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Offline Boxedking

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2013, 10:46:22 PM »
Floyd Rose is a double locking trem BRAND. It's not what we call the mechanism. It should be DOUBLE LOCKING FLOATING TREM vs. FIXED BRIDGE guitar.

Anyways, I'd go with a fixed bridge guitar. Less hassle. The only problem that I keep on encountering on my double locking trem equipped guitar is when you snap a string during a live performance. Dapat alam mo kung kailan mo dapat palitan ang strings ng gitara mong naka double locking trem para makaiwas ka sa ganoong sitwasyon.
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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2013, 10:51:59 PM »
Floyd Rose is a double locking trem BRAND. It's not what we call the mechanism. It should be DOUBLE LOCKING FLOATING TREM vs. FIXED BRIDGE guitar.

Anyways, I'd go with a fixed bridge guitar. Less hassle. The only problem that I keep on encountering on my double locking trem equipped guitar is when you snap a string during a live performance. Dapat alam mo kung kailan mo dapat palitan ang strings ng gitara mong naka double locking trem para makaiwas ka sa ganoong sitwasyon.

another reason why i use elixir hahahaha! :lol: tagal ko na di nagpapalit. nakakasawa na.. araw araw naman napapawisan.. :lol:
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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2013, 11:05:00 PM »
another reason why i use elixir hahahaha! :lol: tagal ko na di nagpapalit. nakakasawa na.. araw araw naman napapawisan.. :lol:
Para sakin, wala sa brand ng strings yan pag matagal na nakakabit sa gitara. Elixirs din gamit ko nun naputulan ako onstage.
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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2013, 11:18:35 PM »
I think generally speaking mas hassle talaga floyd both sa gig and recording. Sige you can get those really nice zps ibanez trems that stay in tune better pero there are just a whole lot more moving parts kasi. But you're gonna get to know your guitar a whole lot better when you do get over that initial hassle of dealing with a  floating bridge tremolo. A lot of people swear by it and would even argue that floating trems are easier to string up and setup  than fixed bridge guitars. I guess it really depends on the type of musician you are haha, if you like to rape the whammy bar then yeah i guess you're gonna have to expect that you're gonna go out of tune. I think that trems are for soloists rather than rhythm guitarists. And expect that the floating bridge is set closer to the body than those tone pros kaya the best intermediate na for me is yung gibraltar bridge ng ibanez.

Sa fixed naman, some say na the strings break easier and they are a little harder to intonate kasi sometimes you have to flip/reverse the bridge pa. But the advantage is you don't really need tools to adjust the action sa bridge (take note I'm comparing it to a standard floyd floating trem  not the ZPS ones). Plus i know na tuning is also quite dependent on the quality of the floyd/floating trem  itself, pag licensed lang shempre it's not gonna be as solid as the real floyd rose ones and I think it has to do with how they actually make the knife edge and the material used. Also if you pick really hard me flutter at times (which some people may or may not like) i think to the extreme yung wobble is ung herman li flutter haha but that's kinda what happens to your bridge when you pick hard. So yun you're gonna have to be a little bit more delicate when playing  and you can't just slap on heavier string gauges without setting up the guitar first. 

Well bottom line I just like standard bridges kasi you don't really have to think about anything when you tune or break strings.
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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2013, 10:13:08 PM »
pag nagchange ng string to a higher gauge say 9-10, sufficient na bang spring lang ang i-adjust (tighten)?

at pag nag aadjust ba ng spring nakaloosen yung strings nyo or nakatune? nagtry kasi ako magtweak sa spring na nakatono sinubukan kong i-tighten. ang hirap e. kinokontra ng strings. o baka dahil virgin lang yung screws ng spring claw ko?
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Offline darksyde_brianne

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2013, 01:14:45 PM »
hassle nga ang floating..
hirap gmitin ang guitar kapag iba iba tuning nang tinutugtog..

buti nlang natuto ako mag adjust sa pag babasa dito dati sa mga thread
tska sa internet..

mas ok ang fixed..
pero floating lang ang gitara ko..
tska isa lang gitara ko..
kya tiis tiis lng..
heheheh  :razz:



Offline Freak

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2013, 05:05:33 PM »
you should also consider the positioning and number of spring pieces on your trem  8-)

may inverted V, may straight, etc... all of them have different impact on your action

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2013, 05:26:10 PM »
OT:

Floyd Rose is a Proper Noun right?

Just like Colgate, Samsung, Petron etc...

i.e

Pabili nga po ng Floyd Rose, yung Ibanez Edge Zero.

Offline Dyosa Triani

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2013, 10:23:23 PM »
Mali ka..  :-D
 yung Floyd rose at Ibanez ay parehas brand lang

ang tawag talaga sa category ng item na yan ay floating tremolo bridge or tremolo bridge...

I guess captain obvious is here.

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Offline Dyosa Triani

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2013, 10:35:43 PM »
okey ka lang? ang tawag dun sa mechanism item ay floating tremolo yung floyd rose at ibanez ay mga brand lang ng tremolo.. gets??  :lol:

Di mo nga na gets.

Kaya ko sinabing proper noun yung FR dahil karamihan dito FR ang tawag sa floating tremolo.
I set an example just to emphazise how awkward it is.

Just like this ->  Pabili ng Pampers, yung Huggies.

Fly away Captain Obvious.

Offline Dyosa Triani

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2013, 10:45:24 PM »
haha uu pwedeng sabihin na floyded pero hindi floyd rose at hindi mo din pwedeng sabihin na Pabili nga po ng Floyd Rose, yung Ibanez Edge Zero.
maguguluhan sayo yung seller lalo na sa audiophile. gets?? mas okey pa din saken yung floating tremolo mas generalize

Go to google. Search "Face Palm".

Para maliwanagan ka iho

Kaya ako nag post nito para maliwanagan yung iba na FLOATING TREMOLO dapat itawag nila sa Floyd Rose.

Yung example ko na "Pabili ng Floyd Rose, yung Ibanez Edge Zero" ay para maipamuka ko na mali yun. (or kinda awkward)

Susmaryosep ka. Ilang taon ka na ba?

Nakikipagtalo ka sakin eh iisa lang naman minumungkahi natin. Di mo lang naunawaan yung una kong post.

Offline lolwat

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2013, 11:10:23 PM »
Sinong nakakapansin na less ang fret buzz ng floyd rose-equipped guitar kesa fixed bridge sa parehong string height?

Hassle to kasi gusto kong mag-fixed bridge para sa susunod kong gitara, pero di ko pala pwedeng i-setup ng parehas na action sa mga Ibanez ko dahil sa isyu na to.  :eek:

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2013, 11:29:31 PM »
Floyd madiwara magkabit ng strings. Fixed mas Madali haha

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2013, 12:10:34 AM »
sanayan lang din e, ako personally gusto ko na rin yung string change process ng floyd kasi habang inuulit-ulit ko lalo akong nagiging maalam sa pagpapalit ng kwerdas sa unit.

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2013, 12:20:57 AM »
thats why I have both.  :idea:

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2013, 07:45:24 AM »
thats why I have both.  :idea:

dapat talaga. kasi AMMK.

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Offline rowley75

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2013, 02:59:34 PM »
haha uu pwedeng sabihin na floyded pero hindi floyd rose at hindi mo din pwedeng sabihin na Pabili nga po ng Floyd Rose, yung Ibanez Edge Zero.
maguguluhan sayo yung seller lalo na sa audiophile. gets?? mas okey pa din saken yung floating tremolo mas generalize

Masasabi mo bang Floyded siya pag naka Edge Zero? :?

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2013, 03:29:08 PM »
wag awayin ang mga lefty.konti lang sila. kapag nagtampo yan malulungkot tayo. :idea:

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Re: Floyded Bridge Vs Fixed Bridge
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2013, 03:49:39 PM »
I have a customer dito sa amin na nagpa install ng new pickups for his Aria Mac 550. Floyd rose siya. Kasama na doon yung string replacement. First time kong magpalit ng strings for a floyd rose. Inaabot ako ng halos 30 mins para ma-tune yung guitar. Usually, sa fixed bridge ko or floating trem ng strat ko, at least, 3 rounds of pulling/stretching the strings then retuning, eh okay na. Sa floyd rose na na encounter ko, more than 10 string pulls/stretches pa yung ginawa ko until naging all in tune na yung mga strings...  :eek:
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Offline lordpogi

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hindi yun.. i aadjust mo lang yung screw dun kung san nakakonek yung springs. adjust hanggang equal na yung string and spring tension. re-tune at adjust ulit. ayun.

buti nalang naka ZPS3 yung gitara ko.. di hassle hahahaha!

ZPS FTW!!!  :cool:
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