Cymbal Hardcase thread

[Gep]

May tanong ako sa lahat ng may cymbal case sa inyo:
Paano niyo tinatanggal o binabalik ang cymbals ninyo sa mga cases nang hindi nagagasgasan ng screw yung cymbal holes?

Parang reason din for keyholing yun e.

Ang ginawa ko sa Gator case ko, nilagyan ko ng Gibraltar ng flanged cymbal base protector sa baba para walang metal contact, pero problema ko pa rin ang pagtanggal at pagbalik sa case e. 

[drumster]

I also have the same Gator cymbal case, bro Gep.

What I did is I bought a set of Gibraltar cymbal bases and extra cymbal felts.  I use two cymbal bases on my cases.  One below and one on top, replacing the big washer used for locking the cymbals (with a wingnut).

What you can also do is you can use cymbal sleeves which can fit on the case's center post.

And I take extra precaution whenever I take my cymbals in and out of my hardcase.  Konting ingat na lang.

[Dindin]

And when you're not going to use your cymbals for a long period of time, store them out of the case or lay it down to relieve pressure off the center post...

One of my SKB Roto-X cases has a bent center post because of the weight it carried for a long time now...

[maplesyrup]

cymbal case ko ordinary zildjian case lang eh! kaya wala ako gano maishare sa topic! ehehehehe...nakalagay lang sa case ko 13 na pearlnando piccolo and 18 na crash tsaka sticks. yun lang naman lagi kong dala. 
paminsan pedal, pag tumutgtg sa mayrics,, kasi grabe pedal un! eheheheh! sakit sa paa!yun lang! thank u!

@dindin

musta na? ayyyy dimo nga pala ako kilala... kamusta nlng kela kerwin [pichapie] and roel [pichapie]... tsaka kela bords ng kazee..

[Dindin]

@dindin

musta na? ayyyy dimo nga pala ako kilala... kamusta nlng kela kerwin [pichapie] and roel [chocolate]... tsaka kela bords ng kazee..

Whos dis please?

[Gep]

I also have the same Gator cymbal case, bro Gep.

What I did is I bought a set of Gibraltar cymbal bases and extra cymbal felts.  I use two cymbal bases on my cases.  One below and one on top, replacing the big washer used for locking the cymbals (with a wingnut).

What you can also do is you can use cymbal sleeves which can fit on the case's center post.

And I take extra precaution whenever I take my cymbals in and out of my hardcase.  Konting ingat na lang.

Yup, ganun na rin ang ginawa ko rin yun, gamit ko yung Gibraltar flanged bases.
Pero naisip ko, hindi ko rin nagustuhan ang hard cases sa ilang dahilan:

- madaling mabasa ng ulan
- mas mabigat pa siya sa bag pag binubuhat
- mas matagal ang setup and packing up

Kaya balik na muna ako sa cymbal bag.  

[Akira JUMBO]

@Dindin

Is the SKB Roto X the same as the above aforementioned problems? 

Was planning on getting one and would appreciate the input bro.

[Dindin]

@Dindin

Is the SKB Roto X the same as the above aforementioned problems? 

Was planning on getting one and would appreciate the input bro.

As long as you take good care in storing and taking out/putting in your cymbals in the cases, I believe there will be no problem.

I also had a Gator Rolling Cymbal Case before. The problem I had with it was that it cracked on its first time on a flight out of the Philippines. Also, the pulling handle got bent because it wasn't fully pushed down when it was checked-in.
 
IMO, the SKB Roto-X is more durable than the Gator cases. My old SKB Roto-X Case, is a survivor of  more than a hundred Domestic and International Flights without any damage to the body...

The reason why my SKB Case got a bent center post is because there came a time when I always had 8 or more cymbals stored in the case during gigs. It just couldn't take the weight it carried... But, it's still usable and I use it to store my other cymbals now...

[malambeng25]

gep, yan din ang problema ko sa gator case ko. nilagyan ko na lang muna ng garden hose yung screw sa gitna para walang metal to metal contact, yun yung pinakamurang solusyon na naisip ko e. P11/meter lang. yung isang metro, sobra sobra pa.

tsaka tama ka, mejo matagal magsetup at mabigat nga sya. pero mas protektado nga naman ang cymbals compared to soft cases. siguro, mas agahan na lang natin sa calltime para walang problema at makasetup tayo... hehe!!!

tama rin si bro dindin, sabi rin ni vinci, malambot yung case ng gator compared to the case of skb, mas mabilis daw mag crack.

@ dindin

bro, pano nagcrack yung gator case mo sa biyahe? kase biyahe din kami this weekend, first time kong iba-biyahe yung gator case ko, after reading your post, parang gusto ko na lang iwanan yung cymbals ko...

[Dindin]

@ dindin

bro, pano nagcrack yung gator case mo sa biyahe? kase biyahe din kami this weekend, first time kong iba-biyahe yung gator case ko, after reading your post, parang gusto ko na lang iwanan yung cymbals ko...

Sa US domestic flight siya nagcrack e. Iba talaga maghandle ng baggage yung mga Kano. Tinatapon lang nila parang ewan. Kahit fragile yung gamit, binabalibag pa rin nila.

Kung dito naman sa Pilipinas walang problema. Sabihin mo lang sa check-in counter na may fragile baggage ka. They will let you sign a waiver form, and they'll hand carry it to the baggage loading area para di na dumaan sa conveyor belt. and they'll also make sure that hindi madadaganan ng ibang bagahe. Tadtarin mo na rin ng 'FRAGILE' stickers yung case mo para di nila makalimutan. hehehe

[maplesyrup]

@dindin

jonil... drummer ng maple syrup hawak dati ni kerwin blondie/eminem!ehehehe!
nag ako p.a PNE ng isang araw..(tinry ko lang) sa drums lang ata ako nag focus! ewan ko kun tanda mopa! i think gig nyo yun sa rockwell and sa greenbelt... yun lang!

[Dindin]

@dindin

jonil... drummer ng maple syrup hawak dati ni kerwin blondie/eminem!ehehehe!
nag ako p.a PNE ng isang araw..(tinry ko lang) sa drums lang ata ako nag focus! ewan ko kun tanda mopa! i think gig nyo yun sa rockwell and sa greenbelt... yun lang!

Huy musta!!! Alala kita... Ikaw yung nagsub nang isang araw para sa drumtech ko na si Gilbert nung nagdrums siya para sa 6 cycle...

[drumster]

Yup, ganun na rin ang ginawa ko rin yun, gamit ko yung Gibraltar flanged bases.
Pero naisip ko, hindi ko rin nagustuhan ang hard cases sa ilang dahilan:

- madaling mabasa ng ulan
- mas mabigat pa siya sa bag pag binubuhat
- mas matagal ang setup and packing up

Kaya balik na muna ako sa cymbal bag.   

In general, I favor hardcases because of the kind of protection it can provide to our prized possessions.  I don't have to worry about my gear cases bumping with each other during travel or during those unexpected situations.

Just like my instruments, I also take good care of my cases.  I clean my cases with Armor-All, which also gives them this layer of protection.

The good thing about the Gator case model that I have is it has built-in wheels.  Instead of carrying it, I can just pull it along.  Though at times may mga rough surfaces, napipilitan kaming magbuhat din kasi maingay minsan.

Regarding set-ups and pack-ups... I guess it depends on the person or the situation.  Minsan may mga nagmamadaling umalis ng gig.  Meron namang iba na may p.a. or katulong.  As long as the cymbals are handled with care, no problem.

Sometimes I like the "wearability" and convenience of softcases.  Which is why I'm also considering a cymbal bag, for light duties.  Besides, I don't bring so many cymbals on my gigs.  For my snare drums, I happen to have a hardcase and a bag.  I want to have the same choice for my cymbals. 

As long as you take good care in storing and taking out/putting in your cymbals in the cases, I believe there will be no problem.

I also had a Gator Rolling Cymbal Case before. The problem I had with it was that it cracked on its first time on a flight out of the Philippines. Also, the pulling handle got bent because it wasn't fully pushed down when it was checked-in.
 
IMO, the SKB Roto-X is more durable than the Gator cases. My old SKB Roto-X Case, is a survivor of  more than a hundred Domestic and International Flights without any damage to the body...

The reason why my SKB Case got a bent center post is because there came a time when I always had 8 or more cymbals stored in the case during gigs. It just couldn't take the weight it carried... But, it's still usable and I use it to store my other cymbals now...

The Gator hardcase that I have right now is actually my second Gator hardcase.  I sold my first one so that I can replace it with an SKB Roto-X, so that it would match my snare drum hardcase (yeah OC nga ako hehe).  But Audiophile ran out of stock and didn't have one again in a long time.  Kaya napabalik din ako sa Gator. 

I actually prefer SKB more than Gator.  Mas okay kasi yung quality at subok na talaga.  Their plastic is much better, compared to Gator's, which I find more brittle (translation: more prone to cracks).  I agree with Dindin regarding durability.  Thankfully wala pa namang cracks and damages yung Gator ko.

So, who wants to trade their Roto-X for a Gator Roller Case? 

[maplesyrup]

Huy musta!!! Alala kita... Ikaw yung nagsub nang isang araw para sa drumtech ko na si Gilbert nung nagdrums siya para sa 6 cycle...

oks lang....ikaw? balita kay kerwin? sikat na sikat na banda nya ha! bigtime na! roady nyo parin ba sya? si gilbert ba ung payat? si allan,kerr and roel lang kasi kilala ko sa 1big. kmsta nalang dude sa pne tsaka kamikazee more power! 

[Dindin]

Sayang Anthony! There was somebody selling a brandnew SKB roto x case in the classifieds 2 months ago. Medyo matagal-tagal siya nakapost dun. I was wondering nga why nobody seemed to take interest in it. Binili ko nalang. Hehehe

[malambeng25]

Sa US domestic flight siya nagcrack e. Iba talaga maghandle ng baggage yung mga Kano. Tinatapon lang nila parang ewan. Kahit fragile yung gamit, binabalibag pa rin nila.

Kung dito naman sa Pilipinas walang problema. Sabihin mo lang sa check-in counter na may fragile baggage ka. They will let you sign a waiver form, and they'll hand carry it to the baggage loading area para di na dumaan sa conveyor belt. and they'll also make sure that hindi madadaganan ng ibang bagahe. Tadtarin mo na rin ng 'FRAGILE' stickers yung case mo para di nila makalimutan. hehehe

bro dindin, maraming salamat for the info!!! God Bless and more power!!!

[drumster]

Sayang Anthony! There was somebody selling a brandnew SKB roto x case in the classifieds 2 months ago. Medyo matagal-tagal siya nakapost dun. I was wondering nga why nobody seemed to take interest in it. Binili ko nalang. Hehehe

Oh too bad I missed that one.  Sayang!! 

[drumster]

Paano niyo tinatanggal o binabalik ang cymbals ninyo sa mga cases nang hindi nagagasgasan ng screw yung cymbal holes?

Parang reason din for keyholing yun e.

I was just thinking about this...  And I come to realize that keyholing is more of a long-term effect.  Meaning, if there's too much stress on a cymbal's hole and if we leave it for a long period of time, keyholing will most likely happen.

Keyholing is more common among heavy cymbals, where in their weight will react against cymbal stands when set-up on an angle.

When my cymbals are stored in my cymbal hardcase, I position the hardcase in a vertical manner instead of a horizontal manner, in order to relieve stress from the cymbal holes against the case's center post.  I don't leave my cymbal case standing up.

[grendil8]

guys san po nakakabili ng cymbal hardcase?

[drumster]

^ Audiophile sells SKB and Gator hardcases.

[grendil8]

thanks drumster..

[Ralph_Petrucci]

ser, try nio lagyan ung stacker ng "rubber hose" para maiwasan ung metal contact.

basta the idea is to cover the metal rod sa gitna. parang ung sa mga cymbal stands, meron xang plastic in between felts.

hope this helps

[popsicle]

mga sir...
planning to buy cymbal hardcase...
ang pinagpipilian ko eh ung:

• gator gp-22pe rolling polyethylene cymbal case
  
  VS
  skb-cv24w rolling cymbal vault
  

tsaka

• gator gp-20pe polyethylene cymbal case
  
  VS
  skb-cv8 roto-x cymbal vault
  

ano sa tingin niyo po ang pinaka best buy??? sana matulungan niyo po ako!!! salamat!!! 

tsaka bukod sa audiophile, san pa po may mga retailers ng items na mga 'to???