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Title: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 26, 2007, 12:31:02 AM
I know someone or some people on this forum have tried it out or are currently owning one.

1.  What do you guys think of it?
2.  What set up brought out the best of the ZVEX Box of Rock?
3.  Is it too bassy?
4.  What does it sound like?

I just bought one thats coming this weekend and I just wanted to jump start my experimentation.  I was not really impressed with the ZVEX SHO.    Its Zachary's first Distortion unit, so I thought why not give it try given that it took him this long to come out with a Distortion effects pedal.  So, this is really something that I am willing to gamble US$300 on.

Also, I am excited about the Fulltone GT500 though its suppose to only be shipping out this week in the US.  Just by chance, any PhilAms got to try it out?

Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: vhunter on February 26, 2007, 01:37:09 AM
I hear lots of great things about the box of rock. I'm looking for one as well :) . The fulltone gt500 hasnt shipped. I preordered one about a month ago... hahaha.. theyll inform me as soon as stock gets in.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: eders19 on February 26, 2007, 01:44:12 AM
I know someone or some people on this forum have tried it out or are currently owning one.

1.  What do you guys think of it?
2.  What set up brought out the best of the ZVEX Box of Rock?
3.  Is it too bassy?
4.  What does it sound like?

I just bought one thats coming this weekend and I just wanted to jump start my experimentation.  I was not really impressed with the ZVEX SHO.    Its Zachary's first Distortion unit, so I thought why not give it try given that it took him this long to come out with a Distortion effects pedal.  So, this is really something that I am willing to gamble US$300 on.

Also, I am excited about the Fulltone GT500 though its suppose to only be shipping out this week in the US.  Just by chance, any PhilAms got to try it out?



oas, i wanna ask about the SHO, what didn't you like about it? i'm considering in getting one kasi, not really for  overdrive but simply as a clean boost and a way to split my guitar signal. with those factors that i mentioned, how does it fair? and for the purposes that i mentioned, would you recommend something else?

thanks!  :-D
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: Phil on February 26, 2007, 02:05:49 AM
I know someone or some people on this forum have tried it out or are currently owning one.

1.  What do you guys think of it?
2.  What set up brought out the best of the ZVEX Box of Rock?
3.  Is it too bassy?
4.  What does it sound like?

I just bought one thats coming this weekend and I just wanted to jump start my experimentation.  I was not really impressed with the ZVEX SHO.    Its Zachary's first Distortion unit, so I thought why not give it try given that it took him this long to come out with a Distortion effects pedal.  So, this is really something that I am willing to gamble US$300 on.

Also, I am excited about the Fulltone GT500 though its suppose to only be shipping out this week in the US.  Just by chance, any PhilAms got to try it out?


question dude.... I see you are collection pedals now.  Can't you duplicate those tones that pedals produce using your amps? Why not buy another amp?

As you know...there is nothing like a tone produced by a guitar plugged directly to a tube amp.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: plugzzzz on February 26, 2007, 03:13:12 AM
I know someone or some people on this forum have tried it out or are currently owning one.

1.  What do you guys think of it?
2.  What set up brought out the best of the ZVEX Box of Rock?
3.  Is it too bassy?
4.  What does it sound like?

I just bought one thats coming this weekend and I just wanted to jump start my experimentation.  I was not really impressed with the ZVEX SHO.    Its Zachary's first Distortion unit, so I thought why not give it try given that it took him this long to come out with a Distortion effects pedal.  So, this is really something that I am willing to gamble US$300 on.

Also, I am excited about the Fulltone GT500 though its suppose to only be shipping out this week in the US.  Just by chance, any PhilAms got to try it out?


question dude.... I see you are collection pedals now.  Can't you duplicate those tones that pedals produce using your amps? Why not buy another amp?

As you know...there is nothing like a tone produced by a guitar plugged directly to a tube amp.

i agree with this one :-D di ba kaya ng diesel herbert mo tunog ng box of rock???...
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: tele-tubby on February 26, 2007, 03:18:41 AM
i agree with this one :-D di ba kaya ng diesel herbert mo tunog ng box of rock???...

 :-D
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: psychic_sushi on February 26, 2007, 05:49:54 AM
i agree with this one :-D di ba kaya ng diesel herbert mo tunog ng box of rock???...

 :-D

it's in his fingers, pare  :-D
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: jun_gats on February 26, 2007, 06:08:37 AM
sayang di ako makakapg bigay ng opinion, maganda pa nmn ata mga review dyan   :-D
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: deltaslim on February 26, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
I know someone or some people on this forum have tried it out or are currently owning one.

1.  What do you guys think of it?
2.  What set up brought out the best of the ZVEX Box of Rock?
3.  Is it too bassy?
4.  What does it sound like?

I just bought one thats coming this weekend and I just wanted to jump start my experimentation.  I was not really impressed with the ZVEX SHO.    Its Zachary's first Distortion unit, so I thought why not give it try given that it took him this long to come out with a Distortion effects pedal.  So, this is really something that I am willing to gamble US$300 on.

Also, I am excited about the Fulltone GT500 though its suppose to only be shipping out this week in the US.  Just by chance, any PhilAms got to try it out?


question dude.... I see you are collection pedals now.  Can't you duplicate those tones that pedals produce using your amps? Why not buy another amp?

As you know...there is nothing like a tone produced by a guitar plugged directly to a tube amp.

i agree with this one :-D di ba kaya ng diesel herbert mo tunog ng box of rock???...

I'm waiting for the answer myself cuz this seems to contradict Oas statements in the past...  But seriously, let's wait for his answer as I'm sure it will be interesting if not intriguing.  Baka may matutunan tayong lahat...

Listen up and get educated, PhilMusicians!!!   :-D
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 26, 2007, 09:09:25 AM
I have got three non master volume amps that love pedals and I might be buying a Komet Concorde.  So, need to beef up the pedals.  Its mix and match for me.  Different feel and sound for each set-up but same characteristics.

Dont yet know the sound of the Box of Rock, so I will not yet know if the Herbert can approximate it.  Though lately, I have been tinkering around with the idea of sending the Direct Out of the Herbert into the guitar input of the 1972 Marshall Super Lead.  Different sound raw.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: deltaslim on February 26, 2007, 09:14:16 AM
I have got three non master volume amps that love pedals and I might be buying a Komet Concorde.  So, need to beef up the pedals.  Its mix and match for me.  Different feel and sound for each set-up but same characteristics.

Dont yet know the sound of the Box of Rock, so I will not yet know if the Herbert can approximate it.  Though lately, I have been tinkering around with the idea of sending the Direct Out of the Herbert into the guitar input of the 1972 Marshall Super Lead.  Different sound raw.

Ah, ok.  So you're using the pedals as boost or to gain-stage with the amps?   Welcome to the dark side. :-)

You should get a Klon for some of your modern-voiced  (v-shaped eq) and high-gain amps.  I think swak yun.  Clean boost with a bit of mids bumped -- just right for those kinds of amps (as well as cranked Fender combos)

Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 26, 2007, 09:17:54 AM
The ZVEX SHO did not really add any richness in tone.  It was as if the volume level was adjusted higher.  Just did not excite me.  I want to give ZVEX another chance with a distortion pedal because I am not really into fuzz which he has several pedals.

By the way, it is not my intention to make every piece of gear I have to sound like a Herbert.  This is how I pay for my own education in tone.  Taking risks on boutique pedals and trying out new stuff.  So, its your choice if you want to listen to me.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 26, 2007, 09:22:30 AM
Deltaslim,

I will be honest.  I wish  you kept your Klon.  I want to try it out again on different set ups even though wala akong Fender.  Its just fun to combine different amps, effects with different guitars.  Could lend you some stuff sana so you could gig with it...  Sabihin mo kay Arie dalhin ang COT for you to try out in your upcoming gigs.  Gamit naman yata niya is the modded TS9.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: Bart on February 26, 2007, 09:31:44 AM
I know Pallas is into ZVex. Maybe he can answer.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: deltaslim on February 26, 2007, 10:02:09 AM
Deltaslim,

I will be honest.  I wish  you kept your Klon.  I want to try it out again on different set ups even though wala akong Fender.  Its just fun to combine different amps, effects with different guitars.  Could lend you some stuff sana so you could gig with it...  Sabihin mo kay Arie dalhin ang COT for you to try out in your upcoming gigs.  Gamit naman yata niya is the modded TS9.

I don't regret selling my Klon.  I like to try stuff out but keep only those that eventually proves to be the 'go-to' pedal and actually gets used a lot.  I'm to poor to keep expensive stuff that does one trick on a couple of songs in our entire repertoire.  But you never know till you try, so I often save up to try some of the nice stuff and keep what I really like (but what I like can change too).   Besides, I can get about 70-90% of that Klon 'effect' from my FD2's uncompressed mode or certain settings in the Tim.  As you know, it's the last few percentage points of improvement that's expensive and hard to justify for a player with limited budget.

I've heard the COT na several times at rehearsals. Pati na rin yung Zendrive ni Steve. Pareho namang maganda but they're different animals, and sometimes mapili sa amp (especially pag pangit yung amp).  It's cool to hear the differences between those 2 and my FD2 and Tim.  :-)   Hopefully, with more rehearsals and gigs, mas maging noticeable ang pros and cons ng mga pedals namin -- like a long-running shootout.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: Phil on February 26, 2007, 10:20:33 AM
The ZVEX SHO did not really add any richness in tone.  It was as if the volume level was adjusted higher.  Just did not excite me.  I want to give ZVEX another chance with a distortion pedal because I am not really into fuzz which he has several pedals.

By the way, it is not my intention to make every piece of gear I have to sound like a Herbert.  This is how I pay for my own education in tone.  Taking risks on boutique pedals and trying out new stuff.  So, its your choice if you want to listen to me.
...you need to hook up with rondalla rockstar...if you want boutique..... all his stuff is boutique.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: Bart on February 26, 2007, 10:49:37 AM
I want to get a Tim or a Timmy. It's the four month wait that I can't bear.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: abyssinianson on February 26, 2007, 11:18:39 AM
Heard good things about the Box of Rock and if the workmanship is anything like the other pedals, the BOR should be top notch. I just picked up a Wooly Mammoth and the sound is crazy fat for bass. The cartoony drawing is not as crazy as the other pedals but its all good.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: deltaslim on February 26, 2007, 11:26:05 AM
I want to get a Tim or a Timmy. It's the four month wait that I can't bear.

I say put in you order and forget about it. Before you know it, ayan na!   For the price, sobrang sulit siya, Bart.  Mas mura pa sa TS808 sa local store e.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: stratman1 on February 26, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
The ZVEX SHO did not really add any richness in tone.  It was as if the volume level was adjusted higher.  Just did not excite me.  I want to give ZVEX another chance with a distortion pedal because I am not really into fuzz which he has several pedals.

By the way, it is not my intention to make every piece of gear I have to sound like a Herbert.  This is how I pay for my own education in tone.  Taking risks on boutique pedals and trying out new stuff.  So, its your choice if you want to listen to me.
...you need to hook up with rondalla rockstar...if you want boutique..... all his stuff is boutique.

And an all around great person pa. Ang bait bait pa (sumisipsip para sa Victoria, nyahaha!!!)  :evil: :-D
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: eders19 on February 26, 2007, 03:47:36 PM
The ZVEX SHO did not really add any richness in tone.  It was as if the volume level was adjusted higher.  Just did not excite me.  I want to give ZVEX another chance with a distortion pedal because I am not really into fuzz which he has several pedals.

By the way, it is not my intention to make every piece of gear I have to sound like a Herbert.  This is how I pay for my own education in tone.  Taking risks on boutique pedals and trying out new stuff.  So, its your choice if you want to listen to me.

a okay, did you try using the dual output feature of the SHO? was there any drastic signal loss? with what you said, think i can live with that since i don't want it to color my tone too much (but then again, it's what you're paying for.... i dunno! hahaha!)

if there's anyone other than oas who can give their opinions about the SHO, please post them as well! :-D
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: aya_yuson on February 26, 2007, 04:11:37 PM
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    Quote from: oasgomez on Today at 12:38:03 AM
Skunky,

Pabayaan mo na.  Some guys are really into the digital thing.  Its their loss if they don't get  a chance to experiment because of their ignorance.  One day, somebody who plugs straight will whack them out of their digital existence.  I noticed that sometimes guys do not have enough time to set up and go best with what they are comfortable (<-- with)

lalo na guys with "tone is the hands" type of thinking.  Its sad but at least we get to here

(don't you mean "HEAR"?)

 how bad they sound.

By the way, for the guys who cannot afford, I suggest you save up and stop pitying yourself.  You do not need a tons of amps, guitars and effects.  With only one good sounding guitar, and one good sounding amp and one good souding effect -- You will be at least 70% happy for the rest of your life.  I bet most of the guys who complain that they cannot afford have more than one guitar that they own and several effects. 



Tsk tsk tsk... 'kala ko ba atenista ka, Alex? Tsk tsk tsk tsk....

It's pretty basic grammar and spelling. Guess money can't buy certain things... like brains... or talent... or skill.
 
Tone is in the lola! Sometimes it's also in the pigtails... but mostly it's in the lola.
 c",)
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: aya_yuson on February 26, 2007, 04:12:58 PM
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    Quote from: oasgomez on Today at 01:09:59 AM
Skunky,

A lot of people do hear and non-guitarist (NON-GUITARISTS... plural ang noun/subject mo, Alex ("people") so plural din dapat ang "non-guitarists") at that.  You forget that philmusic is just a microcosm of the world and lots of people outside philmusic know what sounds GOOD they way we know it.  If Wally, Arie, Gabe, and Steve who don't post here can all agree with me that the Diezel sounds killer to the point that 3 out of 4 of them say its the best amp they have heard in their life to date, then we are not alone.  When Wally was playing in that private party, the guy next to us totally noticed the difference moving from a Marshall reissue SLP Head into a Diezel Herbert. (<-- TO, not INTO... i.e., "moving from a Marshall reissue SLP head TO a Diezel Herbert")
When we had our last tone part (<-- don't you mean "PARTY"?)long ago to celebrate a party for one of Arie's kamag anak (correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe this should be hyphenated, as in "KAMAG-ANAK") , the combination of the soldano, vox, bruno and bogner made the guest think it sounded like a CD.  Their ears were as fresh and were so impressed with how the whole thing sounded.  (<--- WHAT THE BLEEPIN' F-WORD KINDA SENTENCE IS THAT?!?!? I don't even know where to begin trying to correct it....  Their ears were as fresh as... WHAT?!? AS FRESH AS WHAT?!?!)
The oldies even commented (THAT) they (THEY'D) never heard electric guitar that sounded so good in their life.   

Besides there are guys who don't like the 6 Underground sound that some people say is great.  The problem is:  THEY JUST DON'T SHOW UP BECAUSE IT SOUNDS BAD.  Besides, why worry about them?  Let them learn the hard way. 


Are you learning the hard way yet, Alex?

If you can't watch your content, at least have the decency to maintain your form!

 
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 26, 2007, 04:33:07 PM
Abyss,

1) What other ZVEX pedels do you recommend?
2) Sino pala ang avatar mo?

Eders,

Try a PM to extreme1699.  I believe he still has his ZVEX SHO.

Delta,

That's best -- a long running shoot out.  Enjoy lang kayo.   COT is very picky.  But with the right combination, the COT just sounds killer in a league of its own. 
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: pallas on February 26, 2007, 06:29:22 PM
I still need to send my zvex BOR back to Zack though. The boost side is pretty a pretty cool feature. I havent tried the SHO but sabi sa site nya its identical BUT less glassy daw ang dating sa boost side ng BOR.

The distortron side ng BOR is where i get all confused. The gain kicks in only around 3:00 on he dial. Ive watched the videos and emailed him back and forth and his decision is to send it back.

The packing was bad though when i recieved it. Nasa plastic lang sya with just the box, rag and the free poster to protect the pedal....and it travelled half the world away....bummer :oops: He didnt ship it though so it aint his fault but his authorized dealers are to blame.

Ive been so busy lately i havent sent the pedal till now.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 26, 2007, 08:37:54 PM
Pallas,

Thanks for the reply.  What amp do you use so I can test it if behaves in the same way this coming weekend?  Correct me if I am wrong, but as I remember you sold your Time Machine Boost to get the Box of Rock?

Where do you reside if I may ask?
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: psychic_sushi on February 26, 2007, 08:56:37 PM
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    Quote from: oasgomez on Today at 01:09:59 AM
Skunky,

A lot of people do hear and non-guitarist (NON-GUITARISTS... plural ang noun/subject mo, Alex ("people") so plural din dapat ang "non-guitarists") at that.  You forget that philmusic is just a microcosm of the world and lots of people outside philmusic know what sounds GOOD they way we know it.  If Wally, Arie, Gabe, and Steve who don't post here can all agree with me that the Diezel sounds killer to the point that 3 out of 4 of them say its the best amp they have heard in their life to date, then we are not alone.  When Wally was playing in that private party, the guy next to us totally noticed the difference moving from a Marshall reissue SLP Head into a Diezel Herbert. (<-- TO, not INTO... i.e., "moving from a Marshall reissue SLP head TO a Diezel Herbert")
When we had our last tone part (<-- don't you mean "PARTY"?)long ago to celebrate a party for one of Arie's kamag anak (correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe this should be hyphenated, as in "KAMAG-ANAK") , the combination of the soldano, vox, bruno and bogner made the guest think it sounded like a CD.  Their ears were as fresh and were so impressed with how the whole thing sounded.  (<--- WHAT THE BLEEPIN' F-WORD KINDA SENTENCE IS THAT?!?!? I don't even know where to begin trying to correct it....  Their ears were as fresh as... WHAT?!? AS FRESH AS WHAT?!?!)
The oldies even commented (THAT) they (THEY'D) never heard electric guitar that sounded so good in their life.   

Besides there are guys who don't like the 6 Underground sound that some people say is great.  The problem is:  THEY JUST DON'T SHOW UP BECAUSE IT SOUNDS BAD.  Besides, why worry about them?  Let them learn the hard way. 


Are you learning the hard way yet, Alex?

If you can't watch your content, at least have the decency to maintain your form!

 

as fresh as a seasoned lola  :-D  :wink:
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: skunkyfunk on February 26, 2007, 09:39:47 PM
I just don't get this "tone is in the lola" idea.  Ako kasi "tone is in the mommy..."  :-D Dunno if I got that right...

Anyway, I think what oasgomez is doing (as I remember it right, sabi niya), "Buy everything and match everything..."

Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: xjepoyx on February 26, 2007, 11:27:07 PM
Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
 
nagpabili ka na naman sa lola mo? direchahan na! kaya nga tone is in the lola diba? alam naman nating lahat na di kaya ng bulsa mo yung gears mo sa pagdedeliver ng mga Instant Mami kaya TONE IS IN THE LOLA!!!!

wow active parin ngayong gabi pala to ah!



wag ka magalala pag na ban ka na in a few hours.... gagawan kita sarili monmg forum!

ang special dun sa forums na yun... IKAW LANG ANG MEMBER!!!!!
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: abyssinianson on February 27, 2007, 01:04:14 AM
Abyss,

1) What other ZVEX pedels do you recommend?
2) Sino pala ang avatar mo?


Oas,
1. some Zvex pedals that I like are the Wooly Mammoth, the Johnny Octave (plus a fuzz of some sort) and the Machine. However, between the Johnny Octave and the Chicago Iron Tyco Brahe (which was what I was looking for), I went with the Chicago Iron because it sounded really gritty very much like an original Octavia, temperamental attitude and all. The Johnny Octave is great too and it has this fuzzy quality that works darn well with fuzz pedals for a very authentic octave but is quite capable of some very warm octave work too. It is probably the best tracking octave pedal I've tried so far short of running my signal through an Eventide Harmonizer.

2.The fine looking woman is Jennifer Morrison from the show House MD. I shuttle my avatars between Jennifer Morrison and Katherine Heigl because I love 'em both. Lots.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 27, 2007, 06:31:27 AM
Abyss,

Thanks. 

Great to hear that you have got a Chicago Iron Tyco Brahe.  Did you get a chance to compare it to the original?
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: markflo on February 27, 2007, 06:37:54 AM
OOOH! i tried that chicago iron octavia! ganda nga yan...

i like the fulltone ultimate octave better though. more pronounced octave.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: PRSMan on February 27, 2007, 07:03:42 AM
To those who are trying to start a fight with oas:

Can you guys quit it?  While I don't approve of what he does a lot of times, what you guys are doing now isn't anywhere near cool either, right?
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 27, 2007, 07:11:40 AM
Aya, Psychic Sushi, Edge of Illusion,

Thanx 4 d editing works.

If Jim Ayson decides to banded me for this forum, I belief its because yur group wants me out. Kasi napipikon kayo.  

Case in point: There is nothing at all on this thread subject that concerns the three of you and yet you try to find fault in grammar and spelling on another thread topic which is not related.

Aya,

I have not done anything to you.  If you feel offended it is purely because we approach issues differently.  


Anton,

You even got a chance to try out my gear and I thought you were cool.  If you want to promote yourself as a tone guru, thats cool but don't do it at my expense.  I do not promote myself as one.  


So, if you guys have not tried out a ZVEX because you cannot afford it, then get out of the thread.  On the other hand, if you guys have tried out or owned a ZVEX then post your experience.  There is more to life than a modded DS1 and a locally made custom guitar.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 27, 2007, 07:19:21 AM
Abyss & Markflo,

Regarding Octavers, there is this new manufacturer -- KR Music -- who claims that he makes actual replicas of the pedals of Jimi.  He also has an octave model.  I wish you guys get a chance to try it out because he does not process orders from Asia.  Since you guys are over there, both of you are definitely in a position to review it.  Also, since I will be banned in a few hours, I hope you get a chance to post your review at some point in time in the future.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: psychic_sushi on February 27, 2007, 08:03:15 AM
Alex,

Nope, I m not promoting myself as a tone guru, nor do i consider myself to be one. I have not made a statement anywhere declaring myself to be one.  What i preach, is music and art.

It was great to try your gear, I'm thankful.

For clarification, "pikon" is not how I feel about this issue. The term I used was "offended". your sweeping statement about "educating" the Philmusic masses on tone was totally out of line. Perhaps I should have dug deeper into what your words truly meant or attempted to convey, as your posts do come off as crass and blunt at the onset, but you stated further that you wanted to be brutally frank. That was my basis.

Doesn't your tone  "crusade" involve personal elevation of some sort? You speak of fine gear, then tell the next person that they cant afford it.

You dropped by Elegee's shop to "teach" him and the peaceful folks there what good tone is.  In what language, or english synonym even, would you like the word "guru" to be applied in?

Alex, rest assured that I will continue no further the cumbersome task of getting across to you (unless provoked). Now that you have reacted to my crazy tirades, I'm glad that you've felt offended (no matter the dosage of the emotion) by my little role in the whole mess.

at least you got a little taste of the offense i felt, and the offense you've caused to many. i hope this was not your first lesson in empathy.

Guys, sorry for the blast, this I had to get off my chest. I've made my point.




Oh, one last thing, about me being "cool"-

I am. I have even defended your cause and persona at times on and off the forum, even in the personal  conversations I have with people. Yes, count BAMF in on my subjectiveness about you. I have acknowledged the merit in the informaion you share with us about fine gear.

The key word here is "offense", Alex.  I will try my utmost not to be (i am very patient, ask all around you who know me), and I really hope you try not to inflict it on others.

Sayang eh, if it weren't for the attitude, you'd legions more thirsty ears waiting for you. ears that wont have to be affected by the bias you seem to instill in their minds.

Back to regular programming... (my apologies again to the folks)
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: psychic_sushi on February 27, 2007, 08:27:24 AM

So, if you guys have not tried out a ZVEX because you cannot afford it, then get out of the thread.  On the other hand, if you guys have tried out or owned a ZVEX then post your experience.  There is more to life than a modded DS1 and a locally made custom guitar.

see what I mean?
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 27, 2007, 09:09:08 AM
Psychic Sushi,

So can you afford it? If you can, what does your post on my grammar from another thread have to do with the topic?

If you cannot afford it, fine.  Just don't mess up the thread for people who have tried it and who bought it and for people who have tried but have NOT decided to buy it.

Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: Poundcake on February 27, 2007, 09:28:50 AM
things are heating up again.. *why can't we be friends, oh why can't we be friends?* hehe :)

i have a question regarding ZVex pedals: do the Vexster and the normal hand-painted versions have exactly the same circuitry/tone? there's a substantial difference in price between the two and if the only difference is the finish, i'd rather get the Vexster version.. :)
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 27, 2007, 09:41:59 AM
Psychic Sushi,

I will not drag ELEGEE into this.  For the record, I did not go there to teach.  The only thing I did was to show Jon what I thought for me was a good sounding guitar.    You were not there for 4 full hours so don't think you know any better.  You also forget that I lauded one of Jon's guitar over the 12 pieces of Gibson USA and Custom Shop crap that I tested in Hong Kong.

That's your problem if you think you don't need an education in tone.  I say it like it is.  Kulang pa tayong Pinoy dito sa Pinas sa exposure sa magagandang gear sa mundo because we cannot afford it.  As I said before, mas suwerte nga ang mga Pinoy sa U.S. in terms of trying out gear and being exposed.
  
Thats why I am excited to hear a Divided by 13 or the New Matchless Independence without having to take the risk of spending a lot of money.

What kind of personal elevation are you talking about?  I have nothing to gain by posting here.  I do not sell anything.  I have no gigs to promote.  Hindo ko nga career ang music.  I have no hidden agenda.   I just say things like it is because I do not like to sugar coat and make everybody just feel good.  I already stated on this forum before that I prefer my Herbert to my SLO which for me is an admission of a mistake.

In terms of affordability, I have always said that you should SAVE for good gear.  Now if you don't want to SAVE for it, then I say you cannot afford it.  If you can afford it but don't like it, thats also cool.  But the reality of the world is that more money buys you better stuff.  Now its up to you to personally assess whether the incremental benefit of the incremental cost is worth it.


Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: jun_gats on February 27, 2007, 09:55:53 AM
guy's peace out. I like this trhread because I'm intrested in zvex to. Hope to read more info about this brand and product line.  
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: abyssinianson on February 27, 2007, 10:03:52 AM
OOOH! i tried that chicago iron octavia! ganda nga yan...

i like the fulltone ultimate octave better though. more pronounced octave.

Yes, I got to try out a Tycho Brahe, expensive as heck but it was hella cool to see what an original sounds like. The Tycho Brahe is a very gritty and lofi-sounding pedal that shines when you use it with a low gain setting, on single coils, especially those microphonic vintage strat pups. The Chicago Iron holds to a tradition of lo-fi vintage-ness that I was looking for and, I believe, it was designed to behave with the same type of temperamental, wacked out octave effect as the original; the pedal has a lot of harmonics that you can really dig into and have fun with.

Mark,
totoo nga na yung Fulltone is much cleaner and, in fact, it was my first choice for an octave pedal until I tried the Chicago Iron. The Chicago Iron suited my playing style much better because I thought the round sound of their Tycho Brahe made my phrases mesh together better. I am very fond of rakes and I have a pretty heavy picking hand which suited the tone of the Chicago Iron Tycho Brehe repro better. Either way, you can't go wrong with either pedal but you do have to try them out just to see which one would sound better with your playing.

I will try and see if they sell KR Music stuff around me. I am always looking for interesting stuff to try.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: pallas on February 27, 2007, 10:07:49 AM
things are heating up again.. *why can't we be friends, oh why can't we be friends?* hehe :)

i have a question regarding ZVex pedals: do the Vexster and the normal hand-painted versions have exactly the same circuitry/tone? there's a substantial difference in price between the two and if the only difference is the finish, i'd rather get the Vexster version.. :)
yup...there are different variations from the vexter BOR and the handpainted ones. The vexter BORs are assembled in Taiwan.  Personally id be happy with the vexters stuff, i wish he had a vexter loop junkie.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: supacow on February 27, 2007, 10:23:03 AM
Im wanting to try that ZVEX mini tube amp!

Any experiences on that?
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 27, 2007, 10:29:06 AM
Phoenix Rising,

I have heard of it but have not tried it.  Maybe the US guys might have tried it out.  I am also interested in the products of Landgraff.  Hope the US guys can share some info on the Landgraff.  For info, John Landgraff and Bob Burt are close.  John also makes amps and Bob does his cabinets I think.

I try to minimize mentioning boutique stuff because a lot of people get "offended".  Until I actually try one out, I really cannot say much because people on the forum might think nagyayabang lang ako.  But very soon, it will not matter anymore because I will be banned.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: markflo on February 27, 2007, 12:44:00 PM
what i heard about the zvex box of rock is that it's a marshall in a box....

BUT...

it sounds the best when used in front of a marshall....


ACHECHE! what's the point?!?!
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on February 27, 2007, 12:59:04 PM
Phoenix Rising,

Try mo rin ang Bumbox baka mas ok pa kasi head talaga at kaunti lang ang upcharge versus the nano.  Hard to say if the tone is great until you try it out on your setup.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: pallas on February 27, 2007, 08:23:27 PM
what i heard about the zvex box of rock is that it's a marshall in a box....

BUT...

it sounds the best when used in front of a marshall....


ACHECHE! what's the point?!?!
sabi daw nila na it retains the marshall sound better than any distortion or overdrive pedal like say an sd1, ds1, eternity, marshall guvnor etc. in your signal
chain.

I ddnt care bout that, all i wanted was a wicked distortion unit with a decent boost on a smaller enclosure.
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: pallas on February 27, 2007, 08:32:18 PM
Im wanting to try that ZVEX mini tube amp!

Any experiences on that?
i wanted that one too pero maingay daw dahil sa internal fan, oh well :wink:
Title: Re: Need Opinions on ZVEX Box of Rock -- I guess this goes out to the US guys
Post by: supacow on February 28, 2007, 05:04:56 PM
Im wanting to try that ZVEX mini tube amp!

Any experiences on that?
i wanted that one too pero maingay daw dahil sa internal fan, oh well :wink:

ooohhh is that so?

hmmm seemed so enticing when i watched a review on it on youtube!

anyway, its just so darn expensive for something so small.

hehe