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Title: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: kulapoot on February 21, 2006, 04:44:30 AM
im just a beginner..i just bought a fernando drumset and my snare drum lacks snare sound... noong mejo bago p ung snare drum, pinatono ko dun pinagbilan s sta mesa at maganda tunog.. ngaun parang kulang s snare ung tunog..parang wala n ngang snare sound. parang tomtom lng ung tunog.. hinigpitan at niluwagan ko n ung mga skin s taas at baba..hinigpitan at niluwagan ko n ren ung wire s ilalim...ayaw p den khet anong combination... cnubukan ko lagyan ng masking tape ung wire s ilalim mejo ngkasnare n tunog n, pero bitin p ren.. pano ayusen to??? or bili n lng ng bago.. thanks..
Title: I NEED HELP SNARE DRUM TUNING..
Post by: bugoy on February 21, 2006, 01:51:57 PM
maluwag siguro yung strainer mo
Title: I NEED HELP SNARE DRUM TUNING..
Post by: judithp_shredder on February 23, 2006, 09:51:28 AM
I TUNE MO SA PINAKAMASIKIP UNG SIDE ENDS NG SNARE UNG BUONG BILOG MGA SCREW SA GILID. LUMULUWAG TLGA SA GAMET.
OR BKA LOSTRED NA UNG MGA SCREW NG SNARE MO, BILIE KA NA NG BAGO.
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: kulapoot on March 10, 2006, 06:54:59 AM
Sir paano nyo tinotono ung snare nyo?? ung sken kc tunog bakal..parang "klunk".gus2 ko ung bawasan ung tunog bakal..pano??.. pantay b dapat sikip ng taas at baba o dapat masmasikip ung baba?? tips nman
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: peeves24 on March 10, 2006, 08:30:45 AM
http://home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/id4.html :D
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on March 16, 2006, 08:06:56 AM
hahaha! naiinis din ako sa tunog na "klunk". bad trip.. :lol:
Title: pare...
Post by: kibohead on April 07, 2006, 09:31:54 PM
there are lots of ways tuning a snare, or even the entire set. you can make the resonant head/batter head tight if you prefer a higher pitch on your kit. But what is important is you make the lugs equally tightened, producing them to have equal sounds at each lug. about 1-1.5 inches. that goes to your toms palang. Sa snare, try removing first the wires, kc ako i tend to make the least tension for my resonant head/bottom head. tapos i tighten the snare to the extent, pwede din naman at your own pitch, as long as equal ang produced sound ng bawat lug. tapos its better to make your left tom 3 notes higher to your snare.
hope that helps man. 8) drum forward.
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: Miggleness on April 11, 2006, 01:28:55 PM
dito rin pala si sir peeves!
di ko pa nababasa ang link.. anyway, natry ko itono ang snare ko (crappy heads). Yun nga lang mukhang naka-tono nya yung high tom ko kasi pag hampasin ko high tom, tumutunog din ang snare belt. bleh!
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: Eni on June 08, 2006, 02:05:20 PM
buy new heads remo coated ambasador/evans g1 over snare side reso and read the link what mr.peeve posted
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: Eni on June 08, 2006, 02:07:08 PM
Quote from: Miggleness
dito rin pala si sir peeves!
di ko pa nababasa ang link.. anyway, natry ko itono ang snare ko (crappy heads). Yun nga lang mukhang naka-tono nya yung high tom ko kasi pag hampasin ko high tom, tumutunog din ang snare belt. bleh!
hindi tlaga maiiwasan yan. tune ur high tom lower
Title: I NEED HELP SNARE DRUM TUNING..
Post by: Eni on June 08, 2006, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: judithp_shredder
I TUNE MO SA PINAKAMASIKIP UNG SIDE ENDS NG SNARE UNG BUONG BILOG MGA SCREW SA GILID. LUMULUWAG TLGA SA GAMET.
OR BKA LOSTRED NA UNG MGA SCREW NG SNARE MO, BILIE KA NA NG BAGO.
bad.dont choke ur snare. tune it fairly tight if u want more crack,high pitched, tune the reso tighter than the batter dont crank ur snare wires, it will affect the dynamics. no muffling, i mean no paper,tapes,tissue
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: fortheloveofit on June 08, 2006, 09:25:44 PM
good day,
I suggestmaglagay ka ng donut o yun O-ring na nilalagay sa ibabaw ng batterhead ng snare to reduce overtone. May nabibili nito sa audiophile.
If you dont want metal sound or overtones, might as well buy a wood snare. Kse personality na at characteristics talaga ng mga metal snares(brass, bronze, etc..) yun sound na ito which some drummers do like naman.
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: Eni on June 08, 2006, 09:33:50 PM
put Oring pag sa bahay ka lng praktis pero pag live or wit the band tanggalin mo na para open ung tunog. remember iba naririnig ng audience at drummer.
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: fortheloveofit on June 08, 2006, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Eni
put Oring pag sa bahay ka lng praktis pero pag live or wit the band tanggalin mo na para open ung tunog. remember iba naririnig ng audience at drummer.
Ok din itong suggestion. Pero parang baligtad yata, kse a lot of times sa live playing the tech will ask me kung paano ko marereduce yun overtones sa snare ko. Sa bahay naman ok lang may overtones kse ikaw lang naman ang nakikinig or kung gusto mo walang overtones use whatever means possible. pero kung preference nga nung player ma reduce yun metal sound or overtones be it live or at home use whatever means possible to get your desired sound, personal taste yun ng drummer lalo na sa snare drum sound. A lot of great drummers have distinct snare drum sounds na kapag sila na yun pumamapalo alam mo na na siya yun like Steve Gadd kse preferred sound nya yun. An open sound does not always mean a good sound. Again preference yan ng drummer. Sa live playing naman naka mic yun drums so more often than not controlled yun sound na lalabas wag mo nga lang hahatawin ng malakas yun snare drums dahil ndi ito mapapatunog ng tech ng maayos.
peace
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: Eni on June 09, 2006, 12:08:46 AM
its just me. IMHO...in general na lng basta,.. learn to tune!! waaah!! u will get the sound u want if u can tune properly! hehe peace. syempre pag me magandang heads ka. bilin mo muna ung tamang heads base dun sa tunog na gus2 mong makuha.
Title: fernando Snare drum tuning help
Post by: kulapoot on June 09, 2006, 12:39:58 AM
Thanks s mga suggestions sirs!!!!
Mga sirs kc ang gus2 ko sanang tunog ung parang snare drum ni carter beauford of DMB(Asa p.hehe). or closer to that sound. any suggestions on my cheap ass fernando snare.. thanks...
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: Eni on June 09, 2006, 01:04:12 PM
IMO,u cant get it, kc naka mic un. iba na labas nun kc na mix na un. pangalawa iba snare nya sa snare mo and the heads.
sa snare mo naman. i suggest bili ka ng new heads. remo coated ambasador over clear ambasador snare side sa JB music 500 pesos each. basahin mo ng paulit ulit ung tuning bible. lahat ng mga tunog (fat,wet,cracky,open,pop,highly resonant etc) makukuha mo pag natutunan mo and experiment! hanapin ang sweet spot ng current snare mo. un lng talaga.... ok kaya, ganito na lng, tune mo ung batter side base dun sa 'feel' meaning pag hinampas mo, makukuha mo ung tamang 'rebound' ng stick mo. sa resonant side naman tune mo ng mas mahigpit kesa sa batter side. kakalabasan nito high pitched,cracky sound. ayan. isang example. :P :roll: zzzz
Title: Re: fernando Snare drum tuning help
Post by: peeves24 on June 09, 2006, 03:10:46 PM
Quote from: kulapoot
Thanks s mga suggestions sirs!!!!
Mga sirs kc ang gus2 ko sanang tunog ung parang snare drum ni carter beauford of DMB(Asa p.hehe). or closer to that sound. any suggestions on my cheap ass fernando snare.. thanks...
yep as Eni mentioned, you cant get it because aside from being miced, they also applied compression.
the closest thing is by replacing your batter head with evans genera dry. tune the batter slightly tighter than the resonant to get that dry crackling sound. use a wood snare for an even drier sound.
Title: Re: fernando Snare drum tuning help
Post by: Eni on June 10, 2006, 08:46:39 AM
Quote from: peeves24
Quote from: kulapoot
Thanks s mga suggestions sirs!!!!
Mga sirs kc ang gus2 ko sanang tunog ung parang snare drum ni carter beauford of DMB(Asa p.hehe). or closer to that sound. any suggestions on my cheap ass fernando snare.. thanks...
yep as Eni mentioned, you cant get it because aside from being miced, they also applied compression.
the closest thing is by replacing your batter head with evans genera dry. tune the batter slightly tighter than the resonant to get that dry crackling sound. use a wood snare for an even drier sound.
kuya peeves san ba nakakabili dito ng evans g1 o kaya remo coated emperor, o kaya sa malaking variety ng heads? di kc ako nakakalabas masyado o nakakapunta sa ibang lugar tulad sa raon etc :roll:
Title: SNARE DRUMS TUNING HELP
Post by: peeves24 on June 10, 2006, 09:12:25 PM
g1 sa audiophile at iba pang models ng evans
di pa ata talaga nagbenta ng emperor ang jb. dati coated ambassadors at cs dotted at pinstripes lang ang nabili ko sa kanila
Title: help!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: rz3znik on July 15, 2006, 12:16:39 PM
ok lng ba ung tunog ng fernando na picolo then lagyan ng ambassador na remo tapos palitan ung parang spring ng mas makapal????
Title: help!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Miggleness on July 15, 2006, 02:40:14 PM
changing heads is always a good idea. hehe. ano ang snare side ba nyan? Maganda yung manipis na snare side para sensitive sya sa wires tlaga.
tapos... about sa pagpalit ng wires I dont know. Kasi manipis na ang picolo kaya masmabilis ang snare reaction na sya compared sa deeper drums. Yung wire pinapalitan from 20 to 40 for deeper drums kasi minsan parang bitin na ang tunog nya.
Masmabuti kung ma-try mo muna yung wire bago mo bilhin.
Title: help!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Eni on July 15, 2006, 03:40:54 PM
remo amb over snare side amb.wak mo na palitan ung spring.ingatan mo na lng. wag mo tabingiin
Title: snare
Post by: kulapoot on July 18, 2006, 09:57:24 PM
sir, anong ibig sbihin kpag picolo??b gawa s kahoy??? mgkano ang ganito??
Title: fernando Snare drum ..help in tuning pls
Post by: kulapoot on July 19, 2006, 03:20:50 AM
Sir pano tanggalin ung bakal n tunog s fernando stock steel snare?? ung sken hnde ko matanggal tlga..lahat ng adjustment and combinations ginwa ko n.(frm pearl forum and drum tuning bible)- no go.tlga... pinalitan ko n ung heads. remo ambasador coated on top, remo clear hazy at the bottom.. mejo nbawasan pero mabakal p den ung tunog... tsaka nung pinalitan heads , lumakas ung tunog sobra.nasasapawan n ung iba.. tips nman... kelangan ko n yata tlga bumile bagong snare n kahoy.. kwarto pala nka setup ung drums.. tips...thanks *** tips nman den on buying new snare drum.. ung hnde masyado mahal, pero mganda n den tunog..gusto ko kc ung tunog n mejo makahoy.. ung mejo malapet s snare ni carter beauford of DMB..kung kaya..hehehe.. khet lazer or fernando n lng ulet n kahoy..how much n den ok b to?? **thanks in advance
Title: tuning tricks
Post by: sunny on July 19, 2006, 03:41:06 AM
Sir try using Remo fibre skyn batter head and then tune the bottom head higher pitched than the batter head(top), dapat low pitch lang batter head para hindi syado litaw ang 'ringy' overtones.Dapat evenly tuned rin each lug para matalbog with lesser metallic overtones.
-Sunny,Hotspot jazzband
Title: help!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: rage_27 on July 19, 2006, 12:16:04 PM
Title: Re: snare
Post by: Eni on July 20, 2006, 03:15:33 PM
Quote from: kulapoot
sir, anong ibig sbihin kpag picolo??b gawa s kahoy??? mgkano ang ganito??
picolo ung manipis na snare.
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: Miggleness on August 17, 2006, 11:36:11 PM
Mga peeps...
paano ba tamang pag-tono sa snare drum?
Noon kasi medium tension ako sa batter and tight yung bottom. Problem ko was the sympathetic buzz when I hit the 12" tom. malakas talaga yung buzz. To reduce it, I tighten the wires. Yun nga lang, nagiging one dimensional na ang tunog ng snare drum kasi mahina o malakas ang palo mo, pareho halos ang tunog. Can be good but its not good when you want to play with the snare drum.
What I did was loosen the bottom a bit, tighten the top... so tight na halos di mo na ma-press down yung head.
The kanina yung isang snare drum sa perfect pitch napansin ko na sobrang higpit nga ng top and bottom heads tapos sobrang loose yung snares. It sounded poppish. Ayun, medyo ginaya ko. I tightened the batter a bit more and loosened the snares.
Heto ang samples:
Medium snare tension, pretty tight heads: http://dl.pinoyhaws.com/miguel/snare.wav
pagpasensyahan nyo na kasi bulok yung tunog. hehe. And bulok din yung audio recorder ng camera, parang panay overtones ng lahat ng hampasin ko ang natutuha nya.
Anyway, madami po din naman interesado sa topic na ito so hopefully, papost naman ng samples ng tuning nyo sa snare drum nyo.
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: autoexec on August 18, 2006, 12:11:13 AM
Mejo OT pero ask ko na din dito. "Sensya na po Miggleness ha. share nalang tayo sa thread mo" :oops:
Yung snare kong fernando na 16x6 ata yun (basta yung kasama sa fernando na set) pag pinalitan ko ba ng heads yun like remo ambassador, gaganda talaga tunog nya? Or bibili talaga dapat ako ng snare drum? Thanks.
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 18, 2006, 12:16:43 AM
Quote from: autoexec
Mejo OT pero ask ko na din dito. "Sensya na po Miggleness ha. share nalang tayo sa thread mo" :oops:
Yung snare kong fernando na 16x6 ata yun (basta yung kasama sa fernando na set) pag pinalitan ko ba ng heads yun like remo ambassador, gaganda talaga tunog nya? Or bibili talaga dapat ako ng snare drum? Thanks.
sir snare mo 16x6? ang laki naman ata??????
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: autoexec on August 18, 2006, 12:29:58 AM
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: autoexec
Mejo OT pero ask ko na din dito. "Sensya na po Miggleness ha. share nalang tayo sa thread mo" :oops:
Yung snare kong fernando na 16x6 ata yun (basta yung kasama sa fernando na set) pag pinalitan ko ba ng heads yun like remo ambassador, gaganda talaga tunog nya? Or bibili talaga dapat ako ng snare drum? Thanks.
sir snare mo 16x6? ang laki naman ata??????
Ahehe! Di ako sure eh basta yung default po na kasama sa set... Sapat na ba ang magandang heads para mapaganda ang tunog nun? Or kailangan ng mas high end na snare drum? Tnx
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 18, 2006, 02:20:26 AM
14" yan sir. yan ang standard. bili ka remo ambassador coated. ayus yan. gaganda tunog niyan
Title: Marching snare heads on drum set snare...
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on August 18, 2006, 03:55:21 PM
guys may naka try na sa inyo gumamit ng marching heads pra sa snare nyo? ok ba? super tibay din kc nila eh just wondering kung ok sila sa drumset setting...
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: Eni on August 18, 2006, 04:04:44 PM
to miggleness, mas maganda ung snare loose. kc parang na choke ung isa.
Title: Marching snare heads on drum set snare...
Post by: pmack on August 19, 2006, 02:53:10 AM
di ok yun. iba kasi ang material nun. mas makapal. you have to crank it up sa tuning which would possibly damage your snare. marching snares are built differently than drumset snares. i wouldn't do it if i were you.
Title: Marching snare heads on drum set snare...
Post by: legnacilyz on August 19, 2006, 11:15:33 PM
Sir Benii uses that on his snare right?
Title: Marching snare heads on drum set snare...
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on August 20, 2006, 12:03:24 AM
dunno kung cno po si sir benii eh eheheh... curious lang naman ako sa kanila eh
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: autoexec on August 20, 2006, 12:23:21 AM
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
14" yan sir. yan ang standard. bili ka remo ambassador coated. ayus yan. gaganda tunog niyan
Ah talaga bro? Sige try ko nalang muna drum heads bago snare drum :D
Title: Marching snare heads on drum set snare...
Post by: legnacilyz on August 20, 2006, 01:30:27 AM
ay! sorry! si Sir Benii is the owner of the DW kit nung nagkaron ng EB3 ang Pinoydrums! tas nkita ko ung snare niya, black ung batter head! mei thread dito about questions sa EB3 ng pinoydrums eh.. nndun p ung tnong ko ata.. tnong ko kung ano ung batter ni sir benii.. nklimutan ko n ung sinabi nilang tatak pero for marching daw un! hehehe super tight!
cheers!
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: marko21 on August 21, 2006, 09:58:32 PM
ei pano ba i-loosen ung snare wires?
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: Eni on August 22, 2006, 06:13:15 PM
may ikutan sa gilid.
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: marko21 on August 22, 2006, 06:31:42 PM
Quote from: Eni
may ikutan sa gilid.
ah un lang ba un.. ok thanks
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: nashbass on August 24, 2006, 02:03:38 PM
mga master... tanong lang po... ok din ba tunog ng remo controlled sound na head?
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 24, 2006, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: nashbass
mga master... tanong lang po... ok din ba tunog ng remo controlled sound na head?
hindi pa ko naka try niyan... pero parang yan ang gamit nila portnoy, simon philips..
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: Miggleness on August 24, 2006, 08:59:25 PM
Remo controlled sound...
Fatter ang tunog nya. I use evans reverse dot, similar to remo CS pero nasa ilalim yung dot. Compared sa unmuffled head, mas-fat and warm ang tunog nya.
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: intake on August 24, 2006, 10:39:37 PM
try this combination
fernando piccolo snare, metal shell (sa JB meron) remo soundmaster (ang problema wala na ata nito sa pinas)
Title: overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
Post by: popsicle on August 30, 2006, 09:22:13 PM
i've already changed the batter head to remo coated ambassador, and 13" gibraltar snare wires... i've tighten all the lugs, both the batter and the resonant side... but still, it don't sound too cracky and has overtones like echoes... what do you think is the best way to make it sound like other piccolo snares? tnx!!!
Title: overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
Post by: intake on August 30, 2006, 09:27:21 PM
two words....remo muffler! :lol:
Title: overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
Post by: Miggleness on August 30, 2006, 11:29:26 PM
did you tighten the snare wire?
If you did, then untighten it. Really really loose dapat sya, but not too loose that it just rattles.
if you can barely press your finger into the resonant head, loosen a bit. Wag masyadong mahigpit.
overtones are normal but can be minimized with proper tuning. Dont worry, pag tutugtog ka na, di na maririnig yan. Dont put mufflers kasi flatter ang magiging tunog ng snare mo. At magiging lower ang tone ng snare mo.
Best help you can get it visit music studios and observe how they tuned their snare. That was what I did. Took me 6 months to get my snare drum to sound great.
Title: overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
Post by: wendsworld on August 31, 2006, 01:46:50 PM
ganyan din problem ko sa piccolo ko lahat na yata ng adjustment ginawa ko pero after ko lagyan ng muffler ring...medyo ok naman na...tama si sir miggleness medyo loosen the snare wire
Title: overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
Post by: Eni on August 31, 2006, 06:17:13 PM
put o ring
Title: overtones s fernando piccolo snare!!! pano tanggalin??? tnx!
Post by: in_the_tent on August 31, 2006, 09:00:28 PM
hmm.. ako mas gusto ko yung me overtone. wala lang, nakisali lang.:) O ring na nga ang solution.:)
Title: Snare drum tuning
Post by: drummer_boy17 on September 01, 2006, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
14" yan sir. yan ang standard. bili ka remo ambassador coated. ayus yan. gaganda tunog niyan
tnx sa info.. nagtatanong din kasi sakin kaibigan ko nyan.. bti nalang nabasa ko sa thread na ito.. :)
Title: generic reso head for my snare
Post by: bolshoi on September 12, 2006, 12:32:06 PM
masters,
is it ok to use the generic reso head na available sa raon for my snare? yun yung mga walang brand or sometimes regal ang nakalagay.
i'm using remo amdassador for my batter.
how much ba clear sound controlled ng remo for snare?
thanks
Title: Gano kayo kadalas mgtono ng snare???
Post by: ciro on October 17, 2006, 02:26:32 AM
My snare gets out of tuned verry often, the lug near the rim shot area always becomes loose to the point that I can remove it with my fingers...
does this happen to you also? if so how can I prevent it? does it help if I put plastic washers?
Title: Re: Gano kayo kadalas mgtono ng snare???
Post by: bangbus on October 17, 2006, 02:42:10 AM
Quote from: ciro
My snare gets out of tuned verry often, the lug near the rim shot area always becomes loose to the point that I can remove it with my fingers...
does this happen to you also? if so how can I prevent it? does it help if I put plastic washers?
i've never experienced that, pero baka loose thread na yung lug and/or tension rod pag over tightened sya. or baka finger tight lang yung sikip, try tightening it further. try mo lang.
personally, i treat my snare like a guitar. i tune it almost each time i play it. but its more of 'fine tuning' it for the moment whilst major tuning where i take time to on both sides are done only once in a while. 'just my practice, i dunno if everyone here does it regularly like i do, but i know a lot who does.
:D
Title: Gano kayo kadalas mgtono ng snare???
Post by: pmack on October 17, 2006, 08:31:09 AM
i have the same problem... wel, actually di naman sya problema, kasi i really love doing rimshots on my sensitone so talagang lumuluwang yung lug na madalas tamaan ng rimshot. para di naman magdent, i move my snare paikot ocassionally so ibang part naman ng rim ang rimshot ko...
i tune my snare every night before a gig. para may time na siya mag-reseat sa drum ulit so pagdating ng araw ng mismong gig, konting weaking na lang ok na.
Title: Re: Gano kayo kadalas mgtono ng snare???
Post by: drumster on October 17, 2006, 11:59:47 AM
Quote from: bangbus
personally, i treat my snare like a guitar. i tune it almost each time i play it. but its more of 'fine tuning' it for the moment whilst major tuning where i take time to on both sides are done only once in a while. 'just my practice, i dunno if everyone here does it regularly like i do, but i know a lot who does.
:D
I think that way too, and I observe that too. 8)
Title: Gano kayo kadalas mgtono ng snare???
Post by: Gep on October 17, 2006, 01:44:34 PM
Hindi naman madalas ang pagtugtog ko kaya konti lang ang difference. Pero ngayon medyo sproingy na yung tunog, nawala ng ko ti yung crack. Kaya itotono ko na lang uli!
Ang first aid sa maluwag na lug? Nail polish. :wink:
Title: Gano kayo kadalas mgtono ng snare???
Post by: ciro on October 18, 2006, 12:42:20 AM
whew... kala ko ako lang yung tono ng tono dito....
yes I agree, treat it like a guitar and tune it often... 1 slight turn and the over all sound noticably changes... I like my snare fat and low kase...
so any 1 tried rubber/plastic washers? does it work?
Title: Gano kayo kadalas mgtono ng snare???
Post by: Gep on October 18, 2006, 01:10:36 AM
Sinubukan ko yung tight tuning uli kanina. Olats!!! Loose na uli ako hehe.
Title: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: Gep on December 21, 2006, 12:20:15 PM
Sa Artwood ko, Remo Ambassador clear na batter, Tama stock head na reso.
Ano sa inyo?
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: Dindin on December 21, 2006, 12:45:13 PM
Pearl Free Floating 14" x 6.5" All-Maple: TOP - Remo Coated Powerstroke 3, BOTTOM - Remo Clear snare side bottom
Pearl Joey Jordison 13" x 6.5" Steel: TOP - Remo Coated Ambassador, BOTTOM - Remo Clear snare side bottom
Pearl Omar Hakim 13" x 5" African Mahogany: TOP - Remo Coated Ambassador, BOTTOM - Remo Clear snare side bottom
Sonor Force 3005 14" x 5" All-Maple: Sonor Remo UT Coated Head (stock), Sonor Remo Clear Bottom (stock)
Yamaha Stage Custom 14" x 5" Philippine Mahogany, Falkata, Birch - TOP - Remo Coated Ambassador, BOTTOM - Powerbeat (butas)
Fernando 14" x 5" Birch: TOP - Fernando coated stock (dented by Mike Alba & Vic Mercado. No charges were filed) , BOTTOM - clear, no branding (must be a Fernando)
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: peeves24 on December 21, 2006, 12:51:55 PM
Fernando 14" x 5" Birch: TOP - Fernando coated stock (dented by Mike Alba & Vic Mercado. No charges were filed) , BOTTOM - clear, no branding (must be a Fernando)
Hindi na siguro... Ayoko ng publicity e... Mas ok kung tahimik lang...
nung Zildjian day yan no?! :lol: :lol: :lol:
sakin...Regal coated (top) stock resonant (bottom) Fernando snare drum...san ka boy :-P
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: drumster on December 21, 2006, 10:14:19 PM
Hahaha nice one Dindin!! :-D
My current snare drum head set-ups:
5.5"x14" Tama Starclassic Maple snare drum: BATTER: Evans Genery Dry coated RESONANT: Evans Snare Side 300
Note: I plan to use Evans G1 coated on my next drumhead change, for a more open and more natural sound.
5"x13" Tama Artwood Maple snare drum: BATTER: Remo Ambassador coated RESONANT: Evans Snare Side 300
Note: I prefer using Evans G1 head; kaya lang no stock, kaya nag-Remo Ambassador muna ako.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: daemonite on December 21, 2006, 10:39:30 PM
bro dio, kano po yung evans na reso? may darating kasi ako na 4pc evans skins. lagay ko dun sa kit ko dito. hmmm. dalaw kaya ako kay jpmb para makita ko si mam bea nyahaha....
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: drumster on December 21, 2006, 10:45:59 PM
Bro, hindi ko maalala yung exact price ng Evans Snare side heads. I think nasa Php600-800 price range.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: daemonite on December 21, 2006, 10:48:58 PM
ok, at least di lumampas sa 1k heheeh. ano nga pala tawag dun sa chain sa ilalim ng snare? sensya na ha, noob ako sa terms eh....lol :lol:
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: drumster on December 21, 2006, 11:01:23 PM
Bro, hindi ko maalala yung exact price ng Evans Snare side heads. I think nasa Php600-800 price range.
Ok pala. Magkano naman Genera?
The exact price... I can't remember either. Hehehe Audiophile peeps represent! Sana pwede kayo magpost ng Evans price list.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: marco_katigbak on December 22, 2006, 03:15:36 PM
ang alam ko mga 700..pero maganda and durable than remo :mrgreen:
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: Dindin on December 22, 2006, 05:18:01 PM
I think Generas are around 700-800...
Pero mas mahal yung mga EC2. the 10" starts at 1k++. I outfitted my Fernando kit with EC2s and an EMAD. Sumakit ang bulsa ko... Nabawasan ng 7000 para sa heads lang... Mahal talaga ng EVANS...
Title: Re: What\\\'s your snare drum head combination?
Post by: manson on December 22, 2006, 05:36:40 PM
@DinDin - How is the sound of your maple 14 x 6.5 free floating snare? Im thinking of getting one soon.. thnks.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: kibohead on December 22, 2006, 06:22:44 PM
Pearl picollo 13" top:ambassador coated bottom: ambassador clear
Pero mas mahal yung mga EC2. the 10" starts at 1k++. I outfitted my Fernando kit with EC2s and an EMAD. Sumakit ang bulsa ko... Nabawasan ng 7000 para sa heads lang... Mahal talaga ng EVANS...
dito mas mura Evans compared sa Remo. I wanted Remo Pinstripe kaya lang abot ng 800+ wyl ung Evans n G2 Clear less than 600 lng...
dipende rin pal s place ano.... bka dis yrend mapalitan ko n batter heads ko... sana..
I want a evans coated power center Batter and Evans G1 Snare side sa snare ko... the rest of the set... Pinstripe sana... kaya lng waste of money.... newbie ng me.... at di matuto sa timing... hehehe
Title: Re: What\\\'s your snare drum head combination?
Post by: Dindin on December 23, 2006, 03:59:31 AM
Nope! Gep din pangalan ng drummer ng Aroma pero iba banda ko!
P650 benta niya sa 14".
edit: ikaw pala drummer ng Uyayi, nakita ko sa Bio, nagkasabay na tayo sa isang Kolumn gig, tumugtog ata kami ng 5 Ft Adjustment kasama kayo.
Sa 5 Ft Adjustment, Flyingsausage at The Automatics ako. :-D
Ok mga songs niyo ha. 5-piece kayo diba?
ahhh.... uu,,, nagkasabay n nga tyo... hehehe... small world... KERMIT PRODUCTIONS diba??? utol ako ni paul... hehehe... anyway,,, 14"? my 13" kaya sya??? hehehe... tnx bro!!!
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: popsicle on December 23, 2006, 12:16:18 PM
on my 13" x 3" Fernando piccolo snare:
13" remo coated ambassador (batter) 13" pearl snare side (reso)
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: Lil' drummer on December 24, 2006, 07:36:43 AM
Pearl Picollo 13" x 3" Brass: TOP - Remo Coated Ambassador, BOTTOM - Remo Clear snare side bottom :-D
Sonor Force 3005 14" x 5" Full-Maple: Sonor Remo UT Coated Head, Sonor Remo Clear Bottom :evil:
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: peeves24 on December 24, 2006, 07:58:26 PM
sa snare : remo ambassador coated top, remo snare side bottom
sa toms : sana may magpasok na ng aquarian heads dito...ganda ng classic clear model nila, head pa lang ulam na ano pa kaya kung mabili ko na yung tension rods at mabuo ko na yung drum ... yummy
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: Diadem on December 24, 2006, 11:48:26 PM
Bro, hindi ko maalala yung exact price ng Evans Snare side heads. I think nasa Php600-800 price range.
Ok pala. Magkano naman Genera?
Evans Genera Dry..P1,485 last time I asked.. :-D
Title: having a nice cracking sound sa snare
Post by: churp10 on March 13, 2007, 07:57:49 PM
tanong lang brother... kc may snare ako d2..pearl forum series ung kasama na sa set mismo..eh gusto ko sana ask kung anung magandang skin na pde ipalit dun para maging malutong ung sound nya..tska both na taas at baba ba ung papalita ko? and ok din ba ung pink stripe na remo para sa remo? and how much will it cost me for those remo skin? tnx!!!
Title: Re: having a nice cracking sound sa snare
Post by: daemonite on March 13, 2007, 08:05:54 PM
hmmm, you have to ask sensei jp buduan about that. hawak naman nya pearl dito. maybe you can visit him sometime and have a drum talk. dami ka matututunan dude...
About your snare, i think yung stock heads ng pearl are remo na. coated na ba yang head mo sa snare mo? it also may have something to do with having a 42 strand snare (wire) and 24 strand. tapos yung parang lever sa gilid, sensya na di ko lam term nun. tapos tight tuning ang batter side (taas) and medium tight for the reso side (baba). maybe you can drop by this saturday at the mini-eb @ gig music studios cubao, you can meet some of your fellow pinoydrummers na rin. dalhin mo na rin yang snare mo kung di mo madalaw si sensei jp sa yupanco. I owe a lot to him kasi na-tune yung lazer regal snare ko with evans power center reverse dot for batter and evans 300 hazy reso with astonishing results, maraming hindi makapaniwala na lazer yung ginagamit kong snare sa gig ngayon.
about the heads, mas mura ata ang remo sa evans depende sa model(?). Remo coated ambassadors are i think the high-end of remo heads. sensya na konti lang alam ko sa remo, evans kasi ang ginagamit ko.... :lol:
Cheers dude! Enjoy your pearl forum series, di ka magsisisi in the long run....
Title: Re: having a nice cracking sound sa snare
Post by: rasta_gopz on March 13, 2007, 08:13:35 PM
pwede mo rin try sir yung Evans na genera dry may kamahalan pero it works talaga pero that depends on you kung ano talaga hanap mo na tunog
evans power center reverse dot for batter and evans 300 hazy reso with astonishing results, maraming hindi makapaniwala na lazer yung ginagamit kong snare sa gig ngayon.
this is also a good one!!!!!!!! san mo nabili to sir??? n mag kano d pa kasi ako na baba sa dagupan eh, yan yung parang may silver ring sa gitna dba?
Title: Re: having a nice cracking sound sa snare
Post by: daemonite on March 13, 2007, 08:36:07 PM
Actually padala yan sa akin, isang set, kasama ng g2 for toms. nakita na ni oneil yun hehe.... nawala ko na yung price list eh pero less than 1k ata. or maybe around 1200 i dunno hehe, didn't check it with them na eh.
Power center reverse dot has it's dot sa ilalim nung head. check mo na lang site ng evans, hirap i-describe eh. pati nga si master jp, astounded sa tunog nun. kaso nga lang me topak na lugs ko kaya hanggang dun lang muna kaya nya, pero it sounded way better than the snare i use sa padis point dito....
Title: Re: having a nice cracking sound sa snare
Post by: pmack on March 13, 2007, 08:46:47 PM
bago mo palitan yung skin, try mo muna higpitan yung snare-side head ng todo (well, wag sobra baka mabutas).. and adjust the batter head para mas maluwang lang siya ng konting-konti kesa sa snare-side head...
works for me, might work on your snare... jut my $0.02
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: zound_tech on March 14, 2007, 07:13:15 AM
sir help naman po on my snare, meron po akong 12" na steel snare..... eh yun po ang gamit ko na main snare samin, kc ma-echo yung lugar namin kaya kapag 14" ang gamit ko sobrang ingay, eh my comment po kc yung gitarista namin at bokalista, ayaw nila yung tunog ng snare, manipis daw and things like that... eh ganun naman talaga tunog ng 12 diba? im using lazer skins lang on both top and snare heads, wala kc ako mabilan ng 12 na skin eh, balak ko po magpabili ng evans sa ibang bansa, ano po kaya effect nun? masaya na po ako sa tunog ng snare ko, gsto ko lang po sana makkakuha ng idea sa magiging tunog ng snare ko after buying evans, di ko pa kc nasusubukan ang evans eh,..... salamat mga sir,
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: daemonite on March 14, 2007, 11:06:19 PM
hmmm, may coated ba lazer? if ever there is, coated ba yung 12" snare mo?
Try mo sa audiophile kung may 12" sila na pang snare na coated. It makes a lot of difference kasi between coated batter heads for snares and uncoated.
I'm using evans skins right now and i am happy with it. pero depende talaga sa pandinig ng drummer yan, merong iba ayaw, mas gusto ang remo ambassador, pero for me, evans talaga ako hehehee....
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Bammbamm on March 14, 2007, 11:31:45 PM
ayaw nila yung tunog ng snare, manipis daw and things like that... eh ganun naman talaga tunog ng 12 diba?
You may be right. But if I were you, I'll try to tune my heads a bit lower. Subukan mo yung 14" na lower tuning. Baka naman kasi ikaw lang ang nakaka appreciate ng tunog ng snare na high-pitched at malutong. Ano bang style ng tugtugan nyo?
Mag adjust ka lang ng konti siguro, and let your bandmates judge the sound. Iba kasi ang dating ng tunog nyan every few meters away e. Minsan you should doubt yourself kung mismong bandmates mo na ang nag c-comment e. :wink:
gudlukk!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: zound_tech on March 15, 2007, 10:43:30 PM
well, for sure they have a point and they must be coming from somewhere, since 12" snares are really high in pitch or tones, but you see, we play in the church and sad to say that our sound system is incapable of delivering our music to the congregation clearly, and there's no mic available for the drums and our place is narrow and long, it means that the sound from the stage will have to travel all the way to the back of our church, making it audible to at least 250 people which is really impossible for an acoustic drum set alone. that's why i thought that since i cant please everybody, i might as well at least please the musicians around me, which is contrary to what's happening right now, although not all my bandmates have the same comments, i haven't heard anything from our band leader regarding that matter and i find the 14" snare that comes with the drum set to be too loud for me, making my playing messed up and it's quite annoying for me.... and one more thing since we play in the church, we dont play rock songs too much, it's much more of easy listening, for me at least... that's why i arrived at the idea of changing my cheap lazer heads with evans hoping that it will improve the way my snare sounds... the problem is, i'm not sure what head is appropriate for me....
Title: all about sa snare tuning..konting tulong
Post by: churp10 on March 19, 2007, 05:45:56 PM
panu ba ma kuha ung tunong na snare na malutong..ung parang piccolo na ung dating..kc ung snare ko is pearl forum series eh..gusto ko sana malaman kung anung head ang magandang ipalit para ma achive ko ung sound na ganun..tska pati po b ung drum skin sa baba papalitan din..if ever po anung magandang ipalit dun..salamat..i really need ur help in this one guys
Title: Re: all about sa snare tuning..konting tulong
Post by: Gep on March 19, 2007, 05:58:29 PM
Bili ka ng Remo Ambassador coated para sa ibabaw, at saka Remo Ambassador snare para sa ilalim.
Para crack ang sound, medyo ipihit mo ng konti, wag sobra. Gawin mong mas tight ng konti ang ilalim kumpara sa ibabaw.
Title: Re: all about sa snare tuning..konting tulong
Post by: daemonite on March 19, 2007, 06:33:11 PM
i think there's a thread for this one na. please look at it na lang. dami sagot dun na makakatulong sa yo ok?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Bammbamm on March 20, 2007, 12:20:43 AM
Medyo complicated nga yang case mo kasi we also have to consider that you're playing inside the church. Nagbabago din ang character ng tunog sa loob ng church pag puno ng tao. Siguro mas mabuting i-please mo na lang yung mga bandmates mo, kung anong sa tingin nilang ok, dun ka na din.
Eto hindi ako sure, pero nasubukan mo na bang gumamit ng O ring sa snare? Mababawasan nya yung high frequency/overtones ng snare. O kaya siguro double ply na batter head ang gamitin mo para hindi masyadong "ringy" yung snare drum.(Remo coated Emperor) Im just assuming na puro concrete walls ang loob ng simbahan kaya malakas yung high frequencies/overtones, yun siguro ang nakakabinging tunog na nadidinig nyo. Tissue & duct tape are the cheapest way to dampen the sound of your troublesome snare drum :-)
Title: snare drum help
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 29, 2007, 06:43:31 PM
guys,nabutas ung snare ko,ang nabili ng mom ko eh ung clear na remo head,anu ba mas maganda sa snare ung white o clear?????anu pinagkaiba???
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: boytambol on May 29, 2007, 07:26:42 PM
white para sakin... un kase madalas nagagamit ko sa mga studio samen... nakagamit narin ako ones ng clear pero mas ok ako sa white... try mo naren... tapos pagnabutas uli white na bilhin mo.... :-D :-D
gUdluCk....!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: eiyhan on May 29, 2007, 07:48:04 PM
Depende un tol sa brand... hmm.. pero sa akin, mas ok um white,. gudluck pre.... :-D
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 29, 2007, 09:08:38 PM
white para sakin... un kase madalas nagagamit ko sa mga studio samen... nakagamit narin ako ones ng clear pero mas ok ako sa white... try mo naren... tapos pagnabutas uli white na bilhin mo.... :-D :-D
gUdluCk....!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
kasi sabi ng JB music sa Sm North wala na daw cla nung white,kaya clear ang binigay,d bale may next time pa...
Title: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: eiyhan on May 29, 2007, 09:50:41 PM
pde po help?... pnu po ba npapalitan ng tono um snare?... tnx... :-)
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: eiyhan on May 29, 2007, 10:10:06 PM
depende tlga sau un tol... pro mas mganda tlga pag white remo.. punta ka raon, dami dun, dami ka pagpipilian, :-) :-)
Title: Re: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: matteotanga on May 29, 2007, 10:35:12 PM
tono mo lang kung gusto malutong higpitan mo ng konti dipende sa gusto mo dipende din kung coated o 2ply ung head mo? mga sir kaylangan ko na tulong dito hindi ko mapalwanag ng husto!!!
calling............. sir pevees sir jp sir kibo sir dio... calling calling !!!!!!! :-D
Title: Re: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: drummerboy827 on May 29, 2007, 11:04:37 PM
crispy tight lang yan!!
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 29, 2007, 11:22:31 PM
Mga Tol nakabili na ako ng remo clear sa snare,kaya lang d ako marunong mag tono,may echo pag hinahampas,panu alisin ung echo?????
Title: Re: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 29, 2007, 11:30:13 PM
Anu po ba ung crispy tight,un din ang problema ko,d aq marunung mag tono ng snare,may echo ung akin,kabibili lang nung head kanina,remo clear pinstripe,wala kasi nung white eh,help naman dyan guys,anu b dpat?higpitan ung head o luwagan???????? :?
Title: Re: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: nO RLY on May 30, 2007, 01:11:44 AM
di mo matatanggal yung echo ng drum. pero alam ko yung ibig sabihin mo. yung note ng drum kung pinalo mo, ang tagal? sa tuning lang yan. naayos ko yung problema kong yan sa tuning. yung bottom head gawin mong masmahigpit kaysa sa batter head niya. yung gusto mong "bounce" sa drum, nasa sa iyo na yun. :-)
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: nO RLY on May 30, 2007, 01:21:03 AM
ginagamit din ng ibang drummers yung clear na heads. but masmarami gamit nila yung coated sa snares nila. as for the tuning of the snare? try mo masmahigpit yung bottom head kaysa sa batter head. same goes for the toms. para maskaunti yung echo. :-D
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: matteotanga on May 30, 2007, 01:36:32 AM
coated for me!!!! :-D
Title: Re: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: intake on May 30, 2007, 05:20:12 AM
basahin mo yung drum bible :-) kaso nakalimutan ko yung site..pero mahahanap mo yun dito :-)
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: peeves24 on May 30, 2007, 08:09:25 AM
Mga Tol nakabili na ako ng remo clear sa snare,kaya lang d ako marunong mag tono,may echo pag hinahampas,panu alisin ung echo?????
'overtone' ang technical term dun sa echo mo
higpitan mo pa yung tension o kaya lagyan mo ng tissue o kahit anong pang muffle para mabawasan
there's no such thing as 'di ako marunong magtono' in drums coz there is no right or wrong way of doing it. what may sound good to us may sound bad to you or vice versa so just experiment with your tension. makukuha mo rin yung gusto mong tunog balang araw
Title: Re: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: eiyhan on May 30, 2007, 08:26:33 AM
san po ba??... ndi ko xe alam kung san ko hhigpitan or luluwagan eh... help nmn oh.. bka macra ko tong snare.. hehhehe :-) :-)
Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 30, 2007, 08:49:40 AM
Salamat mga bro,akala ko overtune,overtone pala tawag,hehehe....try ko ung mga sinabi nyu,thanks ulit. :-D
Title: Re: Pde po Help?... onti plang xe nalalaman ko sa drumz
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 30, 2007, 08:54:55 AM
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Title: Re: snare drum help
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 30, 2007, 11:45:49 AM
Ang hirap pala mag tono ng snare,kainis....grrr.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: royalletones on May 30, 2007, 12:02:57 PM
tanong lang mga sir. what is the diference between remo ambassador sa remo encore (yung clear ba)?
which one is better?
thanks
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: blackhawk7a on May 30, 2007, 07:41:24 PM
a little experiment and a little patience mahahanap mo din ang tunog na gusto mo sa snare mo master blackhawk7a
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: nO RLY on May 31, 2007, 03:13:34 PM
at kung totono mo na yung drum heads mo, make sure na mamemeet niya yung preference mo. for example, kung gusto mo yung rebound ng pagpalo mo sa snare, eh hindi masyadong mag bounce, luwagan mo yung tension rods nung batter head mo. :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: kharz23 on May 31, 2007, 04:36:55 PM
mga dude...how would you characterize ung snare sound ni lars ulrich of metallica?fat,wet,cracky,open,pop,highly resonant? ...specifically ung snare sound nia sa S&M..hanep kac parang tagos hangang kaluluwa ung tunog nun..hehe. hindi nakakasawa pakingan..i like my snare to sound lyk dat especially sa live setting.. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on June 01, 2007, 12:10:59 AM
at kung totono mo na yung drum heads mo, make sure na mamemeet niya yung preference mo. for example, kung gusto mo yung rebound ng pagpalo mo sa snare, eh hindi masyadong mag bounce, luwagan mo yung tension rods nung batter head mo. :-)
huh? naguluhan ako ng konti :lol:.."luwagan" for more rebound? hindi ba baliktad? :?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: nO RLY on June 05, 2007, 04:58:00 PM
hehe, hinde. luwagan for less rebound. english nalang: if you want your snare drum's rebound to have a less bounce, loosen the drum's tension rods. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: rastah on August 07, 2007, 05:56:53 PM
guys question lang, kasi everytime na papaluin ko ung tom ko na malapit sa snare tumutunog ung chain sa ilalim, nag vavibrate ata pano ko ba ma eeliminate un... :? :? :?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: nO RLY on August 19, 2007, 01:53:42 PM
baka mahigpit yung tom mo. or baka masikip yung wire mo sa snare. luwagan mo yung snare wire or luwagan mo yung tension rods ng tom mo. :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on August 19, 2007, 06:16:51 PM
baka mahigpit yung tom mo. or baka masikip yung wire mo sa snare. luwagan mo yung snare wire or luwagan mo yung tension rods ng tom mo. :-)
actually it's the other way around, tightening your snares will most likely lessen the buzz; loosening it will add more.
@rastah
It makes the buzz sound because your tom and snare are closely tuned. :lol:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: rastah on August 20, 2007, 10:58:26 AM
what i did is i tighten the reso of my tom, and i think the pitch changed and it reduced the buzz but i retune the tom again.. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: nO RLY on August 20, 2007, 11:18:26 AM
tighter tom resos= shorter sustain. yup, it does lessen the buzz. :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on August 20, 2007, 06:46:06 PM
@rastah
your on the right path bro! :lol: it's a matter of experimenting, you'll gt it eventually
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: rastah on August 21, 2007, 08:06:32 AM
i got it accidentaly hehehe, cuz i like the suond of my snare when i tuned the reso tight so i tried it on my toms and accidentally it lessen the buzzes :lol:
Title: whats the best piccolo skin?
Post by: drums_08 on September 24, 2007, 09:32:03 AM
Hey guys newbie here.. and i just bought a FERNANDO piccolo steel snare 13"
im just wondering if okey na din ba yung tunog niya? kasi yung wooden mejo hindi maganda yung kahoy niya dun sa mga nakita kong stock sa store sa raon e.. pero i really want opted for a wooden piccolo talaga... but anyways since i already got a steel snare... I'm just wondering whats the best skin to use for it both batter and resonant.. and what kind of tuning?
is there any existing link bout this topic?
thanks guys... this forum site is really great!
Godbless!
Title: Re: whats the best piccolo skin?
Post by: plep on September 24, 2007, 11:17:10 AM
Di ko alam kung may topic na about piccolos in general, so ipopost ko na lang opinyon ko.
Hindi ka magkakamali sa Remo Coated Ambassador Batter / Clear Ambassador Snareside. Standard naman na yan e, at makukuha mo halos lahat ng gusto mong tunog sa combo na yan. Tsaka sa snareside nga pala, kahit hindi ganun kamamahalin yung gamit mo - okay na rin yung Fernando na snareside.
Kaso in case gusto mas specific sa tunog...
Kung gusto mo mas focused yung attack, either mag two-ply ka na head (Remo Pinstripe) or yung may dot sa gitna (Remo CS Dot). Kung gusto mo sobrang focused talaga, Evans Genera HD Dry na yan. Problema lang eh di ako sigurado kung okay ba availability ng Evans dito.
Kung gusto mo mas open at ma-overtone naman yung tunog (at dahil piccolo nga yan, siguro mas tama ito), okay na ang Remo Coated Ambassador / Evans Coated G1. Kung gusto mo mas open pa lalo, Remo Fiberskyn or Evans J1.
Gamit ko sa 3"x13" na snare ko, Fernando na resonant (nung bumili kasi ako, walang stock ng Remo... hanggang ngayun di pa ito bumibigay, so may kumpyansa na ako sa Fernando) at Fiberskyn na batter. Meron din ako CS Dot na naka-ready lang in case gusto ko bumalik sa mas focused na tunog.
Title: Re: whats the best piccolo skin?
Post by: drums_08 on September 24, 2007, 11:50:59 AM
bro salamat sa opinion mo.. pero panu kaya yung sa pagtotono ng mga skin?
Title: Re: whats the best piccolo skin?
Post by: MiguelAngelo on September 24, 2007, 12:23:34 PM
hey bro Mike here,
Actually bumili rin ako ng fernando ng piccolo, then after a few weeks I decided na ibenta ulit, kasi di ko feel yung tunog, eventhough nagpalit ako ng remo heads still the same nothing changed. Mas ok yung mga earlier ng labas ng fernando ng piccollo kaysa ngayon. payo ko sayo mag-ipon ka na lang then buy new na may tatak na talagang masasatisfy ka. Isa pa mahirap itono yang fernando.
Title: Re: whats the best piccolo skin?
Post by: Diadem on September 24, 2007, 05:34:57 PM
ingat sa mga fernando, lazer ng picollos esp the wood ones... madaling mag deform ang wood ng mga yan... simple tuning lng... loose thread agad mga lugs...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: 9_spiral on October 01, 2007, 10:39:33 AM
mga sir, pano kaya gagayahin ung tunog ng snare na gamit ni derek roddy dito? at anong snare kaya ito? tingin ko deep..
trip ko kasi ung tunog..
Title: snare batter-snare side combo
Post by: nikogulo on January 23, 2008, 11:52:05 AM
hello!
i want to know what skins you use for your snare drum? i use a 14x5.5 ultracast snare with coated ambassadors(sometimes for recording i will use pinstirpe) and an ambassador snare side. i want to try other combos of skins. please help me choose. i play rock. let me know where i can get them too :-)
if you wanna hear what i play just go to www.odysseylive.net/angulo
thanks for your help! niko
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: atong_damuho on January 23, 2008, 10:55:02 PM
sa aking luma at bugbog saradong fernando 14x3.5 piccolo snare. remo pinstripes at pdp reso. explanation: standard skins na gamit sa snare drums ng mga drum corps. tsaka mas matagal bago mabugbog ung skins sa lakas ng palo
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: humuncolus on January 26, 2008, 04:01:51 PM
maya steel 14"x5.5 - batter REMO Emperor X, resonant stock ng pearl nabutas yung fernando ko na snare side sayang sarap pa naman nung sa fernando
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: maplesyrup on January 27, 2008, 01:21:59 PM
Fernando 13" piccolo ni chololo (gig snare) top: Remo Ambassador (ill change it to remo controlled sound,may black dot sa gitna) buttom: kung ano mabili! minsan lazer(hirap maghanap ng pangilalim sa 13") Fernando 14x5 Fatty Bom Bom (practice snare) top: Remo Pinstripe buttom : remo clear (forgot kung ambassador or pinstripe)
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: daemonite on January 28, 2008, 08:21:57 AM
Tagal na pala nitong thread na ito hehehe....
My snare heads combo is....
14" Evans Power Center Reverse Dot and 14" Evans Snare Side Hazy 300
Di ko pa to nasubukan sa orig na snare eh, sa Lazer pa lang pero sarap na ng tunog nya. Tsaka sa wood pa lang ito. Try ko sa steel.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: plep on January 28, 2008, 10:14:10 PM
sa 13"x3" pearl brass piccolo: remo clear cs dot (old school!) batter (tight) fernando snareside (very tight)
sa 13"x5.5" black panther brass (parang ang hilig ko ata sa 13" brass snares): remo coated ambassador batter (medium tight) remo hazy ambassador snareside (tight)
kaso gusto ko subukan power center reverse dot... o kahit coated cs dot man lang.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: lil.drummerboy on January 29, 2008, 03:20:27 AM
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: drumster on February 14, 2008, 04:46:09 AM
Just an update on my snare drumhead setup...
*5.5"x14" Tama Starclassic Maple Batter: Evans G1 Coated Resonant: Evans Snare Side 300
*5"x13" Tama Artwood Maple Batter: Evans G1 Coated Resonant: Evans Snare Side 300
*5.5"x10" Black Panther Premium Maple Batter: Remo Ambassador Coated Resonant: Remo Ambassador Snare Side
My 10" Black Panther still has its stock heads. But once they're worn out, I plan to get Evans as replacements.
For my snares, I now prefer one-ply heads over those with built-in muffling. I want to get the most natural and most open sounds from my snare drums, and I don't want any muffling to get on the way. I'll only use muffling when needed (like in a recording situation, for example).
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: nikogulo on February 15, 2008, 10:12:37 AM
i cant seem to find an evans reverse dot power center skin and the remo emperor X in audiophile or JB.. who sells this stuff?
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: rhanen28 on February 15, 2008, 10:16:39 AM
i cant seem to find an evans reverse dot power center skin and the remo emperor X in audiophile or JB.. who sells this stuff?
Remo Emperor X is available in Megamall and Parksquare branches
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: blackhawk7a on March 05, 2008, 12:12:50 PM
Kapag nagtotono po ng bass drum?ganu po kaluwag,anung mas matibay pag maluwag o mahigpit??help naman po please....
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: drumster on March 05, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
^ OT... There's a bass drum tuning thread, and a bass drum muffling-related thread. Search for it.
Title: snare drum tuning
Post by: Bryce on April 14, 2008, 01:56:20 AM
can you give me tips on how to tune a snare drum? kung pwede po isasahin niyo.. step-by-step po kung pwede,, ang pangit kasi ng tunog ng snare ko e.. nakaka asar. remo ambassador powder coated gamit ko.. please help me..
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Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: plep on April 14, 2008, 08:45:48 AM
remo ambassador powder coated gamit ko.. please help me..
powder coated? pininturahan?
tips lang: 1. reso head determines pitch more than batter head 2. wag ka paikot magtono. criscrossing dapat. yung mga magkakatapat na lug, dapat pareho tono. 3. wag ka matakot na higpitan ang head kung utot pa rin yung tunog
Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: stiknstone on April 14, 2008, 08:50:41 AM
Sir why don't you try to look for Bob Gatzen in youtube..theres a lot of tips that you will learn from him..hope this will help you sir.. :-D
Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: daemonite on April 14, 2008, 10:27:52 AM
Please look for the snare drum tuning thread, andun lahat ng tips....
anyways, snares should be like either in the key of C# or D depende sa tugtugan mo. sabi ni bob gatzen....
Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: Bryce on April 14, 2008, 11:04:36 AM
sir criss cross tlga ako mag tono pero i cant get it right.. napanood ko na yung kay bob gatzen dati pa pero di ko tlga makuha kung pano e.. sinearch ko na rin yung snare tuning thread pero wla ytang lumabas sa search....
pano po ba yung adjustment ng net tska yung tension? ng reso at batter..? metal po tugtugan ko..
Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: daemonite on April 14, 2008, 11:35:53 AM
sir criss cross tlga ako mag tono pero i cant get it right.. napanood ko na yung kay bob gatzen dati pa pero di ko tlga makuha kung pano e.. sinearch ko na rin yung snare tuning thread pero wla ytang lumabas sa search....
#1 Tip: L-I-S-T-E-N. Wag ka magmadali, listen to your snare. ikaw at ikaw lang ang makakapagtono nyan sa gusto mo na tunog. Ganyan rin ako sa yo dati, i was always impatient tuning my kit. Hindi ko tuloy makuha ang gusto ko hanggang pinakinggan ko yung kit ko and narinig ko yung disctinct sound nya. Regardless kung ano genre mo. You have to listen to your drums to get your tone right. Tonal Tuning na rin gamitin mo. Yan yung sinasabi ko na may certain notes kang aabutin....
Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: Bryce on April 14, 2008, 11:42:19 AM
sir di ko pa po kasi alam yung mga notes na sinasabi niyo e.. di ko po siya alam honestly.. hehe.. need more infos nga e, sana nga matuloy yung sineset ko na eb sa east drummers thread.. punta po kayo to teach me how to tune drums..
Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: daemonite on April 14, 2008, 12:11:58 PM
Haha, good luck, taga Dagupan ako. Tonal Tuning is easy, kung may keyboard ka or anything that can generate consitent tones (elec piano, flute, etc. - meaning naka-set na permanently yung mga tono nya, hindi pwede gitara), itono mo according sa notes yung kit mo....
Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: drummerboy827 on April 14, 2008, 12:12:15 PM
Crank it up!!
Title: drumheads
Post by: ipao_1808 on May 21, 2008, 07:12:34 PM
ano kaya magandang combination na drumheads para sa snare? ano rin mas maganda, remo o evans? thanks.
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Title: Re: snare drum tuning
Post by: mondi99060451 on May 22, 2008, 03:50:46 PM
pag pangit ang quality ng snare drum at heads, ito lang ang pinaka the best gawin... higpitan mo sa pinaka max level na kaya ng powers mo (both sides) pati yung snares, higpitan mo ng swabe lang... ewan ko kung hindi umayos tunog niyan... yung nga lang, generic sound ng snare ang ma generate mo... hindi yung distinct na type mo talaga... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on May 30, 2008, 04:28:31 PM
yung tono ng taas dapat nasa c# sA batter head yung, at dun sa reso side (ilalim) naman dapat sa A. yun lang po. at try nyo rin lagyan ng plastic sa syde ng snare. marami po nun sa Lazer, may nakita ako sa SM Fairview Lazer.
thanks a lot. Keep on drumming
Title: Snare Drum Tuning
Post by: arsenal_vin31 on July 01, 2008, 01:47:57 PM
I usually tune my snares tightly (snare side is a bit tighter than the batter side).
Kayo po ba? Ano preference niyo sa pagtono ng snare drums niyo?
Meron kasi akong maple piccolo snare ngayon, ano po sa tingin niyo ang bagay na tuning for this one? Should I loosen up the snare side head? I'd like the sound to be in the popping sound type and not the cracking ones.
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Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: drumster on July 01, 2008, 03:49:05 PM
In relation to this topic, you can also check these related threads...
What's your snare drum head combination? --- http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,33416.0.html
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Darel on July 01, 2008, 11:04:30 PM
ipon ka na lang sir...bili ka ng bago..bibili ka na rin lang sir yung maganda na bilhin mo... :-) :lol: :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on July 02, 2008, 07:58:51 PM
ahm, bro gento yan. depende kasi yan sa type ng tunog na gusto mo. kung tunog bakal at parang walang snare. try to use snare mutes. available sa lazer yun, mura lang 420 ata buong set (12" 13" 14" 16" 22") then try to higpitan yung snare wires . meron kasing mga tension rods yan sa gilid, iba naman tornilyo. bsta dapat laging nasa gitna ung snare wires or strainers then higpitan mo na with the help of throw of.
yun lang tips ko. try to use din ng metronome. ang batterhead always c# at reso side sa A. ayun daw yung basic tunning from boypalo. =-D
enjoy drumming!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: bahayyugyugan on October 19, 2008, 01:17:13 AM
ano ba maganda na type ng skin, preferably remo heads sa mga toms?(12" 13" 16") combination of batter and reso side.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: mambo on November 17, 2008, 04:35:22 AM
hingi lang sana ako ng advise, gamit ko kasi 14" snare ng night hawk, gawa sya ng gretsch pero lower end nya to. ano kaya ang magandang head dito para mas maganda yung tunog niya. kaya kaya na maging katunog ng black panther snares to?
at which do you prefer, piccolo o black panther snares?
maraming salamat!!!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: bibcute on November 17, 2008, 05:03:27 PM
tanung lang mga sir.. pano po ba ma achieve yung Malutong na tunog ng snare.? Kaya po ba kahit steel snare lang ang gamit ko (generic)?? o sa heads lang ang problema? :?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 18, 2008, 08:59:11 PM
syempre the head always matter. pili ka yung magandang class na, tapos If I'm not mistaken, yung kapal din snare ay nakakaapekto.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: unnailed on September 12, 2009, 10:06:27 AM
ok lang po ba yung remo encore na head? balak ko po yun ang bibilin ka para sa 12 13 14 16 22... ok po ba yun?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: gpot on January 27, 2010, 03:26:01 PM
mga sir. newby question lang po if i may.
kasi i've been reading this thread from the start and pansin ko lang, in order to achieve a particular sound (tune) ang paglalaruan mo yung heads and yung snare wires.
so does this mean if i have two snares with the same dimensions and same method of tuning was applied, magiging pareho din ang sound?
kasi, i'm trying to figure out, how does one decide in choosing a snare, particularly on choosing signature snares (yung mga super mahal type)? does signature snares have their own unique sound (as in unique sa kanila lang no matter what amount of tuning is applied)?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: onadtot08 on January 27, 2010, 07:14:43 PM
bili ka nalang ng piccollo...tma ba spelling???parang naconfuse ako..
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: ChocoMani on March 31, 2010, 10:35:27 PM
14x5.5 Sonor Force 507 steel snare 8 lugs Evans G2 coated on batter side Evans hazy 300 snare side
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: mlakingcrayola on March 31, 2010, 11:50:52 PM
ludwig accent series snare batter - evans g1 coated resonant - evans hazy 300 :-D :-D
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: tristanjchavez on April 04, 2010, 07:33:47 PM
13x3 Pearl Steel Piccolo Snare Batter Head- Remo Coated Ambassador Resonant Head - Remo Ambassador Snare Side :-D
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: digidikdik on April 06, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
sir bakit pala naka coated yung reso ng mapex at tama mo? may effect ba yun? thanks!
un ang mura eh... ung encore coated... effect sa sound? ung TAMA ko mas naging fat ang tunog...(parang pok)... ung mapex naman naging fat na parang may pagka ringy kahit na wood snare sya... so far un lang ang naobserve ko... i like the sound though...
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: makinao on April 15, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: deaths on April 16, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
sir anung tuning para makuha ko ang tunog ng snare ni vic mercado eto po yung video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2Dmgnopmo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl2Dmgnopmo&feature=related)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: mambo on April 16, 2010, 10:54:52 AM
kasi i've been reading this thread from the start and pansin ko lang, in order to achieve a particular sound (tune) ang paglalaruan mo yung heads and yung snare wires.
so does this mean if i have two snares with the same dimensions and same method of tuning was applied, magiging pareho din ang sound?
kasi, i'm trying to figure out, how does one decide in choosing a snare, particularly on choosing signature snares (yung mga super mahal type)? does signature snares have their own unique sound (as in unique sa kanila lang no matter what amount of tuning is applied)?
ano pang reason para gumawa sila ng steel, brass, maple, mahogany, hammered steel?
its like wood absorbs more sound than steel. and i thinks IMO steel snares are more aggressive. (if im right)
kasi sir iba ibang characteristics ang binibigay ng snares depending sa materials na ginamit at . they may be on the same tune/ pitch but different in character. kumbaga parehong mataas tung tono. im finding it hard to explain now so here... compare this vids of 2 snares, a wood and a steel showing low to high tuning bp hammered steel:
bp deep forest walnut snare:
feature=related
di ko sure kung tama ako pero yung ibang sig snares, looks lang naiba pero same materials.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: gpot on April 17, 2010, 01:40:41 AM
ano pang reason para gumawa sila ng steel, brass, maple, mahogany, hammered steel?
its like wood absorbs more sound than steel. and i thinks IMO steel snares are more aggressive. (if im right)
kasi sir iba ibang characteristics ang binibigay ng snares depending sa materials na ginamit at . they may be on the same tune/ pitch but different in character. kumbaga parehong mataas tung tono. im finding it hard to explain now so here... compare this vids of 2 snares, a wood and a steel showing low to high tuning bp hammered steel:
bp deep forest walnut snare:
feature=related
di ko sure kung tama ako pero yung ibang sig snares, looks lang naiba pero same materials.
thanks sir
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: deaths on April 17, 2010, 10:23:23 PM
msa sir maganda b kpag 6 lugs lng ang snare???
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: mambo on April 17, 2010, 10:42:33 PM
depende sa size ng snare, kung 10" ang diameter ng snare mo just like yung Mike Mangini Sig Snare, tama lang na 6 lang yung lugs, pero kung 14" yung diamater ng snare mo, it would be better off having 10 lugs...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jckazs on April 28, 2010, 11:49:29 PM
nice basis for snare head selection...(coated ambassador, powerstroke 3, coated controlled sound head). The selection pretty much represents the drum heads with the same specs from other manufacturers
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: mambo on April 29, 2010, 12:04:07 AM
nice basis for snare head selection...(coated ambassador, powerstroke 3, coated controlled sound head). The selection pretty much represents the drum heads with the same specs from other manufacturers
wow nice find sir!
gusto ko nung powerstroke 3! :evil:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: deaths on May 03, 2010, 08:07:59 AM
mga sir anung maganda sa resonant para sa snare kelangan b clear, coated o pde rin 2-ply??
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: daleee on May 03, 2010, 11:10:28 AM
mga sir anung maganda sa resonant para sa snare kelangan b clear, coated o pde rin 2-ply??
masyado rin makapal yung 2 ply, di makakakanta yung drums mo.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: deaths on May 03, 2010, 07:09:43 PM
mga sir gusto kung makuha yung sound ni carter beauford sa snare niya fernando stock ung reso ko tas remo ambassador coated sa batter sabe ni SIr riff palitan ko daw yung reso ko ng remo diplomat.tas ung tuning daw 70%tension sa baba tas 90% sa taas.anu pa po mga suggestions niu 14 by 5 wood premier olympic snare gamit ko.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: daleee on May 03, 2010, 07:28:23 PM
mga sir gusto kung makuha yung sound ni carter beauford sa snare niya fernando stock ung reso ko tas remo ambassador coated sa batter sabe ni SIr riff palitan ko daw yung reso ko ng remo diplomat.tas ung tuning daw 70%tension sa baba tas 90% sa taas.anu pa po mga suggestions niu 14 by 5 wood premier olympic snare gamit ko.
If you wanna go with the drumheads that Carter Beauford is using, Remo Coated Emperor for the batter, Remo Clear Ambassador for the reso... http://www.davematthewsband.com/carters-drum-kit
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Brady on May 03, 2010, 07:32:33 PM
Hello sirs,
what are your thoughts on using tape to muffle the overtones?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: deaths on May 04, 2010, 06:23:40 AM
Quote
If you wanna go with the drumheads that Carter Beauford is using, Remo Coated Emperor for the batter, Remo Clear Ambassador for the reso... http://www.davematthewsband.com/carters-drum-kit
pero gusto ko sana maski hindi kami magkapareho ng heads basta parang halos malapit sa tunog niya yung maku2ha parang funky ang gus2 kong preference ko eh..pahelp naman mga sir.... :-D
parang ganito gusto kung tunog di ko lang alam paano maku2ha ito by tuning process kung anu ang mas mataas ung batter ba o yung resonant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jftcvwe8JuU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jftcvwe8JuU&feature=related)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: rz3znik on May 08, 2010, 10:28:03 PM
sir pwede nyo po band i identify kung anung sound ung snare ni zac farro. I mean ung tuning nya pano po gawin ung ganun.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: daleee on May 08, 2010, 11:14:51 PM
sir pwede nyo po band i identify kung anung sound ung snare ni zac farro. I mean ung tuning nya pano po gawin ung ganun.
mag quote ka ng video para mas madaling ma identify kung alin...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: rz3znik on May 09, 2010, 09:56:59 PM
un sa bagong album po ng paramore. anung tuning po ung snare ni zac farro?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jmdesign on May 10, 2010, 12:47:12 AM
Anyone here uses a Evans EC Reverse dot snare batter skin?
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: pauldavid_7 on July 02, 2010, 10:15:32 PM
Im gonna buy tomorrow a new snare head..
Its for a steel i need that crack sound. dry i think! Bday gift ng mom ko so kahit magkanoo ung head pwede! magjajamming pa kami sa july 6 help please ASAP =)) :mrgreen: i love you sa tutulong :D
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: popsicle on July 03, 2010, 09:38:24 AM
DC snare -remo coated ambassador x (batter) -remo hazy ambassador (resonant)
Sonor Special Edition -aquarian texture coated (batter) -aquarian high performance (resonant)
Its for a steel i need that crack sound. dry i think! Bday gift ng mom ko so kahit magkanoo ung head pwede! magjajamming pa kami sa july 6 help please ASAP =)) :mrgreen: i love you sa tutulong :D
Ito, kahit walang I love you pare: :-D
Pearl 6.5" x 14" Steel: TOP - Remo Coated Ambassador, BOTTOM - Remo Clear snare side
Tama ang buzz and litaw pa rin ang lutong ng overtones ng steel snare. Suggestion: tonohin mo ng tight. magchochoke yung head mag-isa. Hindi mo na kailangan ng muffling. Basta keep the snare wires medium tight lang, and not too tight, para litaw rin yung body ng snare mo.
Yan e unless naka piccolo ka. hehehe.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: pmack on July 06, 2010, 01:55:52 PM
para sa steel sheel, kung gusto mo makuha yung overtones and crack, you can't go wrong with coated ambassdor top. pwede rin yung aquarian texture coated (na walang power dot).
kung gusto mo mas "beefy" or fat ang tunog go for double ply's like remo emperor x's or yung texture coated na may power dot.
yung sa snare side head naman go for evans dry or remo hazy ambassadors. para litaw pa rin yung articulation sa snare at mga multong nota.
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: pauldavid_7 on July 06, 2010, 08:34:13 PM
sawakas after 7 years na paghihintay ng pagpalit ng heads eto na :) Super satisfied ako sa sound
Ambassador(Batter) Clear(Resonant)
Satisified thanks sa opinions
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: drummaniac on July 09, 2010, 10:46:15 AM
mga sir ano kyang magandang head combination sa brass na snare?
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: jckazs on July 09, 2010, 04:23:02 PM
Try mo coated emperor batter, ambassador reso
The thick batter head will make your brass drum sound fat and warm. Parang wood snare na me metallic ring
Ayos din ambassador both batter and reso. High pitched na ringy
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: cholok3 on July 10, 2010, 02:25:38 AM
The thick batter head will make your brass drum sound fat and warm. Parang wood snare na me metallic ring
Ayos din ambassador both batter and reso. High pitched na ringy
Masubukan nga ang coated emperor..thanks sir jckazs
Title: Re: What's your snare drum head combination?
Post by: glennaui on July 21, 2010, 03:26:50 PM
Just ordered Remo Emperor Clear 12", 14" and 16" for my toms and Remo Emperor Smooth White 14" for my snare kay sir Vinci or drumshop...
Is this a good choice of set of heads?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on October 02, 2010, 02:21:55 AM
mga sir pano ba gagawin sa snare drum yung medyo may tunog bakal (parang may echo), sensya na di ko pa alam mga tamang terms sa pag describe ng sound eh haha. lalo na pag rimshots, matigas na parang kumakatok sa kahoy yung tunog nya. ganun ba talaga sa flanged hoops?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 02, 2010, 04:28:33 AM
mga sir pano ba gagawin sa snare drum yung medyo may tunog bakal (parang may echo), sensya na di ko pa alam mga tamang terms sa pag describe ng sound eh haha. lalo na pag rimshots, matigas na parang kumakatok sa kahoy yung tunog nya. ganun ba talaga sa flanged hoops?
use single ply heads, swabeng response nun sa snare mo lalo na kung steel ang gamit mo, mas effective. btw, overtone(s) ang term bro! :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on October 02, 2010, 02:05:24 PM
^pano po malalaman kung single ply yung heads na gamit ko? yung sa hoops sir wala ba kinalaman? ano difference sa tunog ng rimshots ng flanged? thanks po sir riff :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: daleee on October 02, 2010, 02:16:09 PM
^pano po malalaman kung single ply yung heads na gamit ko? yung sa hoops sir wala ba kinalaman? ano difference sa tunog ng rimshots ng flanged? thanks po sir riff :-)
kapag double ply, kita mong may 2 mylar na pinagpatong plus kita mo yung oil na nilagay para magseparate yung plys ng head.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on October 02, 2010, 02:50:49 PM
hmm...di kaya single ply na to? di ko po kasi makita yung sinasabi nyo haha
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: daleee on October 02, 2010, 02:52:30 PM
kung wala kang nakikitang oil, at pag tinouch mo yung both sides ng head eh parang isang ply lang talaga, single ply lang talaga yan
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on October 02, 2010, 03:54:17 PM
haha ang engs ko, kaya pala di ganun yung tunog kasi nilagyan ko ng muffler na nabili ko sa lazer:)) yung bilog sya na plastic na nilalagay sa ibabaw? eh natanggal ko sya accidentally...ayun bigla naging ganun tunog:))
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on October 02, 2010, 04:02:59 PM
ayun, nasobrahan naman sa overtone:)) kakatuwa to ha hahaha :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on October 02, 2010, 04:06:58 PM
mga ser may mga naririnig akong snare drum na parang tunog papel(sana naiintindihan niyo yung gusto kong sabihin)..pano ginagawa yun? ang ganda para saken e :-D super :mrgreen: thanks :lol:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 02, 2010, 04:18:49 PM
mga ser may mga naririnig akong snare drum na parang tunog papel(sana naiintindihan niyo yung gusto kong sabihin)..pano ginagawa yun? ang ganda para saken e :-D super :mrgreen: thanks :lol:
loosen the reso and chains (snare wires) sa snare mo
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on October 02, 2010, 04:31:27 PM
loosen the reso and chains (snare wires) sa snare mo
aba oo nga no?! ayos!!! salamat ser riff_66603 :-D nagawa ko na :-D still, kailangan ko pa rin mamaster ang art ng pagtune ng drums :mrgreen: thanks ulit ser :lol:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 02, 2010, 04:47:17 PM
aba oo nga no?! ayos!!! salamat ser riff_66603 :-D nagawa ko na :-D still, kailangan ko pa rin mamaster ang art ng pagtune ng drums :mrgreen: thanks ulit ser :lol:
the style that works best for me is the 2 key tuning technique. mas even kasi yung tension na nakukuha ko kesa tuning with just a single key alone. same pattern pa din pero faster and easier, not to mention consistent yung tonong nakukuha ko. but then again, nothing beats a good ear, charged to experience that is! :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on October 02, 2010, 05:10:56 PM
the style that works best for me is the 2 key tuning technique. mas even kasi yung tension na nakukuha ko kesa tuning with just a single key alone. same pattern pa din pero faster and easier, not to mention consistent yung tonong nakukuha ko. but then again, nothing beats a good ear, charged to experience that is! :wink:
ibang klase ka ser riff_66603! :lol: masubukan nga yan :wink:
ser question lang, may pork pies ba tayo dito sa pinas?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 02, 2010, 05:13:04 PM
nope! not unless may magbitaw or magship ng products nila.. pero in terms of being an official dealer wala pa.
ahh..ok ser! sayang ganda pa naman nun..heard it from ser Vic Mercado e...anyway off topic na tayo dito ser..hehe..baka magalit sila mods..salamat ulit ser :mrgreen:
"loosen the reso and wires" 8-)
happy drumming!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: zachki on October 03, 2010, 12:18:39 AM
hi po,
pa help lng po sa pag decipher ng tuning ng snare na to,
anong klaseng snare po ba yan? steel or wood?
tsaka anong skin po gamit?
and oo nga po pala alin po ba ung batter? ung top or ung bottom?
salamat po^^
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 03, 2010, 12:41:23 AM
pa help lng po sa pag decipher ng tuning ng snare na to,
anong klaseng snare po ba yan? steel or wood?
tsaka anong skin po gamit?
and oo nga po pala alin po ba ung batter? ung top or ung bottom?
salamat po^^
sounds like a wood snare to me.. too dead sounding though IMO! :lol:
regarding sa skin, mahirap malaman kung anong exactly ginamit niya (with the video clip alone) pero assuming na ganyan siya kalakas pumalo, either double ply na coated or coated with dot (or reverse dot) ang batter niya; which leads to your final question's answer - batter yung top/reso yung bottom.. :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: zachki on October 03, 2010, 01:36:19 AM
salamat po kuya riff!
ano po ba mga tips nyo to make a snare sound heavy?
ung walang (tung) na tunog just pure snare heavy and parang firing gun?
kasi cheap lang po ung drum ko ngaun GTX lang
are there any tips to home modify my snare?
thanks po ulit
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: daleee on October 03, 2010, 02:00:56 AM
ano po ba mga tips nyo to make a snare sound heavy?
ung walang (tung) na tunog just pure snare heavy and parang firing gun?
kasi cheap lang po ung drum ko ngaun GTX lang
are there any tips to home modify my snare?
thanks po ulit
para mawala yung "tung", lagyan mo ng O-ring muffler yung snare drum mo.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: bibcute on October 31, 2010, 08:30:39 AM
Good Day! tanung ko lang kung mga magkano ang REMO EMPEROR COATED '14 and REMO EMPEROR Clear '12 and '16 for my toms.? This is the sound I want to achieve on my snare:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Nintendork022 on October 31, 2010, 06:32:17 PM
Tip ko lang po ah, First: Turn the snare off, pag nakita mo na yung strands ng strainer mo eh parang hiwa-hiwalay that means na kailangan mo na siyang palitan, sapagkat kahit anong tono ang gawin mo hindi siya mag-poproduce ng kursonada mong tunog. Second: Maybe it's all about the head, in my opinion baka naman sobrang tight po ng pagkakatono mo or di kaya sa condition at type ng head. In my experience nakagamit na ako ng clear na head, it was a remo pinstripe 14", at kahit anong tono ang gawin ko, parating lumalabas yung "toung" na sound. Kaya from then on I switched to coated, pero it depends kasi to the user of what snare sound they like, wether it's "ringy" sound or real "thud". Third: It really is about tuning, kahit ano po ang gawin nyo kung hindi talaga tama ang tuning nyo talagang hindi po ninyo makakamit yung desired snare sound. Hope this helps. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on December 12, 2010, 10:43:34 PM
Braders, been longing to this snare sound.
I have a Gretsch Catalina Maple 6''x14'' Snare Drum. Pano ko kaya makukuha ang tono na yan? :oops: Hirap na hirap na ko, I bought an Evans Genera HD Dry batter and Evans Hazy 300 reso..
Sana matulungan niyo ko, inosente ako sa pagtono :oops: :cry:
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: matt04 on January 21, 2011, 10:35:32 PM
Sir patulong. ano magandang drum head na gamitin para sa black panther 12x7 cherry maple? pang recording. :-D
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: tyrande101 on January 21, 2011, 10:38:17 PM
mga sir sino po may gamit sa inyo na catalina maple na snare? help naman mo sa pagtune.. thanks
libre ako sa weekend. gusto mo kita tayo sa festi tapos tulungan na kita mag-tono. did the same thing for vhinming last time with his snare, ok naman yung kinalabasan sabi niya! :lol:
BTW, medyo mahirap din talaga mag-suggest ng tuning thru text sorry! :-D
Title: Re: GRETSCH Drums thread
Post by: maricanon on April 27, 2011, 10:00:34 PM
libre ako sa weekend. gusto mo kita tayo sa festi tapos tulungan na kita mag-tono. did the same thing for vhinming last time with his snare, ok naman yung kinalabasan sabi niya! :lol:
BTW, medyo mahirap din talaga mag-suggest ng tuning thru text sorry! :-D
sir dito po ako province eh.. may pa balik ko jan.. ginawa ko po ung sinabi mo yun nga lang mukhang di ata tagala ako marunong.. or hindi ko lang mapagtyagaan.. hehe..
pasensya na din po pala sir medyo makulit ako at mahilig magtanung.. hehe :-)
Title: Re: GRETSCH Drums thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on April 28, 2011, 08:14:32 AM
sir dito po ako province eh.. may pa balik ko jan.. ginawa ko po ung sinabi mo yun nga lang mukhang di ata tagala ako marunong.. or hindi ko lang mapagtyagaan.. hehe..
pasensya na din po pala sir medyo makulit ako at mahilig magtanung.. hehe :-)
ok lang yun! maganda nga na mahilig ka magtanong, that's the only way para mas madami kang matutunan. :wink:
BTW, akala ko nasa sucat ka kaya nag-suggest ako this weekend hehe. txt me na lang if ever kung dito ka na ulit metro area, dalhin mo na lang yung snare para matono na natin. :-)
Title: Re: GRETSCH Drums thread
Post by: maricanon on April 28, 2011, 10:27:45 AM
ok lang yun! maganda nga na mahilig ka magtanong, that's the only way para mas madami kang matutunan. :wink:
BTW, akala ko nasa sucat ka kaya nag-suggest ako this weekend hehe. txt me na lang if ever kung dito ka na ulit metro area, dalhin mo na lang yung snare para matono na natin. :-)
sige po sir salamat po.. :wink:
Title: Re: GRETSCH Drums thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on April 28, 2011, 07:58:06 PM
ok lang yun! maganda nga na mahilig ka magtanong, that's the only way para mas madami kang matutunan. :wink:
Mismo master Riff! :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: food.vulture on May 01, 2011, 04:50:00 AM
hi and thumbs up for this thread! happy drum tuning everyone!! :-) 'the more you tune, the more tuning will become a skill rather than an experiment. you practice your paradiddles for hours, don't you? well, tune your drums once a month, a week, a day!' - ed hartman, from an article about drum tuning
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: peeves24 on May 01, 2011, 01:25:13 PM
recently ko lang din narealize: ang daming gumagawa ng mga drum covers tapos nilalagay sa youtube na hindi ok yung tunog ng snare/kit at yung video mismo ang magandang tool para matutunan mo ang tuning.
you can use any recording device: cellphones, digicams - does not need to be highend basta hindi sabog yung tunog.
hindi mo kailangan na irecord habang nag tutune ka. tune mo yung drum muna then play it while recording. review the sound. retune the drum. play it again and record yourself. do it over and over until you are happy with sound coming from the recording.
if the drum sounds good on your recording device, it will sound exceptional live.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on May 01, 2011, 02:30:13 PM
recently ko lang din narealize: ang daming gumagawa ng mga drum covers tapos nilalagay sa youtube na hindi ok yung tunog ng snare/kit at yung video mismo ang magandang tool para matutunan mo ang tuning.
you can use any recording device: cellphones, digicams - does not need to be highend basta hindi sabog yung tunog.
hindi mo kailangan na irecord habang nag tutune ka. tune mo yung drum muna then play it while recording. review the sound. retune the drum. play it again and record yourself. do it over and over until you are happy with sound coming from the recording.
if the drum sounds good on your recording device, it will sound exceptional live.
+1 Another great discovery master peeves! :-D Subukan ko mamaya :lol:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: misterculala070590 on July 07, 2011, 11:32:38 AM
Good day,buhay pa po ba 2ng thread?newbie hir d2 sa PM:) tanong ko lng kung anu magandang heads kahit generic ung piccolo shell..tsaka anu magandang set up na mejo mura but still maganda 2nog..my ngbigay kc ng piccolo saken,ok pa ung item,parang bago pa.di kc nagagamet..iset.up ko sana ng maganda ung kalalabasan..salamat:)
pls avoid text speak - mod
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on July 07, 2011, 02:37:38 PM
Good day,buhay pa po ba 2ng thread?newbie hir d2 sa PM:) tanong ko lng kung anu magandang heads kahit generic ung piccolo shell..tsaka anu magandang set up na mejo mura but still maganda 2nog..my ngbigay kc ng piccolo saken,ok pa ung item,parang bago pa.di kc nagagamet..iset.up ko sana ng maganda ung kalalabasan..salamat:)
Welcome to Pinoydrums sir! Evans Genera Dry or Remo Coated Ambassador are the perfect choices for Snare Drums :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: misterculala070590 on July 09, 2011, 12:06:08 PM
Welcome to Pinoydrums sir! Evans Genera Dry or Remo Coated Ambassador are the perfect choices for Snare Drums :-)
salamat po ng marami sir:D nakahanap po ako coated ambassador para sa top..tanong ko lang kung ok po ba ung remo renaissance para sa bottom.. Ok ba ung combination nito? Coated ambassador for top..then Renaissance for bottom..inosente talaga ko pagdating sa snare..sana matulungan niyo ko:-) salamat po ulit..
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on July 09, 2011, 01:01:23 PM
salamat po ng marami sir:D nakahanap po ako coated ambassador para sa top..tanong ko lang kung ok po ba ung remo renaissance para sa bottom.. Ok ba ung combination nito? Coated ambassador for top..then Renaissance for bottom..inosente talaga ko pagdating sa snare..sana matulungan niyo ko:-) salamat po ulit..
Sorry sir hindi ko po kabisado line up ng Remo Heads eh.. Pero ok po yang Remo Coated Ambassador sa top head ng Snare Drum.. "Best choice" yan ika nga.. Yun nga lang dahil di ko kabisado mga heads ng Remo, so hindi ko po alam kung ano talaga yung mga pang bottom heads sa Snares..
I'm using Evans Genera Dry on batter head and Evans Hazy 300 on bottom snare side.. Hindi ko lang po alam kung ano yung kapareho ng Evans Hazy 300 sa mga products ng Remo..
Sana matulungan tayo ng mga kapatid naten dito masabi kung anong magandang pang bottom snare head ng Remo :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: misterculala070590 on July 10, 2011, 12:31:23 PM
Sorry sir hindi ko po kabisado line up ng Remo Heads eh.. Pero ok po yang Remo Coated Ambassador sa top head ng Snare Drum.. "Best choice" yan ika nga.. Yun nga lang dahil di ko kabisado mga heads ng Remo, so hindi ko po alam kung ano talaga yung mga pang bottom heads sa Snares..
I'm using Evans Genera Dry on batter head and Evans Hazy 300 on bottom snare side.. Hindi ko lang po alam kung ano yung kapareho ng Evans Hazy 300 sa mga products ng Remo..
Sana matulungan tayo ng mga kapatid naten dito masabi kung anong magandang pang bottom snare head ng Remo :-)
salamat ulit sir:) bagong kaalaman..ehe siguro the safest bottom heads is clear ambassador,for coated ambassador..hehe kakasabi lang ng JB phil kanina hazy ambassador sir..baka sounds like hazy 300:) parehas hazy..(watta theory..haha) shoot na cguro un nu sir? Tanong ulit ako:D kung pano matotono ung snare (6lugs) ..salamat sa pagshare ng kaalaman ser:)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 11, 2011, 06:08:55 PM
salamat ulit sir:) bagong kaalaman..ehe siguro the safest bottom heads is clear ambassador,for coated ambassador..hehe kakasabi lang ng JB phil kanina hazy ambassador sir..baka sounds like hazy 300:) parehas hazy..(watta theory..haha) shoot na cguro un nu sir? Tanong ulit ako:D kung pano matotono ung snare (6lugs) ..salamat sa pagshare ng kaalaman ser:)
basta alternating dapat yung manner ng pagtono mo. madaming videos sa youtube na sobrang makakatulong since makikita mo kung paano yung tamang paraan ng pagtono. regarding sa remo-evans comparison, this may help out mga kapatid! :wink:
basta alternating dapat yung manner ng pagtono mo. madaming videos sa youtube na sobrang makakatulong since makikita mo kung paano yung tamang paraan ng pagtono. regarding sa remo-evans comparison, this may help out mga kapatid! :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sakurano on July 20, 2011, 07:33:56 PM
eto da best pre. tanggalin mo lhat ng screw or disassemble mo yang snare mo pre. tpos linisin mo ng mabuti, wag basang basahan ah? tpos sikipan mo ung snare mo. habang sinisikipan mo, hanapin mo ung tunog na gusto mo. pero syempre may pattern pa din ung pag totono ng drums, dpat alam mo. ako ganun lng ginawa ko. effictive yan dre. yan ung mga damoves!
pls avoid text speak - mod
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: misterculala070590 on July 21, 2011, 06:24:23 PM
eto da best pre. tanggalin mo lhat ng screw or disassemble mo yang snare mo pre. tpos linisin mo ng mabuti, wag basang basahan ah? tpos sikipan mo ung snare mo. habang sinisikipan mo, hanapin mo ung tunog na gusto mo. pero syempre may pattern pa din ung pag totono ng drums, dpat alam mo. ako ganun lng ginawa ko. effictive yan dre. yan ung mga damoves!
pls avoid text speak - mod
salamat ser:) sana matono ko ng matiwasay yung snare:) kahit generic lang sana lumabas yung trip kong tunog:)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: dreendroid on July 31, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
Sa tingin nio nasa tono drums ko? hehe :-D Just wanna hear on your part
Stock heads lang po yan (TAMA Powercraft)
Title: HOW TO TUNE AN AUX/SECONDARY SNARE?
Post by: migs_23 on August 04, 2011, 11:28:22 AM
Good Day Fellas.! Maybe y'all could help me how to tune my secondary snare properly, alam ko na dapat, iba sa primary mo ang tunog, yun lang. i want a phat cracky sound. im using a Marc Quinones Snare ;) please help
Title: Re: HOW TO TUNE AN AUX/SECONDARY SNARE?
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 05, 2011, 12:28:51 AM
Good Day Fellas.! Maybe y'all could help me how to tune my secondary snare properly, alam ko na dapat, iba sa primary mo ang tunog, yun lang. i want a phat cracky sound. im using a Marc Quinones Snare ;) please help
tune your batter higher than your reso and set your snare tension to medium tight. phat crack guaranteed! :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: migs_23 on August 05, 2011, 08:28:58 AM
thank you brother ;)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: oziekins on November 08, 2011, 05:03:54 PM
mga sir patulong naman meron akong fernando (wood) piccolo snare hindi ko cya maitono kahit ano gawin ko ang tunog nya tong tong tong.. hinatak ko na ng sobra ung wire pero loose pdin ung tunog nya tingin nyo guys palitan ko ba ung spring??
pls avoid text speak - mod
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 08, 2011, 06:43:12 PM
mga sir patulong naman meron akong fernando (wood) piccolo snare hindi ko cya maitono kahit ano gawin ko ang tunog nya tong tong tong.. hinatak ko na ng sobra ung wire pero loose pdin ung tunog nya tingin nyo guys palitan ko ba ung spring??
pls avoid text speak - mod
change your heads (both batter and reso), check mo kung pantay pa yung bearing edges ng snare, tune it slowly but surely finding the sweet spot as you go along. walang panget na snare drum sa drummer na matiyagang magtono. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: geremii on November 09, 2011, 12:32:34 AM
ung snare ko parang ewan. malabo ung tunog pag pinalo mo sa gilid (sabog snare sound) pero pag sa gitna ko naman paluin ayos naman? bat ganun? may naka experience naba neto? cheap lang kasi snare ko eh. pero na coated ambassador sya. pero ung reso generic lang HELP
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: drummerspoundharder on November 09, 2011, 01:08:40 AM
ung snare ko parang ewan. malabo ung tunog pag pinalo mo sa gilid (sabog snare sound) pero pag sa gitna ko naman paluin ayos naman? bat ganun? may naka experience naba neto? cheap lang kasi snare ko eh. pero na coated ambassador sya. pero ung reso generic lang HELP
snare ko rin ganiyan. pearl sensitone 14x5.5 steel na naka ambassador X. hindi kaya normal lang yun?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: oziekins on November 09, 2011, 01:31:30 AM
change your heads (both batter and reso), check mo kung pantay pa yung bearing edges ng snare, tune it slowly but surely finding the sweet spot as you go along. walang panget na snare drum sa drummer na matiyagang magtono. :-D
naka remo skin na ako sa top sir pero ung bottom ko stock lang.. loose tlga ung spring pag pinapalo ko.. sir sorry sa tanong ko ha pero ano ung bearing edges? un ba ung pinaka metal rim na nilalagran ng mga screws? medyo newbie pa kasi ako sa drum tuning kaya nanga2pa pa..
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 09, 2011, 02:58:47 AM
ung snare ko parang ewan. malabo ung tunog pag pinalo mo sa gilid (sabog snare sound) pero pag sa gitna ko naman paluin ayos naman? bat ganun? may naka experience naba neto? cheap lang kasi snare ko eh. pero na coated ambassador sya. pero ung reso generic lang HELP
try adjusting the snare (wires) and retune both batter and reso. dapat pantay yan kahit saan ka pumalo. :-)
naka remo skin na ako sa top sir pero ung bottom ko stock lang.. loose tlga ung spring pag pinapalo ko.. sir sorry sa tanong ko ha pero ano ung bearing edges? un ba ung pinaka metal rim na nilalagran ng mga screws? medyo newbie pa kasi ako sa drum tuning kaya nanga2pa pa..
anong spring? if your pertaining to the wires underneath your snare drum, those are called "snares" or snare wires. it may be possible kung maayos naman yung pagkakatono mo sa heads and yet sabog pa din yung tunog. BTW, ang bearing edges ay yung mismong edge ng snare mo kung saan mo nilalapat yung heads. "hoops" naman tawag sa metal rims na nilalagyan ng "tension rods" (screws). :wink:
iwas text speak din. thanks! :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: peeves24 on November 09, 2011, 07:02:40 AM
mga sir patulong naman meron akong fernando (wood) piccolo snare hindi ko cya maitono kahit ano gawin ko ang tunog nya tong tong tong.. hinatak ko na ng sobra ung wire pero loose pdin ung tunog nya tingin nyo guys palitan ko ba ung spring??
pls avoid text speak - mod
walang snare bed yan malamang kaya hindi lumalapat yung snare wires sa bottom head.
kalasin mo yung bottom head tapos gamitin mo daliri o mata para masipat kung may lubog na areas dun sa 2 sides na dadaanan ng snare wires. kung wala, kumuha ng liha at lagyan ng uka at least 3-4 inches wide yung magkabilang side na yun. less than 1/8" lang na lalim pwede na
wala akong pic ng sa wood shell e pero pareho lang naman sila nito: (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3533/3936398700_55845b1692_z.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2437/3936399320_bb0fbc4a5d_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: geremii on November 09, 2011, 08:57:20 PM
don't rush. pag-ipunan mo na lang bro. it's worth it. :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: tom_morelo2001 on November 10, 2011, 09:39:48 PM
alin po ba ung magandang snare at madaling maitono, ung metal o ung kahoy?tnx po,ang hanap ko po sanang tunog un parang kay chad smith,red hot.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: haxo55 on November 11, 2011, 02:04:58 AM
good day, anong magandang skin ipalit ko for my toms? yung sound na gusto ko sana medyo mabass, kahit anong tuning kasi gawin ko matreble ata talaga yung skin niya na ma mids, pati yung bass drum ko gusto ko din sana mas mababa pa yung tono niya, medyo ok naman yung pag katono ko sakanila, kaso sa bassdrum medyo may pag ka 'TIG' yung output niya, gusto ko sana mawala yun, ganun din sa toms, sinubukan ko na ibat ibang combinations ng higpit luwag palitan parehas, pero di ko parin makuha, stock skins parin. salamat sa magrereply sensya mukhang magulo ata pinagsasasabi ko haha,
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 11, 2011, 08:32:56 AM
good day, anong magandang skin ipalit ko for my toms? yung sound na gusto ko sana medyo mabass, kahit anong tuning kasi gawin ko matreble ata talaga yung skin niya na ma mids, pati yung bass drum ko gusto ko din sana mas mababa pa yung tono niya, medyo ok naman yung pag katono ko sakanila, kaso sa bassdrum medyo may pag ka 'TIG' yung output niya, gusto ko sana mawala yun, ganun din sa toms, sinubukan ko na ibat ibang combinations ng higpit luwag palitan parehas, pero di ko parin makuha, stock skins parin. salamat sa magrereply sensya mukhang magulo ata pinagsasasabi ko haha,
you can't go wrong with Remo Emperors or PS3's for toms (yes for toms!) and kick sa batter sides, clear ambassadors sa resonant side naman for toms. :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: tom_morelo2001 on November 11, 2011, 05:53:53 PM
go with a steel snare. coated ambassador batter, ambassador resonant. tune your batter tighter than your reso. snare wires set on medium tight. :wink:
thanks po sir Riff,balak ko din po bumili snare anu po ba ung maganda?kc un sakin po ngaun un Pearl Marc Quinones kasama po un nun nbili ko un kit,kaso maliit pala sya 12"lng,o ok na din po ba un?kun kaysa bibili pa ako?bago palang kasi ako sa drums eh.salamat po....and thanks sa PhilMusic....
fixed your post. iwas text speak din please. - mod
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 11, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
thanks po sir Riff,balak ko din po bumili snare anu po ba ung maganda?kc un sakin po ngaun un Pearl Marc Quinones kasama po un nun nbili ko un kit,kaso maliit pala sya 12"lng,o ok na din po ba un?kun kaysa bibili pa ako?bago palang kasi ako sa drums eh.salamat po....and thanks sa PhilMusic....
fixed your post. iwas text speak din please. - mod
if you're in a budget, pearl sensitone steel snare ang pinakamainam na ma-reco ko. kung gusto mo talaga dead on sound ni chad smith, you could opt to buy his sig snare. abangan mo lang kapag mag-sale sa JB or may maligaw dito sa classifieds natin. :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: muziquero on November 13, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
I just got a Morgan Rose Signature snare!.. Suggestions po sa tuning!.. And okey ba kung palitan ko ng Remo Coated Powerstroke 3?.. Thanks..
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 14, 2011, 02:21:47 AM
go with a steel snare. coated ambassador batter, ambassador resonant. tune your batter tighter than your reso. snare wires set on medium tight. :wink:
you can't go wrong with Remo Emperors or PS3's for toms (yes for toms!) and kick sa batter sides, clear ambassadors sa resonant side naman for toms. :-)
mga magkano kaya abutin ko nito for 3 toms and bass drum? wala kasi talaga kong idea sa presyuhan niyan, halos 2 years ng stock skins parin gamit ko hehe, remo emperors or ps3's (ano po pala yung PS3's? hehe) para sa batter ng tom and kick, tapos sa resonant clear ambassadors? tama po ba baka magkamali ako yari haha. salamat sir
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 17, 2011, 07:54:32 AM
mga magkano kaya abutin ko nito for 3 toms and bass drum? wala kasi talaga kong idea sa presyuhan niyan, halos 2 years ng stock skins parin gamit ko hehe, remo emperors or ps3's (ano po pala yung PS3's? hehe) para sa batter ng tom and kick, tapos sa resonant clear ambassadors? tama po ba baka magkamali ako yari haha. salamat sir
xmas sale sa JB ngayon, you could check the updated pricing either online or sa local JB stores. PS3 = Powerstroke 3 then clear ambs sa reso. :-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 17, 2011, 08:27:20 AM
sir ok naman ung snare ko pero may echo kasi eh pano po ba mawala un? ok naman malutong siya kaya lang may echo any tips sir?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: plitipiw40315 on November 17, 2011, 08:45:47 AM
sir ok naman ung snare ko pero may echo kasi eh pano po ba mawala un? ok naman malutong siya kaya lang may echo any tips sir?
Ipapalo mo yung snare mo sa iba, then pakinggan mo from a distance bro, then saka mo ijudge kung ma-eco parin ba yung tunog o swak na sa panlasa mo.. 8-)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 24, 2011, 02:38:17 PM
Ipapalo mo yung snare mo sa iba, then pakinggan mo from a distance bro, then saka mo ijudge kung ma-eco parin ba yung tunog o swak na sa panlasa mo.. 8-)
ok naman pala ung tunog nung lumayo ako, minsan po kasi nakatugtog ako sa kontiki bar sa tagaytay YAMAHA gig maker ung snare ang ganda ng tunog as in kahit ako mismo ung pumapalo eh wala talagang echo lalo na nung nasa malayo ako ako at naririnig kong may pumapalo ang ganda pa rin talaga di kagaya ng snare ko pag ako ung pumapalo may echo pero pag sa malayo ok naman pala ung tunog wala lang napapaisip lang po ako thanks anyway sir
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Post by: mokie on December 13, 2011, 07:13:47 PM
mga sir ok rin ba ang evans EQ4 para sa Batter ng Bass drum? para sa Catalina Maple, thanks! :wave:
and Mike Mangini Signature snare 10x6.2,any reviews/comments mga sir? :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: muziquero on December 16, 2011, 12:48:58 AM
Guy pahelp naman, snare nalang kase Evans sa Kit ko, gusto ko na ievans lahat.. Okei ba yung EC na may Reverse dot sa Morgan Rose Sig. Snare?.. Thanks!..
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: byako21 on December 16, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
Guy pahelp naman, snare nalang kase Evans sa Kit ko, gusto ko na ievans lahat.. Okei ba yung EC na may Reverse dot sa Morgan Rose Sig. Snare?.. Thanks!..
i have a 12x4 tama metal works snare.. bumili ako ng Evans EC reverse dot din. akma kaya ang tunog?? nde ko pa naman nilalagay kasi papa chrome plate ko pa ang snare. any thoughts??
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: muziquero on December 19, 2011, 09:53:17 PM
i have a 12x4 tama metal works snare.. bumili ako ng Evans EC reverse dot din. akma kaya ang tunog?? nde ko pa naman nilalagay kasi papa chrome plate ko pa ang snare. any thoughts??
Sir balitaan mo naman ako kung okey tunog nung EC reverse dot head pag nalagay mo na.. :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jdr1524 on December 20, 2011, 09:45:06 PM
Mga Sir ano kaya magandang tuning sa GRESTCH RENOWN MAPLE 14 x 6.5?I'm using Aquarian Hi-Energy(Batter side) and Evans hazy 300 (Reso side).Yun Phat crack or mas magandang crack niya na mapro produce...Thanks.. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: _dax_ on January 03, 2012, 10:24:22 PM
Napunit yung Pinstripe batter head ng kick drum ko, 2-ply siya pero may parang click na tunog na and the tear is getting bigger......... mali yata yung pag setup ko nung elim dou-peds, or nasobrahan sa d-peds nung new year. :eek: any suggestions for its replacement? I'm using a Tattoo Skyn reso head.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: food.vulture on January 05, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
Sir balitaan mo naman ako kung okey tunog nung EC reverse dot head pag nalagay mo na.. :)
i also have a EC reverse dot head on my 14" snare drum.. ok naman ung tunog pero for me, i think mas bagay sya for wood snares.. i tune it high and still gives a nice sound.. many pro drummers are using that head also.. greetings from cebu kapatid!! :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: glennaui on January 07, 2012, 09:06:18 AM
Mga Sir ano kaya magandang tuning sa GRESTCH RENOWN MAPLE 14 x 6.5?I'm using Aquarian Hi-Energy(Batter side) and Evans hazy 300 (Reso side).Yun Phat crack or mas magandang crack niya na mapro produce...Thanks.. :-D
Bro parehas tayo ng snare... Kung fat crack ang gusto mo palabasin, Remo Coated Ambasador... Ok ang Hazy 300 as reso pero mas maganda kung Ambassador Snare Side... medium tight on the batter, tight on the reso tapos, wag masyadong tight yung snare wires... also consider the stick, 5A plastic tip, gives you fatness but lots of ring so consider putting moongel or anything na makakapag- muffle... Pag 5A wood tip naman, dun maganda ang sound, ganda ng fatness, nice crack and nice ring...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jdr1524 on January 08, 2012, 12:23:07 AM
Bro parehas tayo ng snare... Kung fat crack ang gusto mo palabasin, Remo Coated Ambasador... Ok ang Hazy 300 as reso pero mas maganda kung Ambassador Snare Side... medium tight on the batter, tight on the reso tapos, wag masyadong tight yung snare wires... also consider the stick, 5A plastic tip, gives you fatness but lots of ring so consider putting moongel or anything na makakapag- muffle... Pag 5A wood tip naman, dun maganda ang sound, ganda ng fatness, nice crack and nice ring...
Thanks sa advice bro,pero kakapalit ko lang ng batter heads ko eh.Anyway nakuha ko na tuning na gusto ko just give my time to tune it properly.Thanks :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: pilyongpusa on January 11, 2012, 01:09:22 AM
Buy a Drum DIAL!!! hahaha! swabeng swabe tono ng snare mo diyan. medyo costy nga lang :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: blindedfox on January 11, 2012, 04:03:53 PM
Currently using an Evans EC1 Reverse Dot. And I'm satisfied. Ganda ng tunog nya kahit na sa isang cheapo snare drum siya nakasuot hehe. "Woody" ang dating. Ganda lalo nun attack sa gitna.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: puck on January 15, 2012, 03:52:36 PM
Mga sir, pano po tanggalin yung "Pong or Tong" na sound sa snare w/o drum mute? Salamat po.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: mokie on January 15, 2012, 11:42:48 PM
guys anong magandang head para sa pdp 805? kabibili ko kasi kanina, and iniisip kong palitan bukas yung head niya. thanks!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: glennaui on January 18, 2012, 02:53:04 PM
pwede pero konti lang... loosen up your batter head...
yung "tonk" sound kasi is produced if you have a tightly tuned batter head... especially for a steel snare or snare na mababaw and height...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: ZherVin12 on July 06, 2014, 09:19:47 AM
Question lang po mga ka drummers. What snare head should I get for my snare? I have a Tama Birch snare and I play punk/blues type of music a la White Stripes/Black Keys/Foo Fighters type. Thanks for your input guys.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 06, 2014, 09:27:03 PM
Question lang po mga ka drummers. What snare head should I get for my snare? I have a Tama Birch snare and I play punk/blues type of music a la White Stripes/Black Keys/Foo Fighters type. Thanks for your input guys.
Anung sound Muna ang gusto mo makuha? Kasi you gave as your influence pero it doesn't mean na you like the sound they use. Hehe,gets paps?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 08, 2014, 02:47:06 PM
Good pm sir. Anong Evans ba ang maganda para sa gospel/rnb? Naka 12x7 at 14x5.5 ako na maple shell. Parehas sila naka Remo Ambassador coated at Ambassador Hazy sa baba. Gusto ko sana mag try ng evans since evans na yung heads ng toms ko. :) ano ba masasuggest niyo na Evans heads para sakin? Salamat sir!!! :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 08, 2014, 02:53:52 PM
Good pm sir. Anong Evans ba ang maganda para sa gospel/rnb? Naka 12x7 at 14x5.5 ako na maple shell. Parehas sila naka Remo Ambassador coated at Ambassador Hazy sa baba. Gusto ko sana mag try ng evans since evans na yung heads ng toms ko. :) ano ba masasuggest niyo na Evans heads para sakin? Salamat sir!!! :)
Coated head na mejo makapal. Like G2 Coateds or yung may power center. :D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 09, 2014, 09:55:45 AM
Coated head na mejo makapal. Like G2 Coateds or yung may power center. :D
Hmmm. Ganto nalang sir. Yung 14x5.5 sana pang all around. Yung 12x7 gusto ko pang gospel talaga. Ano kayang skins ang maganda dito na Evans? Or mag stay nalang ako Remo ambassadors sa snare? Ayoko sana yung G2 coated kasi 2-ply. Stick to 1 ply parin siguro ako. Hehe!! :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 09, 2014, 11:35:07 AM
Hmmm. Ganto nalang sir. Yung 14x5.5 sana pang all around. Yung 12x7 gusto ko pang gospel talaga. Ano kayang skins ang maganda dito na Evans? Or mag stay nalang ako Remo ambassadors sa snare? Ayoko sana yung G2 coated kasi 2-ply. Stick to 1 ply parin siguro ako. Hehe!! :-D
yung 14 x 5.5, siguro try mo mag REMO Controlled Sound Reverse Dot. single ply siya, pero makapal sa gitna for less overtones and more focused attack.
Yung 12 x 7, stick with the ambassadors bro. can't go wrong with that. :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 09, 2014, 12:35:25 PM
Focused sound is nice,planning to get one for my metal snare,pero ang dami gas,hehe,ehehe. Pwede din ambassador x,ehehe,a little thicker than ambassadors.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 09, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
Hmmm. Ganto nalang sir. Yung 14x5.5 sana pang all around. Yung 12x7 gusto ko pang gospel talaga. Ano kayang skins ang maganda dito na Evans? Or mag stay nalang ako Remo ambassadors sa snare? Ayoko sana yung G2 coated kasi 2-ply. Stick to 1 ply parin siguro ako. Hehe!! :-D
alam ko ayaw mo ng double ply, but... Evans Onyx for the 14x5.5 :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 09, 2014, 04:26:52 PM
Focused sound is nice,planning to get one for my metal snare,pero ang dami gas,hehe,ehehe. Pwede din ambassador x,ehehe,a little thicker than ambassadors.
Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh. Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe
alam ko ayaw mo ng double ply, but... Evans Onyx for the 14x5.5 :-D
How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel. :-D Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 09, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Sige sir. Salamat! Might stick to remo nalang. :-D
Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh. Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe
How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel. :-D Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms. :-D
Pag mas makapal yes usually mas focused yung sound plus less overtones. but always remember na a thick head can sound dead lalo na in big venues except pag mic-ed ang snare mo. so weigh your options.
IMHO, 2ply plus reverse dot it already over kill. 1 ply coated with Reverse Dot nalang para you get the best of both worlds.
Moongels if applied to heavily can easily kill the snare's "oomph" factor. nawawalan ng dating yung tunog ng snare pag masyadong pinatay ang overtones by moongel. better to get a head with lesser overtones.
EC1 reverse dot na coated or Remo CS na reverse dot would be great options here.
2 cents lang naman :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: gss on July 09, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
Sige sir. Salamat! Might stick to remo nalang. :-D
Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh. Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe
How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel. :-D Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms. :-D
sir word of caution lang...and i agree with sir ralph, it may sound as you described (sobrang overtone) at the drummer's point of hearing, but that sound may be perfectly fine sa side ng audience...a tad more of mufling may produce a dead sound sa audience...an evans genera dry/hd dry may sound fine without moongels...on the other hand, the thicker batter heads were introduced including those with reinforced centers, if i'm not mistaken, for heavy hitters/players because they're more durable...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 09, 2014, 05:07:19 PM
sir word of caution lang...and i agree with sir ralph, it may sound as you described (sobrang overtone) at the drummer's point of hearing, but that sound may be perfectly fine sa side ng audience...a tad more of mufling may produce a dead sound sa audience...an evans genera dry/hd dry may sound fine without moongels, the thicker batter heads were introduced including those with reinforced centers, if i'm not mistaken, for heavy hitters/players
Here here. i learned this the hard way when I played live in a stage. my snare had too much overtone on the drivers seat so I muffled it with moongels. when I heard the soundclips and videos of the gig, sobrang dead nung snare ko. nwala yung crisp, nawala yung attack. so, better judge from an audience point of view
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 09, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Sige sir. Salamat! Might stick to remo nalang. :-D
Pag mas makapal ba sir na head mas focused ang tunog saka bawas overtone? Naka Die-Cast hoops ako sa 14x5.5 ko eh. Naka moongel lang ako pero pag walang moongel sobrang lakas ng overtone. Hehehe
How about EC Reverse Dot(2-ply) or EC1 Reverse Dot(1-ply) over Hazy 300? Gusto ko sana yung batter skin na medyo makakatanggal ng overtone para hindi na ako mag moongel. :-D Nagtatanong tanong palang ako pero pag hindi ako naconvince sa snare heads ng evans. Baka mag Remo nalang ako sa snares then Evans sa toms. :-D
Thicker/two ply heads usually means more focused sound and less overtones, however katulad ng sabi ni Ralph, sa audience POV mas dead sya kaysa sa naririnig mo.
I suggest getting the EC1 Reverse Dot or the Genera Dry, maybe even a Remo Ebony Ambassador as single ply options. Enough dampening to reduce overtones but less likely to kill your sound because they're still fairly open. For two ply options, never go for dampened heads: Evans G2 Coated/Remo Coated Emperors are already very good and pretty popular choices. If you want a fat sound, I wouldn't go further than Evans Onyx or Remo Ebony Emperors. I have Evans Blue Hydraulics on my snare and while it still has overtones audible on at the driver's seat, it's waaaaaaaaaay dead to the audience (molasses
If you want to have an idea of how it might sound to the audience without leaving the kit, try wearing some ear protection and play the kit. I have Mack's Ear Plugs (P750 at True Value, pretty good investment!), and it translates the sound pretty well; but normal carpenter's earmuffs will do (P150-300 lang yan). Play the snare wearing them, that's probably how the audience hears it. "Less" overtones perceived.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: gss on July 09, 2014, 05:47:03 PM
If you want to control the openness of its sound a bit, Genera Dry must do the action.. A controlled snare drum sound without applying moon gels or mufflers.. It has a built in muffler underneath the head that doesn't show visibly.. It also has tiny holes for a bit dryness.. Actually its pretty much for any genres.. I highly recommend Genera Dry.. I never tried and wasted money anymore finding my preferred sound when I have experienced this already.. :-D
sir jviado share ko lang yung advise ni sir musicianurse28 sa evans drumheads thread when i was in the same situation before (i see that you've posted there also)...i was consulting about the right head for a 14-inch maple snare with flanged hoops...i took his advise and i'm happy ever since : )...i hope you find the batter/snare head combination you're looking for...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 09, 2014, 06:06:17 PM
Thicker/two ply heads usually means more focused sound and less overtones, however katulad ng sabi ni Ralph, sa audience POV mas dead sya kaysa sa naririnig mo.
I suggest getting the EC1 Reverse Dot or the Genera Dry, maybe even a Remo Ebony Ambassador as single ply options. Enough dampening to reduce overtones but less likely to kill your sound because they're still fairly open. For two ply options, never go for dampened heads: Evans G2 Coated/Remo Coated Emperors are already very good and pretty popular choices. If you want a fat sound, I wouldn't go further than Evans Onyx or Remo Ebony Emperors. I have Evans Blue Hydraulics on my snare and while it still has overtones audible on at the driver's seat, it's waaaaaaaaaay dead to the audience (molasses
If you want to have an idea of how it might sound to the audience without leaving the kit, try wearing some ear protection and play the kit. I have Mack's Ear Plugs (P750 at True Value, pretty good investment!), and it translates the sound pretty well; but normal carpenter's earmuffs will do (P150-300 lang yan). Play the snare wearing them, that's probably how the audience hears it. "Less" overtones perceived.
Mukhang EC1 siguro or Genera Dry over Hazy 300. Well hindi pa naman ako tumutugtog ng walang mic except sa bahay. Laging miced yung snare (Top and Bottom). Ano ba pinagkaiba ng Remo Ambassador sa EC1 Reverse Dot or EC Reverse Dot? I'm happy with my 12x7(Ambassador(Batter), Ambassador Hazy(Reso)). :-D Pero yung sa 14x5.5 ko parang may kulang talaga. Hahahaha!! Meron rin akong earmuffs sir parang naka miced yung tunog niya para sakin. :)
sir jviado share ko lang yung advise ni sir musicianurse28 sa evans drumheads thread when i was in the same situation before (i see that you've posted there also)...i was consulting about the right head for a 14-inch maple snare with flanged hoops...i took his advise and i'm happy ever since : )...i hope you find the batter/snare head combination you're looking for...
Sir naka die-cast hoops ako up and down sa 14x5.5 ko eh. Hehe. Oo sir nag post rin ako. Kayo sir? Ano ba gamit niyong batter/reso sa snare niyo? :-D nagpalit kasi ako heads ng toms ko from Remo to Evans so i'm thinking of changing my Snare heads to Evans na rin. Pero kung hindi ako maconvince sa evans heads. Play safe nalang ako and stay with Remo Ambassadors on my snares. :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 09, 2014, 06:46:42 PM
Meron rin akong earmuffs sir parang naka miced yung tunog niya para sakin. :)
This is the desired effect. Pero kung overtone-y pa rin sya, yun, EC1 reverse dot or Genera na :)
Or maybe you're looking for a 5.5" or deeper steel/bronze snare with warm batter head kind of sound (say, a Supra with Coated Emperors or Black X; maybe even a Joey Jordison snare). Deep enough to be warm and focused, but the shell is bright enough to still crack and cut. :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 09, 2014, 07:50:26 PM
All I could say is love the overtones. :-D My gigging snare sounds odd in front of me,when I hear it when somebody plays it,I saw to myself Yummy! Sarap, haha My Joey has ambassador hehe,it's for sale,haha,joke But when you cranked it up it sounds like a timba na matalas Pero when I heard my friend Joey from afar with my same tuning it's sweet, So think of all the factors starting from the head selection and desired sound you want and Where will you use this snare. All I can say 2 ply skin for snare makes the snare manhid,ehehe,you will not hear ghost notes nicely Parang May ago yung tunog.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 09, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
This is the desired effect. Pero kung overtone-y pa rin sya, yun, EC1 reverse dot or Genera na :)
Or maybe you're looking for a 5.5" or deeper steel/bronze snare with warm batter head kind of sound (say, a Supra with Coated Emperors or Black X; maybe even a Joey Jordison snare). Deep enough to be warm and focused, but the shell is bright enough to still crack and cut. :wink:
All I could say is love the overtones. :-D My gigging snare sounds odd in front of me,when I hear it when somebody plays it,I saw to myself Yummy! Sarap, haha My Joey has ambassador hehe,it's for sale,haha,joke But when you cranked it up it sounds like a timba na matalas Pero when I heard my friend Joey from afar with my same tuning it's sweet, So think of all the factors starting from the head selection and desired sound you want and Where will you use this snare. All I can say 2 ply skin for snare makes the snare manhid,ehehe,you will not hear ghost notes nicely Parang May ago yung tunog.
Yung 12x7 ko sir ganun and i also like overtones. Wag lang sobra. Hahaha!! :-D Pero yung 14x5.5 may hinahanap akong tunog na hindi ko makuha. Hehehe. Anyway, salamat sir! :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: gss on July 09, 2014, 10:44:34 PM
Mukhang EC1 siguro or Genera Dry over Hazy 300. Well hindi pa naman ako tumutugtog ng walang mic except sa bahay. Laging miced yung snare (Top and Bottom). Ano ba pinagkaiba ng Remo Ambassador sa EC1 Reverse Dot or EC Reverse Dot? I'm happy with my 12x7(Ambassador(Batter), Ambassador Hazy(Reso)). :-D Pero yung sa 14x5.5 ko parang may kulang talaga. Hahahaha!! Meron rin akong earmuffs sir parang naka miced yung tunog niya para sakin. :)
Sir naka die-cast hoops ako up and down sa 14x5.5 ko eh. Hehe. Oo sir nag post rin ako. Kayo sir? Ano ba gamit niyong batter/reso sa snare niyo? :-D nagpalit kasi ako heads ng toms ko from Remo to Evans so i'm thinking of changing my Snare heads to Evans na rin. Pero kung hindi ako maconvince sa evans heads. Play safe nalang ako and stay with Remo Ambassadors on my snares. :)
1 ply ang ambassador and ec1 while 2ply ang ec, please correct me if i'm wrong...
I have a birch 13in with die cast hoops...evans genera dry batter and manufacturer's stock reso heads for almost 3 years, gigged with it a few times, no complaints (well none that i know of at least hehe) tuklap na sa gitna yung coating ng genera, but no noticeable deterioration in sound quality
I have a maple 14in with flanged hoops...evans genera st dry batter and hazy 300 stock reso for a little over a year now...haven't used it sa gig but i sure would love to...this is the one i've inquired about in my post above...
whatever makes you happy sir :)
Actually sir eitherway, remo or evans, you'll surely find the right head combination to suit your preference sa dami ng choices under both brands...i had remo coated ambassador sa snare and clear emperors in my previous kit ok din...now i'm using evans ec2s in my current kit...the old one was open while my current one is a bit tighter...
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 10, 2014, 08:20:14 AM
All I could say is love the overtones. :-D My gigging snare sounds odd in front of me,when I hear it when somebody plays it,I saw to myself Yummy! Sarap, haha My Joey has ambassador hehe,it's for sale,haha,joke But when you cranked it up it sounds like a timba na matalas Pero when I heard my friend Joey from afar with my same tuning it's sweet, So think of all the factors starting from the head selection and desired sound you want and Where will you use this snare. All I can say 2 ply skin for snare makes the snare manhid,ehehe,you will not hear ghost notes nicely Parang May ago yung tunog.
Tama si sir, medyo manhid nga sa ghost notes ang 2 ply. But if you have a heavy left hand like me, quits naman. Sick rock/blues/gospel tones when you dig into thick heads too. Wag lang talaga Hydraulics dear lord.
Sir harugrugrug bakal siguro yung mga timba nyo sa bahay. Plastik kasi samin eh, tunog floor tom. Yung kawali ng lola ko tunog ping ride :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 10, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
Tama si sir, medyo manhid nga sa ghost notes ang 2 ply. But if you have a heavy left hand like me, quits naman. Sick rock/blues/gospel tones when you dig into thick heads too. Wag lang talaga Hydraulics dear lord.
Sir harugrugrug bakal siguro yung mga timba nyo sa bahay. Plastik kasi samin eh, tunog floor tom. Yung kawali ng lola ko tunog ping ride :wink:
Hehe,practice Ka ng stick control para di Ka maging heavy handed,dati metal player ako and heavy handed Pero when I started using stick control for dynamics,humina ghost notes ko,and the same time I could play louder Haha.try mo,hehe,as for hydraulics,ehehe Tama Ka dyan,ehehe. Pero Players preference pa din yan, 2 ply never made my day in snare
Haha! Kulit mo din,hehe Tatak nung akin bestank,at meron din akong Orocan,ahaha
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 10, 2014, 02:28:28 PM
Hehe,practice Ka ng stick control para di Ka maging heavy handed,dati metal player ako and heavy handed Pero when I started using stick control for dynamics,humina ghost notes ko,and the same time I could play louder Haha.try mo,hehe,as for hydraulics,ehehe Tama Ka dyan,ehehe. Pero Players preference pa din yan, 2 ply never made my day in snare
Haha! Kulit mo din,hehe Tatak nung akin bestank,at meron din akong Orocan,ahaha
Wala na akong fine motor control sa left hand dahil sa injury kaya yung ghost notes ko medyo malakas, so bawi sa palo. Double ply heads help, pero kung single ply, ayos lang din naman pero mas 16th note groove na ang dating kesa solid na backbeat.
Anyway BTT, balitaan mo kami TS!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 10, 2014, 02:39:15 PM
Wala na akong fine motor control sa left hand dahil sa injury kaya yung ghost notes ko medyo malakas, so bawi sa palo. Double ply heads help, pero kung single ply, ayos lang din naman pero mas 16th note groove na ang dating kesa solid na backbeat.
Anyway BTT, balitaan mo kami TS!
Eto sir. Gusto ko sana mag tunog kahoy yung snare ko. Bitin na bitin ako sa pagka "Wood Sound" niya eh. From Ambassador coated(10-ply) to EC1 Reverse Dot(14-ply) mas magtunog kahoy kaya siya? Saka sa ilalim ba ok rin mag Hazy 300? Naka die-cast hoops kasi ako eh. May issue ba sa pagiging tunog kahoy yung hoops?
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 10, 2014, 02:45:53 PM
Eto sir. Gusto ko sana mag tunog kahoy yung snare ko. Bitin na bitin ako sa pagka "Wood Sound" niya eh. From Ambassador coated(10-ply) to EC1 Reverse Dot(14-ply) mas magtunog kahoy kaya siya? Saka sa ilalim ba ok rin mag Hazy 300? Naka die-cast hoops kasi ako eh. May issue ba sa pagiging tunog kahoy yung hoops?
kung gusto mo mas tunog kahoy, loose-r tuning ka tapos get a thinner reso.
yung hoops wala masyado issue dun. though my experience, pag diecast hoops ang snare, mas muffled sounding siya. tska nangangain ng sticks hahahaha
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 10, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
kung gusto mo mas tunog kahoy, loose-r tuning ka tapos get a thinner reso.
yung hoops wala masyado issue dun. though my experience, pag diecast hoops ang snare, mas muffled sounding siya. tska nangangain ng sticks hahahaha
Hahahahaha!! Tinry ko yung medium tight na tuning pero nabibitin parin ako sa tunog eh. Pag sobrang loose naman wala ng kwenta. Hahahaha!!!! Kung kumuha ako ng thicker batter mas magtutunog kahoy ba siya?
S hoopS! Ehehe throaty wood ang snare ko,remo ambassador and s hoops,getting Lots of compliment with that. :cute:
Pag nabitin ako sa tunog sir after changing heads. Palit din ako hoops. :-D pero baka Sonic Saver Hoops kunin ko since BP yung snare ko. Hehehe. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 10, 2014, 04:27:55 PM
EC1 would help na. thicker heads will make your snare sound round, but not Woody. yung woody sound can be achieved with the right overtones. warmthhhhh. mmmmmm...
anong BP ba yan? maple? :)
my personal advice, stick to the default hardware of the BP. solid na yan eh. proper tuning and head selection lang.
para mapadali, bigyan mo naman kami ng sample song or artist na hinahabol mo ang snare sound. :) mas okay kung may video or sound links. :D
naalala ko tuloy nung hinahanting ko yung tunog ng snare sa pagalis ni barbie almalbis. kala ko 14 x 5.5. maple picolo pala na ambassadors lang. lumayo pa ako HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 10, 2014, 04:30:55 PM
Magkano ba yung Fiberskyn sir? EC1 Reverse Dot ba won't be enough ba para maging tunog kahoy? :-\
Not sure on the price, pero pricey sya. Di naman sa pag hindi Fiberskyn hindi na tunog kahoy, but it's a synthetic version of calfskin, as used with old drums, bongos, congas, and pretty much every other kind of drum. Pag hindi pa nagtunog kahoy yan, ewan ko na lang :lol:
Not sure on the price, pero pricey sya. Di naman sa pag hindi Fiberskyn hindi na tunog kahoy, but it's a synthetic version of calfskin, as used with old drums, bongos, congas, and pretty much every other kind of drum. Pag hindi pa nagtunog kahoy yan, ewan ko na lang :lol:
Anung sound Muna ang gusto mo makuha? Kasi you gave as your influence pero it doesn't mean na you like the sound they use. Hehe,gets paps?
Gusto ko sir yung bright and loud to compliment my guitar player who usually uses 2 amps for his guitar. Yung tipong tumatagos sa dibdib. Hehehe. What can you suggest sir? :)
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 11, 2014, 08:28:22 AM
Gusto ko sir yung bright and loud to compliment my guitar player who usually uses 2 amps for his guitar. Yung tipong tumatagos sa dibdib. Hehehe. What can you suggest sir? :)
Two options: Single ply heads (Remo Ambassador or Evans G1), clear or coated depende sa panlasa mo, tuned medium to tight. Or, bili ka ng piccolo snare na steel, tapos salpakan mo ng 2 ply heads, tuned tight (pwede rin single ply, mas hataw yun pero baka masyado mala-timbale ang tunog para sa taste mo).
Difference between the two: mas may boom yung wood snare (I'm just assuming this is what you have, ano nga ba meron ka?) pag hinataw mo nang todo yun ang tagos sa dibdib! yung piccolo naman puro crack, less body tagos sa eardrums hahaha. Kung gusto mo ma-restore yung body sa piccolo tune down or salpakan mo ng mas makapal na heads.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: ZherVin12 on July 11, 2014, 08:36:05 AM
Two options: Single ply heads (Remo Ambassador or Evans G1), clear or coated depende sa panlasa mo, tuned medium to tight. Or, bili ka ng piccolo snare na steel, tapos salpakan mo ng 2 ply heads, tuned tight (pwede rin single ply, mas hataw yun pero baka masyado mala-timbale ang tunog para sa taste mo).
Difference between the two: mas may boom yung wood snare (I'm just assuming this is what you have, ano nga ba meron ka?) pag hinataw mo nang todo yun ang tagos sa dibdib! yung piccolo naman puro crack, less body tagos sa eardrums hahaha. Kung gusto mo ma-restore yung body sa piccolo tune down or salpakan mo ng mas makapal na heads.
Salamat sir. Btw, birch yung snare ko and I want to achieve that kind of sound.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 11, 2014, 10:13:04 AM
Don't muffle or little muffling would help.kasi pag ubod ng muffle it would be choked And will not project that much and wear earplugs while playing with mr guitar guy. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 11, 2014, 10:53:33 AM
Don't muffle or little muffling would help.kasi pag ubod ng muffle it would be choked And will not project that much and wear earplugs while playing with mr guitar guy. :mrgreen:
+1 on the earplugs! shameless plug pa rin yung Mack's Hearplugs :wink:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 11, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
get thinner heads. and kung 2 amps yung guitar guy niyo, sabihin mo sakanya bawas siya ng mids or highs para magkaron ka ng room for your snare. Birch snares are bright sounding. your frequencies are clashing with the guitar already most prob.
My advice is the same. remo ambassador ka na with less or no muffling at all. you'll need all the overtone to cut through. ahahaha
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: inigo on July 11, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
To add to projection, make sure your bottom heads are good (get Ambassadors) and tuned high and higher than your top head. Projection through bottom heads are not apparent when you're sitting on your drum throne, but the big difference is heard from the audience perspective.
Using wide snare wires will also help increase snare presence. Get one with 30-strands.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 11, 2014, 10:37:55 PM
To add to projection, make sure your bottom heads are good (get Ambassadors) and tuned high and higher than your top head. Projection through bottom heads are not apparent when you're sitting on your drum throne, but the big difference is heard from the audience perspective.
Using wide snare wires will also help increase snare presence. Get one with 30-strands.
wow ill check this method,thanks for the share! :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: 9_spiral on July 12, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
Gusto ko sir yung bright and loud to compliment my guitar player who usually uses 2 amps for his guitar. Yung tipong tumatagos sa dibdib. Hehehe. What can you suggest sir? :)
I use Aquarian Hi-Energy (tight tension) over Evans Hazy 300 and installed Puresound Blasters 20 strands on my 13x7 G-maple snare. Aquarian Hi-energy is a single ply drumhead that has a patch in the middle. Nakakatulong siya magtanggal ng konting overtones and adds durability din. My snare is now brighter, "poppier", and louder. Make sure you wear earplugs when playing.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 15, 2014, 02:06:00 PM
Sir matanong ko lang. Ano pinagkaiba ng thinner at thicker reso snare head? Evans Hazy 200(2-mil), Evans Hazy 300(3-mil), Evans Hazy 500(5-mil)? Currently using Ambassador Hazy(3-mil) since production bali mga 9 years na. HAHAHAHAHA!! :lol: :lol: Iniisip ko kung mag Hazy 500 ako or Hazy 300 parin. Gusto ko mag tunog dark and dry pero halatang kahoy parin yung tunog. :) Mag EC1 Reverse Dot(14-mil) Batter ako. Sa reso mas okay ba mag 5-mil reso ako o stick to 3-mil reso? Thanks!! :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2014, 02:17:39 PM
Sir matanong ko lang. Ano pinagkaiba ng thinner at thicker reso snare head? Evans Hazy 200(2-mil), Evans Hazy 300(3-mil), Evans Hazy 500(5-mil)? Currently using Ambassador Hazy(3-mil) since production bali mga 9 years na. HAHAHAHAHA!! :lol: :lol: Iniisip ko kung mag Hazy 500 ako or Hazy 300 parin. Gusto ko mag tunog dark and dry pero halatang kahoy parin yung tunog. :) Mag EC1 Reverse Dot(14-mil) Batter ako. Sa reso mas okay ba mag 5-mil reso ako o stick to 3-mil reso? Thanks!! :-D
I haven't had to swap out my reso heads yet, but thicker resos are more durable and probably darker, but with less snare response i think. I'm guessing thinner resos are for jazz, when you need your ghost notes to respond to light taps, and thicker resos are for heavy styles without ghost notes, so you won't bust your reso heads when laying heavy on the snare.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 15, 2014, 02:27:48 PM
I haven't had to swap out my reso heads yet, but thicker resos are more durable and probably darker, but with less snare response i think. I'm guessing thinner resos are for jazz, when you need your ghost notes to respond to light taps, and thicker resos are for heavy styles without ghost notes, so you won't bust your reso heads when laying heavy on the snare.
Ahh. Is it better to stick to 3-mil than changing to 5-mil? Gusto ko kasi marinig yung body sound eh. Since magpapalit ako ng Batter head. Gusto ko na isabay yung reso. Bigla kasi akong na OC sa brands. Snares ko nalang ang naka remo. Hahahaha! :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2014, 03:03:49 PM
Ahh. Is it better to stick to 3-mil than changing to 5-mil? Gusto ko kasi marinig yung body sound eh. Since magpapalit ako ng Batter head. Gusto ko na isabay yung reso. Bigla kasi akong na OC sa brands. Snares ko nalang ang naka remo. Hahahaha! :-D
I'd stick to 3 mil. 5 mil seems like it'll be less open and responsive.
As to the brands, wag ka ma-OC! there are people who mix up different brands for different drums; it really depends on what the product does. AFAIK especially in other drum forums, there seems to be a trend that Remo = toanz and Evans = consistency and durability. people seem to love single ply Remos and double ply Evans, for toms. For snares, people seem to like Fiberskyn, Coated Emps and Ambs, Emp/Black X from Remo, and Hydraulics, Onyx, Genera, and EC from Evans. Aquarian maririnig mo lang ata pag kick na ang usapan :wink:
Choose for the tone!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 15, 2014, 03:38:02 PM
I'd stick to 3 mil. 5 mil seems like it'll be less open and responsive.
As to the brands, wag ka ma-OC! there are people who mix up different brands for different drums; it really depends on what the product does. AFAIK especially in other drum forums, there seems to be a trend that Remo = toanz and Evans = consistency and durability. people seem to love single ply Remos and double ply Evans, for toms. For snares, people seem to like Fiberskyn, Coated Emps and Ambs, Emp/Black X from Remo, and Hydraulics, Onyx, Genera, and EC from Evans. Aquarian maririnig mo lang ata pag kick na ang usapan :wink:
Choose for the tone!
Ok sir! Noted. Hehehe. :) will buy 3-mil reso. :) Siguro bili parin ako ng 5-mil dahil sobrang curious ko. Hahahaha!! :-D
Pano ko ba makukuha yung body sound ng snare? Madalas ko marinig yung body sound sa matatangkad na snares like 6" or taller.
Sa 12x7 ko rinig na rinig yung body niya eh kahit Ambassadors na luma na. Dito kaya sa 14x5.5 kaya rin makuha? Tried all the tuning my Ambassadors from loose to tight. Wala talaga eh. :-(
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2014, 04:09:51 PM
Ok sir! Noted. Hehehe. :) will buy 3-mil reso. :) Siguro bili parin ako ng 5-mil dahil sobrang curious ko. Hahahaha!! :-D
Pano ko ba makukuha yung body sound ng snare? Madalas ko marinig yung body sound sa matatangkad na snares like 6" or taller.
Sa 12x7 ko rinig na rinig yung body niya eh kahit Ambassadors na luma na. Dito kaya sa 14x5.5 kaya rin makuha? Tried all the tuning my Ambassadors from loose to tight. Wala talaga eh. :-(
Rimshots, Better sticking, and better sticks.
kung sa ambassadors di mo pa rin marinig yung body ng snare, something else is wrong. either the snare is wrong, or the technique is wrong na.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 15, 2014, 04:50:42 PM
kung sa ambassadors di mo pa rin marinig yung body ng snare, something else is wrong. either the snare is wrong, or the technique is wrong na.
May tunog naman siyang body pero mahina. Ang problem lang is bitin na bitin ako sa pagka body niya. Hehehe. Di kaya dahil sa depth niya na 5.5" lang? :-(
Dati kasi naka 13x6 MPX Birch ako rinig na rinig yung body. Binenta ko na tapos nag 14x5.5 ako na BP Maple. Ngayon naman bitin na bitin ako sa body sound. Sa 12x7 BP Maple naman rinig na rinig din yung body. Hehe.
Gusto ko talaga makuha yung dry, dark and body sound sa 14x5.5 ko. :cry:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2014, 04:59:02 PM
How about medium tuning? Yung stock snare ko 5.5 ata depth nya, puro body at patay na overtones :lol: :| medium tuning sya kasi ang kapal ng head, and the lugs dont really go that far.
basically tama si ralph, if its not the heads or the sticks or the sticking, its the snare. maybe a 14x5.5 maple just isn't for you. trade mo na sa ibang snare.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2014, 05:18:08 PM
actually ang maple kasi is very warm sounding so baka kaya di mo siya naririnig.
kasi ako im using a Birch 14 x 5 snare sa bahay, tight tuning, ambassadors only. sobrang woody na for me. so baka yung material rin ang to blame. plus diecast hoops pa ata ang BP so mas muted sounding siya.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 15, 2014, 05:32:48 PM
How about medium tuning? Yung stock snare ko 5.5 ata depth nya, puro body at patay na overtones :lol: :| medium tuning sya kasi ang kapal ng head, and the lugs dont really go that far.
basically tama si ralph, if its not the heads or the sticks or the sticking, its the snare. maybe a 14x5.5 maple just isn't for you. trade mo na sa ibang snare.
Nag try na ko lahat ng tuning. Pati reso. :-( try ko muna mag palit heads at baka pati hoops.
Sana makuha ko yung tunog na gusto ko. Ayoko lang pakawalan kasi marami na kong napagdaanan sa snare na to. Hehehe.
actually ang maple kasi is very warm sounding so baka kaya di mo siya naririnig.
kasi ako im using a Birch 14 x 5 snare sa bahay, tight tuning, ambassadors only. sobrang woody na for me. so baka yung material rin ang to blame. plus diecast hoops pa ata ang BP so mas muted sounding siya.
Yup. Die cast nga siya. Baka mag sonic saver ako in the future kung hindi masolve problem ko sa heads. Hassle talaga pag hindi mo makuha yung gusto mong tunog. Hehehe.
Salamat ng marami sir. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2014, 05:38:01 PM
Nag try na ko lahat ng tuning. Pati reso. :-( try ko muna mag palit heads at baka pati hoops.
Sana makuha ko yung tunog na gusto ko. Ayoko lang pakawalan kasi marami na kong napagdaanan sa snare na to. Hehehe.
Anyway, salamat ng marami sir! :-D
Yup. Die cast nga siya. Baka mag sonic saver ako in the future kung hindi masolve problem ko sa heads. Hassle talaga pag hindi mo makuha yung gusto mong tunog. Hehehe.
Salamat ng marami sir. :-D
ayt man!
try mo mung humiram ng hoops na triple flanged version para marinig mo difference! :D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 15, 2014, 05:42:32 PM
try mo mung humiram ng hoops na triple flanged version para marinig mo difference! :D
Noted sir! Maraming salamat!! :-D
Naisip ko bigla na baka hoops nga kasi yung 12x7 na BP ko Cherry Maple pero naka triple flanged na 2.3mm. :-D
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 15, 2014, 08:50:42 PM
I have a maple snare that is 13x5.5 it has a body sound as well because my hoops are s hoops Try the equivalent the sonic saved hoops,it might change the outcome, :idea:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 17, 2014, 10:48:38 AM
Naisip ko bigla na baka hoops nga kasi yung 12x7 na BP ko Cherry Maple pero naka triple flanged na 2.3mm. :-D
Most probably hoops nga bro.
I remember, yung mga tama superstar na natry ko na standard size, (14x5) mejo nakukulangan ako kaya ako nag 13 x 6.5 na walnut na BP kahit diecast, woody goodness!
pero AFAIK, hoops will help! try borrowing muna before purchasing!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on July 17, 2014, 05:08:08 PM
I remember, yung mga tama superstar na natry ko na standard size, (14x5) mejo nakukulangan ako kaya ako nag 13 x 6.5 na walnut na BP kahit diecast, woody goodness!
pero AFAIK, hoops will help! try borrowing muna before purchasing!
Oyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeee. Sarap niyan sir. BP 13x6.5 Walnut? :roll: Premium Series ba siya? Deep Forest? Anong series siya ng BP? :) Sana matry ko yang snare niyo minsan. :-D
Pangarap kong snare yan. Kaso sobrang hirap makahanap at wala na ring brand new. Hahahaha!!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 17, 2014, 05:42:28 PM
I remember, yung mga tama superstar na natry ko na standard size, (14x5) mejo nakukulangan ako kaya ako nag 13 x 6.5 na walnut na BP kahit diecast, woody goodness!
pero AFAIK, hoops will help! try borrowing muna before purchasing!
ito ba yung binenta mo tapos pinagsisihan mo? :lol:
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 21, 2014, 12:28:28 PM
Oyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeee. Sarap niyan sir. BP 13x6.5 Walnut? :roll: Premium Series ba siya? Deep Forest? Anong series siya ng BP? :) Sana matry ko yang snare niyo minsan. :-D
Pangarap kong snare yan. Kaso sobrang hirap makahanap at wala na ring brand new. Hahahaha!!
yung unang labas ng BP </3 before the deep forest. sighhhh... :( bago siya idiscontinue at tawaging Chris Adler Signature. sighhhhh... tapos binenta ko para makabili ng Gitara </3
and no hype, iba yung tunog ng BP Walnut :( huhuhuhu i miss it so much.
@sonicassault
oo, eto yun :( si burnee :(
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: jviado on May 06, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
Post ulit!!!!
Hindi ko na binenta yung 14x5.5 BP Birdseye Maple ko. Pero nagpalit na ko batter. Naka Evans EC1 Reverse Dot na ako.
Tight tuning sa taas tapos sa baba medyo maluwag tapos nag 14 strands ako na snare wires.
Grabe sobrang gusto ko talaga yung tunog ngayon!!!!! Sobrang dry na rin parang cymbals ko lang. Hahahaha!!
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on May 06, 2015, 04:10:07 PM
Bought a 13x3 brass snare from sir plep. nakakabit pa yung Fiberskyn 3 head and Ambassador reso, tuned tight. Too piccolo-y for my taste. I tuned it down, tapos yun, ayos! It matched the pitch of my 14x5 but with less body and more thwack and overtones. May binigay si sir na used Evans Power Center reverse dot I think. basta may dot sa loob. I tuned it at medium tension. It was even better. I can tune the batter just a bit tighter for a slightly higher pitch without sacrificing the mids. I can't wait to slap a two ply Onyx or black Response-2 on it and see how much further I can raise the pitch without making it thin.
Of course it will never have the boom of a snare at least 5 inches deep, but I like it that way, enough mids to power through, lots of overtones, lots of ring, and high pitched enough to separate itself from the mix. I think I'd only change my snare for a power piccolo when the thump needs to be there.
I need to change the snare wires and cords on that snare tho.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 06, 2015, 04:21:43 PM
Bought a 13x3 brass snare from sir plep. nakakabit pa yung Fiberskyn 3 head and Ambassador reso, tuned tight. Too piccolo-y for my taste. I tuned it down, tapos yun, ayos! It matched the pitch of my 14x5 but with less body and more thwack and overtones. May binigay si sir na used Evans Power Center reverse dot I think. basta may dot sa loob. I tuned it at medium tension. It was even better. I can tune the batter just a bit tighter for a slightly higher pitch without sacrificing the mids. I can't wait to slap a two ply Onyx or black Response-2 on it and see how much further I can raise the pitch without making it thin.
Of course it will never have the boom of a snare at least 5 inches deep, but I like it that way, enough mids to power through, lots of overtones, lots of ring, and high pitched enough to separate itself from the mix. I think I'd only change my snare for a power piccolo when the thump needs to be there.
I need to change the snare wires and cords on that snare tho.
hirap pag big venue. :( yan problema ko ngayon. kailangan ko na ata ng JJ para rinig pag live.
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on May 06, 2015, 04:44:36 PM
hirap pag big venue. :( yan problema ko ngayon. kailangan ko na ata ng JJ para rinig pag live.
yun lang, kulang talaga sa body pag piccolo. kahit dun sa 14x5 ko dama nung dibdib ko yung difference eh. target ko rin yang JJ, pag may matino na akong trabaho :lol: pag ganun siguro stick na ako sa reverse dot batters kasi pag two ply feeling ko masyado pang funk
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 06, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
yun lang, kulang talaga sa body pag piccolo. kahit dun sa 14x5 ko dama nung dibdib ko yung difference eh. target ko rin yang JJ, pag may matino na akong trabaho :lol: pag ganun siguro stick na ako sa reverse dot batters kasi pag two ply feeling ko masyado pang funk
since pang big venues, ambassador all the way! pag open venues kasi, overtones are your friend eh hahahaha
Title: Re: Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Post by: sonicassault on May 06, 2015, 04:54:54 PM