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Title: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: marzi on July 28, 2012, 03:51:31 AM
who do you think will win?
Apple sued Samsung because they claimed that Samsung imitated Apples bounce scroll and pinch zoom technology and applied them in their Android based Galaxy units.
then Samsung fought back, suing Apple in the UK and other countries stating Apple swiped the design concept of Samsung for a rectangular, no keypad phone. they even pointed out that most of the hardware slapped on an iPhone nowadays were developed and patented by Samsung including the 3G technology(?).
dami pang facts na binigay ang Samsung. ive no time to post a link here but im sure youve read some of it.
i think Apple has provoked a Hydra. i like both products but Apple will lose this legal battle bigtime.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: badongrodrigs on July 29, 2012, 09:35:52 PM
They've been suing each other for ages now, ever since the iPhone came out. Sometimes Apple wins, sometimes it's Samsung.
Pera pera lang ang resulta.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rockophoria on July 29, 2012, 10:04:22 PM
Apple will LOSE..
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: yahxx2 on September 11, 2012, 06:01:46 PM
gagawa sana ako ng thread but nakita ko ito.. my opinion sa never ending na saga na ito.
for me in any point TALO ang Apple.. Baket? tandaan nila na ang Line of Business nila ay Electronics lang, at ang binubungo nila ay Samsung Electronics Co.. Lang.. Ang ibig sabihin ko sa "LANG" ay under ng SAMSUNG Group of Companies yan.. meaning subdisiary lang yan.. mayaman ang samsung at hindi naman sa pagiging OA pero kayang kaya bilhin ng SAMSUNG ang Apple Inc. sa Lines of Business ng SAMSUNG, Heavy Ind, Electronics, Appliances, Health Care.. etc etc.. ang $1 Billion ay mani lang sa kanila.. hindi natin alam pwedeng strategy ng SAMSUNG ito sa pag lustay ng pera ng sa Apple Inc sa tuwing nag kakaroon ng KASO..
pero regarding the NEW CASE of LTE of SAMSUNG sa new iPHONE5 medyo delikado ang Apple dito.. pero ang LTE ay ginamit din ng HTC pero hindi pinansin ito ng SAMSUNG, ang hinala ko kasi ang SAMSUNG, HTC, LG at SONY ERICSSON ay under ng group na tinatawag na Android Alliance.. meaning ang Aim nila ay mapababa o matangal ang Apple Inc sa Mobile Market.. naka focus ang samsung sa Apple Inc sa lahat ng products neto specially ang Pattent issue.. mean while nagiging SLEEPING GIANT ang SONY at Little BABY Brothers ang HTC at LG.. tahimik lang sila sa mga Patent issue..
sa totoo lang mas gusto ko ang Android.. OK SANA ang Apple kung hindi lang sila GANID sa PERA.. masyadong overprice at "OVER RATED" ang products nila na pwede namang makuha sa ibang brands same specs at the lower cost , meron pa nga over specs half price ng iphone 4s mo..
lets wait for the result ng LTE LAWSUIT of SAMSUNG..
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: marzi on September 16, 2012, 09:12:27 AM
^korak!yung android alliance na yan ang yayari sa Apple.yan mga yan,at some point ay naging provider sa Apple ng isang parte o piyesa para makabuo sila ng isang iphone - direkta man o galing sa mga chinese makers.sa mga hindi nakakaalam, ang LTE(Long Term Evolution) ay ang future ng mobile internet.ito ang itinutulak ngayon na ipapalit sa 3g technology.nagsisimula na sila sa S.Korea maglabas ng LtE units.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rockophoria on September 16, 2012, 02:01:36 PM
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: marzi on September 16, 2012, 02:26:45 PM
lol hardcore Apple haterzzzz
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: Dre™ on September 16, 2012, 03:58:04 PM
^
haha..
Iba parin ang technology nang Apple in-terms of OS and camera, etc.. Although parehas silang matibay at parehas silang mabilis mag facing.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: plissken on September 17, 2012, 08:02:46 PM
On a musician standpoint, lamang ang Apple in terms of apps for music production and recording. At this point, mas maraming developers ang hiyang mag create ng apps for Ipad, Iphone and Itouch rather than for Andriod phones (I think due to difficulty of developing using android OS compared to IOS)
One example are the drum apps. Issue talaga sa Android (Samsung and others) ang response delay time / latency issues compared sa IOS (Apple). Even more, there are apps that you could record multi track songs all in your Ipad / Iphone which is really amazing in terms of sound quality and flexibility. This I have to see in Samsung products.
I personally have both Samsung (Android) and Apple (IOS) products, and I enjoy using both. But for a musician's standpoint, Apple (IOS) is more capable than Samsung (Android)... for now.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: yahxx2 on September 17, 2012, 09:28:08 PM
Meet the members of the ANDROID ALLIANCE.. Hindi ba matatakot ang Apple Inc dyan? tignan nyo kung gaano sila ka seryoso sa Apple Inc. well... samsung lang ang masyadong aggressive.. mabait naman ata yung iba hehehe..
On a musician standpoint, lamang ang Apple in terms of apps for music production and recording. At this point, mas maraming developers ang hiyang mag create ng apps for Ipad, Iphone and Itouch rather than for Andriod phones (I think due to difficulty of developing using android OS compared to IOS)
One example are the drum apps. Issue talaga sa Android (Samsung and others) ang response delay time / latency issues compared sa IOS (Apple). Even more, there are apps that you could record multi track songs all in your Ipad / Iphone which is really amazing in terms of sound quality and flexibility. This I have to see in Samsung products.
I personally have both Samsung (Android) and Apple (IOS) products, and I enjoy using both. But for a musician's standpoint, Apple (IOS) is more capable than Samsung (Android)... for now.
Yes. But not everyone's a musician...
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: skrumian on September 20, 2012, 11:55:33 PM
^^thus the disclaimer "But for a musician's standpoint."
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: Jason on September 24, 2012, 05:18:24 PM
sa panels pa lang panalo na ang samsung... malaking semicon industry to.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rye715 on January 14, 2013, 03:00:35 PM
Samsung has real core developers from the Open-Source community.
Apple only has fanboys.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: jefisipbata on January 14, 2013, 03:34:46 PM
Samsung has real core developers from the Open-Source community.
Apple only has fanboys.
fanboys lang?
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: marzi on January 14, 2013, 09:45:53 PM
napahiya yata ang Apple..
yung last na news na nabasa ko, parang sinoplak ng US patent office(or 3rd party patent reviewer) yung claim ng Apple na may patent breach ang Samsung sa 4(out of 6) patents na una nilang dinemanda. meaning, dapat nireject ng judge o binawasan yung cash damages sa Samsung.
anyway, NR naman si Samsung. nagbayad na eh. baka sa iba na lang sila maningil lolz
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rye715 on January 14, 2013, 10:01:36 PM
Ok lang. Second largest clientt ng Samsung ang Apple haha. Dun na lng siguro sila babawi ahaha.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rainierito on January 16, 2013, 03:49:33 PM
too many haters... i use both! from an artist's standpoint lamang ang ios (garageband, amplitude, brushes, procreate, artrage) kumpara android (ehem... free tuner, sketchbook na meron din sa ios) you can be creative on the go! ios wins here 'coz they advertise their products as creative multimedia gadgets, whereas most android fones are advertised as smart-computer phones. which in a sense is true that's why if ur techy guy, android is the best choice.
samsung has been producing good products and i like em all. had a galaxy note one, gave it my cousin kc i bought a galaxy s3 and it's a very nice fone! iwas gonna ditch the s3 nung lumabas iphone5 but nung tinignan ko specs, i'll just stick nlng sa fone ko.
my first ipad was an ipad 2 and im very happy with it, minsan ko nalang talaga gamitin laptop ko. tpus binenta ko at bumili ako ng ipad4 kasi mas mabilis at mas makaka drawing ako ng mas malaking canvass.
naka try nako ng samsung tab 10, my cousin was selling i said try ko muna for 2 days... it was good then i started putting widgets that i liked then biglang bumagal, tinanggal ko sya, bumilis nga pero then the android experience was gone. binalik ko nalang.
for me it's preference, parang kotse the more to products choose from, the better. you don't diss a vw owner just because u think your bmw is better. just drive the damn thing on the road!
but to answer the question i think samsung will get a bigger edge in the near future but i don't care, every company has it's peaks, just like sony did in the 80's and 90's. after samsung many predicted na huawei will comeout strong. maybe i'm old but back then you dont buy a samsung appliance, the name sounds Fugly... ngayun may huawei n paparating. lol!
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rockophoria on January 16, 2013, 11:04:56 PM
too many haters... i use both! from an artist's standpoint lamang ang ios (garageband, amplitude, brushes, procreate, artrage) kumpara android (ehem... free tuner, sketchbook na meron din sa ios) you can be creative on the go! ios wins here 'coz they advertise their products as creative multimedia gadgets, whereas most android fones are advertised as smart-computer phones. which in a sense is true that's why if ur techy guy, android is the best choice.
samsung has been producing good products and i like em all. had a galaxy note one, gave it my cousin kc i bought a galaxy s3 and it's a very nice fone! iwas gonna ditch the s3 nung lumabas iphone5 but nung tinignan ko specs, i'll just stick nlng sa fone ko.
my first ipad was an ipad 2 and im very happy with it, minsan ko nalang talaga gamitin laptop ko. tpus binenta ko at bumili ako ng ipad4 kasi mas mabilis at mas makaka drawing ako ng mas malaking canvass.
naka try nako ng samsung tab 10, my cousin was selling i said try ko muna for 2 days... it was good then i started putting widgets that i liked then biglang bumagal, tinanggal ko sya, bumilis nga pero then the android experience was gone. binalik ko nalang.
for me it's preference, parang kotse the more to products choose from, the better. you don't diss a vw owner just because u think your bmw is better. just drive the damn thing on the road!
but to answer the question i think samsung will get a bigger edge in the near future but i don't care, every company has it's peaks, just like sony did in the 80's and 90's. after samsung many predicted na huawei will comeout strong. maybe i'm old but back then you dont buy a samsung appliance, the name sounds Fugly... ngayun may huawei n paparating. lol!
I agree.. Huawei have showcased some pretty good devices that has strong "hardware capability" but their software emulation s*cks and I believe they should start developing their own softwares too so that they can take advantage of their strong hardware by "seamlessly integrating it" with their own software.. they need to invest on their core designers and developers/engineers.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: marzi on January 17, 2013, 05:08:31 AM
its funny someone mentioned Huawei because last year ehrn ako between Huawei's Honor and LG L7. Huawei got some promising hardware on their Honor the only downside is when you hold one, it feels like holding a mid range Samsung unit or an Iphone 4S at hindi optimized yung UI nila sa hardware at android version kaya laggy.what made me decide to get the L7 is the screen. cant go wrong with a 4.3 incher, hehe. perfect for browsng and watching videos.
anyway OT yan. ang purpose naman nitong thread is to discuss the actions, legal or business related, being done by these two companies. i hate to admit but Apple lost its soul and brains when Steve Jobs died. bad move yung ginawa nila lalo ngayon Samsung has just unveiled their Exynos 5 chipset - which boasts of an octa(8)-core processor. makakakuha ang Apple nyan sa iba pero under development pa din yata ngayon kaya matatagalan na naman sila bago makapag labas ng bagong unit na solid ang hardware.
like i said on my first post, Apple has provoked a Hydra.they couldve settled everything under the table. pero pinili nilang manghiya. sayang yung ties na nabuo nila kung magkakasiraan lang. tahimik lang si Samsung after nito. mukang may plan bumawi ng malaki laki e.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rockophoria on January 17, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
its funny someone mentioned Huawei because last year ehrn ako between Huawei's Honor and LG L7. Huawei got some promising hardware on their Honor the only downside is when you hold one, it feels like holding a mid range Samsung unit or an Iphone 4S at hindi optimized yung UI nila sa hardware at android version kaya laggy.what made me decide to get the L7 is the screen. cant go wrong with a 4.3 incher, hehe. perfect for browsng and watching videos.
anyway OT yan. ang purpose naman nitong thread is to discuss the actions, legal or business related, being done by these two companies. i hate to admit but Apple lost its soul and brains when Steve Jobs died. bad move yung ginawa nila lalo ngayon Samsung has just unveiled their Exynos 5 chipset - which boasts of an octa(8)-core processor. makakakuha ang Apple nyan sa iba pero under development pa din yata ngayon kaya matatagalan na naman sila bago makapag labas ng bagong unit na solid ang hardware.
like i said on my first post, Apple has provoked a Hydra.they couldve settled everything under the table. pero pinili nilang manghiya. sayang yung ties na nabuo nila kung magkakasiraan lang. tahimik lang si Samsung after nito. mukang may plan bumawi ng malaki laki e.
I agree.. one of Apple's recent mistakes is the release of the iPad Mini to compete with the uber-popular Samsung Galaxy Note 2..
Steve Jobs would probably killed all of those responsible for releasing it.. since Steve doesn't like to "follow trends" but rather "sets the trend" for others to follow.. so that he can sue them all afterwards :-D
The "Phablet" is gaining ground faster than when we started to shrink our phones.. now the trend is "he who has the bigger phone wins".. Samsung started it with their Galaxy Note line.. and they are proving worthy of it.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: kiosk12 on January 25, 2013, 12:43:12 AM
hahaha. no offens sa mga halatang samsung fanatic dyan, pero yung iba OA lang talaga, unang una yung presyo ng apple products hindi lang apple ang nagtatakda nyan, if your into business maiintindihan mo yun, baka naman yung mga haters ng apple product dyan eh yung mga hindi maka afford makabili nun, or baka naman apple user din kayo, hahaha i suggest punta nalang kayo sa mga center nila sa mall and try to compare, i have tried both of their products and for me apple, about their lawsuit, wala na tayo dun kaya wag tayo masyado affected hahaha,
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rockophoria on January 25, 2013, 10:38:57 AM
hahaha. no offens sa mga halatang samsung fanatic dyan, pero yung iba OA lang talaga, unang una yung presyo ng apple products hindi lang apple ang nagtatakda nyan, if your into business maiintindihan mo yun, baka naman yung mga haters ng apple product dyan eh yung mga hindi maka afford makabili nun, or baka naman apple user din kayo, hahaha i suggest punta nalang kayo sa mga center nila sa mall and try to compare, i have tried both of their products and for me apple, about their lawsuit, wala na tayo dun kaya wag tayo masyado affected hahaha,
actually dude wala namang masama maging fanatic ng isang brand eh, since yan ang magiging dahilan para tayong mga consumers ang magbenefit ng husto sa lahat ng mga produkto na yan, since pag naging fanatic ng isang brand ang isang tao isa na sya sa market share ng produkto na yun, ngayon yung competitor nya gagawa ng paraan para mahikayat naman nya yung mga fanatic ng kalaban nya na subukan yung produkto nya by adding "better features" and "unique user experience" by then mas panalo tayong lahat because hindi namomonopolize ng isang brand ang market ng produkto so "dere deretso and evolution" ng produkto na yun..
ako as a UX Analyst/Designer ginagamit ko lahat to understand the science behind the user interaction design between this competing products..
:-D :-D
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: CeL1916 on January 26, 2013, 01:00:21 AM
Ipod classic user! hahaha (peyborit gadget ko)
kaya sa apple ako!
kaso tama mas mura apps sa playstore!
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: electronictokwa on January 26, 2013, 01:29:08 AM
hahaha. no offens sa mga halatang samsung fanatic dyan, pero yung iba OA lang talaga, unang una yung presyo ng apple products hindi lang apple ang nagtatakda nyan, if your into business maiintindihan mo yun, baka naman yung mga haters ng apple product dyan eh yung mga hindi maka afford makabili nun, or baka naman apple user din kayo, hahaha i suggest punta nalang kayo sa mga center nila sa mall and try to compare, i have tried both of their products and for me apple, about their lawsuit, wala na tayo dun kaya wag tayo masyado affected hahaha,
kaloko ka naman e. pinag uusapan dito yung legal actions nung dalawang companies bigla kang pumasok para lang isaksak na gusto mo ng apple.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: kiosk12 on January 26, 2013, 09:37:05 AM
pakibasa nga ulit! may nabasa ka ba sa post ko na gusto ko ng apple? I did'nt say that, read your post instead then sabihin mo kung sino mas nakakaloko satin.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: kiosk12 on January 26, 2013, 09:42:25 AM
And isa pa hindi ako apple fanatic baka apple Haters ka lang talaga dude.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: marzi on January 26, 2013, 09:48:37 AM
Oh bakit ka pikon?basahin mo yung posts ko para maintindihan mo na ang pinag uusapan namin ay companies at hindi products.we were talking about company vs company,we mentioned feedbacks about some products and thats it.ikaw naman bigla kang umentra by telling us na wag namin pag usapan yung demandahan nila.you totally have no idea what the topic is all about.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: rockophoria on January 26, 2013, 12:37:56 PM
And isa pa hindi ako apple fanatic baka apple Haters ka lang talaga dude.
dude hindi kami haters or fanatics dito, we discuss the differences, limitations and similarities between products na ginagamit natin.. in this thread we discuss the potential benefits of these giant companies fighting over something us consumers can enjoy.. which is "unique features and user experience"..
sabi ko nga, the more mag compete yang mga yan, the more tayong panalo mga users..
basahin mo yung Mac vs PC thread, marami akong explanations dun about being a fanboi or hater of a specific platform, kung bakit hindi natin masasabi na papogi at sosyal lang ang mga gumagamit ng mac or mas malupet gumamit ng PC dahil mura at kuntrolado mo ang components.. try to read over there dude
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: kiosk12 on January 28, 2013, 10:58:38 AM
Di ako pikon dude kaya nga sabi ko sa una kung post NO OFFENSE diba? ikaw and nag react ng nakakaloko.
dude basahin mo yung flow ng thread na to then post ka ulit tsaka mo sabihin kung company ang pinag uusapan dito,
yung ally mo na nga ang nag sabi eh " we discuss the differences, limitations and similarities between PRODUCTS na ginagamit natin" so di mo maiiwasan na di mapag usapan ang products kung i oopen mo yung about sa company. kasi wala naman tayung pakialam kung mag compete sila eh or mag demandahan, i quote ko ulit yung sabi ng lawyer mo " the more mag compete yang mga yan, the more tayong panalo mga users.." ayun naman pala eh panalo tayong mga user and totoo yun.
Title: Re: eto na: Apple vs Samsung
Post by: grasyaps on January 28, 2013, 11:55:22 AM
Di ako pikon dude kaya nga sabi ko sa una kung post NO OFFENSE diba? ikaw and nag react ng nakakaloko.
dude basahin mo yung flow ng thread na to then post ka ulit tsaka mo sabihin kung company ang pinag uusapan dito,
yung ally mo na nga ang nag sabi eh " we discuss the differences, limitations and similarities between PRODUCTS na ginagamit natin" so di mo maiiwasan na di mapag usapan ang products kung i oopen mo yung about sa company. kasi wala naman tayung pakialam kung mag compete sila eh or mag demandahan, i quote ko ulit yung sabi ng lawyer mo " the more mag compete yang mga yan, the more tayong panalo mga users.." ayun naman pala eh panalo tayong mga user and totoo yun.
ok so pikunan aside, di naman kasi maganda na unang post na ilalagay mo dito eh sasabihan mo ng di maganda yung mga nag eere ng sides nila - "baka naman yung mga haters ng apple product dyan eh yung mga hindi maka afford makabili nun". ganyan talaga eh. malay natin may ayaw lang talaga nila - pero that doesnt mean that they cant afford Apples products so wag naman natin i-judge na hindi nila kayang bumili nun.
i own 2 Apple products. ive done work with some Macs and Macbooks. as ive stated in a thread sa PC Boards - i missed the chaos i experience everytime i use Windows *and Linux* units so i prefer those than Macs.
maybe it was my post about Apple provoking a Hydra that irked you. totoo naman di ba? Samsung is a huge company. Apple just acted like a bully. i did say bad move yun as Samsung was known to be a major provider of chipsets and other hardware for Apple. if these two companies clash and damages were done, the reconciliation period will take ages..technology sharing will be tough..
so again, let us watch and discuss the game of chess these two companies are playing :wink: