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Offline chromeknive

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #325 on: September 23, 2009, 12:38:56 AM »
I do acoustic consultations also, design or supervision.  Just holler and we'll schedule a meet up so I can assess your situation.  Thanks for the interest.

awesome! hehe. i've been wanting to ask you sa totoo lang. i just mustered up the guts now. yehey. will email you nalang po. thanks so much! :-)

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #326 on: December 13, 2009, 09:03:22 PM »
for metal framing and insulation materials you can call mike ramos of ppr light steel framing system
at 641-9635.

They manufacture the metal frames for drywall themselves, gypsum boards, accessesories are also available there

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #327 on: January 08, 2010, 01:41:24 AM »
mga sir, question lang.  :mrgreen:

pahaba kasi ung apartment ko, pag pasok mo ng pinto may maliit na sala, may 2 same size na kwarto tapos may space sa dulo, tapos andun ung pinto ng cr. ("x" ung entrance ng apartment )
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ang plano ko aalisin ko ung isang kwarto, tas ung isa gagawin kong vocal/drum booth.

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ang tanong ko ay kung ok lang ba na ung booth lang ung naka sound proof tas ung labas hindi na?  :?
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #328 on: January 08, 2010, 02:04:05 AM »
mga sir, question lang.  :mrgreen:

pahaba kasi ung apartment ko, pag pasok mo ng pinto may maliit na sala, may 2 same size na kwarto tapos may space sa dulo, tapos andun ung pinto ng cr. ("x" ung entrance ng apartment )
 ______
|___   |
|     |  |
|___|  |
|     |  |
|___|  |
|        |
|_x___|

ang plano ko aalisin ko ung isang kwarto, tas ung isa gagawin kong vocal/drum booth.

 ______
|___   |
|     |  |
|___|  |
|        |
|        |
|        |
|_x___|

ang tanong ko ay kung ok lang ba na ung booth lang ung naka sound proof tas ung labas hindi na?  :?

JUST LIKE MINE.... BOOTH lang ang totally soundproofed... Control room is not that seriously soundproofed...kasi di naman mareklamo ang mga kapitbahay ko eh... enjoy nga sila eh... akoyataayalien....
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #329 on: January 08, 2010, 02:18:15 AM »
JUST LIKE MINE.... BOOTH lang ang totally soundproofed... Control room is not that seriously soundproofed...kasi di naman mareklamo ang mga kapitbahay ko eh... enjoy nga sila eh... akoyataayalien....

haha mga kainuman ko din mga kapit bahay ko kaya maiintindihan naman siguro nila (hopefully).
pero sir, di na gano rinig ung music(ingay) pag sa labas ng bahay nio?
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #330 on: January 08, 2010, 03:36:26 PM »
@akoyatasiemil: depende yan sa gusto mo.

if all you need is noise reduction, then soundproofing the *tracking room* may suffice.

but if you want to monitor/mix, acoustically treating both rooms--tracking and control--is also important.

remember: soundproofing is different from acoustic treatment.

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #331 on: January 28, 2010, 01:37:00 AM »
my booth is soundproofed, but not much acoustically treated... my control room is not that soundproof, but acoustically treated...
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« Reply #332 on: January 28, 2010, 09:03:29 PM »
my booth is soundproofed, but not much acoustically treated... my control room is not that soundproof, but acoustically treated...
sir panu po pang kakasoundproof nyo sa booth nyo 99% po ba na walang lumalabas na tunog?tnx

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« Reply #333 on: January 29, 2010, 08:16:28 AM »
sir panu po pang kakasoundproof nyo sa booth nyo 99% po ba na walang lumalabas na tunog?tnx
meron pa rin. kasi bale total of 4 layers ng gypsum board lang ginamit ko. = 1/2inch plywd+2 gyp+2 inch rockwool+2 gyp+1/4inch plywd. sa DOOR nagli-leak yung sound tsaka sa view window. pero konting konti lang.... enough for me as isolation yung booth ko.
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #334 on: January 29, 2010, 03:32:15 PM »
meron pa rin. kasi bale total of 4 layers ng gypsum board lang ginamit ko. = 1/2inch plywd+2 gyp+2 inch rockwool+2 gyp+1/4inch plywd. sa DOOR nagli-leak yung sound tsaka sa view window. pero konting konti lang.... enough for me as isolation yung booth ko.

sir yung sa booth po na yun nagrerecord din po ba kayo ng drums dun, sa door po anu pong ginawa nyong soundproof double door din po ba kayo sir?tnx

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« Reply #335 on: January 29, 2010, 11:06:09 PM »
sir yung sa booth po na yun nagrerecord din po ba kayo ng drums dun, sa door po anu pong ginawa nyong soundproof double door din po ba kayo sir?tnx
yes. same booth. pag LIVE recording, yung DRUMS lang ang nasa booth.
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #336 on: January 29, 2010, 11:42:14 PM »
yes. same booth. pag LIVE recording, yung DRUMS lang ang nasa booth.

sa door at studio window anu pong soundproof ang ginawa nyo sir?

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« Reply #337 on: January 29, 2010, 11:52:47 PM »
sa door at studio window anu pong soundproof ang ginawa nyo sir?
door is ply wood. four layer. 1/2inh(2layer)+rockwool+1/2inch(2layer)ala pambili solid door eh. all aound is gypsum and rockwool.
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« Reply #338 on: February 03, 2010, 01:46:45 PM »

Need some help mga bro, panu ba ma-minimize ang reverb time? kasi our church is sounding like a Cathedral, uber kasi ang reverb sa loob. especialy kapag praise and worship, di na audible ang mga words ng singers, though were minimizing the sound of our instruments upstage and wedge monitors as well, kaso un mga ministers upstage naman ang nag susuffer, di sila magkaintindihan.

Need some advise mga sir.

eto po church namin.


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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #339 on: February 05, 2010, 11:53:25 PM »
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« Reply #340 on: February 06, 2010, 07:45:06 AM »
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bro, you need someone for an OCCULAR checkup first. and let his EARS suggest what is best for you.
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #341 on: February 06, 2010, 03:16:01 PM »
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You need diffusers in the side, absorbers and diffusers in the back, diffusers and absorbers in the ceiling.  It is a rather complicated process if you want to do it right.  There is no way you can DIY.  As it is a big hall, a church at that (sayang and pera pag-nagkamali), you cannot commit mistakes.  Have an expert do it.

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #342 on: February 06, 2010, 03:49:41 PM »
You need diffusers in the side, absorbers and diffusers in the back, diffusers and absorbers in the ceiling.  It is a rather complicated process if you want to do it right.  There is no way you can DIY.  As it is a big hall, a church at that (sayang and pera pag-nagkamali), you cannot commit mistakes.  Have an expert do it.

FWIW
YOU WILL NEED A LOT OF ROCKWOOLS
as i can see it, the WIDE-ANGLE lens of the camera makes the hall LARGER...hehe...
(OT: sir were you at the studio when GLASSPOINT recorded their single? )
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #343 on: February 08, 2010, 11:26:37 PM »
thanks sir mikep and alien_inside,


any contacts mga sirs? para maisama nadin sa budget,


thanks.


update lang po pala, nilagay namin sa backstage un drums,. malaking bawas ingay sa stage, :)
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« Reply #344 on: February 08, 2010, 11:44:40 PM »
thanks sir mikep and alien_inside,


any contacts mga sirs? para maisama nadin sa budget,


thanks.


update lang po pala, nilagay namin sa backstage un drums,. malaking bawas ingay sa stage, :)
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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #345 on: March 11, 2010, 01:06:57 PM »
because commercial sway braces for acoustic isolation use do not seem to be available locally (even mikep has them made), and they are not cheap for the average DIYer, i embarked on making one myself.

i patterned mine after this: http://www.kineticsnoise.com/arch/images/psb.jpg

mine is obviously home-made:



That's really great botbenz. I think a lot of times many of us will be forced to do something like that because of lack of local sources for such things. Also read that you had to ship greenglue...how did that work out? I was thinking of doing the same thing for the ceiling below the studio...double-gypsum with GG palaman. yum! Dunno if it's worth the cost and trouble though.

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #346 on: March 11, 2010, 06:25:21 PM »
Hangers done by Kinetics are available locally.  They are distributed by Basic Machineries.  These are the same hangers I used in the construction of the two new GMA7 studios on EDSA.  Mason hangers are also available locally but they are a bit expensive.  For small studios, I have them made by some machine shop but must pass the necessary tests as these are load bearing hangers; they might fall if not within specs.  Plus, if the neoprene rubber used is not pliable enough, it will be useless to use them as they won't work.

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #347 on: March 28, 2010, 10:42:22 PM »
this thread's email notifier doesn't seem to be working; i don't get notified of new posts. sorry for the late reply!

@Findall: my studio/music hobby was sidetracked by another hobby, including the budget! :D so i have three cases of green glue from about 9 months ago, and i sure hope they haven't coagulated beyond use! between your reminding me and mikep's tip on sourcing Kinetics' hangers locally, i ought to get back to completing my home studio/SOHO--this year!

if the green glue *expired* (i don't know if it does) beyond usability, i will probably just skip it. my poured concrete outer room seems to have attenuated noise sufficiently. the only outside noise now seems to seep through my hollow steel door, which i plan to reinforce with: 1) a leaf of MDF and/or fiber cement board; and 2) a second door.

@lowriderthug: mikep has built many studios; he can help you treating your church. heck, if i had his expertise, i'd help you and ex-deal my sins! :D

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #348 on: April 08, 2010, 12:39:08 AM »
mga sir pag naglagay po ba ako ng kortina sa dalawang side ng live room ako pong frequency ang nababawasan?tnx

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Re: DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread
« Reply #349 on: April 08, 2010, 01:08:52 AM »
@palaka: curtain absorption largely depends on the type/weight of fabric and the distance to the wall. google "sound absorption frequencies curtains".