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Title: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: shred_the_red on December 18, 2006, 06:59:14 PM
Hello Mod and fellow persons,

I need help! I need expert advice as to what gadgets, gears and PCs I need to purchase so I can setup my own home studio recording.

Tips po on softwares and hardwares.

Thanks for supporting a newbie!!

Appreciate your help guys. :lol:
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 19, 2006, 04:18:28 AM
The question is WHATS YOUR BUDGET? heheehe

there are actually several Home DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) setups to choose from depends on type of recording and ofcourse Budget din.

for beginners setup you can get  AMD64 proc, 1gb of ram and a good sound card such as M-Audio or EMU Products.

Maybe enlighten us more on what do you wanna do and whats the budget limit so we can recommend specific products for your needs.



PEACE!

 
 
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: shred_the_red on December 19, 2006, 12:56:37 PM
Wow you guys are really helpful..

I'm really lost as to what the budget is.. perhaps around 20 - 30K.

I'm thinking personal computer; an application that can capture guitar tracks via amp - usb. I have heard of cake walk but I really have not checked the application. Another peripheral in mind is a mixer console (or do I still need one if I have a PC suite application). Do I need to purchase rack mounts peripherals.

Recommendations sir.

Thoughts of a newbie.. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HELPFUL.  :-)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on December 19, 2006, 02:07:10 PM
Bear in mind that for 20 - 30k, computer pa lang yan. If you build it yourself, makakatipid ka and you can use very good components instead of getting unheard of parts when buying a complete package. You might be able to save enough for a good soundcard. Also remember to assemble a pc with an upgrade path in mind. Choose a motherboard that will easily let you go dual or even quad core. For AMD platforms, the 754 and 939 sockets are on the way out with the 478 socket equivalent on the Intel side. Ram is also DDR2 based and is sometimes cheaper than DDR1. Video is unfortunately going pcie, but you can get motherboards with onboard graphics which will ease the cost somewhat; remember, however, that these 'budget' mobos often do not have much in terms of expansion slots so choose wisely. When building a computer based recording studio, always design the computer around the software and soundcard you will use. Research a lot about possible incompatibilities and you will have less headaches.

I seriously doubt you will be able to factor in a mixer with that budget. You can probably go with a firewire mixer but they are expensive locally so try to source them abroad; you can even check the classifieds here for deals on 2nd hand soundcards.. If you choose your soundcard wisely, these often come with "lite" editions of software such as Sonar LE and/or Cubase LE and you can get started with recording almost immediately. If you are given a choice between a P8K soundblaster or M-audio card, I suggest getting the M-Audio since it is more suited to recording and has better converters. You may be tempted to use the cheaper soundblaster and/or generic soundcards, all I can say is... it's your music.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 20, 2006, 12:35:34 AM
The cheapest Firewire Mixer is with Alesis. No need for a sound card you just need a firewire port to plugin the mixer into. The good thing about it is you can simply do Multitrack Recording straight from a mixer w/o going thru an Audio Interface. I myself owns a Alesis Multimix 16 Firewire and a 8 Firewire for my home recording.
(http://www.alesis.com/images/products/full/MultiMix8_large.jpg)
(http://www.alesis.com/images/products/full/MultiMix16_large.jpg)
One more good thing about with my 8 firewire mixer is i can go mobile and do recording outside such as our project during EB's at Purple Haze. Just plugin the mixer to the laptop and WHALAH! Instant Live Multitrack Recording.

There are actually more great firewire mixers such as the one made by M-Audio or Mackie (Onyx Series) but its gonna take alot of breads from your wallet.

Just dont forget to invest on good monitors. there are alot of budget monitors
such as Samson Resolv 40a - Active Monitors - around 7-9k pesos at Audiophile
(http://www.samsontech.com/images/productimages/Resolv_40a-web.jpg)

or the Behringer MS40 - 7.5 at Electronics Depot
(http://www.behringer.com/ms40/MS40_medium.jpg)


Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: Thechief on December 20, 2006, 02:06:50 AM
about the ms40.. its labeled as a multimedia speaker at the behri website... not a studio monitor.. i dont have studio monitors and i havent used the ms40.. is it decent enough for starting out in recording ? sino nakagamit na nito? share naman:-)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 20, 2006, 02:11:23 AM
about the ms40.. its labeled as a multimedia speaker at the behri website... not a studio monitor.. i dont have studio monitors and i havent used the ms40.. is it decent enough for starting out in recording ? sino nakagamit na nito? share naman:-)



i have an ms40 and it works fine. flat naman sya and im actually re-mixing some of my old recordings using ms40. cguro by january ill get a KRK Monitors,

mejo OT
lets take it sa Monitors on a Budget - Link http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,28340.0.html if you have more questions
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: Thechief on December 20, 2006, 02:38:49 AM
ah..ok.. tnks jepoy.. masingit ko lang dito.. may kenwood kasi na amplifier dito sa bahay.. yung pang bahay lang,, yung pang cd player and casette (yung patong-patong, yung uso dati na pambahay na stereo).. ok lang kaya kung yun ang gagamitin ko na amp kung bibili ako ng passive na studio monitors? palagay nio?  :-)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 20, 2006, 02:57:24 AM
as in amp lang? no EQs? kung ganun lang ... yes u can get a passive monitor speakers, dyan lang din ako nag start.


PEACE!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: spazzkid on December 20, 2006, 03:28:01 AM
Wow you guys are really helpful..

I'm really lost as to what the budget is.. perhaps around 20 - 30K.

I'm thinking personal computer; an application that can capture guitar tracks via amp - usb. I have heard of cake walk but I really have not checked the application. Another peripheral in mind is a mixer console (or do I still need one if I have a PC suite application). Do I need to purchase rack mounts peripherals.

Recommendations sir.

Thoughts of a newbie.. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HELPFUL.  :-)


all of them are correct. however here are my 2c on the issue:

you could start off by getting a so-so computer and
1) a good audio interface.. either this 1) http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Audiophile2496-main.html or this2) http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrackPro-main.html
2) a midi controller if you are planning to use synthesizers and soft instruments: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Oxygen8v2-main.html or better yet get one that already has a built in audio interface on it (wich enables you to hook up mics/instruments already... http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MAudioOzone-main.html (if your buying any of these m-audio products bnew, they usually come with ableton live which you can use for sequencing and multitrack recording (but of course you can use these on any recording/sequencing software you wish)
3.) studio monitors (the speakers recommended by these guys are good already) or atleast studio monitoring headphones (good brands on this area are behringer, AKG and senheisser).

happy recording!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: Blueberri on December 20, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
@edgeofillusion-jepoy: Sir, available ba yung alesis mixer na may firewire locally?? saan po??

Thanks!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 20, 2006, 12:18:23 PM
yes its available at Avesco and 5th Ave Store
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: mikep on December 21, 2006, 04:11:22 AM
Don't scrimp on your monitors.  Get real monitors, i.e., KRK, Genelec, Mackie, Samson, etc.  The powered ones are great.  No need to match speakers and amps.  Unreliable monitors will not give you the correct sound you are looking for unless you are very familiar to the sound of that kind of monitor.  Also, never mix using headphones.  The sound you get from headphones do not reflect real life mix situations.  Malilito lang kayo.  Get real studio monitors, and good ones at that.

FWIW
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: geetar_geek79 on December 21, 2006, 04:42:22 AM
I agree with the guy above me.  I used to mix with my logitech speakers.  It sounded good sa PC pero nung patugtugin ko sa car stereo it sounded like crap.   :lol:
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 21, 2006, 04:48:31 AM
@geetar_geek79

that guy above is one of LORDS of Recording/Mixing here in Music Pro he's not just an ordinary guy He is Master Mike Pedero ;)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on December 21, 2006, 05:03:54 AM
In defense of computer speakers, if you're making music intended for playback on computer systems, then it follows that you should mix on those. This is especially important for game music and dialogue, and internet flash presentations since computer audio is often compressed and low resolution. On top of that, computer speakers aren't exactly full range; worse, they have noticeable dips in crossover frequencies as well as a sort of smiley curve eq, often with exaggerated mid bass frequencies - and that's with a good pair of speakers! Now try to imagine mixing for something na tunog lata.

Personally, I mix on several systems: a very good pair of Altecs (ACS500 Dolby Pro Logic), Fostex PM monitors (my main speakers), a single Roland MA-20 for mono compatibility, AKG and Sennheiser headphones when I want to get clinical in identifying a particular problematic frequency, then I burn a rough mix and listen in the car! Mike P. even has a small FM transmitter so he can simulate an FM broadcast and listen thru the car radio or a boombox!

If your mix sound good and balanced across a range of speakers, then you can rest easy that it is mixed right.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: mikep on December 21, 2006, 08:54:28 PM
Jepoy, I beg to disagree.  I am no Lord of mixing or mastering here.  I am just an ordinary guy in search of good sound just like most of us here.  And still pretty much a "student" searching for that perfect mix.  I may know just a bit more because I have been in this world a little bit longer than most.  Aside from that, I am here to learn as well.

FWIW
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on December 21, 2006, 09:08:21 PM
And still pretty much a "student" searching for that perfect mix. 

The perfect mix is a myth, Mike. How many times have you tried to pry yourself from a mix only to have a little voice in your head going, "I should have added about 1 db at 700 hz in the chorus..."  A finished mix? Never gonna happen.  :lol: :lol: :lol: (It's only finished when the producer says so and the clock winds down.)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 21, 2006, 09:35:37 PM
@mikep
Sir kahit ano sabihin nyo your still "the" Mike Pedero

hehehe


PEACE!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: mikep on December 22, 2006, 01:56:38 AM
Correct, Kit.  Just the other nite, I was reviewing the mixes of a supposedly Chritmas gift of my band to friends (it always never reaches the deadline, you know), and yes, I thought, I should've done this, increased the bottom a bit more, etc.  It is suppose to be in the mastering stage, but then, I guess, I have to re-mix two to three songs I thought needed a little it more oomph.  That is the problem with having a studio and being able to redo things anytime you feel like doing it.  It never happens.

Jepoy, thanks for the compliment.

FWIW.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 22, 2006, 02:32:49 AM
NP Master Mike... :D

mejo OT pero may sched na ba workshop? for sure di muna ako mag gaGAS! on gears GAS on more Knowledge muna ako ahihihi



PEACE!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: G5 on December 22, 2006, 08:03:14 AM
Mga masters thank you po sa mga inputs ninyo. I am also planning to get a PC or a Mac (mini) by next year kaya thank you po sa mga points nyo. Oo, nga po pala how about considering a Mac for a DAW? I used to work as a sales rep ng isang Apple store na based sa US. Macmall.com ang name ng site. Most of our customers use the Macs for animation, music, movies, etc... yun nga raw mga gawa ng mga taga-Hollywood Mac yung ginagamit.

Sir MikeP, kelan po ba schedule ng workshop nyo? Andami po kc naghihintay na malaman e. Alam nyo naman pasko andaming GAStosin kaya we'd like to know when para somehow may itatabi kami para dun. Thanks!

Once again thank you po it really helps those who are at the bottom just dreaming of how things are done. Thank you po sa inyong kindness at generosity. You guys rock! I admire your passion for music and humility.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: shred_the_red on December 22, 2006, 11:40:36 AM
Thank you senseis for the mind-blowing, too-much-information, enlightening walk through the home recording stuff. I'll sum all up and try to build my studio in about 3 months. (the time it takes to raise the monies required is tantamount to the number of benefactors I'll get READ: DAD AND MOM and my so-so paying day job) :)

Thanks for the tips. Hope to hear more. I'll be dropping by Filinvest to check out behringer. Good start.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on December 22, 2006, 11:41:54 AM
G5,

Work with whatever platform you are more comfortable with. Both are capable for music production but bear in mind that a Mac is more expensive than a PC in terms of comparable cpu power. Software should also be a main consideration on the platform you wish to use because there are some soft that are platform exclusive.

Btw, the Mac ended up being used in a lot of studios and production houses simply because it was the first to do so and users disliked changing to another platform. It's somewhat ironic to note that a lot of the audio, midi and video software on the Mac today got their start from another platform. For example, Cubase was originally an Atari app that was ported over to the Mac. IMO, it doesn't matter which platform you prefer as long as it performs in the way you want it to. A word of advise on the mini, though, you might find it slow for some processing-heavy applications and it also has limited expandability options, most important being it is not multi-core capable. Better that you get a full-fledged desktop that will allow you to upgrade and add components over time.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 23, 2006, 05:09:18 AM
And still pretty much a "student" searching for that perfect mix. 

The perfect mix is a myth, Mike. How many times have you tried to pry yourself from a mix only to have a little voice in your head going, "I should have added about 1 db at 700 hz in the chorus..."  A finished mix? Never gonna happen.  :lol: :lol: :lol: (It's only finished when the producer says so and the clock winds down.)

uu nga noh?!... 3 days ago pa to pero ngayong lang nag sink in sakin to boss kit.

like pag sinabi sakin ni Rodel(band leader ng eDGe) "panalo na yan" kesa lang ako hihinto pero pag wala na sila sa tabi ko kumakalikot parin ako hehehe.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 23, 2006, 05:13:03 AM

Thanks for the tips. Hope to hear more. I'll be dropping by Filinvest to check out behringer. Good start.

My Suggestion is go build your DAW first before buying any other gears. After w/c then thats the time you can acquire all necessary audio equipments ;)


PEACE!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: smarty on December 23, 2006, 05:32:28 PM
pag me firewire mixer tulad nung alesis, kelangan ko pa ba ng separate na soundcard sa computer? paano nga pala yung connection ng mixer sa pc? pc ko ngaun is pentium 4 with 768 ram and 40 gig HD.

by february kasi am planning to get either a delta 1010 or a firewire mixer 8 channel lang siguro tulad nung alesis. kelangan ko ba nung 2 items or either of them pwede na sa recording?

 
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on December 23, 2006, 05:57:59 PM
pag me firewire mixer tulad nung alesis, kelangan ko pa ba ng separate na soundcard sa computer? paano nga pala yung connection ng mixer sa pc? pc ko ngaun is pentium 4 with 768 ram and 40 gig HD.


No need for separate soundcard because the mixer IS the soundcard. All it takes is a simple firewire cable. Just be sure your pc has a firewire port. If not, look for a pci-based firewire card, preferably based on a Texas Instruments chipset.

Btw, I highly suggest upping your ram and hard drive; ang bilis makaubos ng HD space ang mga wav files.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: smarty on December 23, 2006, 06:22:57 PM
sir kitc pwede na kaya yung addl na 80gig HD and about 1k total na ram?

Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on December 23, 2006, 08:35:08 PM
I think you mean 1 gig of ram, which is fine.

An additional 80 gig HD is good, but I also suggest adding a dvd or cd burner for archiving purposes. It's now too easy to fill up HD space. I bought a 160 gig HD last year and if I didn't recently buy a dvd burner, yikes! It's ironic that the dvd burner I just bought cost half of what I bought my cd burner 3 yrs ago...  :|
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: nichteque on December 25, 2006, 11:35:26 PM
eh ser yung 2.4ghz na CPU okay na? medyo talo kasi sa budget, memory lang at hd ang kaya kong iupgrade ngayon, tapos bibili pa ako ng ozone at ng monitors. yung 768 ko gagawin kong 1gig. ayus na kaya yun for starters? :)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: edgarthewalrus on December 25, 2006, 11:56:57 PM
ok na yan for starters.. ako nga i'm using 1.7G intel s478 640mb ram.. 40G app and 40G data hdd.. ok naman sa akin.. i'm just recording demos on my DAW.. i am maxing out whatever i got and if i don't, i won't finish anything  :-)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: redcomet_m on December 26, 2006, 03:00:09 PM
jeez the alesis firewire MM8 is 33k!!!
putris :)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 26, 2006, 04:03:34 PM
jeez the alesis firewire MM8 is 33k!!!
putris :)


hahaha i got my alesis 8 fw for $163usd only and my 16fw for $350usd only hehhhe
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on December 26, 2006, 04:36:09 PM
jeez the alesis firewire MM8 is 33k!!!
putris :)


Typical...

100% usually ang markup sa electronic items dito.   :x

Kay Jepoy na tayo!  :-D
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: Phil on December 27, 2006, 02:17:38 AM
..so happy...I have my new cpu. duo core, 2Gb RAM, 500Gb storage....yahooo.!!!! my Sonar 6 performs like its on crack....speed. :-D
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on December 27, 2006, 10:39:11 PM
nice! phil!

intayin ko na lang quad core bago ako gas up ng daw uli hehehe
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 12, 2007, 04:19:56 PM
please...

try to comment, ive recorded my friends guitar playing and vox with his gf...

sweete nga nila eh, habang kumakanta...hehe

i wanna know if nag grow ako sa recording, mastering, etc...

OUT OF MY LEAGUE

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=593798

enjoy!!!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: xjepoyx on November 12, 2007, 05:04:51 PM
please...

try to comment, ive recorded my friends guitar playing and vox with his gf...

sweete nga nila eh, habang kumakanta...hehe

i wanna know if nag grow ako sa recording, mastering, etc...

OUT OF MY LEAGUE

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=593798

enjoy!!!

good take...

but im not into too much reverb especially if its acoustic recording.

how did you mike your guitars?

you should have use a hiss reduction for the hiss on the background of the vocals.

is that you singin? nice voice bro :)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 13, 2007, 03:29:24 AM
jeps...hnd ako un. friend ko un. cia din nag guitar.

sumobra ba ung reverb!?

hehe...cge. bawasan ko.

tnx!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on January 31, 2008, 02:41:23 AM
i got a new record.

with my friends on,

keyboard
vocals

i did the mastering and mixing.

http://profile.imeem.com/_Yc6DxR/music/5UjhTAMf/aeces_heavenmp3/

HEAVEN

enjoy!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: LouieAzcona on February 01, 2008, 06:22:16 AM
punta ka RAON!!!  :-D

halos lahat ng kailangan mo sa isang basic na setup nandoon.

odiba parang tula?
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: LouieAzcona on February 01, 2008, 05:12:45 PM
i got a new record.

with my friends on,

keyboard
vocals

i did the mastering and mixing.

http://profile.imeem.com/_Yc6DxR/music/5UjhTAMf/aeces_heavenmp3/

HEAVEN

enjoy!

dami mong kaibigan na maganda  boses ah
ay ikaw pala yung isa! haha

may comment lang ako sa piano.

i assumed lang na gusto mo palitawin na acoustic ung tunog
hindi ko lang alam kung anong words ang gagamitin, para bang bitin ung tunog.
ewan, sustain ba tawag dun? nakakabitin lang.

pero ung kabuuan, parang kyla eh. enjoy parin.  :-D


Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on February 01, 2008, 05:36:56 PM
@tam - your singer is a bit flat in some places. Either retrack/overdub the vocal or run it through autotune, melodyne, or v-vocal. Sorry... that's what I hear.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on February 02, 2008, 02:23:53 AM
@tam - your singer is a bit flat in some places. Either retrack/overdub the vocal or run it through autotune, melodyne, or v-vocal. Sorry... that's what I hear.

kitC -

tnx.

ill recheck.

will the autotune make the voice sound artificial?

Louie -

kawai keyboard. bitin nga sa sustain noh!? ganun ung keyboard eh. pag di mo pindut wala na.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on February 02, 2008, 04:57:47 AM
nag record ako kanina, para mawala yung lungkot ko.

nawalan kasi ako ng kaibigan...

http://profile.imeem.com/_Yc6DxR/music/dMSA8y6n/tammp3/

enjoy lang.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: LouieAzcona on February 02, 2008, 10:16:32 AM
kitC -

tnx.

ill recheck.

will the autotune make the voice sound artificial?

Louie -

kawai keyboard. bitin nga sa sustain noh!? ganun ung keyboard eh. pag di mo pindut wala na.

aray. pero hindi ba pwede kabitan ng pedal yan? kasi may casio dito. may pedal dati, eh naupuan ng paa ng malaking upuan ung cable kaya nasira din. eh hindi na din naman ako mahilig magkeyboards kaya ayos lang. try mo, baka pwede bilhan ng pedal.

natry ko na magauto tune din. V-VOCALS sa sonar 6 ung gamit ko. hindi xa magtutunog artifial, kung titipirin mo lang ung pag-gamit. kumbaga, ung mga off lang talaga ang gagalawin mo ng mano mano. para kang magtatanggal ng kuto. haha.

goodluck.
at sorry tungkol sa kaibigan mo.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on February 02, 2008, 12:13:40 PM
@tam_guitar - I just read about your friend in Anything Goes. Being a frustrated pilot myself, I completely understand her passion for flying.

(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/53000138.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939847EC77F5F8D1CE647C10E86E82FBF9A40A659CEC4C8CB6)

My deepest sympathies on your loss.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on February 02, 2008, 12:49:56 PM
KitC

Salamat po.

im really sad and down right now.

pero with pipol like you and PhilMusic

i feel the urge to move on, and continue life,

despite of the loss

Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on February 08, 2008, 03:12:07 AM
ung mga nag ho-home recording dyan...

pag may natapos kau share nyo ha!

 :lol: para masaya tau lahat!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 06, 2008, 10:41:17 AM
Halo!!!

guys, nag record kami kagabi sa ToneQuest Studio, si kuya Riki nag assist sa amin...siya na din nag mix at edit.

ito ung mga product.

Sayang
http://www.imeem.com/dlsa/music/DVY9LSG7/tears_of_raven_sayang/

Ala-Ala
http://www.imeem.com/dlsa/music/BvcEzx5y/tears_of_raven_alaala/


sana, gaya po ng dati, pwede po i-pa-critic?

sir, KitC at Jepoy  :lol: pati narin po ung iba...labas nyo sama ng loob nyo, hehe


3am na kami natapos, 9pm start namin.

pag puyat na, hirap marinig ung mga flaws...
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: alien_inside on November 07, 2008, 01:33:51 AM
>>TAM GUITAR: Ask ko lang sir if FINAL na yung mga yun?
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on November 07, 2008, 08:40:59 AM
sir, KitC at Jepoy  :lol: pati narin po ung iba...labas nyo sama ng loob nyo, hehe

Takot lang namin mag comment...  :lol:

I'll be blunt, however... the mixes still need some work, IMO. Hard to judge imeem file clarity, though. Sounds like a definite loss of high end in their file compression.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 08, 2008, 12:45:52 AM
Takot lang namin mag comment...  :lol:

I'll be blunt, however... the mixes still need some work, IMO. Hard to judge imeem file clarity, though. Sounds like a definite loss of high end in their file compression.


KitC, yes, i have notice the loss of clarity. anyways, this was mixed using nuendo and with some VST pugins.

i was watching "kuya" while he was editing. hiya ako mag suggest eh, 2am na kasi nun, baka pagod na siya.

..and its been 5 hrs, wala na kami cash for excess hrs kaya we have to stop afer 5 hrs of recording and editing.

butas ang bulsa  :-(

>>TAM GUITAR: Ask ko lang sir if FINAL na yung mga yun?


unfortunately, yes, its final...we paid 4k for 2 songs.

we did the recording for fun though  :lol:



Thanks sa replies KitC and Alien
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: alien_inside on November 08, 2008, 03:13:40 AM
just like MOD KITC said, <" Takot lang namin mag comment...  cheesy ">... ako din. pero i agree  <" the mixes still need some work, IMO. " >. . .  even though without thinking of the  LOSS... i'm not that PRO but i think, it really need maybe not SOME... but MORE... kasi, nasa multitrack ang problem... = hanggang diyan na lang comment ko po... takot na me talaga...
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: alien_inside on November 08, 2008, 03:20:00 AM
and maybe we need a few sheets of CUE SHEETS for our comments...

like this...

------00:00...00:10...00:20...00:00...
Tr1--comment...comment...comment...
Tr2--comment...comment...comment...
Tr3--comment...comment...comment...
Tr4--comment...comment...comment...
etc...

sila na lang... baka magalit si "kuya" sa akin... pero inisip ko rin baka pagod na siya... and you were also running out of cash...

sorry po... tao lang...


edited:
ALIEN LANG....
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: bryanarzaga on November 08, 2008, 08:47:50 AM
Halo!!!

guys, nag record kami kagabi sa ToneQuest Studio, si kuya Riki nag assist sa amin...siya na din nag mix at edit.

ito ung mga product.

Sayang
http://www.imeem.com/dlsa/music/DVY9LSG7/tears_of_raven_sayang/

Ala-Ala
http://www.imeem.com/dlsa/music/BvcEzx5y/tears_of_raven_alaala/


sana, gaya po ng dati, pwede po i-pa-critic?

sir, KitC at Jepoy  :lol: pati narin po ung iba...labas nyo sama ng loob nyo, hehe


3am na kami natapos, 9pm start namin.

pag puyat na, hirap marinig ung mga flaws...

hello tam is this final? just wondering
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 08, 2008, 09:10:20 AM
hello tam is this final? just wondering

straight answer, YES ^_^

4k lang kaya budget namin, beyond that, we cannot provide...

so with 2 hours of recording (1 hour for the vocal)
and 3 hours for editing (2 for the vocal)

this is final  :-D
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: alien_inside on November 08, 2008, 10:48:14 AM
I think you need another hour for remixing... prepare your cue sheets na lang para mapabilis, kasi from there, you know where to cure... :-(
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 16, 2008, 09:26:18 PM
I think you need another hour for remixing... prepare your cue sheets na lang para mapabilis, kasi from there, you know where to cure... :-(

no money na bro eh  :-(

hirap mag hanap ng bread eh pag wala work
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: alien_inside on November 16, 2008, 09:49:46 PM
no money na bro eh  :-(

hirap mag hanap ng bread eh pag wala work

share mo yung tracks.... baka may gusto dito mag-remix.......fro FREE he he..
ako, ok lang.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: BALDO on November 17, 2008, 12:32:50 AM
sige pag me time ako at kapag NAGUSTUHAN ko..FREE.. maybe either Dec o Jan pa ako libre kasi me tinatapos pa akong double album  :oops:..that is kung hindi ka nagmamadali.. 8-)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 21, 2008, 12:14:56 PM
sige pag me time ako at kapag NAGUSTUHAN ko..FREE.. maybe either Dec o Jan pa ako libre kasi me tinatapos pa akong double album  :oops:..that is kung hindi ka nagmamadali.. 8-)

pano ko bigay sau tracks?
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: jv21 on November 21, 2008, 04:41:15 PM
ganda ng mga kanta nyo tam.. :) fave ko yung "sayang". nice solo din. kasama nyo ba si jimi dyan?

anyway, nakakapressure mag-record pag per hour. mas maganda pa din pag per song para walang hassle and pressure. hehe.


Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 22, 2008, 05:04:47 AM
ganda ng mga kanta nyo tam.. :) fave ko yung "sayang". nice solo din. kasama nyo ba si jimi dyan?

anyway, nakakapressure mag-record pag per hour. mas maganda pa din pag per song para walang hassle and pressure. hehe.




uu kasama si jim, bass cia

cia din nag compose nung 2 song

hehe...mahal nga lang  :-(
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: bryanarzaga on November 22, 2008, 06:29:10 AM
straight answer, YES ^_^

4k lang kaya budget namin, beyond that, we cannot provide...

so with 2 hours of recording (1 hour for the vocal)
and 3 hours for editing (2 for the vocal)

this is final  :-D

i would focus more on the end product rather than watching that clock..-totally not about you tam, it would be nice if we focus more in providing a good service to our customers
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: gutz_3110 on November 22, 2008, 01:30:37 PM

for beginners setup you can get  AMD64 proc, 1gb of ram and a good sound card such as M-Audio or EMU Products.
 

hi bro,

soundcard you're referring to is the regular souncard found in the PC? for example i'll replace the creative soundblaster with EMU or M Audio Soundcards? tama ba? magkaiba ba performance ng mga yan compared sa regular soundcards ng PC?
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: bryanarzaga on November 22, 2008, 01:52:14 PM
hi bro,

soundcard you're referring to is the regular souncard found in the PC? for example i'll replace the creative soundblaster with EMU or M Audio Soundcards? tama ba? magkaiba ba performance ng mga yan compared sa regular soundcards ng PC?

way better than your stock cards
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: gutz_3110 on November 22, 2008, 06:38:19 PM
ok i got it. akala ko kasi additional soundcard pa yung M Audio at EMU aside from the one installed in the PC. so ipon ipon muna pala para mag upgrade ng soundcard hehehe thanks bry!
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 24, 2008, 08:50:47 AM
i would focus more on the end product rather than watching that clock..-totally not about you tam, it would be nice if we focus more in providing a good service to our customers

actually we did not E.Q. anyting...

we have no time...

saka, i think he used VST compressor almost sa lahat ng tracks.

Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on November 24, 2008, 09:23:18 AM
saka, i think he used VST compressor almost sa lahat ng tracks.

 :-o
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: BALDO on November 24, 2008, 11:51:07 AM
pano ko bigay sau tracks?
sa gmail puwede..kahit na ganito lang
stereo tracks= drums
mono= bass tracks L channel
stereo =synths (kung meron)
stereo =guitars
mono= vocals R channel
 8-)
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: tam_guitar on November 25, 2008, 03:10:44 AM
:-o

oh!? wat happen sir KitC?
may masama ba ako nasabi  :? ? 

sa gmail puwede..kahit na ganito lang
stereo tracks= drums
mono= bass tracks L channel
stereo =synths (kung meron)
stereo =guitars
mono= vocals R channel
 8-)

ok. sana makuha ko sa kanya this week.
Title: Re: Home Recording Stuff
Post by: KitC on November 25, 2008, 09:43:55 AM
oh!? wat happen sir KitC?
may masama ba ako nasabi  :? ? 

Not really, pero having a compressor on ALL tracks immediately sends me warning signals. Too much compression robs a track of breathing space. The immediate benefit is usually a louder track but if all tracks have compression, then everything is loud - not a sign of a good mix.