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Re: True Acoustic Tone
« Reply #725 on: March 04, 2008, 04:26:15 PM »
Revie lang po sa A2....di po sya maganda sa PI system namin...iba parin talaga tunog ng Natural tone acoustic. Nagtataka lang ako kasi maganda sa head phone ko. pero sa Mizer namin hindi na. Matinis yung tunog.

Yun lang po...bow...hehehe

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« Reply #726 on: March 05, 2008, 01:15:31 AM »
Revie lang po sa A2....di po sya maganda sa PI system namin...iba parin talaga tunog ng Natural tone acoustic. Nagtataka lang ako kasi maganda sa head phone ko. pero sa Mizer namin hindi na. Matinis yung tunog.

Yun lang po...bow...hehehe

baka nasa timpla lang ng mixer mo bro.  konting tweak pa and you may get the tone you want.
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« Reply #727 on: March 05, 2008, 08:54:36 AM »
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baka nasa timpla lang ng mixer mo bro.  konting tweak pa and you may get the tone you want.

sa tingin ko nga rin...kasi ok naman pag sa headset ko. pipityugin lang din kasi yung speakers ng mixer namin e....konzert...hehehe...

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« Reply #728 on: March 05, 2008, 11:45:29 AM »
san ka nakakita? D ba Audiophile lang ang nagcacarry ng Ibanez? Avail na ba? Antgal ko kcing inabangan tong model na to e. Last december ako napabili,nagkataon wala cla stock nyan kaya AEL20 tuloy ang nabili ko. Ok nako sa 2nog nun,ano pa kaya kung AW40 ECE, e solid top yta yan e..good choice. San mo pla nakita to?Meron na AudioPhile?How much na sya ngayon?

Magpapabili lang ako sa friend ko bro na nasa abroad...lagi kasi walang stock dito sa AP...Ito talaga ang trip ko won't settle for anything else..hehehe..
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« Reply #729 on: March 18, 2008, 02:52:37 PM »
@maxi

how much nga ang AER sa JB ? i think its around 6k right ?

btw, discontinued na ang Aura Blender shucks !!!!
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« Reply #730 on: March 18, 2008, 03:06:08 PM »
tapatan mo lang yung acoustic guitar mo ng mic sa 12th fret tsaka sa sound hole pag recording...wag mo isaksak sa guitar amp yung guitar..mic lang talaga..yun sigurado pure acoustic guitar ang tunog nun...

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Re: True Acoustic Tone
« Reply #731 on: March 21, 2008, 07:14:22 AM »
@maxi

how much nga ang AER sa JB ? i think its around 6k right ?

btw, discontinued na ang Aura Blender shucks !!!!

Tinanong ko last week sa JB, 8400 daw.. Mahal pala nya..

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« Reply #732 on: March 21, 2008, 08:57:12 AM »
btw, discontinued na ang Aura Blender shucks !!!!

bakit discontinued?  due to negative feedback?
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« Reply #733 on: March 21, 2008, 09:05:01 AM »
Tinanong ko last week sa JB, 8400 daw.. Mahal pala nya..

dude, ano bang acoustic gamit mo ngayon?  :-)
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« Reply #734 on: March 21, 2008, 11:35:40 AM »
Yung Takamine padin Maxi.. Wala padin sha pickup til now. Hehe.. Medyo mahal ung AER eh.. Im thinkin pahanap nalang ako sa US or Canada sa mga cousin ko.. Ok ba to? http://cgi.ebay.com/Fishman-Classic-4-Acoustic-Preamp-EQ-Piezo-For-Fender_W0QQitemZ190199056663QQcmdZViewItem. For now, mic nalang muna pag may jam!
OT: May nabili pala ko na extra light na D'addario sa audiophile, 240 lang but hindi sha exp though haven't tried it pa.

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« Reply #735 on: March 22, 2008, 07:41:54 AM »
Yung Takamine padin Maxi.. Wala padin sha pickup til now. Hehe.. Medyo mahal ung AER eh.. Im thinkin pahanap nalang ako sa US or Canada sa mga cousin ko.. Ok ba to? http://cgi.ebay.com/Fishman-Classic-4-Acoustic-Preamp-EQ-Piezo-For-Fender_W0QQitemZ190199056663QQcmdZViewItem. For now, mic nalang muna pag may jam!
OT: May nabili pala ko na extra light na D'addario sa audiophile, 240 lang but hindi sha exp though haven't tried it pa.

yan yung gamit sa mga Fender acoustics sa Yupangco.  dun mo nalang cguro tignan kung ok ang tunog para sayo.

hindi ko pa na-try ang extra light ng D'addario eh.  exp kasi gamit ko and Jimi Hendrix 11s.  :-)
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« Reply #736 on: March 22, 2008, 08:12:31 AM »
yan yung gamit sa mga Fender acoustics sa Yupangco.  dun mo nalang cguro tignan kung ok ang tunog para sayo.

hindi ko pa na-try ang extra light ng D'addario eh.  exp kasi gamit ko and Jimi Hendrix 11s.  :-)
Ang mahal kasi ng exp eh. Though ok talaga sha and long lasting. Il try the daddario, soon medyo ok pa strings ko ngayon eh.. Yupangco makati? I'll try to go there one of these days.

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« Reply #737 on: March 31, 2008, 02:18:58 PM »
OT:
meron ba available locally na acoustic pickups like the dean markley promag
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« Reply #738 on: March 31, 2008, 03:33:06 PM »
OT:
meron ba available locally na acoustic pickups like the dean markley promag

this isn't OT bro.  :-)

if you have read the previous posts here, you will see that there have been many similar questions to your own.

to answer your question, the best available in local music stores is the AER.  it's available in JB music.  :-)
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Re: True Acoustic Tone
« Reply #739 on: March 31, 2008, 04:09:43 PM »
Is there a False Tone?

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« Reply #740 on: March 31, 2008, 04:32:03 PM »
Is there a False Tone?

in terms of acoustic guitars' tone, yes there is a false tone.  an example is an acoustic guitar loaded with electric guitar effects.  yan ang false acoustic tone.  :-D
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« Reply #741 on: April 01, 2008, 08:29:13 AM »
Mga sir, hindi ba makakasama sa gitara ko kung magpapalit nnman ako ng gauge ng strings. After EXP na xtra light, I shifted to Martin light gauge a couple times tapos ngayon I bought D'addario EZ900 na extra light kasi medyo mas gusto ko feel ng extra lights. Hindi kaya mag buzz or madamage ung neck?

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« Reply #742 on: April 01, 2008, 12:15:40 PM »
@maxi

how much nga ang AER sa JB ? i think its around 6k right ?

btw, discontinued na ang Aura Blender shucks !!!!

The AER AK-15+ Pickup Preamp set (piezo crystal Under Saddle Transducer [UST] & condenser microphone) is sold by their local authorized dealer - JB Music. The AK-15+ outputs to a 1/4" TS mic jack via an internal preamp/output jack powered by a 9v batt.

Blending of the UST & condenser mic is achieved by 2 pcb-mounted trim pots which is glued to the underside edge of your sound hole and for easy reach by your finger. Each of pots control both main volume and the condenser mic's output. Being fingertip-compact, it eliminates having to purchase a separate external preamp blender to achieve mixing of two sound sources (UST & mic) from your guitar.

Like most piezos, you will have the electronic quarky sound characteristic of piezos. AER uses the condenser to capture and to add the wooden boxy sound of the guitar's sound chamber.

Whether it is the best locally available is for you to judge. Remember that a lot of the hype is carried by the name - AER.

I've used the AK-15+ on both the AER's Compact 60 & Domino. Producing a very strong output on just the lower end range of the volume pot, you will want to adjust the internal preamp's trim to lower the preamp output... otherwise put the main volume pot on a minimum. Tweaking is necessary.

The AER AK-15+ is made by Korea's SOHO ACOUSTICS LTD (Seoul) which produces pickups for various applications ($2.00+ up to $15~17 inclusive of Active EQ). Soho will not sell AK-15s outside of AER Germany's distribution network...

Another excellent Korean pickup maker is ARTEC, which also OEMs for known brands. You may want to look for this 'low-profile' and low cost brand which could be available at the Bombay guitar stores in the Sta. Mesa area.  MURA ang ARTEC kung wala pang US branding!!

If you are eyeing US/European brands consider the following-

1) K & K Western for Acoustic Steel (one of the most saleable in the USA)
2) IP series of Highlander
3) B-Band from Finland
3) Pickup the World (PUTW)
4) LR Baggs (RADIUS SERIES)

Choice of pickup will of course depend on your playing style, intensity, environment of playing - solo, concert, with a band (rock/acoustic/etc.)
« Last Edit: April 02, 2008, 10:19:28 AM by GGBR »

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« Reply #743 on: April 01, 2008, 01:39:36 PM »
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1) K & K Western for Acoustic Steel (one of the most saleable in the USA)
2) IP series of Highlander
3) B-Band from Finland
3) Pickup of the World (PUTW)
4) LR Baggs (RADIUS SERIES)

hey thanks for the input. my choice is Fishman rare earth but im contemplating on whether to order or just buy AER. same price din.

deltaslim told me about K&K , ganda daw. woody very natural. 
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« Reply #744 on: April 01, 2008, 05:41:28 PM »
sir GGBR,

i'm going to Hongkong on the 3rd week of May.  i'm planning to get a preamp/di box, cables and other accessories.  what brands are available there?  tom lee hongkong's website doesn't seem to be updated. 

any inputs?  thanks!  :-)
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« Reply #745 on: April 01, 2008, 07:02:21 PM »
hey thanks for the input. my choice is Fishman rare earth but im contemplating on whether to order or just buy AER. same price din.

deltaslim told me about K&K , ganda daw. woody very natural. 

THE RARE EARTH HAS A VERY GOOD RATING AND IS NON-INTRUSIVE...IT'S A CLASSIC BUT NOT INVISIBLE THOUGH.

FOR K&K, GET THE MINI WESTERN IF YOU ARE INSTALLING IN AN ACOUSTIC STEEL.

B-BAND IS ALSO EXCELLENT BUT WILL COST YOU $200+ AND IS A DUAL PICKUP AS WELL. DOES NOT USE PIEZO BUT A PROPIETARY BUBBLE FILM FOR THE UST W/ AN ACOUSTIC SOUNDBOARD TRANSDUCER. YOU WILL NEED A BLENDER PREAMP.

MAXI, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON TOM LEE. I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE SINCE THE DARK AGES. NOTE THAT US-MADE ITEMS ARE MORE COSTLY IN HK VIS A VIS EUROPEAN ITEMS. CHECK THE WEB... FOR THE ABOVE BRANDS TO REFERENCE HK PRICES.

BY THE WAY, WE HAVE TIM HUGHES (COMPOSER OF "HERE I AM TO WORSHIP...HERE I AM TO BOW.....) FROM THE U.K. TO OPEN THE TENT AT ORTIGAS THIS FRIDAY....
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« Reply #746 on: April 01, 2008, 07:08:31 PM »
sir GGBR,

i'm going to Hongkong on the 3rd week of May.  i'm planning to get a preamp/di box, cables and other accessories.  what brands are available there?  tom lee hongkong's website doesn't seem to be updated. 

any inputs?  thanks!  :-)

YOU ARE WELCOME TO TRY MY PRESONUS PREAMP. VERY SIMPLE SANS THE BELLS AND WHISTLE BUT DELIVERS, PRIOR TO BUYING ANY OF THE US-HYPED BRANDS.

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« Reply #747 on: April 01, 2008, 09:04:12 PM »

MAXI, I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON TOM LEE. I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE SINCE THE DARK AGES. NOTE THAT US-MADE ITEMS ARE MORE COSTLY IN HK VIS A VIS EUROPEAN ITEMS. CHECK THE WEB... FOR THE ABOVE BRANDS TO REFERENCE HK PRICES.

BY THE WAY, WE HAVE TIM HUGHES (COMPOSER OF "HERE I AM TO WORSHIP...HERE I AM TO BOW.....) FROM THE U.K. TO OPEN THE TENT AT ORTIGAS THIS FRIDAY....
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thanks sir GGBR!  i'll search the web for the brands you mentioned.

i'm not sure if i can make it on Friday.  i'm going to batangas and might be back in makati at around 9pm.  thanks for the invitation.  :-)
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Re: True Acoustic Tone
« Reply #748 on: April 16, 2008, 09:41:44 PM »
One man's junk is another man's treasure...

Have been looking for a nice, affordable "beater" guitar for some time, one that I can bring along just about anywhere and not be worried a great deal about others playing it or being marred by scratches and light dents.

A few weeks ago, I chanced upon this ugly duckling at a garage sale. The moment I saw it I knew I was going to buy it - dusty sound cavity, rusty strings and all. Heck, I didn't even bother to play it. Just gave it a once-over and when I was certain there were no structural damage, I brought home an MIJ '73 Tokai Hummingbird Custom W-300...









Scarred as it is, it sounds marvelous - the best sounding 70s MIJ I've played and heard. Definitely solid top (spruce) and from the way it projects, vibrates and resonates, solid back and sides as well (rosewood). Some Tokai Registry forumites speculate that this model's back and sides may even be made of...Brazilian Jacaranda. But even if it isn't, I still consider this a great catch. Got it very cheap too - Elixirs being sold in the local market cost a bit more :)

Neck angle is ok and the fret wires are as good as they can be considering the guitar's age. Strung it with a Rotosound PB Light (11-52) and it really booms! This is a real loud guitar. I expected the action to be high but to my surprise, it's just a millimeter or two higher than my preferred setup.

Can't wait to have this properly tweaked by my suking luthier and fitted with my favorite brand of strings.

Definitely ugly, yet definitely beautiful :)

Now, I still have to find a "beater" guitar...
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« Reply #749 on: April 16, 2008, 10:35:46 PM »
mga sir ano po ba type ng lr baggs na pwede sa artcore hollowbody.

yung tipong piezo pick up na ginanagamit ng contrabass players na di na kaylangan ng on board eq sa mismong guitar?

thanks po in advance :-)