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Offline autoexec

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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #450 on: January 26, 2010, 03:58:56 PM »
sales talk? peace!
Wahaha! Nagbigay din naman ako possible solution ah.. :p

@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha  :lol:
Pakulo ka lang ng isang takuring tubig, tapos halo mo sa palangganang maraming baking soda at tubig gripo na rin.. dapat hindi naman sobrang init.. babad mo dun 20 mins tapos banlawan at tuyuin mo. (kaya ko sinabing banlawan dahil napansin ko mejo may pagka mild abrasive pa rin ang baking soda kahit na papano kaya sisiguraduhin mong walang maiiwan sa cymbal). ayun, tuyuin mabuti at subukang linisin ulit..

Naku bro kung ipapalinis mo rin sakin yan wag mo nang patagalin dahil mas matagal nanjan yung itim na yan mas mahirap matanggal. ;)
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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #451 on: January 26, 2010, 05:50:09 PM »
Wahaha! Nagbigay din naman ako possible solution ah.. :p
Pakulo ka lang ng isang takuring tubig, tapos halo mo sa palangganang maraming baking soda at tubig gripo na rin.. dapat hindi naman sobrang init.. babad mo dun 20 mins tapos banlawan at tuyuin mo. (kaya ko sinabing banlawan dahil napansin ko mejo may pagka mild abrasive pa rin ang baking soda kahit na papano kaya sisiguraduhin mong walang maiiwan sa cymbal). ayun, tuyuin mabuti at subukang linisin ulit..

Naku bro kung ipapalinis mo rin sakin yan wag mo nang patagalin dahil mas matagal nanjan yung itim na yan mas mahirap matanggal. ;)

nakakatamad pala gawin yung nilagang cymbals haha cge na nga papalinis ko na lang sayo. next week na lang siguro kasi mejo malayo e haha salamat bro  :-D
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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #452 on: January 27, 2010, 12:02:39 AM »
hello makiki sali lng. sa experience ko sa zildjian cleaner mahirap siya tlga gamitin sa trad finsih kesa sa brilliant pero pwde nmn siya sa trad finish. punasn mo lng ng punasn hngang mtnggal or hyaan mong matuyo ung cleaner pra pgpunas mo di siya kakalat lng and make sure na cotton ung cloth mo or franela para kakapit. sobrang daming punas ang kylngan mo para mtnggal mo ung black residue pero pgntnggal mo siya for sure mgnda results. dati ang gingwa ko after ko maalis ung black residue hinuhgsan ko ng dish washing liquid and rub lng ng fingers tapos un na.

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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #453 on: January 27, 2010, 02:14:38 AM »
nakakatamad pala gawin yung nilagang cymbals haha cge na nga papalinis ko na lang sayo. next week na lang siguro kasi mejo malayo e haha salamat bro  :-D
Hindi naman bro, actually mas nakakatamad gamitin yung zildjian cleaner kesa nilagang cymbal, hehehe. Ok bro, sakto yun next week, busy din kasi ngayong week, defense namin.. hehe. :)
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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #454 on: January 27, 2010, 04:01:48 AM »
sir mabisa ba ang nilagang cymbals? sa zbt ko minsan ginamit ko car polisher.. kumintab naman mjo nag iba ung kulay pwede ba ang car polisher?


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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #455 on: January 27, 2010, 09:13:53 AM »
hey guys.. just want to add up. tanong lang.. ok lang ba na ilubog rin ung cymbals sa tubig? or punasan ng basang clean cloth? indi kaya sya kalawangin kapag ganun?

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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #456 on: January 27, 2010, 10:39:03 AM »
@straightedgejep: bro ang problema kasi habang pinupunas ko pa lang yung cleaner nangingitim na so humahalo yung itimk dun sa natitirang cleaner. pag kinakalat ko na yung cleaner kulay itim na. try ko yung wet cloth, baka gumana hehe salamat bro  :-D

@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha  :lol:

oo try mo sir ganyan din yung nangyari sa akin. .yung nangingitim halos lahat ng part ng cymbals ko, tapos naka ubos ako ng mga 7 basahan, haha basta after ng pag gamit ng cleaner linisin mo ng wet cloth, pagkatapos apply ka ulet ng cleaner, tapos wet cloth ulet . . ganun ung ginawa ko sir eh medyo kelangan lang po ng tiyaga almost 30 mins ko nilinis yun eh. . pero nung groove juice ginamit ko wala pa 5 mins, toothbrush lang ayos na :D
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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #457 on: January 27, 2010, 10:47:32 AM »
the lesson, as always: don't clean your cymbals. they sound better, look better, smell (!) better when dirty.

kaso kung kailangan mo talaga linisin, bigay mo na lang kay autoexec (can't argue with results). tas ibenta mo na lang yung cymbal polish mo.

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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #458 on: January 27, 2010, 11:18:52 AM »
sir nagamit ko din yan sa cymbals namin sa church, and yes it is true na magastos nga sa basahan pagka yan ung ginamit mo na cleaner, pero pagka po ganyan ang nangyari it means hindi pa po tapos ung paglilinis niyo, it means you have to put more cleaner on it and polish it with pressure until that portion shines. nalinis ko naman po ung mga cymbals ko kaso sobrang sakit ng mga braso ko after kasi diniinan ko ung pagkuskos para maais tlga ung dumi. after nun hindi na ako gumamit ng cleaner na yan, bumili na lng ako nung meinl cymbal cleaner na spray, un ang effective tlga, kasi pagka spray mo plng sa cymbal makikita mo ung area na nalagyan ng product eh mas bright na agad kesa sa area na hindi pa nalagyan, kaso mahal nasa 900+... some recommend groove juice na mabibili daw sa audiophil, maybe you can give that a shot.

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« Reply #459 on: January 27, 2010, 11:24:05 AM »
mga sir meron ba kayo marerecommend na after na malinis yung cymbals mo yung parang "protective coating" para hindi siya kaagad dumumi? para tumagal yung pagkalinis niya?
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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #460 on: January 27, 2010, 03:48:36 PM »
kailanga mo lang i-polish ng husto...nakakapagod. ako mga 15-30mins pag gamit ko yung zildjian cleaner kasi kailangan polish lang hanggang mawala yung itim na iniiwan ng polish..

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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #461 on: January 27, 2010, 06:34:07 PM »
salamat sa mga reply, pero ginawa ko na lahat ng kaya ko hahahaha  :lol: pag-apply ng cleaner, punas, then pag nangitim, punas ulit, pag kumintab, punas nanaman. pero iba yung kintab nya dun sa natural na shine talaga, pag tiningnan mo sa gilid yung cymbal maitim. makintab sya kapag top view, pero pag side view maitim. last try ko na ulit mamaya, pag ayaw talaga derecho na to kay autoexec haha

salamat ulit! :-D
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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #462 on: January 27, 2010, 09:14:18 PM »
bor!try mo kaya metal polish...he he he..yong malamang tangal ang dumi yan pati kulay..kasi ganon ginagawa ng friend ko sa chruch...ako ginawa ko sa cymbals ko pinunasan ko sya ng oil..kunting oil lang!makikita mo makintab sya..pero yong dumi hindi na alis...kaya ngyon hind ko na nililinis e..pinopunasan ko nalang e...mas ok pa yong ganon e...saka habang tumatagal gumaganda tunog ng cymbals..kasi kong nililinis mo yong cymbals numinipis yan e...e ka nga e nsa maganda yogn tunog pag hindi mo nililinis..punas punas lang...he he he he..yon lang!nag adviced lang ako....GOd BLess Bro! :-D

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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #463 on: January 27, 2010, 09:44:11 PM »
bor!try mo kaya metal polish...he he he..yong malamang tangal ang dumi yan pati kulay..kasi ganon ginagawa ng friend ko sa chruch...ako ginawa ko sa cymbals ko pinunasan ko sya ng oil..kunting oil lang!makikita mo makintab sya..pero yong dumi hindi na alis...kaya ngyon hind ko na nililinis e..pinopunasan ko nalang e...mas ok pa yong ganon e...saka habang tumatagal gumaganda tunog ng cymbals..kasi kong nililinis mo yong cymbals numinipis yan e...e ka nga e nsa maganda yogn tunog pag hindi mo nililinis..punas punas lang...he he he he..yon lang!nag adviced lang ako....GOd BLess Bro! :-D

bro ayoko gumamit ng metal polish, nakakasira ng cymbal yun ganun ang ginagamit ko panlinis dati sa planet z ko, nasira yung kulay and numipis yung cymbal hehe  :-D
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Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
« Reply #464 on: January 28, 2010, 12:37:15 AM »
I tried cleaning my cymbals with that product before.
Talagang may black residue, tulad ng residue sa ROTC brass belts - you need to wipe it off again with a clean cloth.

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Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
« Reply #465 on: February 11, 2010, 07:37:52 PM »
sirs, may chance pa ba linising yung mga super dumi na cymbals? yung nagmumukang color red na tas walang shine at all  :? :? zildjian 14" ZBT hats yung akin e, got it here sa philm. was wondering kung pwede pa malinis to?  :-D

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Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
« Reply #466 on: February 11, 2010, 08:13:00 PM »
sirs, may chance pa ba linising yung mga super dumi na cymbals? yung nagmumukang color red na tas walang shine at all  :? :? zildjian 14" ZBT hats yung akin e, got it here sa philm. was wondering kung pwede pa malinis to?  :-D

malilinis siya pero di kasing linis nung date meron din akong zbt hats nag shine siya pero hindi na siya pumuti kagaya nung brandnew sila

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« Reply #467 on: February 11, 2010, 09:25:27 PM »
malilinis siya pero di kasing linis nung date meron din akong zbt hats nag shine siya pero hindi na siya pumuti kagaya nung brandnew sila

eto kasi walang kashine shine what so ever, i was wondering kung pwde bang marestore kahit papano, at least yung nag gglisten pag natapatan ng light? :D

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Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
« Reply #468 on: February 12, 2010, 10:15:11 AM »
the "driller" experience here we go



bili pa kong polish mmaya so mamaya ko pa masusubukan talaga to hehehe

This is not cymbal care and "MAINTENANCE" if you ask me!! hehehe... this is like HOW TO REMOVE THE LOGOS as quick as possible!!  :-D


(You are also risking the cymbal to crack at the middle..)   
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« Reply #469 on: February 12, 2010, 05:23:13 PM »
This is not cymbal care and "MAINTENANCE" if you ask me!! hehehe... this is like HOW TO REMOVE THE LOGOS as quick as possible!!  :-D


(You are also risking the cymbal to crack at the middle..)   

+1 parang nakakatakot nga! heheh

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« Reply #470 on: February 12, 2010, 08:26:50 PM »
eto kasi walang kashine shine what so ever, i was wondering kung pwde bang marestore kahit papano, at least yung nag gglisten pag natapatan ng light? :D

pwede pero syempre hindi mo lang isang beses lilinisin para kuminang hehe

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Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
« Reply #471 on: February 25, 2010, 04:36:02 PM »
Guys Share ko lang ang simpleng trick na natuklasan ko,

sabon lang tanggal ang matinding stains sa cymbals

i think hindi ito nakakanipis dahil po germ fighting soap lang naman sya (please correct me if i were mistaken)

dutch po ang tatak

Note: this process is the moderate to hard way , BUT worth it ang pagod

Here po ang pics ng BEFORE and AFTER ng cymbal

SUBOK na po for ZBT's, PAiSTe Bronze

Reminder: Ingat po na madaanan yung logo, nakakalabo po ng logo or Worst nakakaalis

Please post kung effective sa ibang cymbal

Now Here it is!


CLEANSER:


Cymbal na madumi:


After Cleaning:




AGAIN this is the hard way , (nakakangawit) pero ok talaga and safe


#1
basain ng tubig gripo ang cymbal

#2
alisin ang tubig hanggang ang matira nalang ay ang mga "patak patak" na tubig

#3
ibudbod ang powder sa maduming part ng cymbal

#4
gamit ang "daliri" i-scrub ang tuyong powder papunta sa moisten na cymbal

NOTE: kailangan ay kumukuskos mismo ng madiin ang powder hindi ang daliri

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kuskos lang at makikita agad ang diperensya, Ipagpatuloy hanggang mawala ang lahat ng stains

#6
banlawan mabuti ng malinis na tubig

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Patuyuin

#8
give it a buff of clear wax for Protection (recommended)

#9
mag post sa Philmusic ng result hehehe

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Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
« Reply #472 on: February 25, 2010, 07:18:58 PM »
mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?
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« Reply #473 on: February 25, 2010, 10:10:40 PM »
mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?
nasubukan mo na po yung post ko?? read mo lang po mabuti and make sure na yun mismo ang gagamitin mu
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Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
« Reply #474 on: February 26, 2010, 12:04:35 AM »
mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?

baka naman yung stain na sinasabi mo eh yung patina na tinatawag,
mahirap talaga burahin yun