Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread

[omnicloud7]

mga sir pano nyo inoorganize mga cymbals nyo sa cymbal bag? may nabibili ba para maipantay ko yung mga bell ng cymbals pag nasa loob ng bag?

just put cushions in-between. ako may isang layer ng bubble wrap at foam sa gitna ng bawat cymbal. tapos yung hi-hats nasa ibang bulsa nung bag, may foam din sila sa gitna.

[marko21]

ah sige sir salamat makapaginvest nga sa magandang bag 

[vhinming]

ah sige sir salamat makapaginvest nga sa magandang bag 

tama sir! all cymbals deserves nice shelter 
try nyu po mag hardcase,.. mejo may kamahalan pero sulit!

or next to that is MONO cymbal case,.. i dont have one but I really want one
the only reason is hindi ko inilalabas mga pies ko, kea kinda mai-istock lang din 

[jaredjared]

ok b ung vater na cymbal cleaner? out of stock na kasi zildjian pati groovejuice. salamat

[karl713]

Mga Sir anu po ang dapat gawin para hindi mabura ng cymbals cleaner ung logo ng cymbals?
saka panu po ba iiwasan na madumihan ung cymbals?

[vhinming]

Mga Sir anu po ang dapat gawin para hindi mabura ng cymbals cleaner ung logo ng cymbals?

before cleaning, get some duct tape and cover it by following the logos shape
after cleaning, use WD40 to remove excess sticky substance created by the tape

saka panu po ba iiwasan na madumihan ung cymbals?

always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands

[thunder_god]

always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands

What I usually do for added protection, is after cleaning/polishing it using a cymbal cleaner, I put car wax. I put on a thin coat then polish it to perfection.  
It keeps the cymbal proctected from dirt, stains, or those grimmy/sweaty hands after use.

[vhinming]

[/b][/size]always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands



What I usually do for added protection, is after cleaning/polishing it using a cymbal cleaner, I put car wax. I put on a thin coat then polish it to perfection.  
It keeps the cymbal proctected from dirt, stains, or those grimmy/sweaty hands after use.

yah my friend had told me that before,.. but i have no idea on how much,where to buy that car wax  

IMO its more ideal for B8 alloy such as ZBT's Sabian B8's Etc...

because after thorough cleaning,.. same stains slowly appears again or i should say its very easy to gain stain than B20 alloys,..

[karl713]

So sir vhinming lagyan ko muna ng duct tape bago ko lagyan ng cymbals cleaner?
tapos kailangan ko ba lagyan ng carwax pag katapos ko linisin??

maraming salamat po sainyo.

[vhinming]

So sir vhinming lagyan ko muna ng duct tape bago ko lagyan ng cymbals cleaner?
tapos kailangan ko ba lagyan ng carwax pag katapos ko linisin??

maraming salamat po sainyo.

yep! any tape bastat hindi maaalis when cleaning and not leaving heavy sticky mucus XD

recommended nila ang car wax,ok din daw,..

sa akin i never tried pa ehh, pero thumbs up ako dun 

[karl713]

yep! any tape bastat hindi maaalis when cleaning and not leaving heavy sticky mucus XD

recommended nila ang car wax,ok din daw,..

sa akin i never tried pa ehh, pero thumbs up ako dun 

ok po sir.salamat po sa advice.

[schizomasochizt]

I tried using Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner. Guess what.. It really works.. parang bago ulit ung cymbals ko.. hehe.. thanks a lot guys. Thanks Philmusic

[food.vulture]

just want to ask.. does cleaning with wax, or cymbal cleaners make the cymbal thinner/manipis because of the chemicals, etc?? it makes it clean, like brand new but on the other hand does it makes the cymbal brittle? 

[JDMonline]

may nakita akong cleaning paste sa bahay.
ngayon ko lang napansin to so i gave it a try.

ginamit ko sya sa zil-bel na saksakan talaga ng dumi,as-in pwede taniman ng kamote
tapos to my amazement with a little help with the scrub,kumintab ng konte yung bell
nawala yung dirt,and some stain.
but to no avail isang wipe lang sa logo burado agad

it has glycerin in it,can it harm other cymbals?

WARNING!!
wag mna ult gmitin yan bro sa cymbals mo..Moisture lng mkkha m jan..
At isa pa Glycerin are used as CATALYST on metals..
Catalyst w/ Glycerin are Superior than NaOH( Caustic Soda are example )..Depende sa concentration
Kaya nyan alisin grooves sa cymbals mo or either tunawin ang cymbal kpg marami nalagay
Kea icipin mo ung Logo alis agad..Ganu ktapang yan..Unlike Cymbal Cleaners

[dreddurius]

IMHO bago maglinis ng cymbals eh i-weigh muna kung ang habol mo ay aesthetics or functionality.

Risky business to. Maalis na ang logo wag lang ang protective coat ng cymbals. Pag walang coating, patina ang magiging kalaban mo (yung green shiz na nagbi-build up na parang Hulk baga).

If you really gotta clean it non-acid based cleaners will do. If you want darker sounds, don't bother cleaning it. Punas-punas na lang using ung 3M na microfiber or kahit na anong panlinis ng eyeglasses.

[omnicloud7]

Tanong lang mga sirs, majority kasi ng time, yung cymbals ko nasa cymbal bag, tapos nakatayo yung cymbal bag dito sa house. Ano po ba mas ok? Nakatayo or nakahiga? Pag nakahiga kasi, malakas yung stress nung cymbal na nasa pinakailalim. Pag nakatayo naman, naisip ko baka nastrestress yung one side ng bawat cymbal kasi yun yung nagpapatayo sa kanila. Ano po sa tingin niyo? Thanks!

In order, ito arrangement ng cymbals ko sa bag:

14" HiHats
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18" Crash
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21" Ride

[pmack]

nakahiga para flat. pag nakatayo may tendency na mawala yung pagka-level ng cymbal. pag nialapat mo yung cymbal sa straight surface tapos yung isang side medyo naka-angat, hindi na siya level. hindi na siya "true".

[dreddurius]

May nabasa ako sa isang drumming forum na hindi raw importante kung nakahiga or nakatayo since kung kaya ng cymbals ang stress ng playing, no-bearing daw kung naka store lang. Pero since malaking investment ang mga cymbals mas ok kung evenly distributed ang bigat, so nakahiga ang best bet ko (like what pmack said).

And yep, pareho tayo ng cymbal stacking, pinakamabigat sa baba. But in my case hindi naka store ang hats ko since yung combined weight nya eh parang delikado sa ride cymbal hehe. Ok sana kung kasing presyo ng kendi ang mga to okey lang na mayupi (better safe than sorry) ^^,

[vhinming]

for me it depends sa bow ng cymbal 

if malalim naman ang bow ng cymbal
pwede tayo mag stack from splash to ride

example

22" Ride
19" Crash
17"Crash
13" Hats
12" splash
10" splash

i believe na magkaka gap padin sila kahit gabuhok lang
depends padin talaga sa model ng cymbal
experiment nalang po

kapag nag stack from ride down to splash and hindi umangat yung ride, for me its a go 

[dreddurius]

for me it depends sa bow ng cymbal 

if malalim naman ang bow ng cymbal
pwede tayo mag stack from splash to ride

example

22" Ride
19" Crash
17"Crash
13" Hats
12" splash
10" splash

i believe na magkaka gap padin sila kahit gabuhok lang
depends padin talaga sa model ng cymbal
experiment nalang po

kapag nag stack from ride down to splash and hindi umangat yung ride, for me its a go 

+1,000,000 carabaos for this.. Mahahalikan kita sa weyfu Vhinming haha. This worked for me. My ride actually hugged my crash and hats nicely (salamat sa malalim na bow nya). Thinking out of the box (in this case, cymbal case) = WIN.

[tyrande101]

mga poging philmusicians!
I'm planning to have a general cleaning for my cymbals (K custom dark Ride, Stag DH crash, Avedis crash, avedis hats)
These are the steps that I'm going to do, correct me kapag may nakita kayong mali sa gagawin ko.

Step 1:

     a.) Prepare for hot water (hindi kumukulo).
     b.) Prepare for bandera, ung pang labahan.
     c.) Prepare for baking soda
     d.) Prepare several dry cloths,
     e.) Prepare WD-40 and car wax (turtle wax)
     f. ) Tissue

Step 2: Lagyan ng tissue ang logo and patungan pa ng duck tape, bale sandwich sya, ang nadidikitan lang na part ng duck tape yung outside area ng logo.

Step 3: lagyan ng hot water ang bandera, lagyan na rin ng baking soda

Step 4: Ilapat ang cymbal sa hot water with baking soda for 5 mins, yung mga hindi matanggal na substance, punas punasan mo ng cloth while nakababad.

Step 5: Then pagka-ahon ni cymbal, Tanggalin ang tape sa may logo, (if sticky substance occurs, Apply WD-40)

Step 6: Punasan ng dry cloth ang buong cymbal

Step 7: apply car wax.

Will it result to a shiny almost brand new looking cymbal?  

[Riff_6603]

baka matanggal yung logo pagtanggal ng duct tape or worse paglagay mo ng WD40 mabura na for good. try sandwiching tissues in between the logo and sa duct tape, yung part na lang na nakadikit is yung outside ng logo area/part.

[plitipiw40315]

meron na po bang nakatry sainyo na gumamit ng groove juice??pa-review naman po..thanks!! 

[tyrande101]

baka matanggal yung logo pagtanggal ng duct tape or worse paglagay mo ng WD40 mabura na for good. try sandwiching tissues in between the logo and sa duct tape, yung part na lang na nakadikit is yung outside ng logo area/part.

Post modified na sir Riff, maraming salamat po! any feedback for my Cymbal general cleaning method? anyone? I need furthermore assessment before I commence general cleaning.

[straightwire]

i use battery electrolyte(tubig ng baterya) apply using paint brush wait few minutes then hugasan ng  tubig medyo makati lang pag nag contact sa skin then final polishing using metal polish.