Boss GT10 users thread

[edz536]

Greetings to all GT-10 users.

Newbie GT-10 user here (1 month). 
This thread is a precious find as I took the time to read all the posts.
Marami akong natutunan at marami pa dapat malaman.
Salamat sa mga inputs ng mga gurus especially Sir Roger for starting the thread.

The Pinoy Rocks talaga! 

[raikidoodles]

sir yung pre amp channels ng gt-10 is my solo sw, tapos you can assign the on/off function nun sa control1/C1 or control2/C2 pedals nya.  The solo SW can concentrate more on the mid frequency of your tone.   It will give you more whole shaped tone for your soloing.   thats the beauty of your gt-10,  yung iba kasi guitarist naka - rely sa expression pedal by adding volume kapag solo part na.  In gt10 you can assign so many functions sa C1 or C2 pedals nya, sobrang galing!!!  kulang na lang sa control function is makapag send ng SMS!

elo sa lahat.
nagstart kasi ako sa single effects at nasubukan ko din mag multi effects, pero may problema kasi ako pag dating sa solo,ung distortion ng multy effects humihina pag mahina din ang pag'scratch' or 'strum' sa string pero sa stomp box tulad ng boss hyper metal hindi nagbabago or humihina ung distortion,interested ako sa boss gt10 kasi gusto kong malaman kung same parin ba ung gain ng distortion sa malakas o mahinang pag strum ng string? gusto ko sana bumili nyan pero kung mahina ung distortion pag mahina ang strum sa string edi stick nalang ako sa stomp box. sana may magreply para malaman ko kung anong gagawin ko mga boss gt10 users.thansk

[charlesdavidlim]

sir yung pre amp channels ng gt-10 is my solo sw, tapos you can assign the on/off function nun sa control1/C1 or control2/C2 pedals nya.  The solo SW can concentrate more on the mid frequency of your tone.   It will give you more whole shaped tone for your soloing.   thats the beauty of your gt-10,  yung iba kasi guitarist naka - rely sa expression pedal by adding volume kapag solo part na.  In gt10 you can assign so many functions sa C1 or C2 pedals nya, sobrang galing!!!  kulang na lang sa control function is makapag send ng SMS!

+1

[rogeryu]

Greetings to all GT-10 users.

Newbie GT-10 user here (1 month). 
This thread is a precious find as I took the time to read all the posts.
Marami akong natutunan at marami pa dapat malaman.
Salamat sa mga inputs ng mga gurus especially Sir Roger for starting the thread.

The Pinoy Rocks talaga! 

Welcome aboard Sir edz536   
Great and Happy to have new comrade in GT10 

[edz536]

Welcome aboard Sir edz536   
Great and Happy to have new comrade in GT10 

Thank you Sir Roger.  Happy to be on board the GT-10 thread.
OT lang:
Saw your previous post RE: Student Canteen's Battle of the Bands (classic).
My kumpare represented Baguio in that Rock Contest (not sure if the same year) under the band: AXEROIDS and did a cover of White Lion's - Hungry.  He also sported a black Greco guitar.
 

[charlesdavidlim]

IMHO, masmaganda para sakin yung tunog ng GT-10 kaysa sa ibang stompboxes.

[Gerrit]

Greetings to all GT-10 users.

Newbie GT-10 user here (1 month). 
This thread is a precious find as I took the time to read all the posts.
Marami akong natutunan at marami pa dapat malaman.
Salamat sa mga inputs

Welcome edz536!  Sana hindi ka magsawang mag tweak.  Ako hindi.  I love my GT-10.  It's my pearl of great price.

[edz536]

Welcome edz536!  Sana hindi ka magsawang mag tweak.  Ako hindi.  I love my GT-10.  It's my pearl of great price.

Thanks Gerrit.
For keeps na itong GT-10 sa akin.
Bedroom guitarist na lang kasi.  hehehe....
Keep on rockin'!

[raikidoodles]

IMHO, masmaganda para sakin yung tunog ng GT-10 kaysa sa ibang stompboxes.

amen!

[raikidoodles]

Calling all GT-10 users, pasyalan natin si sir roger yu sa house nila, parang mini eyeball na rin natin.  Let us witness the beauty of the DEC.   Syempre parang demo/exposition ni sir roger ang even na ito kaya sagot nya ang pulutan tayo sa mamam, hehehe.   Please reply sa mga gusto mgconfirm, anytime basta weekend mga friends.   Its time din to share ang mga skills nyo sa GT-10.   

[heyman]

question lang mga parekoy, may mga amps ba talaga na namimili ng multi effects lalo na pag GT-10 gamit mo? thrice na ako nakakaexperience sa Gigs namin at ibang rehearsal studio na medyo sabog or tlagang madidismaya ka bigla sa tunog pag di maganda ang amp nila pero kapag gamit mo naman yung personal owned amp sa bahay OK naman siya. I have GT-10 at yung individual stomp boxes ng boss rin. Wla naman problem pag yung stomp boxes gamit ko sa iba ibang amps, sa GT-10 lang nakapagtataka. Anyone experienced it na? May kelangan ba i-adjust sa GT-10 maliban sa "output select" control para bumagay sa type ng amp na ginagamit mo?

[avatar]

@raikidoodles: gusto ko sana sumabay kaso nasa davao ako hehehe i-enjoy nyo na lang ang gathering.
I would also like to urge the rest of the gt10 users to take the time to discover how the DEC can help improve your sound.

btw, may nakita akong banda last saturday sa local mall dito, and since nasa 2nd floor ako kitang-kita ko ang gt10 nya sarap lapitan at i-introduce ang DEC sa kanya

[rogeryu]

@raikidoodles: gusto ko sana sumabay kaso nasa davao ako hehehe i-enjoy nyo na lang ang gathering.
I would also like to urge the rest of the gt10 users to take the time to discover how the DEC can help improve your sound.

btw, may nakita akong banda last saturday sa local mall dito, and since nasa 2nd floor ako kitang-kita ko ang gt10 nya sarap lapitan at i-introduce ang DEC sa kanya

 

[rogeryu]

question lang mga parekoy, may mga amps ba talaga na namimili ng multi effects lalo na pag GT-10 gamit mo? thrice na ako nakakaexperience sa Gigs namin at ibang rehearsal studio na medyo sabog or tlagang madidismaya ka bigla sa tunog pag di maganda ang amp nila pero kapag gamit mo naman yung personal owned amp sa bahay OK naman siya. I have GT-10 at yung individual stomp boxes ng boss rin. Wla naman problem pag yung stomp boxes gamit ko sa iba ibang amps, sa GT-10 lang nakapagtataka. Anyone experienced it na? May kelangan ba i-adjust sa GT-10 maliban sa "output select" control para bumagay sa type ng amp na ginagamit mo?

If you are using the AMP loop return in my experience most of your patch would sounded relatively the same. I tried the same patch using inksligerx Crate powerblock(power amp in), Marshall MG100 dfx return loop, Fender DSP Aux, Fender Twin reverb (tube power amp in loop return) JC120 in loop return. All has no differences just slightly distinct that you can easily adjust using GLOBAL EQ. All that I mentioned were hi wattage amp 65w to 120w but if you use it in a lower wattage thats a different story and co'z your patch maybe set in a smaller speaker/cab and this may not give you the same response in a high/bigger wattage and speaker. I not saying this is your case because you never mentioned what routing and various amp specs that you had test or used it.
There's also one factor contributing maybe on your issue that is if you are using the AMP (front)input this also varies due to various preamp clean setting and the sound would be compressed as you were stacking two preamp (both GT preamp and Guitar preamp) at the same time. Distortion pedals are preamp too and I think you this, it has its own volume/tone/gain/drive isn't it. Here's a good analogy use only two different distortion series (true bypass might be better) in your chain, one is clean and the other one is dirt setting, i'm sure you'll get a thin sounding compress distortion sound, then switch off the clean now then you'll hear a fat distortion sound your looking for. Hope I did help and wait for somebody to share also their experience with your same issue maybe they can give you a better answer and their case solution.      

[rogeryu]

Sorry to announce this, comrade 24frets and edz536 has availed two of my remaining DEC units. You can imagine 24frets from Batangas City visited me last Holyweek to check out the DEC and convincingly after testing it with no further ado brought it home with him. Just 3hrs ago I sent the last unit reserved by edz536 thru LBC. Presently I have no more stock on hand only my personal unit and to be honest to all I'm not gaining profit for selling it (its just 5 pcs of 500 pesos)
One part specially the true bypass switch cost P395 already plus delivery fee of P150 by epektos exclude the cost for ohter more components. I only just charge about P700 for my tedious labor and my suppose free time (Sunday) to have family getting together. Now that some of you knew I'm fathering n mothering both to my son plus doing household chores (i'm still looking for my maid) plus a working man at the same time.
In this regard, I will slightly marked up my labor charge to P1000 so it would push to motivate on me to do more unit by demand. DEC now is P2850 plus P150 for LBC fees. Again my apology I must say but its truly fair enough I would say.

     

[charlesdavidlim]

Sorry to announce this, comrade 24frets and edz536 has availed two of my remaining DEC units. You can imagine 24frets from Batangas City visited me last Holyweek to check out the DEC and convincingly after testing it with no further ado brought it home with him. Just 3hrs ago I sent the last unit reserved by edz536 thru LBC. Presently I have no more stock on hand only my personal unit and to be honest to all I'm not gaining profit for selling it (its just 5 pcs of 500 pesos)
One part specially the true bypass switch cost P395 already plus delivery fee of P150 by epektos exclude the cost for ohter more components. I only just charge about P700 for my tedious labor and my suppose free time (Sunday) to have family getting together. Now that some of you knew I'm fathering n mothering both to my son plus doing household chores (i'm still looking for my maid) plus a working man at the same time.
In this regard, I will slightly marked up my labor charge to P1000 so it would push to motivate on me to do more unit by demand. DEC now is P2850 plus P150 for LBC fees. Again my apology I must say but its truly fair enough I would say.

     

swerte ng mga unang nakabili. 

[raikidoodles]

question lang mga parekoy, may mga amps ba talaga na namimili ng multi effects lalo na pag GT-10 gamit mo? thrice na ako nakakaexperience sa Gigs namin at ibang rehearsal studio na medyo sabog or tlagang madidismaya ka bigla sa tunog pag di maganda ang amp nila pero kapag gamit mo naman yung personal owned amp sa bahay OK naman siya. I have GT-10 at yung individual stomp boxes ng boss rin. Wla naman problem pag yung stomp boxes gamit ko sa iba ibang amps, sa GT-10 lang nakapagtataka. Anyone experienced it na? May kelangan ba i-adjust sa GT-10 maliban sa "output select" control para bumagay sa type ng amp na ginagamit mo?

iba iba ang characteristics ng amp sir, parang babae 'yan iba-iba ang ugali.  the best way is to bypass the tonal character ng amp mo, it means parang you will use it na parang gt-10 direct to a speaker system lang, you can do this by trying to connect your gt-10 to the send/return or sa cd inputs (just in case meron) ng amp na sinasaksakan mo.  the best way talaga is to connect our gt-10 sa mixer or line etc kasi you can use the cab simulation and all of its benefits.

Another option is to get first the flat sound of your amp, it means the bass, middle, treble ng eq nya are all in
12 o-clock position  OR the middle is all the way up and the bass and treble are all the way down.  Next thing to remember is to turn off the cab simulation ng gt-10 so it will not affect the cab type that your amp have.   Why it is easier to use stomp boxes direct to an amp? basically the stomp box drives your amp, unlike the pre-amp of any multi fx, they are amp simulation, imagine an amp driving another amp it is a little complicated kasi ang daming factors like the amp types, speaker type,cab models,mic types and mic positioning.   Roger Yu creates different sets of patches for his fender amp and marshalls amp.   You may try to do the same.

I have checked din sa other article that if you are connecting directly to an amp it is better to use the stomp boxes of your gt-10 for over driven sound and dont use the pre amps of your gt-10.     Do this by getting first the cleanest sound that you can get from your amp and use the  hot stomp models of your gt-10 like mt2 to have your distorted sound....

[heyman]

If you are using the AMP loop return in my experience most of your patch would sounded relatively the same. I tried the same patch using inksligerx Crate powerblock(power amp in), Marshall MG100 dfx return loop, Fender DSP Aux, Fender Twin reverb (tube power amp in loop return) JC120 in loop return. All has no differences just slightly distinct that you can easily adjust using GLOBAL EQ. All that I mentioned were hi wattage amp 65w to 120w but if you use it in a lower wattage thats a different story and co'z your patch maybe set in a smaller speaker/cab and this may not give you the same response in a high/bigger wattage and speaker. I not saying this is your case because you never mentioned what routing and various amp specs that you had test or used it.
There's also one factor contributing maybe on your issue that is if you are using the AMP (front)input this also varies due to various preamp clean setting and the sound would be compressed as you were stacking two preamp (both GT preamp and Guitar preamp) at the same time. Distortion pedals are preamp too and I think you this, it has its own volume/tone/gain/drive isn't it. Here's a good analogy use only two different distortion series (true bypass might be better) in your chain, one is clean and the other one is dirt setting, i'm sure you'll get a thin sounding compress distortion sound, then switch off the clean now then you'll hear a fat distortion sound your looking for. Hope I did help and wait for somebody to share also their experience with your same issue maybe they can give you a better answer and their case solution.      

I'm using a send/return loop minsan preamp ng GT-10 at clean preamp set sa guitar amp. sa bahay kasi i have a Peavey Transtube Special 212 and Fender Twin Reverb OK naman lahat but dahil inconvinient magdala ng malaking amp sa gigs di ko dinadala. kapag walang send/return loop yung amp nung bar then thats the time i'll use my patches with GT-10 Dist preamps lang from a different patch. Need ko ba i-adjust yung speaker cabinet na nakaassign sa patch ko like if im using 2x12" for the peavey 130W amp sa bahay then pagdating for example sa gig medyo maliit yung speaker nung amp ng bar change to 1x10"? Does it make a lot diffence sa output? And ang hirap i-adjust nung gusto mong sound dahil time constraint ka during sound check. Second is, is it better to use OD/DS sa GT-10 distortion preamp?

[heyman]

iba iba ang characteristics ng amp sir, parang babae 'yan iba-iba ang ugali.  the best way is to bypass the tonal character ng amp mo, it means parang you will use it na parang gt-10 direct to a speaker system lang, you can do this by trying to connect your gt-10 to the send/return or sa cd inputs (just in case meron) ng amp na sinasaksakan mo.  the best way talaga is to connect our gt-10 sa mixer or line etc kasi you can use the cab simulation and all of its benefits.

Another option is to get first the flat sound of your amp, it means the bass, middle, treble ng eq nya are all in
12 o-clock position  OR the middle is all the way up and the bass and treble are all the way down.  Next thing to remember is to turn off the cab simulation ng gt-10 so it will not affect the cab type that your amp have.   Why it is easier to use stomp boxes direct to an amp? basically the stomp box drives your amp, unlike the pre-amp of any multi fx, they are amp simulation, imagine an amp driving another amp it is a little complicated kasi ang daming factors like the amp types, speaker type,cab models,mic types and mic positioning.   Roger Yu creates different sets of patches for his fender amp and marshalls amp.   You may try to do the same.

I have checked din sa other article that if you are connecting directly to an amp it is better to use the stomp boxes of your gt-10 for over driven sound and dont use the pre amps of your gt-10.     Do this by getting first the cleanest sound that you can get from your amp and use the  hot stomp models of your gt-10 like mt2 to have your distorted sound....

Ah ok so it's better to use the stomp model ng GT-10 pero not necessary naman na hindi magiging maganda sound if preamp ng Gt-10 ang gagamitn. ok sir salamat. follow-up lang but not really related sa GT-10 masyado, hindi ba medyo maecho or mareverb ang JC-120 na amp? I've tried JC-90 ang ganda ng clean parang sa fender deluxe reverb.

[rogeryu]

Ah ok so it's better to use the stomp model ng GT-10 pero not necessary naman na hindi magiging maganda sound if preamp ng Gt-10 ang gagamitn. ok sir salamat. follow-up lang but not really related sa GT-10 masyado, hindi ba medyo maecho or mareverb ang JC-120 na amp? I've tried JC-90 ang ganda ng clean parang sa fender deluxe reverb.

Hindi naman, JC120 has three spring reverb unit producing warm distinct reverbation.
The problem would only using the GT with reverb na plus JC adding its own reverb just select which one best to you. I would suggest use LINE/PHONE output select connect the GT left and right out (stereo) to the Left and right in of the return (stereo) in series mode of the JC120 with -20db first then adjust it to +4db to check it out. That of course if you wanna use the advantage and feature of the GT modelling plus stereo in application. Remember built your patch aim to or using JC120 might not or i'm sure is wacko sounding to another AMP which Raiki already pointed out. Now if you will bring along the JC to any venue of your gig no problem that is to say your patch is in a ballpark only need to adjust the GT reverb as the venue if it is quite large or small, crowded or not. I hope this makes sense. You may or will get more ideas just as long you have patience enough to explore and experiment on various routing different amp to better get how flexible GT10 is. This is not just an hour exploring on a amp then blame the GT later on This is the case to some I know. GT10 is not a plug n play unit

Amen

[charlesdavidlim]

This is the case to some I know. GT10 is not a plug n play unit

Amen

+1. ang dami kasing features.

[heyman]

maganda rin sana kung sinama ng GT-10 yung amp foot switch na nakabuilt-in na agad para di ka na bibili ng additional amp foot switch saka isaksak pa sa amp ctrl. yun yung hinahanap ko tapos naka send/return pa hehe

[raikidoodles]

Ah ok so it's better to use the stomp model ng GT-10 pero not necessary naman na hindi magiging maganda sound if preamp ng Gt-10 ang gagamitn. ok sir salamat.

yes sir tama,  pero kung may send/return or cd in feature ang amp mo derecho ka na sa ganung set up, but minsan di maiwasan mainvite ka sa isang inuman na may jam and hahainan ka ng 30 watts practice amp na walang send/return, i suggest dun mu gamitin ang stomp models ng gt-10 mo, create ka ng patch ng stomp box models ang magdri-drive sa small practice amp mo, example mt2 sa od/ds, pre amp (turned off), + your favorite fx like delay, chorus, reverb, etc. . .  try nyo lang sir, at least may contingency plan hehehe,   but guys we must remember that our gt-10 is not a magic multi fx, it cannot make your 30watts amp to sound like a 100 watts mesa boogie, rectifier etc.  walang ganun. . .

[rogeryu]

maganda rin sana kung sinama ng GT-10 yung amp foot switch na nakabuilt-in na agad para di ka na bibili ng additional amp foot switch saka isaksak pa sa amp ctrl. yun yung hinahanap ko tapos naka send/return pa hehe

Comrade, by connecting your guitar amp's channel switching cable jack to the GT-10’s AMP CONTROL input, you can then use Amp Control to switch your guitar amp channel. See our manual page 132.
Use ASSIGN target amp control to any control pedal (ctrl1 or ctrl2) to function as now your guitar amp footswitch. Itago mo nlng yong AMP stomp footswitch mo  BUT read the manual depending on each AMP circuit design it may or may not function as indicated. It is best to test or check it out first before you buy a guitar amp to be sure. 

[heyman]

Comrade, by connecting your guitar amp's channel switching cable jack to the GT-10’s AMP CONTROL input, you can then use Amp Control to switch your guitar amp channel. See our manual page 132.
Use ASSIGN target amp control to any control pedal (ctrl1 or ctrl2) to function as now your guitar amp footswitch. Itago mo nlng yong AMP stomp footswitch mo  BUT read the manual depending on each AMP circuit design it may or may not function as indicated. It is best to test or check it out first before you buy a guitar amp to be sure. 

hmmm guitar amp channel switching cable jack? is it like the ordinary guitar cable? sorry medyo di ako familiar dun. gusto ko kasi sana itry yung mga switching na ganun