ILOILO SOUND CAPITAL OF THE PHILIPPINES!

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 LINDOL SA CALINOG, ILOILO PHILIPPINES 2012

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[Xelly]

Miss ko na Iloilo guid!!!

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Battle of the sounds in Iloilo Leganes

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[John233]

Mlakas tlaga ang sound sa iloilo pero sabi nga hobby lng nla wla sila kinikita..hehehe china made nga try nyo qsc or crown by harman. Lightweight yan..di na kyo mahirap an mag buhat..heheh

[spacejam]

Kulamg sa lakas Ang qsc and crown amps... Sound quality maganda naman sila pero di sila bagay sa Taga iloiLo ... Kulang sa bigat at diin ang bass nya...

[spacejam]

Battle sa passi Iloilo.
Tinalo ng sound standard Ang big 3 ng Iloilo.

[mants]

Battle sa passi Iloilo.
Tinalo ng sound standard Ang big 3 ng Iloilo.

sir anong mga power amps gamit ng soundstandard at anong mga speaker din gamit nila,,any idea..tnks

[spacejam]

Tsunami speakers and ultimate battle amps ng live sir mants

[mants]

Tsunami speakers and ultimate battle amps ng live sir mants

tnx sir,, kya pla malakas ang soundstandard puro live pla ang gamit nila,,

[wave180]

Kulamg sa lakas Ang qsc and crown amps... Sound quality maganda naman sila pero di sila bagay sa Taga iloiLo ... Kulang sa bigat at diin ang bass nya...

Which QSC and Crown amps? I presume you're talking about entry level QSC and Crown amps.

[spacejam]

Which QSC and Crown amps? I presume you're talking about entry level QSC and Crown amps.

No sir  Kung pansinin nyo sir konti Lang gamagamit ng branded amps sa subs ng mga aga Iloilo... Sa mga hi and mid gumagamit sila ng qsc and crown... Pero pag sa bass...china amps gamit nila. Sa quality and clarity maganda branded amps like qsc and crown amps pero for Iloilo kulang sa punch and laki Ang bass nila...
Heard na from some mobile using crown MA 5002vz sa battle.... Di po pinapansin ng mga tao yun

[d2wrd]

talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering

[barracks01]

iba talaga ang tunog ng branded na amplifier.. tight bass, crisp mid and high.  sa iloilo palakasan ng bass para matumba ang bote   

nung nag setup si walter sa iloilo during asap rocks lahat sila nakanganga,....... jbl line array, crown amps, rcf, venue digital mixer. LED lights

[d2wrd]

iba talaga ang tunog ng branded na amplifier.. tight bass, crisp mid and high.  sa iloilo palakasan ng bass para matumba ang bote   

nung nag setup si walter sa iloilo during asap rocks lahat sila nakanganga,....... jbl line array, crown amps, rcf, venue digital mixer. LED lights

Dun na siguro namulat sa katotohanan sir

[barracks01]

Dun na siguro namulat sa katotohanan sir

+1

set up ka pa naman ng 48 pcs vertec asan ka pa. mga side fill RCF4pro6001, JBL dual subs wapak.

[ermita]

talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering

Cant say that on youtube . Kakatayin ka nila doon   I noticed that quite a few in there cant take constructive critisism once you made a slight negative comment which I think a complete ignorance and arrogance

Heard Crown VZ5000 driving 4 full scoops loaded with Fane1000 with no problem at all (Absoulute chest thumping and trouser flapping) If the VZ5000 cant spank 4 speakers their must be a problem with the sound engineer or technician
Also heard QSC PL9.0 driving 4 scoops (2ohms) on one side PD1850 loaded and thought that was the best Sub I'ved heard from a lightweight amp.

[wave180]

I rather use the tried and tested MA5002VZ than those China (copy cat)  amps. If you can't get good
 results driving subs with that amp, then there's something wrong somewhere from the tech to the sub/s.

After seeing those youtube videos, I found out that they're mostly using those outdated CV folded horns. 

[ermita]

I rather use the tried and tested MA5002VZ than those China (copy cat)  amps. If you can't get good
 results driving subs with that amp, then there's something wrong somewhere from the tech to the sub/s.

After seeing those youtube videos, I found out that they're mostly using those outdated CV folded horns.

Loud, very loud, very very loud,  Yes!... considering the amount of CV horns or boxes in a stack . Those CV horns are loud but not deep enough. A simple reflex box loaded with the same driver will blow it away in terms of deepness and musicality.

Seen a few comment in there about phase cancellation, comb filtering regarding stacking also and I dont think they were happy to know all about it

Honestly,  if they after only loudest, heaviest, deepest and quality at the same time they should consider building proper SUB boxes not BASS boxes (Tapped horn, double reflex or even scoops). Also correct amount of Kick boxes and tops and yes stacking correctly could make a difference too in terms of sound. I think the amount of boxes in use now are really getting OTT. 4 to 6 good sub boxes and with a good kicks and tops loaded properly  is enough to cover a basketball court. And I'm really surprised that hardly anyone use Stereo when stacking considering the amount of boxes

I'm sure theres a better way to settle this Sound off or Battle rather than fetching truck loads of boxes .

By the way I'm from Iloilo also 

[spacejam]

talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering

sir may kasabihan the customer is always right...  yung mga nakikinig ay nag rent sa kanila ng sound system pag may fiesta or birthdays... so kung nagugustuhan nila ang
sounds mo.. tiyak marami ka bookings...

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iba talaga ang tunog ng branded na amplifier.. tight bass, crisp mid and high.  sa iloilo palakasan ng bass para matumba ang bote 

nung nag setup si walter sa iloilo during asap rocks lahat sila nakanganga,....... jbl line array, crown amps, rcf, venue digital mixer. LED lights

sir ganun lang talaga ang mga ilongo... mahilig sa sounds...  pero i dont think "namulat sila sa katotohanan" kasi same pa rin ang gusto nila sounds hangang ngayon... palakasan ng bass... Di sila naghahanap ng deep bass... Gusto nila chest Thumping.. Which causes shortness of breath... Di pwede sa may sakit sa puso  also sa mga main livelihoodcay sa mobile sa Manila? I don't think na kakayanin nyo... Because may fear na masira ear drums nyo. alam naman natin Ang paraan ng Kira sa mobile ay sa sharpness ng hearing natin.
im sure sir i pa battle mo ang LPs 2500 baka wala pa isang oras sira na yun 
pang drive lang nila siguro sa tweeter yan 

[spacejam]

Cant say that on youtube . Kakatayin ka nila doon   I noticed that quite a few in there cant take constructive critisism once you made a slight negative comment which I think a complete ignorance and arrogance

Heard Crown VZ5000 driving 4 full scoops loaded with Fane1000 with no problem at all (Absoulute chest thumping and trouser flapping) If the VZ5000 cant spank 4 speakers their must be a problem with the sound engineer or technician
Also heard QSC PL9.0 driving 4 scoops (2ohms) on one side PD1850 loaded and thought that was the best Sub I'ved heard from a lightweight amp.


sir the reason i think they dont use the branded amps for subs is because they are designed to drive 4" voice coil speakers... if you notice almost all of the branded speakers are 4" voice coil... while in iloilo they are using 5" and 6" voice coil... so it is harder to drive hence the reason why they are using the china amps...
they seldom  use fane, b&c or p.audio... not because of the price tag... because i notice they will buy it if it fits their needs even if it is a little bit expensive. but because it does not produce the sound output they are looking for.

[spacejam]

talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering

 curious Lang ako sir... Sa average na audience sa setup ninyo... Ilan ba ang "non technical" people? Also ano definition nyo na "non technical people"? Kelangan ba may degree po ba sila sa sound engineering? Curious Lang po.

[ermita]

Cant say that on youtube . Kakatayin ka nila doon   I noticed that quite a few in there cant take constructive critisism once you made a slight negative comment which I think a complete ignorance and arrogance

Heard Crown VZ5000 driving 4 full scoops loaded with Fane1000 with no problem at all (Absoulute chest thumping and trouser flapping) If the VZ5000 cant spank 4 speakers their must be a problem with the sound engineer or technician
Also heard QSC PL9.0 driving 4 scoops (2ohms) on one side PD1850 loaded and thought that was the best Sub I'ved heard from a lightweight amp.


sir the reason i think they dont use the branded amps for subs is because they are designed to drive 4" voice coil speakers... if you notice almost all of the branded speakers are 4" voice coil... while in iloilo they are using 5" and 6" voice coil... so it is harder to drive hence the reason why they are using the china amps...
they seldom  use fane, b&c or p.audio... not because of the price tag... because i notice they will buy it if it fits their needs even if it is a little bit expensive. but because it does not produce the sound output they are looking for.

Not denying that some chinese amps are better than some branded amps here .  But for some reason branded amps are only or mostly designed to drive 4" voice coil is not true . The most common drivers I'ved seen branded amps driving are also 5" voice coil (PD1850/51, VOID V1000/1200, Turbomax and Celestion CF18VJD all with real watts ) with no lack in power given the right power supply.

Also noticed the most common type of music being played on this Battle or PAUPAS are hard dance or techno type tunes or remixes (loop type) which I highly doubt that they produce sub 30-40Hz plus content on them.  So yes,  your quite right in saying that they only like chest thumping bass line which are only above Sub frequencies and not real Sub frequencies kasi if they are set for Sub frequencies or Cabs are build for sub duties and playing 30hz + freq I dont think they'll be able to stand right at the very front of a single stack/mini sound let alone on the 16-24 bass cabs. But then again baka nga sanay na talaga ang mga eardrum at dibdib nila .

[barracks01]

sir ganun lang talaga ang mga ilongo... mahilig sa sounds...  pero i dont think "namulat sila sa katotohanan" kasi same pa rin ang gusto nila sounds hangang ngayon... palakasan ng bass... Di sila naghahanap ng deep bass... Gusto nila chest Thumping.. Which causes shortness of breath... Di pwede sa may sakit sa puso  also sa mga main livelihoodcay sa mobile sa Manila? I don't think na kakayanin nyo... Because may fear na masira ear drums nyo. alam naman natin Ang paraan ng Kira sa mobile ay sa sharpness ng hearing natin.
im sure sir i pa battle mo ang LPs 2500 baka wala pa isang oras sira na yun 
pang drive lang nila siguro sa tweeter yan 

i dont think na lahat na ilonggos gusto ng ganyang sounds. mantakin mo gusto mo di ka makahinga, gusto mo sirain eardrum mo. they created noise pollution not a good qaulity sounds. LPS 2500 i pang battle mo lang sirain mo lang ang 17k worth of amp. for a nothing.. they are very rich. 

[spacejam]

Not denying that some chinese amps are better than some branded amps here .  But for some reason branded amps are only or mostly designed to drive 4" voice coil is not true . The most common drivers I'ved seen branded amps driving are also 5" voice coil (PD1850/51, VOID V1000/1200, Turbomax and Celestion CF18VJD all with real watts ) with no lack in power given the right power supply.

Also noticed the most common type of music being played on this Battle or PAUPAS are hard dance or techno type tunes or remixes (loop type) which I highly doubt that they produce sub 30-40Hz plus content on them.  So yes,  your quite right in saying that they only like chest thumping bass line which are only above Sub frequencies and not real Sub frequencies kasi if they are set for Sub frequencies or Cabs are build for sub duties and playing 30hz + freq I dont think they'll be able to stand right at the very front of a single stack/mini sound let alone on the 16-24 bass cabs. But then again baka nga sanay na talaga ang mga eardrum at dibdib nila .

Sir I heard sa abroad especially sa states and Europe. 1 speaker per channel samantalang dito sa battle either 2 pcs speakers per channel or 1 pc speaker per channel pag bridge mode... Tsaka pag sa abroad maingat sila di pinupula ang ilaw ng amp samantalang sa Iloilo ay normal na pulahin Ang ilaw for ilang oras ng amp pag may battle lalo na sa dinagyang.