo lang naman isasubmerge.Ma try nga..

suspendead · « **Reply #365 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:44:13 PM »

Quote from: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:33:33 PM

Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results. Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.

1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done.

Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)

Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)

Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO.

Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)

How much baking sode should you put?

By the way, grabe tama ng XS20 mo bro...

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #366 on:** October 17, 2009, 09:51:15 PM »

Grabe noh sir? Kaya nga naasar talaga ako kasi mukhang matagal-tagal din niyang ginamitan ng GLO yung Xs20. Haay buhay...

About the amount, I'm not sure exactly how much, pero it depends on how much water there is, you'll know once you see na nagmix na yung buong tubig dun sa baking soda.

About the cymbals becoming brittle, ang alam ko hindi, tried and trusted na itong method sa pagkakaalam ko. Tsaka nung highschool inexperiment namin to sa chemistry lab, pinadala kami nung mga sobrang duming coins, yung tipong black na sila, then binabad sa warm water, ayun, ang galing nalinis nga talaga siya. Later on ko lang nalaman na rinerecommend din siya sa cymbals. I found this method on other Pinoy drum forums. Tsaka hindi naman hot yung water eh, lukewarm lang siya kaya hindi iinit yung cymbals

edit: Okay, it's been really bugging me, since I've never used GLO I wouldn't know but, how long do you guys think has he been using it on that Xs20 based from the pic?

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #367 on:** October 18, 2009, 01:43:24 AM »

Quote from: samscapular on October 17, 2009, 09:41:35 PM

Ask ko lang hindi naman ba nagiging brittle yung metal pag sinasubmerge sa tubig?pero mas ok ata to kesa sa GLO since 10 mins mo lang naman isasubmerge.Ma try nga..

sige sir try niyo, recommend ko talaga. show us rin your results after.

intake · « **Reply #368 on:** October 18, 2009, 01:47:04 AM »

dun sa WD40 wala naman akong naiisip na nakakasira sa cymbal since hindi naman nakakapag corrode ng metal yun

i guess pwede na siyang protectant

mr. trigger · « **Reply #369 on:** October 18, 2009, 02:21:22 AM »

also try "WIPE OUT dirt and stain remover" available sa ace hardware. ok naman sya sa mga cymbals ko,kumikintab din after

mapunasan.lalo na sa mga libag na nakukuha sa palo ng sticks. after gig pinupunasan ko agad using wipe out

drumachine · « **Reply #370 on:** October 18, 2009, 03:08:04 AM »

Quote from: intake on October 18, 2009, 01:47:04 AM

dun sa WD40 wala naman akong naiisip na nakakasira sa cymbal since hindi naman nakakapag corrode ng metal yun
i guess pwede na siyang protectant

yup. i've tried this before sa mga traditional cymbals. less finger prints kasi magdadalawang isip ka hawakan yung cymbal. hehe. basta wag lang sa maalikabok, ok to. ang besides, WD40 is water based kaya no worries.

suspendead · « **Reply #371 on:** October 18, 2009, 08:01:58 AM »

Quote from: drumachine on October 18, 2009, 03:08:04 AM

yup. i've tried this before sa mga traditional cymbals. less finger prints kasi magdadalawang isip ka hawakan yung cymbal. hehe. basta wag lang sa maalikabok, ok to. ang besides, WD40 is water based kaya no worries.

I see, i'll probably try it out on my old broken cymbals before I try it on my good cymbals hehehe, buti na yung sigurado para di magsisi hehehe...

pmack · « **Reply #372 on:** October 18, 2009, 08:02:18 AM »

Quote from: mr. trigger on October 18, 2009, 02:21:22 AM

also try "WIPE OUT dirt and stain remover" available sa ace hardware. ok naman sya sa mga cymbals ko,kumikintab din after

mapunasan.lalo na sa mga libag na nakukuha sa palo ng sticks. after gig pinupunasan ko agad using wipe out

i've tried this before, but parang feeling ko may back effects sa cymbal not unlike ng GLO.
pero baka napraning lang ako. hehehe.
bumalik na lang din ako sa normal na cymbal cleaner.

chrism_rivera · « **Reply #373 on:** October 21, 2009, 01:42:56 PM »

Quote from: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:33:33 PM

Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results. Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.

1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done.

Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)

Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)

Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO.

Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)

Sir, hindi ba affected yung logo pag ginawa itong procedure na ito?

Pano maiiwasang mabura yung logo if you are using cymbal cleaner?

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #374 on:** October 21, 2009, 04:38:24 PM »

Nope, ang alam ko wala talaga siyang effects sa cymbals. For as long as I remember, mga metal polishers lang talaga ang may bad effects with cymbals and the logo too. Nagstick na talaga ako dito sa Baking Soda method ever since.

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