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Re: True Acoustic Tone
« Reply #525 on: October 14, 2007, 01:03:43 AM »
any opinions on breedlove c25 myrtlewood body... i have no experience w/ this kind 0f tone wood :-)

sure looks gorgeous though :-D

looks good doc...i know it will be a great addition to your collection.  :-D

maybe sir GGBR knows about the myrtlewood body.  konti lng naman ang forumers na mas mraming experience sa inyong dalawa eh.  :-D
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« Reply #526 on: October 23, 2007, 12:51:32 PM »
hey sino nagbebenta ng d'addario strings for ovation?

mura daw dito sabi ng kaibigan ko e,haha

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« Reply #527 on: October 24, 2007, 09:13:55 PM »
looks good doc...i know it will be a great addition to your collection.  :-D

maybe sir GGBR knows about the myrtlewood body.  konti lng naman ang forumers na mas mraming experience sa inyong dalawa eh.  :-D

I didnt get the breedlove c25 myrtlewood... gand ng hitsura, super payat ang tunog... sound is very close to maple, even the falme and quilt patterns...

got this instead


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« Reply #528 on: October 24, 2007, 09:19:53 PM »
hey sino nagbebenta ng d'addario strings for ovation?

mura daw dito sabi ng kaibigan ko e,haha

txt me at 09175260077... i have some spare d' add strings

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« Reply #529 on: October 26, 2007, 10:31:29 PM »
I didnt get the breedlove c25 myrtlewood... gand ng hitsura, super payat ang tunog... sound is very close to maple, even the falme and quilt patterns...

got this instead



nice doc!  what's the brand?  and natuloy ka ba sa hongkong?   :-D
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« Reply #530 on: October 26, 2007, 10:46:59 PM »
hey sino nagbebenta ng d'addario strings for ovation?

mura daw dito sabi ng kaibigan ko e,haha

good choice bro.  :-D
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« Reply #531 on: October 26, 2007, 11:08:34 PM »
nice doc!  what's the brand?  and natuloy ka ba sa hongkong?   :-D

natuloy ako... larrivee d50, d18v specs w/ better appointments... martin like tone, plus few hundred bucks cheaper :-)

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« Reply #532 on: October 26, 2007, 11:14:13 PM »
some more pix of the d50....





herringbone trim, maple binding, abalone rosette, open back tuners.... eto yun traditional series nila

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« Reply #533 on: October 26, 2007, 11:17:06 PM »
dami ko natest sa hongkong.... kahilo :-D

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« Reply #534 on: October 26, 2007, 11:30:05 PM »
dami ko natest sa hongkong.... kahilo :-D

sa tom lee ba doc?  swerte mo naman!  hehehe!  ano ung mga natest mo doc?  tska accommodating ba ung mga tao dun?  :-)

btw, my savings is building up.  i think i can afford a new guitar before christmas.  :-D
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« Reply #535 on: October 27, 2007, 01:13:14 AM »
sa tom lee ba doc?  swerte mo naman!  hehehe!  ano ung mga natest mo doc?  tska accommodating ba ung mga tao dun?  :-)

btw, my savings is building up.  i think i can afford a new guitar before christmas.  :-D

kung saan saan including tomlee... kakilala ko na mga tindero dun even before... sometimes may mga used silang pinapasa...
favorite guitar that ive tested... martin 00028vs, ganda ng tone, i was planning to get it, medyo mahal lang... kasama ko wife ko kaya di ko nabili :-D
i was also interested w/ the larrivee L09 but when compared w/ the D09, kinain yun L09... that particular D09 was the loudest among those that i tested, natempt akong bilhin, but i have a martin d41 na w/c is loud, boomy and woody at the same time....high end morgans costing 4k bucks were disappointing... the gibsons including custom shop brazillian models were just ok... same w/ the taylors... the lowdens were nice, but i have one n rin... kaya yun larrivee traditional d50 nalang, woody tone, mas clear sa rosewood counterpart... but if money is not an issue, id go for the high end martins all the way :-)

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« Reply #536 on: October 27, 2007, 01:16:25 AM »
let me know pag buo na budget no... source tayo ng magandang acoustic :-)

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« Reply #537 on: October 27, 2007, 01:21:58 AM »
I've had a friend (Ike Heredia, brother of Louie Heredia) who has been obssessed by this one topic of getting the "acoustic" out of the guitar when it comes to amplification.

Anyway, he was financially capable so he had Fishman gear for his Taylor. It was an internal mic and saddle and he had an external gear controlling those 2 signals. His guitar was a Steven Curtis Chapman Brazilian Rosewood back and side jumbo guitar. I don't have pictures but I've played it and it's really nice (should be because he had custom made).

Anyway, what I did was an external solution using 2 condenser microphones (Behringer C2's) on this guitar. It's a Cort 1200 - lovely inlay.







Here's a youtube link on how it sounded:

Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY5kAI-CIa4

I did some compression and EQ'ing after recording of course. It's not perfect, but it does the job. I hope you guys like it.

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« Reply #538 on: October 27, 2007, 01:34:28 AM »
trade ko acoustics ko for skill and talent... nice playing :-)

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« Reply #539 on: October 27, 2007, 01:54:26 AM »
Thanks man. As I would candidly say it, "I'd like to do your acoustic". haha! I've been studying and making my own (not compositions but own covers) of acoustic guitar songs. I hope to make more videos soon.

I hope this would fair good for the "acoustic" sound you guys are discussing here.

Glad you enjoyed it.

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« Reply #540 on: October 27, 2007, 01:55:50 AM »
yo neil! si peewee 'to, friend ni tim, bandmate nila magoo, from CCF. welcome to philmusic! hehe. ganda ng cort mo!

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« Reply #541 on: October 27, 2007, 02:14:05 AM »
Haha! of all places, dito pa tayo nagkita. hehehe. I was with them last sunday. Played electric then though with my trustee zoom 505.

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« Reply #542 on: October 27, 2007, 08:32:44 AM »

Anyway, what I did was an external solution using 2 condenser microphones (Behringer C2's) on this guitar. It's a Cort 1200 - lovely inlay.

Here's a youtube link on how it sounded:

Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY5kAI-CIa4

I did some compression and EQ'ing after recording of course. It's not perfect, but it does the job. I hope you guys like it.


great rendition bro!   :-)

and great-sounding guitar too.  :-)
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« Reply #543 on: October 27, 2007, 08:35:06 AM »
let me know pag buo na budget no... source tayo ng magandang acoustic :-)

thanks doc!  :-)  sana mabuo tlga ung budget before christmas..para yun na ung gift ko sa sarili ko!  hehehe!   :-D

i think kung pupunta ako ng hongkong, iikutan ko din lahat ng mgagandang acoustics dun!  to broaden my sound horizons..  :-D
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Re: True Acoustic Tone
« Reply #544 on: October 27, 2007, 09:40:50 AM »
I didnt get the breedlove c25 myrtlewood... gand ng hitsura, super payat ang tunog... sound is very close to maple, even the falme and quilt patterns...

got this instead



Hi!

You definitely know how to buy!!!

You would have been disappointed with Breedlove based on my hearing your guitar(s)/preferences. Matigas ang Myrtle. You may want to check Claro Walnut even, it should be a good match (punch but with a woody feel) for Mahogany and I believe Maple.

The Breedloves in the 'inventory' here did not elicit any reaction from me. The action was not at all comfy as I had agreed with Edwin - one unit particularly was a cheap 'tryout' from China (or was it Korea) only $900++. I believe that the very reasonable prices of Larrivee are putting the Canadian brand into the American hands now.

The moving into China factories of many brands are waking up the US market because China can now sonically AND visually compete on a world-class basis. Check out "Pearl River" brands of musical instrument. They have employed    the best European technicians to train their factory workers.

I just arrived and found out that even Cort (Korea) had move their operations to China. Their former factory was just in the same city location where I stayed.

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« Reply #545 on: October 27, 2007, 09:49:23 AM »
By the way--

It may skip your attention BUT do check out composites. Unbelievable sound!!!

An Emerald is in the 'inventory'. You may want to try CA (Composite Acoustics).

With the prices and sound of composites, especially that construction is one piece, both body and neck. AND absolutely NO NECK movement. A gigging musician will find most of the features that he would be looking for in a composite.

YOu can leave it in the heat and won't budge. You can drop it and won;t get hurt. Vary your string guages without having to adjust any action. Rain or shine, neck remains unaffected. Has a big and very close to wood sound. Definitely better sounding than the "turtlebacks"!! \and light!!! without affecting the volume.

Computer aided designs definitely help.

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« Reply #546 on: October 27, 2007, 09:59:00 AM »
By the way--

It may skip your attention BUT do check out composites. Unbelievable sound!!!

An Emerald is in the 'inventory'. You may want to try CA (Composite Acoustics).

With the prices and sound of composites, especially that construction is one piece, both body and neck. AND absolutely NO NECK movement. A gigging musician will find most of the features that he would be looking for in a composite.

YOu can leave it in the heat and won't budge. You can drop it and won;t get hurt. Vary your string guages without having to adjust any action. Rain or shine, neck remains unaffected. Has a big and very close to wood sound. Definitely better sounding than the "turtlebacks"!! \and light!!! without affecting the volume.

Computer aided designs definitely help.

got this link from google.  :-D

http://compositeacoustics.com/advantage.html

looks promising sir GGBR.  but are they already available in Asia?
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« Reply #547 on: October 27, 2007, 05:33:29 PM »
just visited yupangco a while ago..i tried out the LINE 6 VARIAX ACOUSTIC 700 and i was impressed.  :-)

the acoustic models were very natural-sounding and the guitar has many features.  really fun to play.  :-D

kaya lng it's priced at 75K!!!!   :cry:

another guitar that caught my eye was the new Yamaha APX900.  solid spruce top, flamed maple back and sides.  and it has the new technology that Yamaha unveiled.  it has a separate pickup for bass and treble i think.   :-D it's priced at around 32K.

what do you think?  :-D
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« Reply #548 on: October 27, 2007, 10:48:46 PM »
another guitar that caught my eye was the new Yamaha APX900.  solid spruce top, flamed maple back and sides.  and it has the new technology that Yamaha unveiled.  it has a separate pickup for bass and treble i think.   :-D it's priced at around 32K.

what do you think?  :-D

Hi! I was invited to the early afternoon private launch at Yupangco with the Japanese guitar player of Japan's Chocolate(?) group. He introed that new APX900 with his own sequenced pieces along with Yamaha's new lead guitar and their Les Paul styled unit. The sound of this APX is quite impressive even in an unplugged mode, airy, loud with a lot of overtones BUT NOTE: 1) already made in China AND 2) sides and back are ply (did you bother to check this???)

The APX brochure hardly (if at all) discussed any construction or materials-used features but focused on their new 3-point piezo pick-up system with emphasis on the triple round under-the-bridge pick ups (low/mid/hi). Main point of their round piezo pickups are the several layers of 'buffering' that supposedly minimizes/removes the piezo quarky-electronic character.

btw, in the Variax which we've had for already more than 3 years is hardly used because of the not-so-warm reception by the pro guitar players who've tried it along with its matching Line 6 modeling amp. The unit has a small rotary knob which allows you to choose in an instant from many modelling amps programs available FROM the spider amp. Connect to the modelling amp is via a CATV-like stiff digital cable. But does not work its modelling features with other amps!! impressive instantaneous features but.....sound.. :? This guitar lends its design more to facilty/flexibility.

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« Reply #549 on: October 27, 2007, 11:43:25 PM »
Hi! I was invited to the early afternoon private launch at Yupangco with the Japanese guitar player of Japan's Chocolate(?) group. He introed that new APX900 with his own sequenced pieces along with Yamaha's new lead guitar and their Les Paul styled unit. The sound of this APX is quite impressive even in an unplugged mode, airy, loud with a lot of overtones BUT NOTE: 1) already made in China AND 2) sides and back are ply (did you bother to check this???)

The APX brochure hardly (if at all) discussed any construction or materials-used features but focused on their new 3-point piezo pick-up system with emphasis on the triple round under-the-bridge pick ups (low/mid/hi). Main point of their round piezo pickups are the several layers of 'buffering' that supposedly minimizes/removes the piezo quarky-electronic character.

btw, in the Variax which we've had for already more than 3 years is hardly used because of the not-so-warm reception by the pro guitar players who've tried it along with its matching Line 6 modeling amp. The unit has a small rotary knob which allows you to choose in an instant from many modelling amps programs available FROM the spider amp. Connect to the modelling amp is via a CATV-like stiff digital cable. But does not work its modelling features with other amps!! impressive instantaneous features but.....sound.. :? This guitar lends its design more to facilty/flexibility.

i checked its composition sir GGBR.  i saw the composition of the APX900 in a piece of laminated paper tied to one of the tuning keys of the guitar.  it clearly said that the top is solid spruce and back and sides are flamed maple.  however, as i'm unexperienced with guitar wood, i really can't be sure.  i just relied on that piece of paper..  :?  i tried this guitar unplugged and i was surprised by the volume of its sound given its thin body.  however, i was a little doubtful because this had new strings on it.   :-D

as for the variax, it was plugged into a fender acoustic amp.  i agree that this guitar provides flexibility because of its rotary knob...but i agree that it somewhat lacked warmth.  maybe the reason why i was impressed was more on the flexibility of the guitar rather than its overall sound quality...

so...is the APX900 a good buy sir GGBR?  i haven't talked with Doc Farseer yet about this piece.  :-)
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