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Tech Forums => PC Tech => Topic started by: Isulong Seoph on August 23, 2006, 12:21:26 AM
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AMD or Intel Pentium?
and why? :?:
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AMD ? ala lang mainstream kc intel eh eheheh
. mas mabili yung Athlon 63 3000+ soc 939 ko sa intel P4 3 GHz HT ko dati kaya ko ni dispose yun eh hehehe
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ako intel interms of processing speed... superior ang athlon pag dating sa games pero kung chech nyo bench markings ng dalawa angat intel interms of application especially for audio, video in short multimedia... lalu na rendering processes... kaya sagot ko dipende sa needs ng tao... hehehe
up!
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Although AMD ang system ko ngayon, I'm planning on building a new DAW based on the Intel Core Duo. All performance indicators point to Conroe and Woodcrest systems as being the best in terms of performance.
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i think intel's 630 model can do the job specially with its 2MB cache... medyo mahal ang conroe eh... at mababa ang benchmarks hehehe... or pwede ka mag 940... kasi you will not really see that much difference with a dual core... like what i said with my other posts if ever someone was reading that... nasa architecture ng software ng windows ang problema hehehe...Ü
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i think intel's 630 model can do the job specially with its 2MB cache... medyo mahal ang conroe eh... at mababa ang benchmarks hehehe...
dude, just because mababa ang cpu speed ng conroe doesn't mean it has low performance. bumabawi ang conroe sa memory performance and it's beating AM2s and the older X2s quite easily (check Toms hardware and Anandtech). IMO, I wouldn't go 630, 820 or 9-series DC simply because of their heat output which for me translates to wasted energy (and high electrical bills). Here (http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm) are some benchmarks of cpu wrt audio workstation performance. The guy who performed these benchmarks is an avid AMD enthusiast; even he now supports Conroe.
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KitC ? ayaw mo na mag X2 ? ehehehe may nakita ako mura 8)
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KitC ? ayaw mo na mag X2 ? ehehehe may nakita ako mura 8)
San? tipidpc? monitor ko mga presyo dun. :wink:
nanghihinayang lang ako sa 3200+ Venice ko. kabibili ko lang mga Nov, last yr, ngayon kasing halaga nya ang X2 3800+ kung may maabutan pa akong stocks. I saw this site (http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=73727) on how to upgrade from single to dual core without a re-install of windows. Sana bumaba pa ang 4400+ - yan ang best price/performance ratio tapos tig 1M ang L2 cache nya.
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AMD instead. :D
too bad apple decided to choose intel :(
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too bad apple decided to choose intel :(
Did you see their new G5 MacPro (http://www.apple.com/macpro/)? Two dual core Xeons and up to 2 TB of storage? :shock:
Can't wait for the AMD quad cores to come out.
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too bad apple decided to choose intel :(
Did you see their new G5 MacPro (http://www.apple.com/macpro/)? Two dual core Xeons and up to 2 TB of storage? :shock:
Can't wait for the AMD quad cores to come out.
yeah... we'll just have to wait for that... AMD quad core? that would be super... :D
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AMD! Mura na, mabilis pa! Hehehehe.
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AMD! Mura na, mabilis pa! Hehehehe.
Tama!! :D
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am no fanboy kung sino yung mura tas mas okay yung performance doon ako.
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am no fanboy kung sino yung mura tas mas okay yung performance doon ako.
hehe. That's the reason I went amd in the first place. Secondly, my present system was running circles around a similar spec P4.
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AMD
mas mganda kc pwede m overclocking
tsaka ms mbilis sepron pg n set up ng maayos
besides mahal and intel eh
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am no fanboy kung sino yung mura tas mas okay yung performance doon ako.
hehe. That's the reason I went amd in the first place. Secondly, my present system was running circles around a similar spec P4.
Exactly! All others, being equal, a 1.53MHz Athlon XP1800+ can easily outperform a 2.0-2.4 MHz Pentium 4 back then. Tanda na pala ng PC ko. Mapalitan na nga...
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Exactly! All others, being equal, a 1.53MHz Athlon XP1800+ can easily outperform a 2.0-2.4 MHz Pentium 4 back then. Tanda na pala ng PC ko. Mapalitan na nga...
aus ganito din desktop ko eh... tapos nung bumili ko laptop.. nag Turion ako hehehe :D
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AMD - performance and price wise.
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My personal computer is powered by Intel P4HT. Planning to purchase an Intel Pentium Dual Core.
Pero dati akong naka-AMD, less maintenance.
Still benchmarking kung ano ang mas maganda.
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My personal computer is powered by Intel P4HT. Planning to purchase an Intel Pentium Dual Core.
Pero dati akong naka-AMD, less maintenance.
Still benchmarking kung ano ang mas maganda.
check mo chart toms hardwares
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/21/cpu_charts_summer_2006/
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My current PC AMD, less ang power consumption.
:-)
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My current PC AMD, less ang power consumption.
:-)
Paano mong nasabing mas less ang power consumption?
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My current PC AMD, less ang power consumption.
:-)
Paano mong nasabing mas less ang power consumption?
Nabasa ko sa isang article ng PC World Local Version di ko na matandaan kung anong month and year., Meron silang benchmark na ginawa between Athlon 64 at Intel Dual Core processor. Sa 100% power consumption ng Intel, almost 40% lang ang AMD.
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1st pc ko Intel p133... alang enta(DEAD)
2nd AMD duron 700- 2magal 4years(DEAD)
3rd P4HT3.0-1024-radeon9250(128) ok pa naman ginagamit pang type
4th Hp Pavillion dv5254e core duo 1.6 1024 nvidia geforce 7400 - astig na astig mahal na mahal ko to.....
depende sa time kung maganda ung sa AMD noon dun ako tapos ngaun ung sa Intel Core Duo... dun aq :D
bsta maganda at price worthy dun aq
pero.... I love Intels Core Duo!! hahaha laos na nga eh meron na core duo2 :D hahah at... I hate mac mahal eh kahit intel
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Naka-gamit na ako finally ng PC na Intel Duo. Di ako bumilib. Ganon pa rin, nacho-choke agad. Pero limitation siguro talaga ng Windows yon. Sana yung Windows Vista mas magaling mag manage ng applications.
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Depende sa application. Kung ang app or game na ginamit mo hindi written specifically to use both cores, parating isang core lang ang gamit mo (set core priority in Task Manager). Wala ka talagang makikitang performance benefit sa dual core proc unless may multi-processing capability ang application mo.
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Wow. Pati dito pala may Intel vs. AMD thread. :lol:
Currently, naka AMD Athlon64 3000+ Venice core ako. However, I'll be building a new rig soon (not mine) based on the Intel Core 2 Duo. Para at least, there'll be one unit here that can easily handle Windows Vista if necessary.
As things are going right now, in the big picture, while it might provide more headroom for overclocking, lower CPU power consumption is a bit moot since succeeding generations of GPU's are requiring more and more power.
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Anyone who can give update about the processor design of the two??
Kasi nung lumabas ang Athlon 64, naglabas ang Intel ng panlaban nila, nakakadescourage nga e kasi dalawang prescott processor lang na pinag-pair unlike sa Athlon talagang designed na one processor to have much power.
:-)
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AMD won the battle of the 64-bit processors with it's Athlon 64's a few years ago.
However, the latest victory belongs to Intel with it's Conroe/Duo 2 Core processor (dual-core) which beat the counterpart X2 hands down.
Presently, AMD is hard at work with it's quad-core design. Maybe they can put one over Intel again with this. Then again, who's gonna need a quad-core processor in the near future? That can probably be answered as Windows Vista matures in the market.
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too bad apple decided to choose intel :(
Did you see their new G5 MacPro (http://www.apple.com/macpro/)? Two dual core Xeons and up to 2 TB of storage? :shock:
Can't wait for the AMD quad cores to come out.
w0w!!! AMD quad cores!!! nalito 2loi aq kung ano pag-iipunan ko... bass b o PC??? :lol:
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My personal computer is powered by Intel P4HT. Planning to purchase an Intel Pentium Dual Core.
Pero dati akong naka-AMD, less maintenance.
Still benchmarking kung ano ang mas maganda.
check mo chart toms hardwares
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/21/cpu_charts_summer_2006/
tomshardware is PRO Intel.
i dont recommend bechmarking in that site
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My personal computer is powered by Intel P4HT. Planning to purchase an Intel Pentium Dual Core.
Pero dati akong naka-AMD, less maintenance.
Still benchmarking kung ano ang mas maganda.
check mo chart toms hardwares
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/08/21/cpu_charts_summer_2006/
tomshardware is PRO Intel.
i dont recommend bechmarking in that site
check mo un mga benchmark charts makikita mo doon kung pro intel sila LoL makikita mo doon na nilalampaso ng AMD un Intel noong bagong labas lang un AMD 64
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well, no one said the bias was enough to blatantly rig benchmarks in favor of one manufacturer. besides, no amount of tom's bias could hide the fact that the Athlon 64 was way ahead of the pack back then. same thing for AMD fanboys with Conroe today.
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w0w!!! AMD quad cores!!! nalito 2loi aq kung ano pag-iipunan ko... bass b o PC??? :lol:
Bass ka na lang dude! 5 years down the road, ano sa tingin mo ang magagamit mo pa?
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w0w!!! AMD quad cores!!! nalito 2loi aq kung ano pag-iipunan ko... bass b o PC??? :lol:
Bass ka na lang dude! 5 years down the road, ano sa tingin mo ang magagamit mo pa?
+1 parekoy! sawa na ako sa PC upgrading kasi napakabilis na ng technology development ngayon to the point na kunyari kakabili mo lang ng top-of-the-line processor, etc. after a few months may mas mabilis na. kaya ako mid-spec na lang lagi ang PC, ayoko na gumastos ng sobra para sa graphics, processing, etc.
GAS na lang! haha! :evil:
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w0w!!! AMD quad cores!!! nalito 2loi aq kung ano pag-iipunan ko... bass b o PC??? :lol:
Bass ka na lang dude! 5 years down the road, ano sa tingin mo ang magagamit mo pa?
+1 parekoy! sawa na ako sa PC upgrading kasi napakabilis na ng technology development ngayon to the point na kunyari kakabili mo lang ng top-of-the-line processor, etc. after a few months may mas mabilis na. kaya ako mid-spec na lang lagi ang PC, ayoko na gumastos ng sobra para sa graphics, processing, etc.
GAS na lang! haha! :evil:
hahaha mukhang ako nga din eh tama na sa pc upgrades mayat maya daming bago. ram na lang cguro uupgrade ko next time for now GAS na lang sa home recording ko :)
PEACE!!
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ano ang hierarchy sa AMD and Pentium when it comes to power and performance?
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ano ang hierarchy sa AMD and Pentium when it comes to power and performance?
i think application-specific sya dude.. as far as games go, AMD smokes Intel. it's very competitive in the other benchmarks.
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as far as games go, AMD smokes Intel.
i haven't seen it for myself, pero ibang usapan na yata yung X2 vs C2D kahit sa games.
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haha! this is like Nokia vs Sonyericsson.. nyway, i go for AMD in terms of processing, gaming, multimedia and price but still, it depends on the need... :-)
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AMD ok sa games hehehehehe......
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fanboyisucks go for your needs yeah!
Gaming=AMD
Multitasking=Intel
this two big processor companies are my friends haha.. nag aagawan sila ng crown :-D
as of now, i want a Core2Duo Desktop because I'm not on too much gaming, I'm more on multitasking :-D
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so whats good for digital recording ?
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so whats good for digital recording ?
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
The use of an Intel Core 2 Duo Processor allows your CPU to run simultaneous seperate threads of software with ease. Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs include features crucial for optimum digital signal processing performance, including:
Intel® Wide Dynamic Execution - enabling more instructions per clock cycle to improve execution time and energy efficiency
Intel® Intelligent Power Capability - delivering more energy-efficient performance
Intel® Smart Memory Access - optimizing the use of available data bandwidth
Intel® Advanced Smart Cache - providing a higher-performance, more efficient cache subsystem, optimized for multi-core and dual-core processing
Intel® Advanced Digital Media Boost - accelerating a broad range of applications, including digital video, digital audio, image manipulation, photo processing, encryption, financial, engineering, and scientific applications
check mo link
http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/std/sku=digital_home_system.html
:)
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Either will do. It's the soundcard that's important for recording.
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Either will do. It's the soundcard that's important for recording.
pero pareng Kit...my soundcard is super stock ...I am using a TASCAM US224...so I'm not using the soundcard....and in the long run I will be upgrading to a higher TASCAM model.....the 8 track with digital LCD and stuff. So I really don't need a nice soundcard..since my monitors is also plugged to the TASCAM.....right?
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pero pareng Kit...my soundcard is super stock ...I am using a TASCAM US224...so I'm not using the soundcard....and in the long run I will be upgrading to a higher TASCAM model.....the 8 track with digital LCD and stuff. So I really don't need a nice soundcard..since my monitors is also plugged to the TASCAM.....right?
Well, Phil, the 224 is your soundcard. I guess I should really be saying audio interface, right? Naging generic term na kasi ang soundcard. The thing with newer technologies, though, is that they also force you to upgrade other parts of gear/recording chain. More tracks will mean bigger and faster hard disks, faster cpus and more ram. While it doesn't matter much if you're only tracking, it does when you're going completely virtual like no more hardware synths, samplers, and effects. When everything is "in-the-box", that's when the need for raw power surfaces.
Even then, having the most powerful computer is useless when the soundcard/audio interface and DAW software is the weakest link in your recording chain. In hindsight then, it doesn't really matter if you're using an AMD or Intel platform. What matters is how well it integrates with your software and audio interface of choice.
(8-track Tascam, Phil? Getting the FW-1082?)
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pero pareng Kit...my soundcard is super stock ...I am using a TASCAM US224...so I'm not using the soundcard....and in the long run I will be upgrading to a higher TASCAM model.....the 8 track with digital LCD and stuff. So I really don't need a nice soundcard..since my monitors is also plugged to the TASCAM.....right?
Well, Phil, the 224 is your soundcard. I guess I should really be saying audio interface, right? Naging generic term na kasi ang soundcard. The thing with newer technologies, though, is that they also force you to upgrade other parts of gear/recording chain. More tracks will mean bigger and faster hard disks, faster cpus and more ram. While it doesn't matter much if you're only tracking, it does when you're going completely virtual like no more hardware synths, samplers, and effects. When everything is "in-the-box", that's when the need for raw power surfaces.
Even then, having the most powerful computer is useless when the soundcard/audio interface and DAW software is the weakest link in your recording chain. In hindsight then, it doesn't really matter if you're using an AMD or Intel platform. What matters is how well it integrates with your software and audio interface of choice.
(8-track Tascam, Phil? Getting the FW-1082?)
YES...thats the one...very affordable.
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-TAS-FW1082--brand-265--src-Y0604OV0OVERTURE.html
...pero Kit, I need a powerful computer too right?... to handle my recording software...and so far the TASCAM and Sonar software combo works really good...plus I'm more familiar with it. although I get some Latency problems.....I can work around it though by minimizing the number of tracks. I hate it when I have a lot of tracks and everything doesn't fit in the monitor...have to scroll down.....hate that....even viewing it in "console"...still doesn't fit.
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...pero Kit, I need a powerful computer too right?... to handle my recording software...and so far the TASCAM and Sonar software combo works really good...plus I'm more familiar with it. although I get some Latency problems.....I can work around it though by minimizing the number of tracks. I hate it when I have a lot of tracks and everything doesn't fit in the monitor...have to scroll down.....hate that....even viewing it in "console"...still doesn't fit.
Yes, you will need one. The way software and recording gear is getting more complicated these days, it follows that your PC has to be powerful just to be able to work comfortably. Minimum spec just doesn't cut it anymore unless you want to work at a snail's pace. If you are going to upgrade your PC today, the king of the computing hill are the Intel Core 2 Duos. Be prepared for quad cores since they've just been released last Nov. and if you got a mobo that supports 4-core, you are just going to be amazed. One thing you should be prepared for, though, is that dual monitor setups are beginning to be the norm for DAWs. You can work comfortably with one monitor, but having 2 allows you to view the track and mixer view at the same time making it easier to track and mix.
Ganda ng 1082! And it's quite affordable. Unfortunately, it costs twice here! :evil: I'd be happy even with just a Faderport. :|
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how do you setup duo monitors?
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how do you setup duo monitors?
First of all, your video card needs to support it. Not a problem nowadays since most video cards seem to have dual outputs at least. Even my humble Radeon 9550 has both a VGA and DVI out. then it's just a matter of getting the proper monitors and hooking them up to the vidcard. Install monitor drivers, if needed, set your desired resolution, designate a primary and secondary screen and you're done!
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how do you setup duo monitors?
like this ba? (http://www.mypcmadness.com/gallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=221&g2_serialNumber=2)
sa display properties click advance tapos meron dun display option na naman either span horizontally or extented monitor lang
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nice setup pare.. too bad retired PC enthusiast na ako, i'm happy na with a good processor with lots of hard disk space and RAM. i'm planning to buy a new PC paglabas ng Vista though :)
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I bought my AMD Athlon K7 noong 1998...so I really need to upgrade.
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ang alam ko ang AMD ang nauna sa 64bit platform, the current dual-core standard of almost all new pc's and mac's out there :-)