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Offline djrev

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time sig question
« on: January 29, 2009, 09:51:54 PM »
helo mga fellow drummers! sinusubukan ko pong turuan ang sarili ko ng basics ng drums. para pag nagkaroon na ako ng budget para sa sariling set pwede na akong magpaturo ng intermediate lessons.

ang katanungan ko po ay ganito(ala dating doon :lol:)
may kanta po akong inaaral. ang time sig 6/8. ung isang bar po hati sa dalawang part. yung isang part triplet. yung isa 4 beats. naguluhan po ako nung naencounter ko yun. pano po hahatiin yung 3 beats para maging 4?

salamat.
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Offline phfreq

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2009, 12:12:36 AM »
helo mga fellow drummers! sinusubukan ko pong turuan ang sarili ko ng basics ng drums. para pag nagkaroon na ako ng budget para sa sariling set pwede na akong magpaturo ng intermediate lessons.

ang katanungan ko po ay ganito(ala dating doon :lol:)
may kanta po akong inaaral. ang time sig 6/8. ung isang bar po hati sa dalawang part. yung isang part triplet. yung isa 4 beats. naguluhan po ako nung naencounter ko yun. pano po hahatiin yung 3 beats para maging 4?

salamat.

it would be great kung maipapakita mo ung notes.

Ang triplets, kahit na visually eh 3 notes na pinagdikit-dikit, counted as one beat lang.

Hindi ko lang sure bakit dun sa sinabi mo eh isang part eh triplet tapos ung sumunod eh 4 beats -- so lalabas eh 5 beats per bar lang yon.. Baka may rest in between.. Mas maganda kung maipapakita mo ung mga notes para mas magets..

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2009, 12:33:12 AM »
yup, better kung mapost mo yung notes dito, tapos listen to the song na rin, konting observation sa beats at measure at sure makukuha mo yun...

anong song ba yung inaaral mo?
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Offline vincher

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2009, 03:28:58 AM »
baka 16th note triplet yung unang part pos 4 na tig8th note yun. kasi 6/8 naman. gets ba? hehehehe bale sa beats one at sa and tig isang triplet, pos sa beat ng 3&4& tig iisang isang beat lang. count as 1&2&3& = din yan sa 6/8 so yung  sinasabi ko, 1-trip-let, & trip-let, 2 & 3 & .

Offline rexdrummer

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2009, 05:12:03 AM »
sige sir describe mo sa amin kung anong klase ng notes ang naka triplet 16th ba? tapos ano yung 4 na beats. Kasi ang alam namin lang kung 6/8 eh di 8th = 1 beat.

Just give us a detailed info from beats 1- 6. I'm sure marami kaagad makaksagot ng tanong mo.

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Offline djrev

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2009, 08:45:53 AM »
eto po yung bar



thanks po. hirap pa po kasi ako magbasa ng notes e.
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Offline uglyguy

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2009, 09:59:43 AM »
sir ganito po counting nyan ... sorry ha di ko na nilagay yun ibang count ... on the counts lang na may stroke ka ....

you be counting 1 - n - 2 - n - 3 - n - 4 - n - 5 - n - 6 - n

so ganito na yan



sir eto yun link ng ginawa kong wav and mp3 for that .... kaso nasa 100 bpm lang not 228 bpm as indicated sa photo po ... hehehehe bilisan mo na lang po pag ginawa mo na po ...

MP3 = http://www.mediafire.com/?gjqmyjm5mzj

WAV = http://www.mediafire.com/?w5zjiwmjimi
« Last Edit: January 30, 2009, 11:50:10 AM by uglyguy »

Offline phfreq

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 12:16:14 PM »
ung basa ni ugly guy tama..

since 6/8 ang time sig, hanapin mo lang lahat ng 8th note, tapos bawat 8th note eh counted as one beat. Ung iba don, subdivide mo lang yung bawat beat so dun sa notes merong 16ths.

Looking for the 8th notes, merong 4 kicks and one snare flam na 8th notes -- so 5 beats na yon pag in-add mo. Tapos may dalawang 16th notes flam snare so equals 1 beat yon for a total of 6 beats per bar.

since merong 16th notes, kung bilangin ko ung ganon eh 1 e & a 2 e & a ...

so based dun sa bar, kick and crash sa 1, snare flam sa 2, kick on the "& of 2", kick sa "& of 3", snare flam sa 4, kick sa 5 and snare flam sa 6 (which essentially is the same as how uglyguy explained it.

ps.. tried programming it sa drumtrack software and ang bilis ng 228 bpm. ginawa kong 120bpm, sounds like a fall out boy song ;-)

hth..


Offline djrev

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2009, 01:43:47 PM »
waaaaaa. ang bait bait at accomodating nyo mga sir. salamat salamat. medyo naliwanagan na ako. babasahin ko pa ng paulit ulit yung explanation. hanggang maintindihan ko na ng maayos.

pahabol po na question aling snare flam po yung 8th note?

ung song po pala ay toxicity ng system of a down. first bar ng intro. nakita ko lang kasi sa net nakapost yung transcription nya. e since sobrang rare ako makakita ng transcription. kahit mahirap yung song, dinownload ko na rin.

thanks again. sa uulitin. hehehe. :lol:
« Last Edit: January 30, 2009, 01:46:11 PM by djrev »
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Offline uglyguy

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2009, 02:02:17 PM »
pahabol po na question aling snare flam po yung 8th note?


lahat po ng snare strokes ay flam po ang ginamit .. its up to you kung left or righ flam yan ... kung san ka comfortable po

Offline phfreq

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Re: time sig question
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2009, 08:24:07 PM »
waaaaaa. ang bait bait at accomodating nyo mga sir. salamat salamat. medyo naliwanagan na ako. babasahin ko pa ng paulit ulit yung explanation. hanggang maintindihan ko na ng maayos.

pahabol po na question aling snare flam po yung 8th note?

ung song po pala ay toxicity ng system of a down. first bar ng intro. nakita ko lang kasi sa net nakapost yung transcription nya. e since sobrang rare ako makakita ng transcription. kahit mahirap yung song, dinownload ko na rin.

thanks again. sa uulitin. hehehe. :lol:

by the way, to also help, you can try downloading audacity -- free sya and meron syang pangpabagal ng kanta. That should also help you in deciphering the notes and learning the song. Kuhanin mo ung latest beta kasi dun sa latest beta, nandun na mismo sa toolbar ung button para maplay mo ng mabagal ung song -- may choices ka ng speed...

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/