Author Topic: METRONOME/CLICK TRACK thread (Read 36554 times)

bugoy_king · « **Reply #50 on:** April 03, 2007, 04:20:28 PM »

Quote from: jeva on April 02, 2007, 11:54:56 PM

How about adaptability to noise. Like maririnig mo ba sya while playing?

Also the quality of sound beats or click, napapalitan ba un? Hindi ba masakit pakinggan ung tunog n clicks? alin ang mas maganda ang click sa dalawa?

Meron kc ung BOSS DR90, voice counting, kaya lng malaki n ang price difference pag un.

Adaptability to noise - several factors are involved; the volume of the clicks of the metronome, the type of head/earphones that you use, and how loud the band setup is. You can lessen the outside noise by getting something like a Vic Firth isolation headphone which cuts a significant amount of decibel level, allowing you to clearly hear the clicks of the metronome.

Meron dapat several choices sa type ng click sound na gusto mo (meron yung parang "thud" na medyo bass yung dating; meron yung high-pitched click; others even have a voice counting - which for me is very annoying

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The advantage going for the Click Station is the vibrate feature. Let's say talagang maingay ang banda niyo. Switch to vibrate mode and "feel" the clicks rather than hearing them.

Opinyon ko lang yan pare, na kung konti lang talaga yung difference, go for the Click Station.

jeva · « **Reply #51 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:46:30 PM »

Quote from: bugoy_king on April 03, 2007, 04:20:28 PM

Opinyon ko lang yan pare, na kung konti lang talaga yung difference, go for the Click Station.

Yun din nasa isip ko, worry ko nga lang kung kaya nya sabayan yung ingay ng drums.

Features wise, alin mas lamang sa TAMA at YAMAHA? Incomplete info ung Tama site.

E quality wise, meaning matibay ba? Which has a better beep/click sound?

Now, Im using a triple flange ear plug, gamit to sa construction work site, hehehe. Nasa magkano kaya yung Vic Firth Isolation headphone? Kina kabit ba yun sa iba pang gadget like regular headphone? Sorry, di ko pa kc nareresearch ung VF. Later gawin ko.

Akira JUMBO · « **Reply #52 on:** April 03, 2007, 08:21:09 PM »

available ba yang Tama and Yamaha metro's dito? How much?

IMHO annoying sobra yung voice counting

..I've used one before and pangasar talaga yung babae

..sana nagtatagalog sya mas aliw pa siguro!

jeva · « **Reply #53 on:** April 03, 2007, 09:34:11 PM »

di ko sure yung yamaha, pero ung tama, available sya, check Audiophlie website...

bugoy_king · « **Reply #54 on:** April 03, 2007, 10:16:21 PM »

Quote from: jeva on April 03, 2007, 07:46:30 PM

Quote from: bugoy_king on April 03, 2007, 04:20:28 PM
Opinyon ko lang yan pare, na kung konti lang talaga yung difference, go for the Click Station.

Yun din nasa isip ko, worry ko nga lang kung kaya nya sabayan yung ingay ng drums.

Features wise, alin mas lamang sa TAMA at YAMAHA? Incomplete info ung Tama site.

E quality wise, meaning matibay ba? Which has a better beep/click sound?

Now, Im using a triple flange ear plug, gamit to sa construction work site, hehehe. Nasa magkano kaya yung Vic Firth Isolation headphone? Kina kabit ba yun sa iba pang gadget like regular headphone? Sorry, di ko pa kc nareresearch ung VF. Later gawin ko.

Features wise, I believe mas lamang yung Click Station. Quality wise (in terms of durability), I don't know which is more durable. Quality wise (sounds), I believe mas lamang din yung Click Station.

Yung Vic Firth Isolation headphone, may wire na yun para ikabit mo sa metronome mo, pero yung outer design niya is parang yung ear muffler na ginagamit ng mga nasa firing range. Again, I don't know how much, but you can check sites like musiciansfriend.com to get an idea.

jeva · « **Reply #55 on:** April 03, 2007, 10:33:53 PM »

Quote from: bugoy_king on April 03, 2007, 10:16:21 PM

Features wise, I believe mas lamang yung Click Station. Quality wise (in terms of durability), I don't know which is more durable. Quality wise (sounds), I believe mas lamang din yung Click Station.

Yung Vic Firth Isolation headphone, may wire na yun para ikabit mo sa metronome mo, pero yung outer design niya is parang yung ear muffler na ginagamit ng mga nasa firing range. Again, I don't know how much, but you can check sites like musiciansfriend.com to get an idea.

Thanks for the info on sound quality. Isa un sa mga factor na hanap ko,because I've heard some metronomes give you annoying beep or click.

I compared the two since I commonly see TAMA at different YouTube videos, even Jason Bittner (SP) uses that.

Keep it coming guys, If you know other brands that has the same features like this two, then give me an info. So far, mahirap humanap ng magandang review sa metronome...

bugoy_king · « **Reply #56 on:** April 03, 2007, 10:43:55 PM »

Bittner will of course use it because he endorses the Tama brand. Even his pedals and hardware are all Tama.

I own the Boss DB-88, which in my opinion is better than the Tama one except for the fact that you can program only up to 8 settings (Tama has 20, yung Yamaha Click Station mga 80+ ata). Dami features like time signature division (kunwari 5/4, pwede mo i-divide into 3s and 2s), loop function (automatically switches to the next programmed setting after a certain number of bars), tuner, 3 "click sounds", etc.

Kaya ko sinabi mas maganda yung Click Station, kasi yung features ng Boss na wala sa Tama, meron sa Yamaha, tapos dinagdagan pa!

peeves24 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:02:32 PM »

ang mahal ng metronome choices ah...why not get a drum machine instead? pareho na price halos e hehehe. at least sa drum machine, hindi lang puro tick ang maririnig mo kasi may tunay na drum beats sya. pwede mo ring gawing decoder ng notation, kung may hindi ka maintindihan na notation, e di iprogram mo. its a very good practice partner and training tool.

personally, i use a zoom b2 (nagpapagangap na bassist din kasi ako) pero di sya programmable

i also would like to add that loud metronomes are very irritating (at least i do find them very irritating). i plug ordinary earphones to the zoom b2 and then put on kyk construction ear muffs (80 pesos at any big hardware store) over the earphones so i can set the tick volume to a minimum.

vic firth feels much better than kyk but sound isolation is the same.

jeva · « **Reply #58 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:18:25 PM »

Quote from: peeves24 on April 03, 2007, 11:02:32 PM

ang mahal ng metronome choices ah...why not get a drum machine instead?

vic firth feels much better than kyk but sound isolation is the same.

wow. Salamat sir. Yun pala nakalimutan ko itanong, ano ba yung drum machine? Lagi ko nakakalimutan itanong yun, is that really comparable to metronomes?

Nakakapili din ba kung anong time signature at pwede ba na mastore yung songs.

I remember before, I say a Zoom on sale, used, but due to my ignorance in DM, i never asked the price. di ko pa na research. eto sya : Zoom RT123 Rhythm Trak Drum Machine

Sir pa advise on it features as compared sa metronome n pinost ko.

jeva · « **Reply #59 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:29:38 PM »

Quote from: bugoy_king on April 03, 2007, 10:43:55 PM

Bittner will of course use it because he endorses the Tama brand. Even his pedals and hardware are all Tama.

Di ko alam un, hehe

Quote from: bugoy_king on April 03, 2007, 10:43:55 PM

Dami features like time signature division (kunwari 5/4, pwede mo i-divide into 3s and 2s), loop function (automatically switches to the next programmed setting after a certain number of bars), tuner, 3 "click sounds", etc.

Sir di ko pa alam yan, wala talaga ako alam sa music. pwede pa explain?

peeves24 · « **Reply #60 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:33:30 PM »

ay di pa ko nakakita nung zoom rt123 na yun. sa magazine lang

mas marami syempre features ang drum machine kesa sa pinaka magandang metronome. yung time signature changes kaya naman yun nga metronome choices mo at lalong kaya ng drum machines yun. its a "nice to have" feature but as you progress in practicing with a metronome, you'd find that you dont really need it later on.

IMO, just look for a metronome/drum machine with a tap tempo button (it will help you figure out the tempo of a beat) and a headphone jack as they are the most basic and most used features.

jeva · « **Reply #61 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:37:48 PM »

Quote from: peeves24 on April 03, 2007, 11:33:30 PM

IMO, just look for a metronome/drum machine with a tap tempo button (it will help you figure out the tempo of a beat) and a headphone jack as they are the most basic and most used features.

Salamat sir, you saved me from getting either of the two. I was thinking, because I was just looking at its features just now,I guess pwede ko aralin yung mga grooves n installed na sa kanya, right? That will give me an idea on what grooves to learn.

You really are a treasure here in this forum... hehehe.... your level is rightfully yours.... Philmusicus Addictus
SALAMAT ULIT!

peeves24 · « **Reply #62 on:** April 03, 2007, 11:46:58 PM »

dennis chambers buys every new drum machine and practices with it...

worked for him, why not for us right?

thank you for the kind words but i dont deserve to be 'Addictus' as im more of 'Tambay-nivore sa Opis-nensis'. i have lots of time to check for new posts and put my unsolicited 2 centavos

bugoy_king · « **Reply #63 on:** April 04, 2007, 12:38:57 AM »

Sir di ko pa alam yan, wala talaga ako alam sa music. pwede pa explain?
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I think there's a thread regarding odd time signatures. Search mo nalang. At least mas complete yung mga explanation doon

bugoy_king · « **Reply #64 on:** April 04, 2007, 12:42:30 AM »

Quote from: peeves24 on April 03, 2007, 11:02:32 PM

ang mahal ng metronome choices ah...why not get a drum machine instead? pareho na price halos e hehehe. at least sa drum machine, hindi lang puro tick ang maririnig mo kasi may tunay na drum beats sya. pwede mo ring gawing decoder ng notation, kung may hindi ka maintindihan na notation, e di iprogram mo. its a very good practice partner and training tool.

personally, i use a zoom b2 (nagpapagangap na bassist din kasi ako) pero di sya programmable

i also would like to add that loud metronomes are very irritating (at least i do find them very irritating). i plug ordinary earphones to the zoom b2 and then put on kyk construction ear muffs (80 pesos at any big hardware store) over the earphones so i can set the tick volume to a minimum.

vic firth feels much better than kyk but sound isolation is the same.

Personally, I find drum machines to be too bulky to be carrying around. Pero kung sa bahay or studio lang, it might be beneficial.

How much is a drum machine? May drum machine ba na kasing presyo ng metronomes? Yung mga nakita ko mga nasa upwards of $300 ang range

jeva · « **Reply #65 on:** April 04, 2007, 12:45:40 AM »

Quote from: bugoy_king on April 04, 2007, 12:42:30 AM

Personally, I find drum machines to be too bulky to be carrying around. Pero kung sa bahay or studio lang, it might be beneficial.

How much is a drum machine? May drum machine ba na kasing presyo ng metronomes? Yung mga nakita ko mga nasa upwards of $300 ang range

7.5-8K yata dito. ZOOM 223. and yes pambahay lng, kc amateur lng ako. Drumming is some sort of a hobby for me. Di kc pwed n mag drawing, time consuming..... baka hindi n ko matulog...

Akira JUMBO · « **Reply #66 on:** April 04, 2007, 03:14:36 AM »

san available yung zoom sir?

panterica · « **Reply #67 on:** April 04, 2007, 07:24:11 AM »

I got a Tama RW105 so I would go for the Tama, di ko pa natry yung metronomes ng yamaha eh.

never_1007 · « **Reply #68 on:** October 15, 2007, 08:52:25 AM »

ask ko lang po, kasi pag nagjajam kame gumagamit me ng metro, sakit ko kasi na paggaling me ng rolling pagbalik ko sa poste, nawawala me sa metro sabi ng kabanda ko, so inadvise nila na gumamit nga me ng metro. ang problema, nalilito ako? ano ba ito, dahil ba sa bago lang ako sa paggamit ng metro o talagang bopols lang ako.. hehehe.. advisable ba na gumamit ng metro during ng tugtugan? advise naman po oh.. waaaaah... frustrate akoh......

jeff_proX40 · « **Reply #69 on:** October 15, 2007, 09:13:34 AM »

di naman siguro noh. kelangan lang talaga palabasin mo yung inner metronome mo. yung tipong natural na sayo ang magbilang kahit na kung ano ano ang ginagawa ng mga kabanda mo. and practice ka ng mga off beat na palo. Eto example.

H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H
B B B B B B
S S S S

never_1007 · « **Reply #70 on:** October 15, 2007, 09:34:17 AM »

salamat talaga.... super sensitive kasi nila sa metro...? kahit n sa palagay ko sila ang nawawala sa bilang kasi nasa akin ung beat di ba, so ang tendency sila dapat ang sumunod sa ken..? hehehe.. joke.. di ko na lang pinapansin un eh.. there's a lot of place pa naman sa ken for improvement...!!! tnx talaga sir.. mwah..

BirjandBOGGS · « **Reply #71 on:** October 15, 2007, 09:50:40 AM »

Tma si kapatid kelangan mo sanayin sarili lo para madevelop yung internal clock mo. mag metro ka pag nag eensayo ka. mahirap sa umpisa kasi talagang minsan mauuna ka or mahuhuli pero tao lang naman tayo hindi tayo makina. basta dikitan mo yung metro as much as possible.PRACTISE lang bro and make sure naddidinig mo yung metronome mo kahit maglakas ka...

never_1007 · « **Reply #72 on:** October 15, 2007, 10:11:26 AM »

is it true..
waah.. sir boggs.. kaw di ba ung drummer ni nina.. tnx talaga.. idol...
yaan mu.. sisimulan ko na naun.. salamat talaga sir boggz.. sana mamit kita minsan... kelan kaya un? hehehe..

reueldrums · « **Reply #73 on:** October 15, 2007, 10:56:54 AM »

bro kahit basics lang basta try using metronome pagnageensayo ka.... sakit lahat ng frummer yan...di ka nagiisa.... lalo na ung paggumagawa ka ng fill, metronome yan tapos try counting while doing a fill para di bumibilis....bro walang kwenta kung kahit gaano kaganda ung fill kung wala naman sa tiempo.. KAYA mu YAN!!

stilljey · « **Reply #74 on:** October 15, 2007, 04:09:07 PM »

Quote from: never_1007 on October 15, 2007, 08:52:25 AM

dahil ba sa bago lang ako sa paggamit ng metro o talagang bopols lang ako.. hehehe.. advisable ba na gumamit ng metro during ng tugtugan? advise naman po oh.. waaaaah... frustrate akoh......

hanggat maari ay hindi, gamitin mo lang yan sa personal solo practice mo, ang problema ng mga baguhang drummer ay di consistent sa speed, kapag ensayo na ng banda ay nauuna sya or naiiwan, malaking tulong din yang metronome para madevelop yung timing mo.

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