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Title: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: aeus on August 01, 2008, 09:07:59 AM

Sound quality, alin ang mas type mo?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on August 02, 2008, 08:09:44 AM

10m's sounds bigger to me but while playing longer, nakakangalawit sa kamay hindi comfortable unlike the selmer mk6 or sba's magkakalapit mga keys & designed with offset mga right & left hand keys kaya mas madaling gamitin. Dipende na lang din sa mouthpiece na gagamitin & yung sax operator na rin. haha

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 08:47:02 AM

wow. ok ba yung tunog ng SBA? . .soundclips naman  :-)  Sabi naman ng iba mas ok yung ergo ng Mk Vi compared sa SBA..

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 09:00:05 AM

From left T-4, 10M, Mark VI and Rev-C

1. 10m (Conn) - Ang laki ng tunog, pwedeng pwede pang solo. Talo mk6 ko
2. Mk6 (Selmer) - ganda ng tunog and comfortable ang key fingering, pang Jazz
3. Rev-C (SML) - halos di kalayuan ang tunog sa MK6, swabe
4. T-4 (Yanagisawa) - My first tenor

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/T4-10M-Mk6-SML.jpg)

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 11:49:48 AM

tnxs for the pictures bro  :-o

kita talga yung laki ng bell ng 10M. . pero mas mahaba ang bell at bow ng Mk VI. ..

Makapal ang tunog at medyo spread ang 10M. . ..  . . pero iba naman ang tunog ng Mark VI mas sweet at mas focus yung tunog niya . ..

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 01:42:01 PM

Tama ka bro

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 02:39:57 PM

bro, rolled tone holes ba yung 10M? Anung gamit mong mpc?

Ang ganda ng Mk Vi. ..orig lacq ba yung silver?  :-o

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 02:48:07 PM

I use berglarsen dito. 10m with rolled tone holes ito. Year around 1935 to 1936 yata ito base sa serial number 267999 pero nakuha ko na very light coating relacquered na siya.

Yung Selmer Mark 6 naman, badoy noong nakuha ko nakalagay nga lang sa sako e, then metal hand polished ko lang siya, ang ganda pala kinalabasan. Orig silver finished itong mark VI.

Yung Yanagisawa naman is bare brass na, & yung SML relacquered din. Pangit nga pagka lacquer nagtutuklap pa. Nakuha ko ganyan na e, pero ang swabe ng tunog

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 03:07:07 PM

bro, post mo rin ito sa "post your gear pics".. .close up mo rin yung mga horns  :evil:

Yang silver na Mk VI. . .mas rare ata yan kesa ginto  :-o

sa akin relaq yung 10M pero may rolled tone holes (1945).  Gamit ko naman ay vintage na Selmer C* at naka-acquire ako ng metal meyer. .. .ayos naman yung tunog.

Sarap gamitin ang 10M. . ala Coleman Hawkins. . .ang lalim talga ng tunog.... pasok sa ballad.  May nakuha naman akong Mk VI, sinubukang hipan, ayon tamis ng tunog kahit kailangang ipa-overhaul. .. . ..d na ako makapaghintay na gamitin yon  :-D

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 04:08:10 PM

Other side ng mga tenor ko pala.

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/T4-10M-Mk6-SMLleftside.jpg)

Can you share pics of your mark vi too bro?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 05:12:42 PM

can't wait na mapa-ayos

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x67/narra_78/DSC03819.jpg)


10M

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x67/narra_78/saxstandingar8.jpg)

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 05:26:49 PM

Anong serial number ng Mark VI mo?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 06:50:13 PM

M11####  :wink:

sa iyo bro anung serial number?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 07:03:27 PM

M.200633

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 11, 2008, 07:11:46 PM

Have all the original floral engravings on bell, around bell rim & neck.
Napaka ganda talaga nito, with a very sweet sound siyempre and all that.

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 07:17:04 PM

awwww. . . sayang naman at napakawaln mo ito  :|

magkano mo pinakawalan?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 11, 2008, 07:19:24 PM

Value ng SARAO jeep, hehe :-(

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 07:23:34 PM

Talgang ganun ang buhay bro. . . .

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 07:54:13 PM

Ito yung closer look ng Conn 10M naked lady with rolled rone holes.

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/10mbellrim.jpg)

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 11, 2008, 08:31:54 PM

nakakasilaw yung naked lady  :-o

Quote from: aeus on September 11, 2008, 07:46:17 PM

This is what I have now, whew!

Tenor Selmer Mark VII, sold to me by our famous Mr. Ding Basbas !

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/Mk7bellrim.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/Mk7back.jpg)
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/Mk7upperstack.jpg)

congratz bro.  It's meant to be na para sa iyo yan bro  :wink:

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on September 12, 2008, 02:48:58 AM

Bro,
 sinong engraver ng SBA mo?....

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 12, 2008, 04:41:04 AM

Bro,

Orig ang engravings ng SBA.
May nakita akong ganito ang saxpics.com noon kaso alto at parang wala na yata this time. Ewan ko bakit niya tinagal sa website niya, or still under construction pa.

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on September 12, 2008, 02:56:59 PM

sa tingin ko nga ang MK VII ay baka half lang ng price nitong SBA mo or wala pa...
Magkano na ba ang bilihan ng Vintage Selmer dyan?...

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 12, 2008, 03:00:52 PM

25K bili ni Trees yung selmer tenor mark VI niya.  Jackpot ba Tress?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 12, 2008, 04:25:41 PM

nag-add pa ko ng item ~ 37k din in total  :-)

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 12, 2008, 04:34:46 PM

I sold my almost bnew na YAS 32 (walang kamot). . .en then eto yung lumabas. . saktong sakto. .

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x67/narra_78/DSC03820.jpg)


It was meant to be talga yung Selmer 

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 12, 2008, 06:48:54 PM

Trees,

Relacquered ba selmer tenor mo?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on September 13, 2008, 08:42:04 AM

trees,
 saan mo na score ang MKVI mo?....

Aeus,
I also have a Mk VII ,but sold it on ebay almost two months ago.....pambili ng YAS 82z....w/c is my main alto..(back up na lang ang 62II )....

pero iba pa rin ang vintage!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 13, 2008, 09:02:00 AM

Maganda talaga vintage saxes, most pro players prefer vintage kung pagpipiliin lang sila between vintage and new models. Magandang collection ito.

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 13, 2008, 09:18:32 AM

Dingricon,

Anong brand yung straight soprano mo?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on September 13, 2008, 10:29:56 AM

Bro,
 Cannonball stone series, raven model.....mahabang istorya nang ipunan eto... i  sold my other horns..(soprano la sax 650 , etc..) para mabili 'to......

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: aeus on September 13, 2008, 08:44:57 PM

Nagtataka lang bakit mas maraming gumagamit sa straight soprano vs. curve soprano sax? Any idea?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 14, 2008, 06:11:58 PM

Quote from: aeus on September 12, 2008, 06:48:54 PM

Trees,

Relacquered ba selmer tenor mo?

original . . .hindi sya tubog. . ..pina-ayos ko na bro  :wink:  tuwang-tuwa yung nag-aayos. . .ang ganda raw ng tunog...nakalilbang daw. . .

d2 rin sa forum bro. .....

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 15, 2008, 02:17:00 PM

Quote from: trees on September 14, 2008, 06:11:58 PM

original . . .hindi sya tubog. . ..pina-ayos ko na bro  :wink:  tuwang-tuwa yung nag-aayos. . .ang ganda raw ng tunog...nakalilbang daw. . .

d2 rin sa forum bro. .....

Trees,

Sino tiga ayos ng mga sax mo?
Magkano charge ng repair niya?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 15, 2008, 02:26:30 PM

Sa Tanuan Batangas pa ko nagpa-pa-ayos. . .in terms of singil... pm na lang tayo mag-usap. . hirap na  :lol:

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on September 15, 2008, 02:29:11 PM

aNO yung PM, hehe

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on September 15, 2008, 02:30:31 PM

private message. . .hehehe. . .

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on December 20, 2009, 08:23:02 AM

Quote from: cgconn on September 11, 2008, 09:00:05 AM

From left T-4, 10M, Mark VI and Rev-C

1. 10m (Conn) - Ang laki ng tunog, pwedeng pwede pang solo. Talo mk6 ko
2. Mk6 (Selmer) - ganda ng tunog and comfortable ang key fingering, pang Jazz
3. Rev-C (SML) - halos di kalayuan ang tunog sa MK6, swabe
4. T-4 (Yanagisawa) - My first tenor

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/T4-10M-Mk6-SML.jpg)

Balanced Action vs. Mark VI ?
I really prefer the tone of my Balanced Action pa rin.
Malayo talaga ang tunog ng BA sa Mk6. Mas malaki ang tunog lalo na pag dating sa low keys.

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/BAvsMK6.jpg)

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on December 20, 2009, 09:10:18 PM

yon din ang napansin ko bro (cgconn) sa mkvi na parang umaalog yung tunog pag low notes.. . ..pero na 10M, buo ang tunog niya.  Yon lang, iba pa rin ang feel ng Mkvi

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on December 21, 2009, 07:27:01 AM

Yes, comfortable talaga rin when playing a Mark 6 over sa lahat.

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on January 03, 2010, 09:37:24 AM

Quote from: cgconn on December 20, 2009, 08:23:02 AM

Balanced Action vs. Mark VI ?
I really prefer the tone of my Balanced Action pa rin.
Malayo talaga ang tunog ng BA sa Mk6. Mas malaki ang tunog lalo na pag dating sa low keys.

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/BAvsMK6.jpg)

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/CIMG3883.jpg)
Gold plated Selmer Mark VI & Bare brass Balanced Action

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/CIMG3920.jpg)
Conn 26M & Bare brass Balanced Action

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/CIMG3907.jpg)
Baritone Martin Troubador
Tenor Selmer Balanced Action
Alto Conn 26M
Curved Soprano Vito
Straight Soprano Liang

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: marcysax on January 03, 2010, 01:26:36 PM

wow sabaw!!! dami sax enge nman po kahit sml hehe....  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on January 04, 2010, 08:47:13 AM

Quote from: cgconn on January 03, 2010, 09:37:24 AM

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/CIMG3883.jpg)
Gold plated Selmer Mark VI & Bare brass Balanced Action

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/CIMG3920.jpg)
Conn 26M & Bare brass Balanced Action

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/CIMG3907.jpg)
Baritone Martin Troubador
Tenor Selmer Balanced Action
Alto Conn 26M
Curved Soprano Vito
Straight Soprano Liang

may soprano ka pala bro. magkano score mo?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on January 06, 2010, 05:29:34 PM

Nabili ko yung Vito curved soprano 17K 5-years ago
at yung Liang straight soprano 12K (china made).

Ikaw Trees, meron ka bang soprano?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on January 07, 2010, 05:45:35 PM

meron ako bro, china made.

pakakawalan mo ba yung curve? sana maka-score din ako ng baritone.

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: cgconn on January 09, 2010, 06:19:01 PM

Hindi bro, ok din kasi ang brand na Vito, (japan made & France made).

Yung straight soprano ang hanap ko yung mas matino sana at hindi china made. Txs.

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on January 10, 2010, 01:35:38 AM

mga bro, baka interested kayo.. i have several sopranos for sale..... LA sax, Winston BOston,jupiter all were made in Taiwan.. also have an old staight american made (need to be repaired ).. malayo nga lang ako.. :-D

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on January 10, 2010, 06:46:27 PM

oo nga kuya..pano kaya? hehehe...medyo hirap ako sa sop ko...

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: vincelahorra on January 10, 2010, 08:23:13 PM

To trees, cgconn, dingricon, aeus, marcysax, and other participants in this thread:

very interesting discussion, very mouth-watering pics!

we should get together sometime with our horns and have a "show-and-play". for participants like dingricon who's in the US, maybe a webcam could facilitate his presence in this meeting. whachatink, guys?

by the way, here's a link to some pics of my horns:
Selmer Mark VI serial # m0157429 (1968): http://vincelahorra.multiply.com/photos/album/2
Selmer Mark VI serial # m0157082 (1968): http://vincelahorra.multiply.com/photos/album/13

Vince

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on January 11, 2010, 01:43:40 AM

Quote from: aeus on September 13, 2008, 08:44:57 PM

Nagtataka lang bakit mas maraming gumagamit sa straight soprano vs. curve soprano sax? Any idea?

kasi mas sikat si Kenny G? kesa kay Dave Koz?....i think mas madalingmaghanap ng straight kesa curved soprano...pero sa akin mas ok ang curvie kasi mas maririnig mo ang tone mo.

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on January 11, 2010, 01:48:41 AM

Vince,
ganda ng tenor saxes mo!... meron dito, binebenta ng friend ko MKVI din, ..pero wala akong $$,.. :cry: offer sa akin $4,000.. nabenta ng malapit sa $6,000.. :-osus..kung alam ko lang marami na sana ako dati dyan sa 'pinas..

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: trees on January 11, 2010, 02:11:48 AM

kuya ding,

magkano ninyo po pakakawalan yung sops'?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M vs Selmer SBA / MK6
Post by: dingricon on January 11, 2010, 03:55:22 AM

- yong Jupiter  JPS 547 na reserved na...($500 lang yon)....it's not the SPS model....

-yong LA sax model ___ (this is not the 650 model), with F# (unlike the ^50 keyed up to High G) --$400 last price , got it for $500

 -the Winston Boston Pro 1 model ,parang bago.. used as back up...- $600 last price..

i'm planning to sell my LA saxBB tenor & BB alto, Antigua As3220 etc..pm na lang.. ..medyo bawas /tigil na muna sa... GAS...(gear acquisition syndrome)...

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: cgconn on August 11, 2010, 07:19:19 PM

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l452/cgconn/P1040762.jpg)
Conn alto models
From left - Chu Berry, 6M, 28M, 26M, & Transitional

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: joeymanota on August 11, 2010, 11:30:51 PM

mga sir bk may alam kyo binibentang tenor sax n branded,, bibili kc ako.. saka ung kaya ng budjet ko heheh email nyo nlang po me sa joey_manota@yahoo.com tnx

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: aeus on August 30, 2010, 02:53:55 PM

Sir, magkano budget mo para sa tenor sax?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: joeymanota on September 01, 2010, 06:18:28 AM

mga 50k lang sana

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: aeus on September 01, 2010, 08:15:27 AM

Anong specific brand hanap mo?

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: joeymanota on September 02, 2010, 04:04:29 AM

ung mga pang prof model n,, pero ung mura ang sana heheh kung meron lang

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: radsax on September 07, 2010, 03:48:52 PM

may tenor saxophone for sale na ba dito sa atin, mga kapatid? Yamaha tenor sax sana. thanks

Title: Re: Conn 10M /30M and Selmer SBA / MK6 Saxes
Post by: joeymanota on September 19, 2010, 09:16:19 AM

benta ko ung king cleaveland 615 ko.. 15k hnd ko alam kung anong year ginawa pero alam ko mas matanda p sa akin ung sax n un.. kc pamana p ng tito ko sa akin un ,,,,