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Offline marcus_gloom

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Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« on: November 04, 2016, 01:21:05 PM »
Planning to get an R16. Its kinda been out for quite a while, so I reckon someone here can give me an advice on its pros and cons. Thanks!

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2016, 07:41:18 PM »
^ R8 is for starters, R16 is enough, R24 is too much.

I have R16, so far naeenjoy ko siya as a drummer. Dameng mic inputs eh for drum mics.

If you're a guitarist, advisable channel ng guitar cable is the first channel. It's meant for guitars, bass, and bass drum mic. Tsaka okay na yung R8 o R16.

If you're planning to record an acoustic on condenser mics, use the 5th and 6th channel.

As an interface, I use mac with Logic Pro X, so far wala pa naman ako problema working with it using the R16.

I believe no need na for an R24 kasi pareho lang naman sila halos ni R16. 4 Phantom input ang R24, 2 naman sa R16. Tsaka may built in na parang drum machine lang.

So far I haven't experienced any cons with regard my R16.

Advise, No need for brand new as long as it is functioning properly. Price range 14-16k. Brand new cost 22k and up.

I got mine abroad, store display, but in very great condition. Complete with accessories.

Hope this helps.
Planning for a Band Rehearsal Studio business. Baka may alam kayong space for rent around QC area lang. Please PM me. Thank you.

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2016, 09:54:44 AM »
^ R8 is for starters, R16 is enough, R24 is too much.

I have R16, so far naeenjoy ko siya as a drummer. Dameng mic inputs eh for drum mics.

If you're a guitarist, advisable channel ng guitar cable is the first channel. It's meant for guitars, bass, and bass drum mic. Tsaka okay na yung R8 o R16.

If you're planning to record an acoustic on condenser mics, use the 5th and 6th channel.

As an interface, I use mac with Logic Pro X, so far wala pa naman ako problema working with it using the R16.

I believe no need na for an R24 kasi pareho lang naman sila halos ni R16. 4 Phantom input ang R24, 2 naman sa R16. Tsaka may built in na parang drum machine lang.

So far I haven't experienced any cons with regard my R16.

Advise, No need for brand new as long as it is functioning properly. Price range 14-16k. Brand new cost 22k and up.

I got mine abroad, store display, but in very great condition. Complete with accessories.

Hope this helps.

paps chak, yung R16 ba, pag minap mo sa DAW i.e. Logic or Reaper, 16 individual inputs din ba lumalabas? or 2 mono inputs lang na split channel lang?
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2016, 11:18:36 AM »
^ Individual input sinet ko paps. May template na kong natutunan sa Youtube. Nakuha ko yung tip sa Drummer Connection. So everytime binubuksan ko Logic ko na naka-on din yung R16, matic na na individual.

Di rin ako nag-e-stereo talaga, puro mono ako. Gawa ng di pantay pandinig ko. Remember my ear problems? That's it.

Better safe recording than compromised. Baka mamaya di rin pantay quality pag nag stereo ko. Hay hirap ng basag isang ear drum.
Planning for a Band Rehearsal Studio business. Baka may alam kayong space for rent around QC area lang. Please PM me. Thank you.

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2016, 11:35:51 AM »
^ Individual input sinet ko paps. May template na kong natutunan sa Youtube. Nakuha ko yung tip sa Drummer Connection. So everytime binubuksan ko Logic ko na naka-on din yung R16, matic na na individual.

Di rin ako nag-e-stereo talaga, puro mono ako. Gawa ng di pantay pandinig ko. Remember my ear problems? That's it.

Better safe recording than compromised. Baka mamaya di rin pantay quality pag nag stereo ko. Hay hirap ng basag isang ear drum.

so paps, ibig sabihin, 16 inputs nakikita mo sa DAW? i.e., 1 track for bass drum, 1 track for snare, and so on? SHET, NAGAGAS AKO HA =)) gusto ko kasi yung Scarlett 18i20, pero kung pwede naman pala magindividual inputs si R16, eh pucha, no brainer!
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha


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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2016, 12:40:47 PM »
^ Wait, wait, wait... Di ako magaling sa techie terms eh. So baka magkaibang intindi tayo..

**Warning: I'll use the word "track" a lot. Baka ma-annoy ka.

Hmmmm, let's start this way. I can record 8 tracks simultaneously. Works well with me as a drummer. Nakukulangan lang ako sa phantom power which is applicable to 2 channels only. Gusto ko sana ng isa pa para sa hi-hat condenser mic, bukod pa sa 2 overheads condensers. I can't record 16 tracks simultaneously unless the first 8 tracks are already recorded.

Next, may switch button don sa R16 na nagtatanong kung 1st to 8th track yung gagamitin mo o yung 9th to 16th track. Magagamit mo to kung stand-alone R16 ang gagamitin mo for recording. Walang laptop, DAW, etc..

Ex.
Let's say a drummer, nag record siya ng part niya, kailangan niya ng 8 tracks for the whole kit, kailangan niya pindutin yung switch na nagsasabing pang 1st to 8th track yung gagamitin niya. Alam mo naman na drummer, lots of mics, lots of tracks needed.
Ngayon eto, turn naman ni guitarist mag record ng part niya, since nagamit na yung 1st to 8th track ng drummer, kailangan niya pindutin yung switch na nagsasabing sa pang 9th to 16th track na siya magrerecord. R16 has only 8 xlr/line-in inputs, so kailangan tanggalin ni drummer yung mga drum mics na nagamit niya di ba? Pwede ka nang mag line-in ngayon ng gitara para mag record ng guitars of any track sa 9th to 16th.
Hindi mabubura o mapapatungan yung narecord ni drummer kasi ang ginamit niya si 1st 8, tas si guitarist ang gagamitin niya yung 2nd half ng 16.
Going back, 1 track lang naman gagamitin ni guitarist di ba? Let's say yun yung 9th track, pwede siyang may kasabay na mag record on the succeeding tracks. Pwedeng kasabay na niya si keyboardist, bassist, vocalist, kasi may remaining tracks pa naman na di nagagamit. Thanks to that button that asks kung sa anong tracks ang gusto mong gamitin.

Yung example na binigay ko is yung kayang gawin ng R16, stand alone. All can be recorded through an SD Card.

Now this, gusto mo ng may DAW para mas swabe at pulido recording. Same lang rin halos sila ni stand alone mode, makakapagdagdag ka nga lang ng effects through DAW and mas easier ang pag edit ng parts especially pag kinailangan nang lagyan ng compressors, kailangan mag cut, etc.. Anyway, just like sa studio recording talaga, kanya kanyang record ng parts pa rin. Kahit abutin ka ng 24 o 32 tracks o more than pa, ayos lang. It's never ending. Assign lang ng assign ng gagamiting track. This can be recorded and saved directly sa DAW mo, no need for  SD Cards.

Sana na-explain ko ng maayos. Gets mo naman na siguro yung iba since may album naman na ata kayo ng midnight meetings.

Yung Scarlett maganda talaga! Pero parang mas gusto ko yung bagong labas, Clarett. GAS attack nga pero kakaGAS ko lang tsaka okay pa naman ako sa R16.
Planning for a Band Rehearsal Studio business. Baka may alam kayong space for rent around QC area lang. Please PM me. Thank you.

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2016, 02:13:22 PM »
^ Wait, wait, wait... Di ako magaling sa techie terms eh. So baka magkaibang intindi tayo..

**Warning: I'll use the word "track" a lot. Baka ma-annoy ka.

Hmmmm, let's start this way. I can record 8 tracks simultaneously. Works well with me as a drummer. Nakukulangan lang ako sa phantom power which is applicable to 2 channels only. Gusto ko sana ng isa pa para sa hi-hat condenser mic, bukod pa sa 2 overheads condensers. I can't record 16 tracks simultaneously unless the first 8 tracks are already recorded.

Next, may switch button don sa R16 na nagtatanong kung 1st to 8th track yung gagamitin mo o yung 9th to 16th track. Magagamit mo to kung stand-alone R16 ang gagamitin mo for recording. Walang laptop, DAW, etc..

Ex.
Let's say a drummer, nag record siya ng part niya, kailangan niya ng 8 tracks for the whole kit, kailangan niya pindutin yung switch na nagsasabing pang 1st to 8th track yung gagamitin niya. Alam mo naman na drummer, lots of mics, lots of tracks needed.
Ngayon eto, turn naman ni guitarist mag record ng part niya, since nagamit na yung 1st to 8th track ng drummer, kailangan niya pindutin yung switch na nagsasabing sa pang 9th to 16th track na siya magrerecord. R16 has only 8 xlr/line-in inputs, so kailangan tanggalin ni drummer yung mga drum mics na nagamit niya di ba? Pwede ka nang mag line-in ngayon ng gitara para mag record ng guitars of any track sa 9th to 16th.
Hindi mabubura o mapapatungan yung narecord ni drummer kasi ang ginamit niya si 1st 8, tas si guitarist ang gagamitin niya yung 2nd half ng 16.
Going back, 1 track lang naman gagamitin ni guitarist di ba? Let's say yun yung 9th track, pwede siyang may kasabay na mag record on the succeeding tracks. Pwedeng kasabay na niya si keyboardist, bassist, vocalist, kasi may remaining tracks pa naman na di nagagamit. Thanks to that button that asks kung sa anong tracks ang gusto mong gamitin.

Yung example na binigay ko is yung kayang gawin ng R16, stand alone. All can be recorded through an SD Card.

Now this, gusto mo ng may DAW para mas swabe at pulido recording. Same lang rin halos sila ni stand alone mode, makakapagdagdag ka nga lang ng effects through DAW and mas easier ang pag edit ng parts especially pag kinailangan nang lagyan ng compressors, kailangan mag cut, etc.. Anyway, just like sa studio recording talaga, kanya kanyang record ng parts pa rin. Kahit abutin ka ng 24 o 32 tracks o more than pa, ayos lang. It's never ending. Assign lang ng assign ng gagamiting track. This can be recorded and saved directly sa DAW mo, no need for  SD Cards.

Sana na-explain ko ng maayos. Gets mo naman na siguro yung iba since may album naman na ata kayo ng midnight meetings.

Yung Scarlett maganda talaga! Pero parang mas gusto ko yung bagong labas, Clarett. GAS attack nga pero kakaGAS ko lang tsaka okay pa naman ako sa R16.

ah! so 8 IN siya in reality? tama?
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 03:16:33 PM »
^ Tama paps. Great for small band recording simultaenously or even part per part.
Planning for a Band Rehearsal Studio business. Baka may alam kayong space for rent around QC area lang. Please PM me. Thank you.

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2016, 12:05:25 AM »
Wow. Super detailed. Thanks Sir Musiciangnurse23! Kukuha ako nito sa bonus. Will record my riffs and probably my band as well!

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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2016, 12:57:15 PM »
gas on zoom r8!

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2016, 11:54:52 PM »
 :lol: Sino si Musiciangnurse23? Hahaha!

Welcome paps! Nagkataon lang na may konting naitabi non at naka tyempo ng magandang deal. Worth it rin talaga minsan maghintay pag naga-GAS attack na. Maganda R16. I myself would recommend it to those who want to enter audio recordings.

gas on zoom r8!

Maganda R8, medyo bitin lang. Kulang kasi sa inputs. O baka ako lang nabibitin kasi I need more mic inputs for individual drum mics.

Paps nakuha ko PM mo, read lang ako konti ng sa R8. Di ko pa kasi siya totally na-explore. R16 at R24 pa lang. But nevertheless, solid ang R Series ng Zoom. For amateur to pro use that is so handy.
Planning for a Band Rehearsal Studio business. Baka may alam kayong space for rent around QC area lang. Please PM me. Thank you.

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2016, 06:36:30 AM »
Typo lang po boss! Naka phone lang ako. Hehe. I bought a Boss Micro BR which is fine for demos or simple song arrangement. I need a real production tool. Hence the gas for R16. I have a digital drumpad so i think i can take advantage of the simultaneous 8 track recording to the hilt.

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2016, 09:45:33 AM »
Typo lang po boss! Naka phone lang ako. Hehe. I bought a Boss Micro BR which is fine for demos or simple song arrangement. I need a real production tool. Hence the gas for R16. I have a digital drumpad so i think i can take advantage of the simultaneous 8 track recording to the hilt.

kung may digital drum pad ka paps, might be better to just route it using MIDI, tapos VSTi i.e. Superior Drummer
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: Zoom R16, R8 or R24 Users
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2016, 10:05:48 AM »
Maganda R8, medyo bitin lang. Kulang kasi sa inputs. O baka ako lang nabibitin kasi I need more mic inputs for individual drum mics.

Paps nakuha ko PM mo, read lang ako konti ng sa R8. Di ko pa kasi siya totally na-explore. R16 at R24 pa lang. But nevertheless, solid ang R Series ng Zoom. For amateur to pro use that is so handy.

nabasa ko na paps! oks lang sakin r8 kahit bitin nga sa input. (kasi wala pa naman akong i-iinput! hahaha) tsaka easy to carry for barkada jamming!

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2016, 12:27:16 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2016, 06:36:54 PM »
R16 na sa brakada jamming paps! Big band :-D
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2016, 09:37:02 AM »
Ang layo ng presyo eh halos doble. Wala pa rin naman akong gamit na isasaksak hahaha, plus I need the drum machine! ang ginagawa ko sa tascam 4track ko dati, sinasaksak ko yung laptop kong nagrarun ng fruity loops hahaha

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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2016, 10:00:41 AM »
R16 na sa brakada jamming paps! Big band :-D

Bro I got R8 na!

Anyway, tanong ko lang, pwede kayang maprogram ko na magcchange yung tempo midsong? sa chorus part halimbawa, yung metronome or yung drum track (rhythm pattern sa sequencer).. Pinagaaralan ko pa hehe.

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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2016, 11:00:31 PM »
^ Congrats bro! Ayos yan. Gamitin ng gamitin para laging happy! :lol:

With regard to your question di ko pa nasusubukan. Try mo siguro sa mga DAWs kung applicable.
Planning for a Band Rehearsal Studio business. Baka may alam kayong space for rent around QC area lang. Please PM me. Thank you.