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Title: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bangbus on August 18, 2006, 08:05:02 AM
Need help fellas. as you may have noticed, my kit looks absurd with all those mic stands and it is for this reason that i embark on a new quest for Microphone Drum Rim Clips/Mounts.
I've tried Perfect Pitch park square/megamall, JB park square/megamall, Audiphile makati cinema square...lahat wala. If i'll buy naman here in uk, it will cost me 500pesos per piece and sa ebay uk naman 1500pesos for a set of 4. ang mahal noh?!
in this regard, i hope you guys would be able to help me source this in Manila. I need about 6-8 pieces. Please let me know where I can get them and how much. Thank you so much. :)
Title: Where can I find these Drum Microphone Mounting Clips? : )
Post by: marvinq on August 22, 2006, 03:04:52 PM
meron nyan sa audiophile. ibang brand lang. yung samson. try lazer, they have their own version too. I saw them at audiophile in festival mall in alabang.
those holders are from CAD microphones. unfortunately, there's no dealer here that carries that brand as far as i know.
Title: Where can I find these Drum Microphone Mounting Clips? : )
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on August 22, 2006, 04:05:56 PM
Quote from: marvinq
meron nyan sa audiophile. ibang brand lang. yung samson.
Title: Where can I find these Drum Microphone Mounting Clips? : )
Post by: bangbus on August 22, 2006, 05:02:57 PM
any idea magkano itong mga clips nato?
thank you! :)
Title: Where can I find these Drum Microphone Mounting Clips? : )
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on August 22, 2006, 05:12:53 PM
P950 per pack (3 pcs.)
Title: Where can I find these Drum Microphone Mounting Clips? : )
Post by: bangbus on August 22, 2006, 05:38:32 PM
Quote from: Tarkuz Toccata
P950 per pack (3 pcs.)
thanks bro, will go check it out, i hope meron pa. :D
Title: Where can I find these Drum Microphone Mounting Clips? : )
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on August 22, 2006, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: bangbus
Quote from: Tarkuz Toccata
P950 per pack (3 pcs.)
thanks bro, will go check it out, i hope meron pa. :D
http://www.audiophilecomponents.com/branches.php
Title: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 04, 2006, 05:26:39 AM
Anyone knows where I can get stainless steel tension rods? :oops:
Title: Re: Stainless rods?
Post by: bangbus on September 04, 2006, 06:10:56 AM
Quote from: thumbbull
Anyone knows where I can get stainless steel tension rods? :oops:
Lazer.
Don't forget to bring a sample coz they have various sizes/lengths. should be around 20 to 30 pesos a piece.
:D
Title: Stainless rods?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 14, 2006, 02:20:23 AM
the ones form LAZER are not ss steel.. :roll:
Title: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: bugoy on November 10, 2006, 09:29:28 PM
san makakbili ng mumurahing Drum Mic Clips ?
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 11, 2006, 01:13:51 AM
try mo sa lazer. alam ko meron
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: bugoy on November 11, 2006, 05:00:59 AM
ayus.. thanks... mga magkano kaya ? kahit estimate lang
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: bangbus on November 11, 2006, 05:36:15 AM
lazer mic clips ata is 250 a piece...appears to be very plasticy, unstable, and big na baka tamaan ng sticks yung mic, this is accordin to my bro who checked it out for me. try audiophile, bought mine last week from em care of fellow forumer tarkuz_tocata, a pack of 3 samson mic clips cost 950. i hope they've restocked na kasi he said i got the remainin 2 packs. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: bugoy on November 11, 2006, 05:51:45 AM
nice... thanks sir bangbus.. pero teka sir bangbus akala ko nasa UK ka ? kelan ka pa dito sa pinas ? at dun sa kit mo ? pansin ko lang ano yung parang mixer sa likod mo ?
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: bangbus on November 11, 2006, 07:35:43 AM
nice... thanks sir bangbus.. pero teka sir bangbus akala ko nasa UK ka ? kelan ka pa dito sa pinas ? at dun sa kit mo ? pansin ko lang ano yung parang mixer sa likod mo ?
yep still here, i just ask favours from people i can depend on to help me sort out some stuff over there. ah the mixer is a 12-channel powered one that i use to mic up and project my kit as if i were in a gig...thats one area of drumming that i have actually begun to explore lately.
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: pmack on November 11, 2006, 07:54:11 AM
lazer mic clips ata is 250 a piece...appears to be very plasticy, unstable, and big na baka tamaan ng sticks yung mic, this is accordin to my bro who checked it out for me. try audiophile, bought mine last week from em care of fellow forumer tarkuz_tocata, a pack of 3 samson mic clips cost 950. i hope they've restocked na kasi he said i got the remainin 2 packs. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
nice mic clips bro bangbus.. i have a couple of packs myself though i rarely use them coz i just taped my mics (neatly) onto my old cymbals stands para mas stable pag recording. if i can find my samson mic clips, would you be interested in buying them sir bugoy?
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: starfugger on November 11, 2006, 11:35:53 AM
lazer clips are kind of weird in a way because they really use CLIPS to hold the mic, isntead of your regular cylindrical plastic mic holder (or whatever it is officially called). so there's the danger of of falling drum mics. not good. plus it also comes in goose neck config, which doesnt always stay in place. not good, once again because drum micing is a precise art.
ive always wondered about mechanical noise when it comes to using drum clips. theoretically one would want to isolate mics in a way that they dont come in contact with vibrating objects. this is the reason why condenser mics have shock mounts. but then again condensers are much more sensitive than regular dynamic mics used to close mic the toms and the snare. in any case one's safest bet is perhaps to use mic stands. samson stands are very cheap, plus they will allow you to position your mic virtually anywhere u want ...
also, in the past i used my gibraltar rack as mic stands. i went to a machine shop and had adaptors custom made so that the hole fits the cymbal stand screw, and the outside of the adaptor fits in the mic clip. saved me a couple of thousand bucks on stands then.
Title: Re: Drum Mic Clips
Post by: Diadem on November 11, 2006, 04:16:16 PM
ayy guys mgakano ung LP claw?
cool yun eh .. rumors tell me that you cant buy those per piece... and it costs about 4k each daw...
Title: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: marko21 on January 10, 2007, 06:55:32 PM
Eh kasi yung sakin sa may baba na part yung butas ehh.. napansin ko mas mataas yung butas para sa screw sa spurs nung sa taas... :-D
picturan mo para maganda.. hihih
Title: Re: Bass drum spurs, san nakakabili?
Post by: drumster on January 10, 2007, 07:22:36 PM
Yung pic na na-post mo, yung nasa lower right, is that your actual bass drum?
The way I understand it... It's either your spurs are the old-style ones (just like the one in your lower left pic), or may holes na drilled for a specific model/design of spur.
It would be more helpful if you can post a pic of your actual bass drum and its spurs.
Title: Re: Bass drum spurs, san nakakabili?
Post by: bam0120 on January 10, 2007, 07:24:10 PM
Yung pic na na-post mo, yung nasa lower right, is that your actual bass drum?
The way I understand it... It's either your spurs are the old-style ones (just like the one in your lower left pic), or may holes na drilled for a specific model/design of spur.
It would be more helpful if you can post a pic of your actual bass drum and its spurs.
yung sa fernando ko ganyan. me lock yung sa me kahoy.. then sa may part ng baba.. meron ka pa pwede adjust... hirap explain eh.. pero parang ganon yung spurs nya
Title: Re: Bass drum spurs, san nakakabili?
Post by: marko21 on January 10, 2007, 07:35:01 PM
try ko picturan.. nasa sis ko kasi cam ehh.. :-(
Title: Re: Bass drum spurs, san nakakabili?
Post by: jpmb on January 11, 2007, 10:01:37 AM
Hi MARKO21, jpbm here, well i suggest bro if you have time and if is not too much of a hassle you can visit here in our showroom and bring your sample spurs so we can check if our spurs will fit yours...cheers man :wink:
Title: Re: Bass drum spurs, san nakakabili?
Post by: marko21 on January 11, 2007, 11:22:37 PM
Title: Re: Bass drum spurs, san nakakabili?
Post by: peeves24 on January 12, 2007, 09:59:51 AM
you need to drill new holes on your bass drum
- heavy duty spurs have different hole spacing - new spurs should be placed higher
Title: Re: Bass drum spurs, san nakakabili?
Post by: marko21 on January 12, 2007, 06:50:14 PM
aw...drill... ok next time na lang :-D
Title: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: chadrhix on February 14, 2007, 08:41:11 PM
ano po ba mas ok na tension rod yun gibraltar brand na 145php for 6 pcs or pwede na din yun lazer brand na 15php per pc. ?
thanks a lot
Title: Re: tension rod inquiry
Post by: bugoy on February 15, 2007, 12:33:09 AM
bumili ako niyang lazer one time 16 pcs yata di ko maalala, para sa picollo ko na 13x3, iba iba yung thread tapos hindi sakto yung pagkakapantay pantay, iisang size pero may mga konting difference basta hindi sakto
Title: Re: tension rod inquiry
Post by: toybitz on February 15, 2007, 03:25:25 AM
difference ng 50paysos? I'd go for the gibraltar.
Title: Re: tension rod inquiry
Post by: chadrhix on February 15, 2007, 05:24:42 AM
kaya pala mura, thanks a lot mga sir..
Title: Re: tension rod inquiry
Post by: bugoy on February 15, 2007, 05:39:31 AM
nakakainis yun man, gustung gusto ko isoli pero since not more than 200 lang naman nagastos ko dun ok lang tinago ko na lang.. pero nakakainis hindi pantay pantay. gamit ko pa rin yung stock ng pearl na picollo ko na medyo kala kalawang na ang mahal nung original na Pearl tension rods eh 350 yata for 6 pcs ? san nakaka bili niyang gibraltar ?
Title: Re: tension rod inquiry
Post by: chadrhix on February 15, 2007, 07:17:42 AM
@ bugoy grabe ang mahal nun sa pearl .. sa jb meron sir, 6 pcs. 145php.
thanks
Title: Re: tension rod inquiry
Post by: bugoy on February 15, 2007, 07:20:43 AM
@ bugoy grabe ang mahal nun sa pearl .. sa jb meron sir, 6 pcs. 145php.
thanks
oo angmahal nung pearl kaya nga nag settle na lang ako dun sa lazer kaso di naman pantay pantay kaya pinag tyagaan ko na lang yung kala kalawang na tension rods nung pearl na picollo ko ehehe... ma checkout nga yang gibraltar :-D Thanks sa info!
Title: Re: tension rod inquiry
Post by: chadrhix on February 15, 2007, 07:44:11 AM
Title: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vaisteen2003 on March 26, 2007, 12:52:35 PM
Hi philmusician,
im planning to buya kit for my 12yo nephew coz i want to get him into drums (reason ko para meron ako ka jam palagi sa house) but before i do that, i want to at least get an idea on the stuff i should look at when purchasing a kit. I played drums for 6 years but never really got into the technical aspect of it like what the actual drums are made of and things like that. So to sum things up, please give me some tips on what to look for when purchasing a kit.
Thank you and have a great day
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Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: daemonite on March 26, 2007, 01:59:36 PM
Depende po sir sa gusto mo na brand. But for my personal choice, and lifetime investment, I'd go for pearl drums. Just pm sir jpmb / jp buduan for the details or drop by yupanco makati na lang. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vaisteen2003 on March 26, 2007, 02:15:46 PM
ok to make thing a lil more specific. Budget is around 25-28k. no particular music so basicallt general set up lang.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: daemonite on March 26, 2007, 02:46:27 PM
Di ko lam kung magkano forum series ng pearl eh. Pm mo na lang po si jpmb.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: inigo on March 26, 2007, 06:27:09 PM
There's this guy selling his Pearl Forum in the Pinoy Drums mailing list for the budget you specified. A pretty good starter kit, if you ask me. Contact him at 09272540297.
Pics of the drums here: http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k91/timxtream/FRM.jpg
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jeva on March 26, 2007, 07:32:32 PM
baka may matisod ka dyan na nagbebenta ng PEARL EXPORT, dun ka na lang... konting tyaga lng sa paghahanap.. may nag bebenta ng premier dyan, same price range n hanap mo.. check out what model first, then saka mo ask ang mga seniors dito.... ako kc wl ding alam... just got lucky with my kit
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jun_BALARAW on March 26, 2007, 10:45:26 PM
ok to make thing a lil more specific. Budget is around 25-28k. no particular music so basicallt general set up lang.
ika mo nga eh 12 y/o lang ang gagamit.. bili mo kahit mumurahin lang or 2nd hand. lazer pwede na.. bata pa kasi eh pag binilhan mo ng mamahalin. baka katagalan mag sawa din or hindi niya talaga linya ang drums. at baka masayang ang pagbili mo..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vaisteen2003 on March 27, 2007, 12:50:00 PM
ok to make thing a lil more specific. Budget is around 25-28k. no particular music so basicallt general set up lang.
ika mo nga eh 12 y/o lang ang gagamit.. bili mo kahit mumurahin lang or 2nd hand. lazer pwede na.. bata pa kasi eh pag binilhan mo ng mamahalin. baka katagalan mag sawa din or hindi niya talaga linya ang drums. at baka masayang ang pagbili mo..
well actually para samin dalawa un. hehehe. reason ko lang sya. hahahah.
ok i think im not getting my message across. The answers i was looking for was, the materials the drums are madoe of, how many lugs, the importance of such and such.
just like buying a guitar, we look for wood, neck, fret wear and stuff.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jun_BALARAW on March 27, 2007, 01:17:03 PM
ok to make thing a lil more specific. Budget is around 25-28k. no particular music so basicallt general set up lang.
ika mo nga eh 12 y/o lang ang gagamit.. bili mo kahit mumurahin lang or 2nd hand. lazer pwede na.. bata pa kasi eh pag binilhan mo ng mamahalin. baka katagalan mag sawa din or hindi niya talaga linya ang drums. at baka masayang ang pagbili mo..
well actually para samin dalawa un. hehehe. reason ko lang sya. hahahah.
ok i think im not getting my message across. The answers i was looking for was, the materials the drums are madoe of, how many lugs, the importance of such and such.
just like buying a guitar, we look for wood, neck, fret wear and stuff.
ah ok
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on March 27, 2007, 01:29:35 PM
i had a choice then between a pearl export and a maya kit priced at 22k and 7k respectively (10 years ago). i choose the maya kit coz its cheap. after 5 years, my maya kit has become more expensive than the pearl export due to hardware upgrades and replacements. lesson learned: hardware is more expensive than drums, invest in a drum kit with really good hardware. check the metal used on the lugs, tom holders and stands, some current offerings look like "plastic" and they dont last long esp. on those who over tighten screws and nuts. shiny chrome plating and heavyness are signs of good hardware. stock pedals suck, invest on a high end pedal once you get extra money. GET A DRUM THRONE <--- very very important
shells, birch would be a good starting point but the type of wood is not really important now because your budget will not get you better wood. phil mahogany and bass wood are the common ones used on shells. its ok hehehe i know guitar players hate those woods. just check for ply separation and dents on the edge. finally inspect the finish.
drum sizes, for beginners, it would be really helpful to get those "fusion" sized kits usually configured with 10,12,14 toms and a 20 bass drum. these sizes are easy to tune and easier position for maximum playing comfort since the user would be a kid. standard drums with 12,13,16 toms and a 22 bass drum are ok too but it would be very difficult for beginners to tune the 16" tom.
drum heads - they dont matter, anything will do. you WILL replace them later on so there's no point in looking for something better from the start.
cymbals - go high end from the start, you cant upgrade the sound of cymbal. buy something mediocre and it will be mediocre sounding forever. you dont have to get all cymbals at once. chances are, there is a cymbal pack included so start with what's missing and then replace them one by one later. high end cymbals have good resale value, that's if the drummer decides to quit.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jpmb on March 27, 2007, 01:57:57 PM
i had a choice then between a pearl export and a maya kit priced at 22k and 7k respectively (10 years ago). i choose the maya kit coz its cheap. after 5 years, my maya kit has become more expensive than the pearl export due to hardware upgrades and replacements. lesson learned: hardware is more expensive than drums, invest in a drum kit with really good hardware. check the metal used on the lugs, tom holders and stands, some current offerings look like "plastic" and they dont last long esp. on those who over tighten screws and nuts. shiny chrome plating and heavyness are signs of good hardware. stock pedals suck, invest on a high end pedal once you get extra money. GET A DRUM THRONE <--- very very important
shells, birch would be a good starting point but the type of wood is not really important now because your budget will not get you better wood. phil mahogany and bass wood are the common ones used on shells. its ok hehehe i know guitar players hate those woods. just check for ply separation and dents on the edge. finally inspect the finish.
drum sizes, for beginners, it would be really helpful to get those "fusion" sized kits usually configured with 10,12,14 toms and a 20 bass drum. these sizes are easy to tune and easier position for maximum playing comfort since the user would be a kid. standard drums with 12,13,16 toms and a 22 bass drum are ok too but it would be very difficult for beginners to tune the 16" tom.
drum heads - they dont matter, anything will do. you WILL replace them later on so there's no point in looking for something better from the start.
cymbals - go high end from the start, you cant upgrade the sound of cymbal. buy something mediocre and it will be mediocre sounding forever. you dont have to get all cymbals at once. chances are, there is a cymbal pack included so start with what's missing and then replace them one by one later. high end cymbals have good resale value, that's if the drummer decides to quit.
well said peeves...yeah you are right..before i look at the drum throne as a simple seat on the drums...so why would i spend?...until later on i realized thats its hard to play and practice seriously if you are not comfortable with your seat... :wink:..drum throne is a must and yes peeves you are right that you cannot upgrade cymbals..go for the best value.. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on March 27, 2007, 02:13:05 PM
and for the best cymbal deals go to jpmb :mrgreen:
i got my sabian aax stage ride for less than musiciansfriend.com's price. partida, wala pa shipping yun at hindi old stock muhahaha
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jpmb on March 27, 2007, 02:37:59 PM
i had a choice then between a pearl export and a maya kit priced at 22k and 7k respectively (10 years ago). i choose the maya kit coz its cheap. after 5 years, my maya kit has become more expensive than the pearl export due to hardware upgrades and replacements. lesson learned: hardware is more expensive than drums, invest in a drum kit with really good hardware. check the metal used on the lugs, tom holders and stands, some current offerings look like "plastic" and they dont last long esp. on those who over tighten screws and nuts. shiny chrome plating and heavyness are signs of good hardware. stock pedals suck, invest on a high end pedal once you get extra money. GET A DRUM THRONE <--- very very important
shells, birch would be a good starting point but the type of wood is not really important now because your budget will not get you better wood. phil mahogany and bass wood are the common ones used on shells. its ok hehehe i know guitar players hate those woods. just check for ply separation and dents on the edge. finally inspect the finish.
drum sizes, for beginners, it would be really helpful to get those "fusion" sized kits usually configured with 10,12,14 toms and a 20 bass drum. these sizes are easy to tune and easier position for maximum playing comfort since the user would be a kid. standard drums with 12,13,16 toms and a 22 bass drum are ok too but it would be very difficult for beginners to tune the 16" tom.
drum heads - they dont matter, anything will do. you WILL replace them later on so there's no point in looking for something better from the start.
cymbals - go high end from the start, you cant upgrade the sound of cymbal. buy something mediocre and it will be mediocre sounding forever. you dont have to get all cymbals at once. chances are, there is a cymbal pack included so start with what's missing and then replace them one by one later. high end cymbals have good resale value, that's if the drummer decides to quit.
oh my god. finally.thank you sir ng madami. i will put all of these into consideration when buying a kit. ACtually ive used a gretsh fusion kit, not only its good for kids coz its kind of small, but i think it can improve your accuraccy.
again thanks
PS. basswood for guitars are not that bad but we guitarist try to stay away from it. hahahah
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jeva on March 27, 2007, 07:01:47 PM
i had a choice then between a pearl export and a maya kit priced at 22k and 7k respectively (10 years ago). i choose the maya kit coz its cheap. after 5 years, my maya kit has become more expensive than the pearl export due to hardware upgrades and replacements. lesson learned: hardware is more expensive than drums, invest in a drum kit with really good hardware. check the metal used on the lugs, tom holders and stands, some current offerings look like "plastic" and they dont last long esp. on those who over tighten screws and nuts. shiny chrome plating and heavyness are signs of good hardware. stock pedals suck, invest on a high end pedal once you get extra money. GET A DRUM THRONE <--- very very important
drum heads - they dont matter, anything will do. you WILL replace them later on so there's no point in looking for something better from the start.
cymbals - go high end from the start, you cant upgrade the sound of cymbal. buy something mediocre and it will be mediocre sounding forever. you dont have to get all cymbals at once. chances are, there is a cymbal pack included so start with what's missing and then replace them one by one later. high end cymbals have good resale value, that's if the drummer decides to quit.
Exactly what I did. I have very limited knowledge about hardwares then. I suddenly saw this ad for a pearl export. It was old, roughly early to mid 90's.. lugs are with corners and some sort of long connector between a pair of lugs... though rusted and beaten, I could say the hardware is superb. only a pair of lugs were replaced, and that was even before I got the kit.
I started knowing about the cymbals. 14" HH Dark crash was the first. I tried using it as top hat of a new Pearl cymbal hat came along with the old kit. (my guess is that the previous owner got a new Pearl kit). Then got a very good ride, then Hats, Then Evo crash and splash then a china recently...
It really is worth to wait for a good cymbals... believe Peeves, he knows it well.. bout the cymbals, as JPMB... he will give you a good deal and make sure that you get what you want and deserve..
Good luck....
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zound_tech on March 27, 2007, 09:42:40 PM
yung pearl export po namin sa church 10 years na, maayos pa po yung mga hardware, pero mas maganda sana kung naalagaan nung drummer na pinalitan ko, ma-alikabok kc sa lugar namin, wala namang bintana, pero alam ko po mura yun at maganda, tingin ko nga po tatagal pa yun ng another 10years... :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jpmb on March 28, 2007, 03:17:05 PM
i am a proud owner of a pearl export 1996 and 2003 models set..this sets are still alive and still handling the heavy pounding i give to them hahahaha :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Bats on May 09, 2007, 04:16:43 PM
Ey guys! I'm new here. I'm planning to buy a drum set tho wala ako masyado alam sa ganito like yun parts niya, sizes, specs and so on.
I have some questions po sana matulungan niyo ako.
-Ok po ba ang Gretsch na drums? Sa quality niya? Ano pinagkaiba neto sa ibang leading brands ng drums like yun Pearl? I've heard of this kasi and sabi nila ok daw to.
-Ano mas ok sa Catalina Maple and Ash?
-Anong other option pa ba ang malapet na ren sa Gretsh? Fernando, Sonor or iba pa?
-And lastly, sa mga natanong kong packages ang cymbals daw na kasama eh yun Zildjian Planet Z 4 pc. Is this set of cymbals ok?
- any tips pa po? ano ba dapat ko malaman when buying a set?
Bale gagamitin ko lng yun set indoors tho gs2 ko na rin sanang set eh yun mailalabas mo na rin for ocassional shows/gigs. And as much as possible eh yung tatagal talaga na set kase I don't have intentions of buying me a second set. Tama na ang isa kaya gs2 ko lahat andon na sa bibilin ko. ü
Oh of this one counts na ren, I'm planning to learn jazz style of drum playing.
I'm really sorry for the noobie questions.
Thanks much!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: wax_static on May 09, 2007, 06:27:45 PM
Ey guys! I'm new here. I'm planning to buy a drum set tho wala ako masyado alam sa ganito like yun parts niya, sizes, specs and so on.
I have some questions po sana matulungan niyo ako.
-Ok po ba ang Gretsch na drums? Sa quality niya? Ano pinagkaiba neto sa ibang leading brands ng drums like yun Pearl? I've heard of this kasi and sabi nila ok daw to.
-Ano mas ok sa Catalina Maple and Ash? For me, Maple...
-Anong other option pa ba ang malapet na ren sa Gretsh? Fernando, Sonor or iba pa? Depende sa model ng Sonor, ok yung mga bago na Fernando(sulit na sulit :D )
-And lastly, sa mga natanong kong packages ang cymbals daw na kasama eh yun Zildjian Planet Z 4 pc. Is this set of cymbals ok? Invest in good cymbals na.... dami sa classifieds... hanggang ngayon nanghihinayang pa ko dun sa set ng AAX for 15K :cry: :cry: :cry:
- any tips pa po? ano ba dapat ko malaman when buying a set? If you're unsure you're personal judgement... better bring along someone you trust that knows a thing or two about drums :D pero pointers... yung madaling ma notice: hardware... if its heavy.. probably.. ok yun.. i think :wink: except pedal.. hehehe check the shells, look for smooth, clean?, no deformities... try the kit...
Bale gagamitin ko lng yun set indoors tho gs2 ko na rin sanang set eh yun mailalabas mo na rin for ocassional shows/gigs. And as much as possible eh yung tatagal talaga na set kase I don't have intentions of buying me a second set. Tama na ang isa kaya gs2 ko lahat andon na sa bibilin ko. ü
Gretsch Maple, Pearl Export Series or better yet you're gonna learn jazz pala... get the sizes appropriate for Jazz... yun lang po...
Oh of this one counts na ren, I'm planning to learn jazz style of drum playing.
I'm really sorry for the noobie questions.
Thanks much!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: matteotanga on May 09, 2007, 06:34:11 PM
siguro sa kit ung new fernando and sa cymbals B8 will do and sa hardwer siguro sa clasifyd tingin ka para medyo mura.....gud luck bro sama ka sa mga EB dami ka matututunan....ako nag tuturo dun eh! joke joke joke!!!!! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sjon014 on May 09, 2007, 06:58:06 PM
It all depends on your budget, but you can't go wrong with the Gretsch Catalinas. Sonor Forces (Yung 2005 and 3005) are good too. But if buying these expensive sets mean you'll settle for the Z4 Cymbals, then reconsider muna. Z4 = Planet Z, the brass low-end cymbals of Zildjian. These don't really sound good at all.
It would be better to buy a cheaper set like Fernando (yung 28k na Marine Celluloid White!) so you can invest on better cymbals. Another alternative would be to wait for ads sa forums, so you can still buy better brands na second hand, and you can do this for your cymbals as well.
Um... Ano pa? Fusion setup siguro instead of the standard Rock setup would be good for Jazz drumming.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: xjepoyx on May 10, 2007, 01:11:10 AM
Punta ka PIER
may TAMA dun na starclassic yata for 18k
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Bats on May 11, 2007, 10:59:17 PM
Thanks much sa reply guys.
just wanna know how bad yung Planet Z? di ba tatagal to? what about yun ZBT na cymbals?
sa ngayon eh balak na talaga namen is to go for the Gretsh Catalinas pero nagaalinlangan na kame coz sa comments nyo sa cymbals baka mag sisi kami. Pwede daw namen baguhin ng ZBT cymbals are those any good? Kaso ang laki ng dagdag >.<
@ edgeofillusion-jepoy - thanks are TAMA drums ok? san gawa yan?
@ sjon014 - salamat dude, panu yun fusion setup? and ok ba Fernando? Local to dba? Sabe nla di daw maganda yun pero ok b yun new sets nla?
@ matteotanga - dude thanks..kaw pala nag 22ro? 2ruan mo ko pag makasama ako ha! :D
@ wax_static - ey man salamat sinagut mo pa talaga isa isa yun tanongs ko. anyways, anu b ang sized appropriate for jazz like you said? Mas trip ko na rin ata yun maple pero mas costly siya!
Thanks again guys!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sjon014 on May 11, 2007, 11:22:50 PM
I think believe Fusion is the 10", 12", and 14" toms (all hanging), instead of the usual 12", 13", and 16" tom rock setup. Better uniformity when running down the toms, and the 14" tom is much easier to tune in my opinion than the 16".
The old fernando's were not really good... pero ito ang bagong Fernando!
Great diba? As for ZBT's... they are better than Planet Z syempre, pero I still would suggest you get cast bronze cymbals if your budget permits. Or unti-untiin mo.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 11:37:59 AM
newbie po. di ko alam kung meron ng ganitong topic. balak ko kasi bumili ng drumset. meron na akong gitara. ngayon naman e trip ko matutong mag drums naman. kaya shopping around for that 'perfect' drums.
eto po gusto ko malaman:
1) brand 2) local or hindi 3) price range 4) some feedback on the item (what to look out for)
padagdag na rin po kung ano ang mga advice nyo kung ano pa kelangan malaman ng isang gustong bumili ng drum set e.g. by piece ba ok o dapat buong set na?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Akira JUMBO on August 09, 2007, 12:46:27 PM
Warm welcome to Pinoydrums bolong :lol:
all your questions will depend on one thing..your budget :wink:
give us a price mark and we will better to answer your queries..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: daemonite on August 09, 2007, 12:55:27 PM
You can never find the "perfect" drumset hangga't may nagmamanufacture pa ng mga bagong models, pero you can get the next best thing.
Pearl has this custom line of drumset na ikaw mismo pipili ng wood, size, even color. now how's that for perfection. Expect mo rin na may kamahalan ang price.
Pero if you want customization, contact peeves. heheeh, da best yan....
Pero if you really are a newbie on drums, and on a tight budget ka, fernando kits are great for starter kits. Yung bago ha, hindi yung luma.
OT - A musician's advice: Find the instrument that you truly feel in your heart, hindi porke marunong ka na sa isang gamit, and you'd like that instrument, lipat ka dun. No, kung ano talaga ang nasa puso mo, yun ang gamitin mo, improve, be one of the best. I know i have found mine in drumming, dami nagco-comment sa akin, balik ka na lang ng keyboard dahil yun ang kinalakihan mo. I answer back, I get my orgasms during gigs in drumming 8-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 12:56:50 PM
siguro po mga 12-20k lang po budget ko. estudyante lang po kasi ako e!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 01:05:42 PM
wow! astig pala mag join dito! feeling ko very welcome ako! and looks like everyone's very helpful! ty po!
sa brand new fernando set po, magkano po ang price? and saan po kung sakali maganda mag shop for 1?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: alvin_11 on August 09, 2007, 01:43:45 PM
wow! astig pala mag join dito! feeling ko very welcome ako! and looks like everyone's very helpful! ty po!
sa brand new fernando set po, magkano po ang price? and saan po kung sakali maganda mag shop for 1?
sa raon bro..pero kung 12-20k naman ang budget mo, mag sonor kana! sa metrotech 17k lang yun..bagong bago pa! hindi ko lang alam kung anung model pero ang alam ko wala pang cymbals yun..dagdag ka lang po ng 4k sa budget para SUKLI+4k=PLANET Z! :lol: pero kung fernando nman po ang hanap mo, i think mas maganda kung sa jb ka nalang po bibili..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 03:18:40 PM
Pearl?
Fernando?
Sonor?
Kasi po newbie lang po ako at gusto ko pong makahanap ng drumset...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: autoexec on August 09, 2007, 05:20:11 PM
oo, kung fernando sa JB nlang..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 07:41:01 PM
cheapest model ata costs 20k. ayos na ba yun? may nakapagsabi din kasi na baka pag mura o low-end kukunin e magmumura ka rin later sa problem mo e.g. loose thread,...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: alvin_11 on August 09, 2007, 07:52:22 PM
sir, mas maganda po kung mag sonor nalang po kayo. mas madali po kayung matututo kapag mas maganda ang mga gamit. i think sonor 505 ata yung 17k dun sa raon pero pwedeng pwede pa po tawaran. tapos yung sukli dagdagan niyo nalang po ng mga 2-3k may planet Z na po kayo. Decent na po pang practice. sulit pa po yung sonor kasi Remo na po lahat ng skins nun and yung mga hardware talagang durable. ayus din naman po yung fernando kaya lang 20k vs. 17k? wow.. i think mas maganda po ang sonor. opinion and advice lang po.. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 08:33:39 PM
based sa experience ba ang suggestion mo? so parehas lang sonor at fernando? yung 17k ba e sa raon lang? kasi balak ko jb kasi pwede i 0%(???)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 08:45:56 PM
eto po ba yung sinasabi nyo???
SONOR SPECIAL EDITION 505 STAGE SET
Sonor Special Edition Series "Stage Set", based of the Sonor 505 Series, Color: Black, Covered Shells, 50 Year Anniversary Thomann Drum Set, Sonor Special Edition Badge, containing: 22"x17" Bass Drum, 14"x 5 1/2" Wood Snare Drum, 12"x09" - 13"x10" Tom Toms, 16"x16" Floor Tom, included 5-piece Hardware Set containing: Straight Cymbalstand. Boom Cymbalstand, Hi-Hat Stand, Snare Drum Stand, Bass Drum Pedal, included Drummer Throne, included "Cast Version" Cymbalset containing 14" Hi-Hat, 16" Crash, 20 Ride, included Cymbal Bag :| :|
(http://)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 08:54:21 PM
(http://images4.thomann.de/pics/prod/176299.jpg)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jacobus on August 09, 2007, 09:04:22 PM
id go with sonor kc mas cheaper and its more durable from my experience with sonor drums sets.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 09, 2007, 09:08:15 PM
Thanks For The Advice.. 8-) :-D . Mas mura po ba pag sa raon?? Accepted po ba dun ang credit card or % interest???
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zound_tech on August 09, 2007, 09:25:18 PM
just got home from a friend's house, he let me use his pearl export that he bought a month ago, it cost him around 56k together with the b8 cymbals, all i can say is that it was all worth it, from the looks, to the sound and the hardware, at talgang nakakainspire nga magpractice, i had a hard time leaving his place, anyways, the point is that, if you're really serious about drumming, go buy the set that you really like if it means a little more saving, investment naman yan eh pero if your rili tight, sonor force is not a bad choice, yun gamit sa skul namin, bili ka nalang skin and decent cymbals
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: alvin_11 on August 09, 2007, 09:39:03 PM
ang alam ko po bihira ang tumatanggap ng credit card sa raon.. yes mas mura dun.. :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: greysky on August 09, 2007, 10:08:16 PM
sa Perfect Pitch may 0% din po. IMO kung bibili ka po ng drumset kung gusto mo naman talaga ang pag dadrums... bumili ka ng sulit bro.. investment na din yan pero kung kulang ang budget mo talaga and if you cant wait ok lang din. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Kels on August 09, 2007, 11:01:17 PM
mga sir ..
balak ko din kasi bumili ng set , pero pang practice lang naman ng grupo namin.. (ndi kasi ako drummer ) :-D
and may nag sabi sakin na ang bilin ko ay kahit mumurahin nalang na set tapos palitan ko nalang daw ung skin? ..
ok lang ba ung ganun?
salamat po :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Single Stroke Seven on August 10, 2007, 09:46:09 AM
siguro po mga 12-20k lang po budget ko. estudyante lang po kasi ako e!
Just my opinion: Instead of buying a drumset right away, I think you're better off buying a drum pad muna and find a good teacher. Get one of those pads with built-in metronome (mga worth 2K siguro) and work on your rudiments. Find a good teacher who will guide you as you go along. Now kapag tumagal ka ng 6 months or even a year just doing rudiments and which by that time (hopefully) you have mastered the rudiments then maybe you can justify buying a really good kit. Kasi kung bibili ka na kaagad ng drumset and after a few months nawalan ka ng gana, sayang lang yung set. Even if you sell it, sigurado lugi ka.
I guess what I'm really trying to say is find out first if desidido ka talagang mag-drums. And you can easily find that out by taking lessons. Mga iba, a few months into the lessons give up na sila, which means di talaga sila desidido matuto.
Isa pang "disadvantage" ng purchasing drums right away is that you will want to learn songs right away. Instead of focusing muna on the basics, gusto mo ng mag-groove with songs kaagad. In effect, you might be tempted to neglect the basics that a drummer should know. Pero kung drum pad lang, no choice ka but to work on your rudiments muna. So siguro mas maganda kung gawin mong trophy at the end yung drumset. Tell yourself na when you have finally mastered the basics of drumming then you can have the coveted trophy, which is actually the drumset itself.
And believe me, when you have mastered the basics and move on to the real drumset you will have a MASSIVE advantage over the others na kaagad nag-groove without really learning the basics.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: black_panther on August 10, 2007, 10:27:48 AM
siguro po mga 12-20k lang po budget ko. estudyante lang po kasi ako e!
one big factor here is the maximum budget that you want to spend on your drumset, i suggest you increase a bit your budget and buy a decent one, drums are one time investment usually.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: TMS on August 10, 2007, 10:50:14 AM
you might consider the Mapex Q series, 24,995 SRP :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Akira JUMBO on August 10, 2007, 02:07:18 PM
I just realized that this is a complicated issue; well the best advice I can give you is maximize what you have/what you can have and make sure you like what your getting..
I agree with the concept of having the perfect drum kit..perfection is to each is his own which I think can only be possible with how you perceive perfection towards what you have..
I will place myself as an example, I myself own only an entry level kit but on a personal plane I consider this to be my perfect drum kit in its own way (really honestly!!! :wink:); others may think otherwise but it does not really matter, you will be the one creating a relationship with your new kit and not them so as a golden rule "never try to please everybody for you will surely fail".. :lol:
when you do get more specific on having particular kit options I think we might be able to help you more..keep us posted!
hope this helps a bit..good luck and happy hunting! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 10, 2007, 08:13:19 PM
ano po ba ung IMO????
Kapag bumili po ba ng sonor 505 sa raon? meron na po bang cymbals? thank you po
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Akira JUMBO on August 10, 2007, 08:32:01 PM
it cost him around 56k together with the b8 cymbals, all i can say is that it was all worth it,
56k vs. 17k hindi little po saving yan.. anlayo eh.. tsaka 56k for an export.. wow.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pointless on August 10, 2007, 09:45:48 PM
kung gusto mo ng matagalan na drums.. ipunin mo muna yan... practice pads muna... tapos pag me pera ka na... mas pipiliin ko Yamaha Rydeen kesa sa Pearl Export... kahit tambay ako sa pearl drummers forum mas gusto ko tunog ng Rydeen kaso maganda hardware ng Export... pero mas mura yung rydeen.. same entry level drums sila...
dun sa raon... ung sonor.. fernando... na magkakapresy halos parepareho lang na beginner kit yan...
mabuti na yung medyo mapapagastos ka kesa sa bibili ka ngayon pero pag nalaman mo pala na hindi yun yung gusto mong drums masasayang lang...
tulad ko wahaha... yung powerbeat kong drumset sampung taon na.. bebenta ko.. pag nakabili ako ng bagong heads bebenta ko to pambili ng rydeen o kaya export... ipopost ko dito.. hehe..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Akira JUMBO on August 11, 2007, 04:32:47 PM
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bolong on August 17, 2007, 02:44:20 PM
thank you po sa mga suggestion niyo...
surf ako sa jbmusic. may offer sila na maya ft900c for 11,500. reg price is 16,500 daw. gud buy kaya ito? meron din silang 19k na fernando. ano po tingin nyo?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kawal on August 17, 2007, 02:46:33 PM
Hi guys.
Im planning to buy a kit next week. na-commando ko nung isang araw yung Raon and I've decided to buy a Sonor Force 507. makukuha ko sya for less than 20k (mga ganun...). eto sya,
I want to know kung anong mga specifics ang kailangan kong i-check before ko kunin; kung anong mga technical hardware specs ang kailangan kong i-check bago ko bilhin yung kit.
Thanks in advance guys. 8-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kawal on August 18, 2007, 01:03:24 PM
^nabili ko na, kanina.
Maraaaaaaaming salamat po sa nagsuggest at nagbigay ng comments. :-D
* PINOYDRUMS FORUM GUIDELINES 4. No excessive use of punctuation marks, symbols, and smileys.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: grendil8 on December 13, 2007, 12:34:15 PM
ano po bang mga dapat consider kung bibili ka.. im planning to buy drumset and a couple of hardwares..
> bibili po ako ng mga cymbals stands and drum stuffs.
sana matulungan niyo ako
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: maplesyrup on December 13, 2007, 01:23:15 PM
pag hardware matibay dapat, double braced mas ok.. tapos pag magbabayad kana.. hingi ka discount! meron lagi yun! hehehehe!
pag sa drums.. hirap explain eh.. tingnan mo yung kahoy sa luob ng drum. nner shell..baka may butas butas.pampapangit ng tunog yun.
sa cymbals.. dipende sayo kung ano gusto mong tunog..trust your ear.. hirap magsabi kung ano ang maganda.. iba iba tayo ng taste.. pero para safe ka.. A custom.. swabe tunog!
sana makatulong ang konti kong nalalaman! bow!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jckazs on December 13, 2007, 01:39:17 PM
My 2 cents =)
Drums:
1) Type of Wood check: http://www.drumdojo.com/tech/shelldesign.htm
2) Sizes - Fusion (normally, 10, 12, 14 yung config ng toms. suitable for pop; rock; jazz) - Standard (12, 13, 16. suitable for loud music)
3) Bearing edges Yung edge ng drums...kung san nag sasalubong yung drum head at yung drum shell. Dapat consistent yung angle ng edges at walang dings
3) Tom suspension
Hardware
Normally, mga kit dito me kasama ng decent double braced hardware. Keep the cymbal stands...buy a mid or a high end drum pedal (double chain driven). Kung me extrang pera, bili ka din ng hi hat stand na me spring tension. Invest in a good drum throne. Ito yung pinakaimportanteng hardware sa lahat
:-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jadee on May 10, 2008, 10:33:07 AM
hi!
im going to learn how to play the drums and im planning to buy a good drum set. what can you advise if im just starting. a friend is selling his pearl (2nd hand) at 10k. is the price reasonable? what should i consider in buying this?
thank you
Title: Important Pointers In Buying Drums (Brand New or 2nd Hand)
Post by: suspendead on September 30, 2008, 03:39:22 PM
This topic was brought up by a friend who is concerned about our new members in terms of buying new or used gears. If you have any suggestions or anything to add, please feel free to do so...
One thing that new members should know about is what to buy. New members should know what they really want to buy. Have a breif idea what those gears are and if they are the real thing. Some people might sell you a copy. Try to get proper information about the product, ask around. Everybody are willing to help out. Also buy gears that you will be using, not just because it is "COOL".
Any other suggestions???
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mondi99060451 on September 30, 2008, 03:42:46 PM
compare nyo sa internet yung mga items na bibilhin nyo kung nasa tamang range ba yung price:
sa cymbals, kung faded na ang logos, inspect nyo yung physical appearance ng cymbals like lathing, hammering, etc... para malaman nyo kung authentic yung bibilhin nyong gear.
kung brand new yung item tapos, hindi pa ganun ka established yung source, magtanong tanong muna, mahirap mag ipon!!!
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: Gep on September 30, 2008, 03:43:47 PM
1. Save up and aim for high-end equipment, even if it's second-hand.
2. Most of the time, original stuff is always better than replicas.
3. An artist signature item is not always better than standard equipment. It's just different. Take a look at Chad Smith and Morgan Rose snare drums.
4. A product endorsed by an artist doesn't always equate to a great product. Take the Travis Barker-endorsed Pitch Black series cymbals, for example.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: Roger Edrickson on September 30, 2008, 03:49:10 PM
high five dude!!! :lol:
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: smutdrummer on September 30, 2008, 03:52:51 PM
invest on quality gear. it will pay off in the end, because you will never have to buy anything for upgrade. yung tipong pwede mo pang magamit in the next decade :)
hindi lang dapat grab lang ng grab ng item para mukhang madami tingnan at maangas or cool. im a victim of this then hehehe.
youd rather have 2 K's rather than say 6 ZBT's :)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: uglyguy on September 30, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
eto lang suggestion ko .. wag maging impulsive buyer ... isipin nyo muna kung need nyo ... sayang ang pera
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: paeng16 on September 30, 2008, 04:11:45 PM
1) HARDWARE - Yung DDRUMS ko binalik ko dahil marupok yung mga bakal nun. And make sure na may mabibilhan kang SPARE PARTS pag may nasira. 2) Wood - Maple or birch ang maganda. 3) TOM size - Standard (12,13,16) or Weird size (10,12,14) or other size (10,12, 16,16). It's up to you what kind of beats you want to play.
to be safe, get two or three models that you like and ask the GOOD PEOPLE here in the forums! :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: shotsofredmist on September 30, 2008, 04:28:54 PM
tama dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dapat pagisipan ng mabute ang gagawing move pag bibli! =D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 30, 2008, 05:01:17 PM
compare nyo sa internet yung mga items na bibilhin nyo kung nasa tamang range ba yung price..
To add to this do not overlook the shipping and tax duties when comparing prices to foreign sources.
It is not fair for buyers to directly compare to foreign sources as if they are just next door and complain that prices here are high. Do not forget to include all expenses when canvassing.
As for me the simplest tip I can offer to newbies is: Seek advice! :wink:
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: suspendead on September 30, 2008, 05:27:21 PM
One more thing...
Make sure that what you are buying, "Specially high-end and other branded items", are authentic. Meaning they are the real thing and not just cheap immitations. We all know, almost all branded things these days can be easily copied...
Also, make sure that when a seller is selling you used items, you know if its 3rd hand or 2nd hand. So can have a brief idea of the price. Some people buy stuff as second hand and then sell it as second hand but the price is higher than how much the seller got it. Just so everybody will be aware.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: plitipiw40315 on September 30, 2008, 05:32:54 PM
eto ang kailangan ko..more advice pa nga po..hehe..salamat..
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: kibohead on September 30, 2008, 05:52:57 PM
Basta trust yourself...pag nagdududa ka, then dun ka magtanong sa mga friends mo na alam yung product or find other sources from the net. Wag din bili ng bili...kung susundin mo lang yun sarili mo jan, maniwala ka, di ka matatapos. hahaha!
Tapos sa maga nagbebenta naman, oks naman kumita, di masama yun, pero sana wag lang sobra sobra, mahirap ang mga musikero...walang pera dito.
At yung iba din, kung di niyo naman talaga alam yung sinasabi niyo, eh di tahimik nalang, mahirap magmarunong marunong, madami kasi tayo pwede ma confuse dun.
At sana maging patas sa lahat ng bagay...walang gamitan ng kapit o pwersa.
Magmahalan, Respeto at Pagtutulungan ang dapat natin itaguyod sa PInoydrums. Mabuhay tayong lahat. We are the world! wahahahaha! :lol:
Tentenenen--tenen!!!
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mondi99060451 on September 30, 2008, 05:58:48 PM
hirap nga kumita ang mga musikerong Pinoy. Kadalasan T.Y. ang bayad sa gigs. Kaya yung gears, dugo't pawis ang puhunan ng mga musikero diyan. :-)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: kimpoy19 on September 30, 2008, 06:12:01 PM
hirap nga kumita ang mga musikerong Pinoy. Kadalasan T.Y. ang bayad sa gigs. Kaya yung gears, dugo't pawis ang puhunan ng mga musikero diyan. :-)
that's right. Newbee rin ako. But kahit na baguhan ka ay dapat marunong kang tumuingin ng mga gamit. you should know the things, items, accessories, spares that you should buy. Pagaralang mabuti yung mga bibilhin mo, kung medyo nalilito sa gamit, pwede ka namang magtanong sa mga kaibigan mo at syempre dito sa Philmusic. :-D :-D
always check the availability of the spare parts, kung nagpoproduce parin sa market.
hope that this will help.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: FINGERZAP on September 30, 2008, 06:23:47 PM
OT: Bro, it's FUSION size. And it's not at all weird. :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: inigo on September 30, 2008, 06:24:59 PM
- In judging on whether or not something sounds good, don't rely on description of sounds. Try stuff out first before you commit to buy. In checking out the gear, bring along a friend who's experienced.
- Info on gear that artists use is a useful start for info on the question "what [insert gear here] sounds good for [insert music here]".
- "More expensive gear" does not mean "better sounding gear", nor does it mean "most appropriate gear for your music". This wisdom is important when gassing for something (haha).
- Take time to do research. The internet is your friend. :)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: prjm14 on October 01, 2008, 01:41:45 AM
dont buy with your eyes.. :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: xalanx on October 01, 2008, 04:50:55 AM
buy the things that you need not the things that you want. tapos in the end bebenta mo rin. save up for the gears that are very useful to you.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: siore on October 01, 2008, 05:10:13 AM
Don't buy drums if you're into guitars. :-D I eventually sold mine because it just gathered dust.
Better buy 2nd hand, high-end, so you get better re-sale value. Wag tumulad saken. I bought a cheap-ass, brand new set, only to sell it at less than half the original price. :|
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: paeng16 on October 01, 2008, 10:13:17 AM
PAENGS SELECTING A CYMBAL HOW TO: :-D
- Listen how it sounds NEAR and FAR (about 20Ft.). The sound WILL VARY/CHANGE if the listener is near or far from the set.
- Select different types of cymbals (Specially in crash cymbal). It is better to have DIFFERENT VOICES of cymbals than hitting different cymbals with the SAME VOICE.
- Look at the BELL SIZE of the cymbal. Usually, the bigger the BELL, the more DENGGGgg it sounds. The smaller the bell the more WEEIISHHHH it sounds.
- The heavier or thicker the bell, the more DARKER it sound. Thin/light cymbals is for the WOOOUUUSHHHH sound. (parang splash).
- In testing the cymbal, hit it in all places (bell, edge, mid, bell+neck of stick, edge+neck of the stick, etc). This way, you can hear all the VOICES that the cymbal has. This is important because this will determine if the cymbal has a SWEET SPOT! (or G SPOT) hehehehe :-D
FINALLY, MAG YOUTUBE or magGOOGLE ka for more info! :lol:
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: lil.drummerboy on October 01, 2008, 11:36:45 AM
oi nice thread. maganda to makaka tulong sa newbies tulad ko :)
buy the things that you need not the things that you want. tapos in in the end bebenta mo rin. save up for the gears that are very useful to you.
onga tamang tama yan! :)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: phfreq on October 01, 2008, 09:10:09 PM
a couple of things come to mind:
-- of course, "needs" first before "wants" -- they're almost always different :-) -- availability of spare parts -- after sales service -- importante to kasi after mo gumastos ng malaki tapos maiiwan ka na lang pala mag-isa -- trying the items personally is the best kasi mahirap i-ensure yugn pagkakapare-parehas ng tunog na lalabas -- ang daming factors -- research, research and research...
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: shotsofredmist on October 01, 2008, 09:32:28 PM
buy the things that you need not the things that you want. tapos in the end bebenta mo rin. save up for the gears that are very useful to you.
Tinamaan ako don ah. :))
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: nikogulo on October 01, 2008, 10:03:19 PM
Just buy what you need :-) buying drum stuff is an investment!!! so spend wisely! what i do is, when I buy a drum product 2md hand or brand new, I make sure that I use it and earn the money I spent on the product. That way parang nabawe mo na investment mo. Hindi mura ang equipment natin.. :mrgreen: (did i make sense?)
Rock! :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: metalmuhlisha on October 01, 2008, 10:28:47 PM
pag isipan kung ano talaga ang gusto mong "sound", lalo na pag sa cymbals. make an outline of what you want to buy in the long-run. kung may idea ka na, arrange mo kung alin mga uunahin mo at alin yung long-term.
ako kasi may plan na ako kung ano yung mga gamit na kelangan ko. pag nakuha ko na lahat yun, di na ko bibili pa e. kasi alam kong hanggang yun nalang yung kelangan ko. unless of course may mag regalo sakin, or may mas magandang equivalent, etc. and even then, i would think twice about it.
pangit din kasi yung bili ka lang ng bili ng kahit anong trip mo. marami ka ngang gamit, e may naipon ka bang pera?
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: kibohead on October 02, 2008, 12:01:53 AM
pero, music evolves so does your playing, pwede sa ngayon, yung ang kailangan mo pero pag tagal as you grow, develop and learn new skills, your playing may require more tools. kaya mahirap din talaga...challenging...yes, but very enjoying as well.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: firecracker_pop on October 02, 2008, 08:05:57 AM
hehehe... guilty ako sa pagka-addict sa pag bili ng cymbals!
hahaha!!!
though kumpleto na yung triangle set up, humihirit pa rin ng isang crash kahit di naman ganun ka-kailangan at wala naman din pambili!
nyahaha!!!
nice thread. :-D
ang advice ko naman is, humingi ng discount. nagbibigay sila! better yet, antayin ang BER BER sale! weeeeeeeeee!
sale na naman sa JB! woohoo!!!
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: powercharge on October 02, 2008, 10:27:01 AM
Kung bago ka pa lang talaga sa pagbili ng drum items, better visit JB, Audiophile, Perfect Pitch, Lyric, and The Music Source/Hi-Fi lounge.
High quality products nila at malawak ang range ng prices. Malaking tulong din na may alam yung mga sales peeps dun.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: paeng16 on October 02, 2008, 01:18:49 PM
hanap ka ng IDOL then gayahin mo setup nya! hehehe..
I suggest you invest in good cymbals.. Kasi mabebenta mo naman yun nang magandang presyohan.
suggest ko din (kung METAL ka!)..
1) buy DROP CLUTCH for the HI HAT.. ito yung pinapalo at bibitaw ang top hihat.. para maka double-kick ka! (650 to 800 lang to men. gibraltar pa ang brand). Tapakan mo ulit yung hihat at kakgatin nya ulit yung top hihat. Ayus to men.
2) Kung may drop clutch kana.. Buy Double-kick or twin-pedal. (Gibraltar price is about 6,500 last year price).
3) Hwag kang bibili ng CRAPPY (China made) Cymbal stand. humangin lang ng konti or mapalo mo ng mali ay tutumba na yun! Ang pangit pa ng itchura. hehehe.. dagdag kalang ng mga 600 GIBRALTAR na mabibili mo.
HWAG NA HWAG KANG BIBILI NG CHINA MADE CRAPPY ITEMS. madaling masira at ang badtrip pa nyan. Baga sa GIG mismo bumigay yon! hehehe...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: chrism_rivera on October 04, 2008, 12:08:58 AM
I'm planning to buy a kit, which brand do you think is the best? May tinutugtugan po kasi ako Pearl na export series ang bilis nag loose nung mga screw ng hardware.
Ano po pinaka ok dito, yamaha, tama o sonor?
If you could advise any other brand which you think is better ok din po!
Budget would be around 40Kto 60K.
Thanks and God Bless!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: thunder_god on October 04, 2008, 01:16:53 AM
Might as well get a Pearl Vison Series drums from JB. Thay have a variety of Vison Series depending on the type of wood used. HW from Pearl doesn't get that loose unless battered and abused. It really depends from the user on how he plays and takes care of the kit. JB is also on sale right now so you might want to check them out. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on October 04, 2008, 01:21:02 AM
bro,
go for TAMA superstars!!!
a good kit, for a not so high price :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: metalmuhlisha on October 04, 2008, 01:27:31 AM
at that price range, i'd go for a TAMA (great finishes) or a MAPEX (may libreng black panther snare)
copied+pasted from black_panther's multiply:
Quote
Mapex promo
20% off on m birch and pro maple models plus an optional free black panther 12" cherry snare (worth 11,495) or a Stagg y253 cymbal set (worth 10,995)
20%off on VX limited edition, VX jazz kit, VX standard plus a free Stagg y253 cymbal set (worth 10,995)
Mapex Drum set buyers during the promo period can get a 20% discount on their next purchase of any Stagg Cymbals or Mapex Products. They just need to show receipt of proof of purchase.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: adidas ni hudas on October 04, 2008, 01:38:16 AM
laki naman ng budget mo .. kakainggit ka .. anyways, i suggest you go for TAMA superstars.. tapuz yun sobra bili mo ng cymbals .. yung extrang cymbals pwede mong donate sa kin .. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: smutdrummer on October 04, 2008, 02:12:32 AM
id go for the superstar kase bias ako sa Tama brand hehehe
or pearls vision yung sparkle meron ako nakita sa trinoma, parati ko pinpuntahan yun para picturan lang :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: barabbas on October 04, 2008, 02:33:07 AM
Well as you can see on the post everyone here is telling you that you go for Tama superstar the strongest name on drums... if your budget is 60k shoot na shoot na sa Tama superstar custom laquered finish plus discount pa... you can get that below 60k... you will not get disappointed on the hardwares dahil Road-pro series hardwares na ang gamit ng superstar. The one that they used on starclassic series.... plus die-cast hoops already... you can check that on this link...
you will see the difference.... compare to other drum kits.... but still it's your choice but choose wisely.... god bless.....
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 04, 2008, 09:00:39 AM
sa 60K budget..
Pwede ka mag gretch, pearl, tama, Ludwig etc. Pero consider mo muna to.
1) Cymbals < mahal to at baka mawalan ka nang budget for this babies. 2) Skins or bater heads. (yung mga nasa new drums kasi 1 ply lang, pag narinig mo yung mga pinstipe ma papawow ka men.). 3) double-kick or twin-pedal. < mga 7k to 8K din to. iba na kasi yung may ABANG na double-kick sa single kick eh. Kasi less than a year (for newbies) magsasawa ka sa single kick at hahanap ka din ng double-kick. 4) THRONE - a good throne like gibralter cost about 3K. Men importante ito kahit sinong drummer will agree.
So given all those things and with 60K budget, i'd go for... 1) ludwig(birch) 8,12,13,16 toms with conversion kit this is under 40K sa JB with ZBT cymbals na to. 2) Buy double-kick na gibraltar (mga 7K to 8K). 3) Gibraltar throne (3K). 4) Zildian K 12" Splash + gibraltar boom (mga 7K itong 2) 5) sukli pang PEGASUS (kasi konti nalang eh) hehehe..
That is my best estimate for the "PRESENTLY" available drum sets sa JB. AudioPhile madami ding TAMA.
Sa set na yan, you can play almost anything (metal, pop, rock, jazz, etc). Ang haba pa ng ROLLING mo (kasi 4 toms) at yan Splash K mo.. MA-AARAWS KA (hhehe).. Yung double-kick... well dagdag sa SKILL mo yan..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 04, 2008, 09:13:12 AM
Additional Info...
Pag maganda ang drum set mo.. 1) Gaganahan kang mag practice.. 2) Kapag pangit ang sound, alam mong ikaw ang sablay at hindi yung set! hehe :-D 3) Kahit dalhin mo sa gig, hindi ka mahihiya (kick @$$ tong set na to eh). 4) Your skill will develop faster, kasi walang problema yung set mo eh. Ikaw ang may sablay hehehe. 5) yung matirang pera, buy mo sa ACE Hardware ng mga rubber mat para pang mute. (300 lang to men) yung evans na mute kasi nasa 3K <<< Mahal :-o
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: black_panther on October 06, 2008, 09:28:14 AM
my best tip, well i would buy only from someone whom i know i can trust, knows what he is talking and most of all can supoport me with good after sales service..drums are wear and tear no matter what brand it is so availability of spare parts is a must.. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: or6 on October 08, 2008, 08:28:22 AM
hi. newbie lang..im enrolling for drums lessons class sa RJ Academy,
1. tama lang ba na saka ako bumili ng kit after ng lessons ko or should i get na while im on it? 2. hindi ko alam what set to buy, low budget lang din 15-20k. first drumset ko yun if ever. huli ako nakagamit ng drums dekada na, mga elementary pako and it wasnt something serious, tinry lang ako turuan ng kuya ko but hindi na natuloy. 3. may klase ba ng drums na better pang-babae? o pare-pareho lang naman?
i wanna learn formally for myself lang naman, hobby and enjoying time kahit magisa lang ako parang ganon, and ive always wanted to learn talaga and masabayan mga kantang gusto ko pagtagal. tnx.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 08, 2008, 08:48:29 AM
hi. newbie lang..im enrolling for drums lessons class sa RJ Academy,
1. tama lang ba na saka ako bumili ng kit after ng lessons ko or should i get na while im on it? 2. hindi ko alam what set to buy, low budget lang din 15-20k. first drumset ko yun if ever. huli ako nakagamit ng drums dekada na, mga elementary pako and it wasnt something serious, tinry lang ako turuan ng kuya ko but hindi na natuloy. 3. may klase ba ng drums na better pang-babae? o pare-pareho lang naman?
i wanna learn formally for myself lang naman, hobby and enjoying time kahit magisa lang ako parang ganon, and ive always wanted to learn talaga and masabayan mga kantang gusto ko pagtagal. tnx.
1) Better buy in-the-middle or after your lessons. Look for a set that you like and ask your teacher about it. 2) 15K to 20K budget... hmmm... hindi ba kaya 25K? sa 25K kasi ok na makukuha mong set. 3) Fusion set (or as I call it Wierd set) yung 10" 12" 14" toms. It's not so LOUD as the traditional set 12,13,16 toms. (Naka Fusion ako FYI) :-D
- Either get fusion and add a 16" Tom or traditional set and get 10" or ROTO TOMS hehehe. it works naman. pero I really suggest fusion set.
P.S. Hwag kang bibili ng DDRUMS.. or Kung gusto mo talaga ng DDRUMS.. Check mo yung mga HARDWARE or yung mga BAKAL.. Kasi madaling PUMUTOK or MAGCRACK yung mga yon at WALANG REPLACEMENT PARTS ANG MGA YUN. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: or6 on October 08, 2008, 09:12:58 AM
sir, mas maganda po kung mag sonor nalang po kayo. mas madali po kayung matututo kapag mas maganda ang mga gamit. i think sonor 505 ata yung 17k dun sa raon pero pwedeng pwede pa po tawaran. tapos yung sukli dagdagan niyo nalang po ng mga 2-3k may planet Z na po kayo. Decent na po pang practice. sulit pa po yung sonor kasi Remo na po lahat ng skins nun and yung mga hardware talagang durable. ayus din naman po yung fernando kaya lang 20k vs. 17k? wow.. i think mas maganda po ang sonor. opinion and advice lang po.. :-D
how about yung tinutukoy nya dito? ok ba to? and may nabasa din ako na TAMA brand for less than 20k? ok po ba yun? tnx!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: black_panther on October 08, 2008, 09:20:52 AM
hi. newbie lang..im enrolling for drums lessons class sa RJ Academy,
1. tama lang ba na saka ako bumili ng kit after ng lessons ko or should i get na while im on it?
its better to have your own kit already so you can practice at home what you are studying2. hindi ko alam what set to buy, low budget lang din 15-20k. first drumset ko yun if ever. huli ako nakagamit ng drums dekada na, mga elementary pako and it wasnt make it at least 25k, you can get a decent brand new brnaded drumset at that price range something serious, tinry lang ako turuan ng kuya ko but hindi na natuloy. 3. may klase ba ng drums na better pang-babae? o pare-pareho lang naman?
i dont think so, men and women drummers are created equal :wink:
i wanna learn formally for myself lang naman, hobby and enjoying time kahit magisa lang ako parang ganon, and ive always wanted to learn talaga and masabayan mga kantang gusto ko pagtagal. tnx.
then practice whatever is taught to you..practice is the key practice makes perfect
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 08, 2008, 09:56:37 AM
how about yung tinutukoy nya dito? ok ba to? and may nabasa din ako na TAMA brand for less than 20k? ok po ba yun? tnx!
1) Nope. Fusion ang tawag kasi sa set na may 10" 12" 14" toms. While Standard set naman ay 12' 13' 16'. <<< maingay to grabe! hehehe.. mas masaya ako sa Fusion.
TAMA for less than 20K is WOOOW!! hehehe...
mas ok kung maipost mo dito yung (somewhat) actual budget natin for the set. I bet bubuhos ang post at suggestions nila dito. :-D
OR
I can ESCORT you during canvassing your set :roll:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: or6 on October 08, 2008, 10:05:04 AM
ah. better nga siguro yung hindi grabe yung ingay. mga 15k to 20k sana. 2nd hand / bnew.. basta sakto lang for beginner and ayos yung quality.
And besides, we all experience the pains during our "NEWBIE" days right?!? Just don't want that to happen to our new "friend"! :roll:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: or6 on October 08, 2008, 10:32:09 AM
hindi. wala naman akong nahanap na TAMA below 20k. na-backread ko lang yun sir..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: barabbas on October 08, 2008, 10:35:46 AM
Mga kapatid i'd like to inform you that TAMA kit is not that expensive.... We have a starter kit.... Imperialstar set.... You can check out the price on store nationwide.... We used to have a 25k drumkit but that was already a discontinued model.... The Stagestar series... It's a very small kit.. Now we have the Imperialstar kit and comes with the complete set of stand.... If you have any inquiry just call me at 588-0919.... Thanks.....
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 08, 2008, 10:56:34 AM
hindi. wala naman akong nahanap na TAMA below 20k. na-backread ko lang yun sir..
oh I see. (na excite pa naman ako!) hehehe.
during your lesson/training. Mostlikely you'd be using the standard set (12" 13" 16" toms). From there, you can determine and have a 1st hand feel of what a standard set will be like.
Then when you're familiar with the standard set, try Fusion set (10" 12" 14" toms). then you can clearly decide which works better or feels and sounds better for you.
Big toms leads to loud sound, thus, heavy metal is good for standard sets. While Fusion toms are more pop, jazzy like feel. Hope this helps and good luck! wink
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: or6 on October 08, 2008, 12:10:40 PM
ok thanks. sana madami pako mabasang inputs. thanks again!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 08, 2008, 01:14:22 PM
ok thanks. sana madami pako mabasang inputs. thanks again!
My Newbie experience (hope you can get more info from this)
Idol ko si Lars Ulrich ng Metallica pero I started as a guitar player in music (actually Pioano kasi bata palang ako gi-ne-GAY ata ako ng nanay ko eh!) ehhehehe.
After reaching my peak sa guitar, I then moved to Drums and idolize Lars Ulrich.
So I went Window-shopping and found 8K crappy drum set. This is fine with me (at first) pero I find it "wasting" 8K kung yun ang bibilin ko. So I increase my budget and ended sa DDRUM na worth 26K.
The night nang unuwi ko yung set, syempre setup ko agad (excited kasi ako hehe). During setting up, naBASAG yung lock nung Floor TOM :| . So the following day, sinabi ko sa JB at papalitan daw nila. pero they also told me na "Sir next time dahan dahan lang po ang pag lock para di mabasag yung iba".
So binigyan nila ako ng replacement which is DIFFERENT COLOR and MADE :-o. So I find it "NOT ACCEPTABLE". After discussing it with JB people. I then decided to change to "Pearl Forum". naging 32K na hehehe.. Pero wala akong trouble sa hardware and it sounded better sa DDRUM.
Yung DDRUM ko is Standard Set while yung Pearl forum is Fusion Set. This is why I told you before, try mo muna yung 2 set and then decided. (which I decided to get Fusion set).
OK, now that I have my set, PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE hanggang naka buo na ako ng mga favorite songs ko. hehehe. At since nagimprove na yung drumming skills ko (thanks to YouTube and the movies I got from there). Gusto ko i-upgrade yung set ko.
So I got the following; 1) Gibraltar Double-pedal 2) HiHat Drop Clutch 3) Change my skins to REMO PINSTRIP and Emperor X for the snare. 4) Bought 12" K Splash, 14" & 18" China, 14" ZBT Crash and 16" A Custom medium crash. 5) Extra cymbal stands.
Moreover, when I bought the splash cymbal. 1st I bought the 10" A Custom splash. Kinabukasan sinoli at pinapalitan ko ng K 12"kasi hindi ko type yung tunog sa JB. Which the good people in JB accepted din. :-D
Now I am playing more complicated pieces like TOTO, old school heavy metal like Metallica Megadeth, etc.,
Now I am looking for a 16" Floor tom para mahaba haba ang rolling at mas heavy (kung kailangan) ang tom beats.
Moral of my story is..
1) Stay away from crappy items and always compare the prices with New and 2nd hand items. kasi kung konti lang ang difference eh sa New kana. May WARRANTY PA!
And in the first place, ask your self.. BAKIT BINEBENTA YUNG 2nd hand? A) maybe may mas maganda sa market? B) Maybe hindi nagustuhan nung unang mayari. C) Maybe may damage na. D) etc etc...
2) Buy using your ear or how you feel. Hwag yung sa TINGIN lang! Music is listening not looking right?! :-D
3) Go for GOOD or HIGH Quality items. kasi kung mag sawa ka or plano mo nang ibenta. MAGANDA ang RESALE value nya kesa sa mga crappy items.
Hope this helps and let me know kung kelan kita sasamahan ah! :roll: hehehe :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: or6 on October 09, 2008, 10:34:54 AM
My Newbie experience (hope you can get more info from this)
Idol ko si Lars Ulrich ng Metallica pero I started as a guitar player in music (actually Pioano kasi bata palang ako gi-ne-GAY ata ako ng nanay ko eh!) ehhehehe.
After reaching my peak sa guitar, I then moved to Drums and idolize Lars Ulrich.
So I went Window-shopping and found 8K crappy drum set. This is fine with me (at first) pero I find it "wasting" 8K kung yun ang bibilin ko. So I increase my budget and ended sa DDRUM na worth 26K.
The night nang unuwi ko yung set, syempre setup ko agad (excited kasi ako hehe). During setting up, naBASAG yung lock nung Floor TOM :| . So the following day, sinabi ko sa JB at papalitan daw nila. pero they also told me na "Sir next time dahan dahan lang po ang pag lock para di mabasag yung iba".
So binigyan nila ako ng replacement which is DIFFERENT COLOR and MADE :-o. So I find it "NOT ACCEPTABLE". After discussing it with JB people. I then decided to change to "Pearl Forum". naging 32K na hehehe.. Pero wala akong trouble sa hardware and it sounded better sa DDRUM.
Yung DDRUM ko is Standard Set while yung Pearl forum is Fusion Set. This is why I told you before, try mo muna yung 2 set and then decided. (which I decided to get Fusion set).
OK, now that I have my set, PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE hanggang naka buo na ako ng mga favorite songs ko. hehehe. At since nagimprove na yung drumming skills ko (thanks to YouTube and the movies I got from there). Gusto ko i-upgrade yung set ko.
So I got the following; 1) Gibraltar Double-pedal 2) HiHat Drop Clutch 3) Change my skins to REMO PINSTRIP and Emperor X for the snare. 4) Bought 12" K Splash, 14" & 18" China, 14" ZBT Crash and 16" A Custom medium crash. 5) Extra cymbal stands.
Moreover, when I bought the splash cymbal. 1st I bought the 10" A Custom splash. Kinabukasan sinoli at pinapalitan ko ng K 12"kasi hindi ko type yung tunog sa JB. Which the good people in JB accepted din. :-D
Now I am playing more complicated pieces like TOTO, old school heavy metal like Metallica Megadeth, etc.,
Now I am looking for a 16" Floor tom para mahaba haba ang rolling at mas heavy (kung kailangan) ang tom beats.
Moral of my story is..
1) Stay away from crappy items and always compare the prices with New and 2nd hand items. kasi kung konti lang ang difference eh sa New kana. May WARRANTY PA!
And in the first place, ask your self.. BAKIT BINEBENTA YUNG 2nd hand? A) maybe may mas maganda sa market? B) Maybe hindi nagustuhan nung unang mayari. C) Maybe may damage na. D) etc etc...
2) Buy using your ear or how you feel. Hwag yung sa TINGIN lang! Music is listening not looking right?! :-D
3) Go for GOOD or HIGH Quality items. kasi kung mag sawa ka or plano mo nang ibenta. MAGANDA ang RESALE value nya kesa sa mga crappy items.
Hope this helps and let me know kung kelan kita sasamahan ah! :roll: hehehe :-D
--->NOSEBLEED! :lol:
di ko naintindihan ibang specs/terms na sinabi mo, di bali malalaman ko lahat yan in time.
btw, guys ano ibig sabihin ng 5pcs with hardware? tnx
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sjon014 on October 09, 2008, 10:48:26 AM
Heheh, granted, medyo nosebleed nga siguro yung mga sinabi ni sir paeng, pero sort it out and read through it. It's good advice. :-D
Hardware refers to the mounting equipment and other stuff (i.e. malalaking piraso ng bakal) you need to put the drumkit together and start playing! (Except cymbals hahah)
A standard 5-pc drumset with hardware means: Five actual drums: -Snare drum -Three toms (commonly 12", 13", and 16" -or- 10", 12", and 14") -One bass drum
Hardware: -Snare stand -Bass Pedal -Tom holder/s -Hi-hat stand -Straight or boom cymbal stand/s
If you happen to see something labled as "5-piece shell pack" though, no hardware is included. Just the drums.
^_^
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: or6 on October 09, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
ah.. now i get it :-)
so wala pa pala ang cymbals kapag sinabing ganon. then ang basic na kasamang cymbals ay 3? tama ba? so kapag naghanap ako ng drumset ang hahanapin ko pala e 5pc with hardware and cymbals? anong term dun? standard starter kit? tnx
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 09, 2008, 02:19:57 PM
so wala pa pala ang cymbals kapag sinabing ganon. then ang basic na kasamang cymbals ay 3? tama ba? so kapag naghanap ako ng drumset ang hahanapin ko pala e 5pc with hardware and cymbals? anong term dun? standard starter kit? tnx
Sorry sa Nose bleed post ko! :lol:
Anyways, I went last night sa JB Mega and found they have Pearl Target Under 20K color maroonish. nice yun. (yan ah! kina-kanvas na kita! :-D)
If you happen to drop by sa JB Music Megamall, look for Nelson (the drum doctor) and tell him na "GF" kita! :-D or Good Friend :wink:
Don't worry, I will look sa AudioPhile Pioneer branch at sa Yamaha Megamall.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 09, 2008, 02:35:19 PM
To or6
Ang the best talaga is to bring along a drummer when shopping. (ehem! ehem!) :roll:
Like me, when I first bought my very first car. dala ko yung "mechanic at driver namin"....
"kilala lang" pala namin,
hindi mismong amin :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mondi99060451 on October 09, 2008, 06:19:41 PM
up natin to para sa mga newbs
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sjon014 on October 09, 2008, 09:22:09 PM
so wala pa pala ang cymbals kapag sinabing ganon. then ang basic na kasamang cymbals ay 3? tama ba? so kapag naghanap ako ng drumset ang hahanapin ko pala e 5pc with hardware and cymbals? anong term dun? standard starter kit? tnx
Well, usually wala talagang kasama - pero may stock brass (low-end) cymbals lang in the case of Pearl and Tama Imperialstars. But I've seen JB, Yupangco, and Forerunner package cymbal sets as a sort of "promo". See for yourself when you visit the stores. For example: (sa JB, in their big yellow info tags)
Gretsch Blackhawk 5-pc Set w/ hardware plus FREE ZBT Pro 4 4-pc cymbals.Reg price: 45,000 Sale price: 38,000 (sample lang yung prices)
Ayun, they "package" some of their drums with entry-level cymbal packs. By the way, these packs come in "three-piece" and "four-piece". Three-piece means you have Hi-Hats, and a Crash-Ride. Four-Piece means you have Hi-hats, a separate Crash, and a separate Ride.
If I were you though, I'd inquire about drumset prices without cymbal packs - so I can buy the cymbals separately. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jcberedo on October 09, 2008, 11:45:53 PM
Guys I need help here. I want to buy a drumset, cymbalset and accessories. I have a budget of 60k for all of them. I also want to include a splash, china, doublepeds and extra hardwares (for the splash and china). What brand can you guys recommend? My musical styles are rock and progressive rock. Please advise. Thanks! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: boypalo on October 09, 2008, 11:51:31 PM
tama drums and double peds. tapos cymbals depende sa taste mo pero personally gusto ko sabian. pero it's still up to you.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jcberedo on October 09, 2008, 11:55:36 PM
tama drums and double peds. tapos cymbals depende sa taste mo pero personally gusto ko sabian. pero it's still up to you.
Gusto ko rin TAMA. How much b ung cheapest line nila? Gusto ko rin Sabian pero dami na kasi gumagamit nun. Maiba nmn ok b ang Paiste? Where is the BEST place to buy all those stuffs for 60k?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: boypalo on October 10, 2008, 12:26:34 AM
eto para di ka mahirapan. basahin mo nalang mga reviews dito
eto pala halos parehas http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,41598.0.html
eto shopping thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,34526.0.html
eto reviews ng products ZILDJIAN http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,18828.0.html WUHAN http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,23592.0.html PAISTE http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,18397.0.html MEINL http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,19516.0.html STAGG http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,29016.0.html TAMA http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,24487.0.html MAPEX/BLACK PANTHER http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,24814.0.html PEARL http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,6997.0.html VATER http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,96019.0.html eto IRON COBRA THREAD http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,18426.0.html pati drumshoes meron :-D http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,33857.0.html
kung may naisip ka pa iba na tatak search mo nalang :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jcberedo on October 10, 2008, 06:23:12 AM
eto para di ka mahirapan. basahin mo nalang mga reviews dito
eto pala halos parehas http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,41598.0.html
eto shopping thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,34526.0.html
eto reviews ng products ZILDJIAN http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,18828.0.html WUHAN http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,23592.0.html PAISTE http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,18397.0.html MEINL http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,19516.0.html STAGG http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,29016.0.html TAMA http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,24487.0.html MAPEX/BLACK PANTHER http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,24814.0.html PEARL http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,6997.0.html VATER http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,96019.0.html eto IRON COBRA THREAD http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,18426.0.html pati drumshoes meron :-D http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,33857.0.html
kung may naisip ka pa iba na tatak search mo nalang :lol:
NICE!! Thanks man!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 10, 2008, 09:16:20 AM
Well, usually wala talagang kasama - pero may stock brass (low-end) cymbals lang in the case of Pearl and Tama Imperialstars. But I've seen JB, Yupangco, and Forerunner package cymbal sets as a sort of "promo". See for yourself when you visit the stores. For example: (sa JB, in their big yellow info tags)
Gretsch Blackhawk 5-pc Set w/ hardware plus FREE ZBT Pro 4 4-pc cymbals.Reg price: 45,000 Sale price: 38,000 (sample lang yung prices)
Ayun, they "package" some of their drums with entry-level cymbal packs. By the way, these packs come in "three-piece" and "four-piece". Three-piece means you have Hi-Hats, and a Crash-Ride. Four-Piece means you have Hi-hats, a separate Crash, and a separate Ride.
If I were you though, I'd inquire about drumset prices without cymbal packs - so I can buy the cymbals separately. :-D
or ask paengs assistance to escort you... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 10, 2008, 09:19:23 AM
// COPY-PASTE from the other thread // :wink:
sa 60K budget..
Pwede ka mag gretch, pearl, tama, Ludwig etc. Pero consider mo muna to.
1) Cymbals < mahal to at baka mawalan ka nang budget for this babies. 2) Skins or bater heads. (yung mga nasa new drums kasi 1 ply lang, pag narinig mo yung mga pinstipe ma papawow ka men.). 3) double-kick or twin-pedal. < mga 7k to 8K din to. iba na kasi yung may ABANG na double-kick sa single kick eh. Kasi less than a year (for newbies) magsasawa ka sa single kick at hahanap ka din ng double-kick. 4) THRONE - a good throne like gibralter cost about 3K. Men importante ito kahit sinong drummer will agree.
So given all those things and with 60K budget, i'd go for... 1) ludwig(birch) 8,12,13,16 toms with conversion kit this is under 40K sa JB with ZBT cymbals na to. 2) Buy double-kick na gibraltar (mga 7K to 8K). 3) Gibraltar throne (3K). 4) Zildian K 12" Splash + gibraltar boom (mga 7K itong 2) 5) sukli pang PEGASUS (kasi konti nalang eh) hehehe..
That is my best estimate for the "PRESENTLY" available drum sets sa JB. AudioPhile madami ding TAMA.
Sa set na yan, you can play almost anything (metal, pop, rock, jazz, etc). Ang haba pa ng ROLLING mo (kasi 4 toms) at yan Splash K mo.. MA-AARAWS KA (hhehe).. Yung double-kick... well dagdag sa SKILL mo yan..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: black_panther on October 10, 2008, 10:38:18 AM
hey man, just in case you are considering mapex drums/stagg cymbals then i can help you work out that 60k budget pare, just pm me and i will have our mapex team help you..cheers...let the black panther roar!!!!!!!!
www.mapexdrums.com
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: in_the_tent on October 10, 2008, 11:38:57 AM
stagg cymbals is the way to go bro.. :-) drums maraming maganda.:)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jcberedo on October 10, 2008, 12:37:47 PM
Eh guys how about gibraltar hardwares? Where can I find those doublepeds n cheap dw pero matibay. *No TXT spelling please. -Mod
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 10, 2008, 02:15:45 PM
Where yung JB? Sensya na ha medyo ignorant ako sa mga yan. Hehe. :-D
sa mga malls meron nyan. JB music and sports
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Cairo on October 11, 2008, 10:02:38 PM
Pano po ba nakapackage ang Tama drums pag binili ng brand new? Nag iisip po kasi ako kung anong sasakyan ang gagamitin ko.. Pick up ko lang po kasi sana.. TIA
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jcberedo on October 11, 2008, 11:05:10 PM
Pano po ba nakapackage ang Tama drums pag binili ng brand new? Nag iisip po kasi ako kung anong sasakyan ang gagamitin ko.. Pick up ko lang po kasi sana.. TIA
in boxes syempre per drum. dapat Van ang dala mong vehicle.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Cairo on October 11, 2008, 11:27:11 PM
ah ok.. thanks po! :-) Kasya po kaya sa FX? May 2 po akong companion..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sixars on October 11, 2008, 11:42:48 PM
good evening po sa mga members ask ko lang po kung ok yung x-trekII na drum set sa raon(9.5k), remo na daw po heads nya ewan ko lang po kung totoong remo yun? x-trek din kasi nakalagay sa heads nya tapos yung remo nasa ilallim lang. bago palang din kaya wala rin gaano alam pagdating sa mga teknikal na aspeto. tapos meron dito sa amin inaalok lazer naman (12k) may kasama ng ride yung planet Z pero yung hi hats at crash niya stock, pero remo na head nung snare nya. medyo naguguluhan po kasi ako eh, maraming salamat po mabuhay po kayo.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: boypalo on October 11, 2008, 11:58:57 PM
good evening po sa mga members ask ko lang po kung ok yung x-trekII na drum set sa raon(9.5k), remo na daw po heads nya ewan ko lang po kung totoong remo yun? x-trek din kasi nakalagay sa heads nya tapos yung remo nasa ilallim lang. bago palang din kaya wala rin gaano alam pagdating sa mga teknikal na aspeto. tapos meron dito sa amin inaalok lazer naman (12k) may kasama ng ride yung planet Z pero yung hi hats at crash niya stock, pero remo na head nung snare nya. medyo naguguluhan po kasi ako eh, maraming salamat po mabuhay po kayo.
siguro totoo naman na remo yun. may ganun din sa ibang heads diba? tama ba ko? sa pearl at mapex ata ganun din. yung tatak malaki tapos remo na maliit sa baba. correct me if i'm wrong
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sixars on October 12, 2008, 12:25:45 AM
salamat po, sa reply nyo, nag aalangan kasi ako, kung lazer na 2nd hand o yung X-trek II na brandnew. mallit lang din kasi buget ko 12k max na yun. napakalaking bagay nung mga nabasa kong thread dito. malaking tulong ito para sa mga baguhang tulad ko salamat po sa post nyo.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: boypalo on October 12, 2008, 12:36:23 AM
check out ddrums also. AFAIK affordable din yun. saka check mo din sa classifieds maraming sulit na gamit dun
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sjon014 on October 12, 2008, 12:53:36 AM
Agreed. X-trek, Lazer (lowends) and other China-made generics are almost identical. Standard rock sizes. Old-style tom mounting. Double-braced but light hardware. Same with old Fernandos, LA Drums, etc. I suggest you take a look at DDrums (be wary of hardware issues though) or the newer Fernandos.
If not, you could score a good kit if you're patient enough at the Classifieds. Damn, like richie's Tama Superstar shell pack for 15k, SOLD just mere hours after he posted it.@_@
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: boypalo on October 12, 2008, 12:57:26 AM
what about the hardwares ng ddrums bro? di ba pang gyera? hehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 13, 2008, 11:20:44 AM
ah ok.. thanks po! :-) Kasya po kaya sa FX? May 2 po akong companion..
Advice lang boss..
Ipa assemble mo na yung buong KIT before mo kalasin at ilagay sa FX. Atleast from the store palang makikita mo na kung may KULANG or DAMAGE..
AT..
LIBRE TONO pa! hehehe :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vmlinuZ on October 20, 2008, 01:09:44 PM
Mga boss, Ok ba yung Tama Imperialstar Mas ok ba siya kesa sa Sonor Force 2001 (hindi akin pero un lang madalas na nagagamit ko)
Thanks
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vmlinuZ on October 22, 2008, 11:17:43 AM
I went to JB yesterday, nalito lalo ako, I saw this Gretsch Catalina Ash 40k(original price 60k+ ata) with zbt na.. plus a free 8inch tom, Bundle daw talaga yung cymbals.. Meron pa isang option, Tama Superstar 4 piece 30k.. uggh nakakalito talaga, ano ba mas ok na deal dyan? O baka may maisusuggest kayo na ibang kit? 40k max budget
Thanks
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: plep on October 22, 2008, 12:20:54 PM
vmlinuz: mas maganda ang superstar sa gretsch... kaso kung best deal ang hanap mo, bilhin mo yung gretsch tapos ibenta mo yung zbt para pandagdag budget para sa magandang cymbals.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 22, 2008, 01:19:13 PM
I went to JB yesterday, nalito lalo ako, I saw this Gretsch Catalina Ash 40k(original price 60k+ ata) with zbt na.. plus a free 8inch tom, Bundle daw talaga yung cymbals.. Meron pa isang option, Tama Superstar 4 piece 30k.. uggh nakakalito talaga, ano ba mas ok na deal dyan? O baka may maisusuggest kayo na ibang kit? 40k max budget
Thanks
TOL
1) Yung Catalina ba ay 10" 12" 14" 16" tom? or 8" 10" 12" 14" tom? 2) Yung Superstar ba ay 12" 13" 16" tom? (Standard set). 3) Same wood ba yung Catalina at Superstar?? (maple, birch)?
Now let me share my experience (may mapupulot kang araw dito!) hehehe.
Set ko ay Pearl Forum (Fusion Kit = 10" 12" 14" toms). So after some time, I realize the STYLE OF PLAY na gusto ko. Somewhat JEFF PORCARO (TOTO) na LARS ULRICH(METALLICA).
Jeff Porcaro set is (10"12"13"14" toms) Lars Ulrich (Presently using 10" 12" 16" 16" toms.)
So, bumili ako ng 16" TOM na hindi kakulay nang set ko kasi wala talaga eh (Which is a really PAIN IN THE @$$ to find, Ganun din naman pag bibili ako ng 13" na TOM).
Anyways, now ang set ko at 10" 12" 14" 16" toms.
OR
CATALINA SET na! hehehe.. (dapat pala CATALINA SET NALANG BINILI KO FROM THE START!) :-D
Moral of the story is... 1) Mahirap mag hanap nang additional TOM. 2)Your should know your style of play. (heavy metal ba? Jazz? pop? Rock?) Standard set ay medyo MALAKAS ang tunog. So "MAS" maganda ang Fusion set or smaller toms sa mga pop, jazz etc.
In ending, kung yung Catalina set sa JB ay 8" 10" 12" 14". I'd go for the standard set ng TAMA. Kasi bumili ka lang ng roto-toms sa standard set ayus na eh. Pero kung 10" 12" 14" 16" yung catalina sa JB. Men by all means, ito na ang bilhin mo!
By the way, meron Ludwig na Birch wood na 40K din sa JB Music ah. Birch ito men at malayong mas maganda sa Maple. Check mo din ito men. Ayus ito.
Hope this helps.. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vmlinuZ on October 22, 2008, 02:37:02 PM
1. Yung Catalina Ash, 8" 10" 12" 14", (which is ok para maluwag sa kwarto ko hehe) 40k with cymbals 2. Yung Superstar, 12" 16" 30k 3. Catalina Ash - Ash, Superstar - Birch+Basswood (not sure)
Yung sa Superstar, bitin sakin kung 2 toms lang e. Yung Catalina Ash naman, 6 piece na agad may cymbals pa @40k. Anong model yung sa ludwig chief?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 22, 2008, 04:26:32 PM
P.S. Dapat binabayaran ako nang JB Music sa mga serbisyo ko eh! wahihihihi :-D
Nice set to Men, Ask mo nalang sila sa detalye..
Paeng
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vmlinuZ on October 22, 2008, 05:34:02 PM
Ayos, dadaan ako ulit jb megamall mamaya, langya araw araw nako halos dun kakatingin hahaha.. Tumawag ako sa audiophile.. 39,150 TAMA Superstar Fusion.. so lumalabas +9k para lang maging 5 piece hehe.. syet lalo ako nalilito.. Malaki ba talaga difference sa tunog yung Superstar and Catalina Ash?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 22, 2008, 05:42:14 PM
Ayos, dadaan ako ulit jb megamall mamaya, langya araw araw nako halos dun kakatingin hahaha.. Tumawag ako sa audiophile.. 39,150 TAMA Superstar Fusion.. so lumalabas +9k para lang maging 5 piece hehe.. syet lalo ako nalilito.. Malaki ba talaga difference sa tunog yung Superstar and Catalina Ash?
Regarding sa SOUND...
(Kwento ako ulit at share ko experience ko! hehehe)
Pearl Forum is Maple wood. While yung nabili kong additional 16" Floor tom ay WTF wood.
Pero...
Nung linagyan ko nang REMO PINSTRIPE yung 16" Floor tom.
NAHABOL YUNG SOUND at hindi obyus na WTF WOOD sha! hehehe.. :-D
Ito nga oh! sina-SOUND CHECK na nang baby ko! hehehe :-D (http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr196/paeng16/IMG_0225.jpg)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 22, 2008, 05:46:57 PM
Tol, bukas kanalang dumaan sa JB Megamall.. OFF ngayon ni NELSON the Drum Doctor.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vmlinuZ on October 22, 2008, 09:57:37 PM
Planet Z lang pala yung kasama langya. 45k pag zbt :(
Tapos nakita ko pa yung pearl vision 38k... hirap naman pumili =/
Mabilis ba mabenta yung Planet Z dito?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sjon014 on October 22, 2008, 10:01:36 PM
(Kwento ako ulit at share ko experience ko! hehehe)
Pearl Forum is Maple wood. While yung nabili kong additional 16" Floor tom ay WTF wood.
Pero...
Nung linagyan ko nang REMO PINSTRIPE yung 16" Floor tom.
NAHABOL YUNG SOUND at hindi obyus na WTF WOOD sha! hehehe.. :-D
Ito nga oh! sina-SOUND CHECK na nang baby ko! hehehe :-D (http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr196/paeng16/IMG_0225.jpg)
Pearl Forum Series Drums are made of 6 ply 7.5mm poplar shells. Even the discontinued and the most sold Pearl drum around the world, the Export series was made of poplar shells. The latest edition of the Pearl Forum Series, Forum FZ are still made of poplar shells. Recent upgrades with this kit are just the 'ISS' for both 12'' and 13'' toms which was acquired from the late export series, an additonal C70W cymbal stand for the additonal Pearl crash cymbal(previous forum series only has a boomstand B70W to hold a pearl crash/ride cymbal) and the drum pedal which was upgraded from P-120 to P-120P. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Akira JUMBO on October 23, 2008, 01:34:36 AM
For the record all Pearl Forum series are not made from maple wood, instead they are built with poplar. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 23, 2008, 08:24:08 AM
Thanks sa mga info about maple mga Bro!!!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on October 23, 2008, 08:52:30 AM
bro wag ka maturn off kasi hindi lang basta "poplar" yan. hindi lang naman yung kahoy ang bumubuo sa drum...
nung mangini clinic, magkatabi ang isang vision at reference tapos sabay ginamit. mas nakakaturn off yung reference kasi mas malayo yung price difference nya sa vision tapos halos walang difference sa tunog yung mga toms at bass. yes maganda yung snare nung reference pero makakabili ka ng 4 super duper high end snare at isang vision sa presyo ng reference tapos may pambili ka pa ng high end cymbals :-D
kung ang habol mo sa drums e yung tunog, entry level kits now are pretty much built the same way as high end drums. sa hardware na lang talaga nagkakatalo
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: plep on October 23, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
bro wag ka maturn off kasi hindi lang basta "poplar" yan. hindi lang naman yung kahoy ang bumubuo sa drum...
nung mangini clinic, magkatabi ang isang vision at reference tapos sabay ginamit. mas nakakaturn off yung reference kasi mas malayo yung price difference nya sa vision tapos halos walang difference sa tunog yung mga toms at bass. yes maganda yung snare nung reference pero makakabili ka ng 4 super duper high end snare at isang vision sa presyo ng reference tapos may pambili ka pa ng high end cymbals :-D
kung ang habol mo sa drums e yung tunog, entry level kits now are pretty much built the same way as high end drums. sa hardware na lang talaga nagkakatalo
tama ito. kung ako tanungin, mas magandang maginvest sa magandang cymbals, snare, hardware tsaka heads kesa sa high end kit. ang cymbals at snare kasi, rinig agad ang pagkaiba ng low end, midlevel, tsaka high end. eh sa drums naman, basta matino ang heads, tuning, tsaka bearing edge (let's go peeves!), maganda na rin ang tunog.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 23, 2008, 02:10:46 PM
@ pleps at Dr. Peeves
well noted and thanks sa replies.. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Akira JUMBO on October 24, 2008, 12:36:34 AM
If we had not told you about the wood composition would you still love your kit the same? :? If so forget that we even mentioned it. :-D
Do not under estimate Poplar wood as it produces great sound as well, I barely notice the difference between Maple and Poplar on some of my drums. I totally agree with what Peeves and Plep said, to invest in cymbals, good drum heads, and for me to add invest on lessons.. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: thunder_god on October 24, 2008, 01:25:24 AM
At dahil dyan, na Turn-Off ako sa set ko! :lol: :-D
(Ang pagkaalam ko kasi yung snare lang ang POPSMEAR wood. :-o)
Anyways, yung last post ko is the same.
Pearl popsmear wood :cry: + 16" WTF wood /Pinstripe = Same sound.
Hmmm.... that's kind a strange. All of a sudden he's selling his drum kit at the classified section. Is it because that he found out that a Pearl Forum kit was made of poplar shells? :?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 24, 2008, 08:44:15 AM
If we had not told you about the wood composition would you still love your kit the same? :? If so forget that we even mentioned it. :-D
Do not under estimate Poplar wood as it produces great sound as well, I barely notice the difference between Maple and Poplar on some of my drums. I totally agree with what Peeves and Plep said, to invest in cymbals, good drum heads, and for me to add invest on lessons.. :wink:
Thanks for the info Akira, this is one of the reasons why I love the forums. I get information with no discrimination! :-D
I've seen the Pearl Reference and Vision last night and as said by you, pleps and Dr. Peeves. I can't tell the difference of a maple shell and poplar. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 24, 2008, 08:52:01 AM
Actually I am selling my set not "mainly" because of the its poplar shell (since I can't tell the sound difference of a poplar and maple, and the people I trust here on the boards enlightened me about it.).
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vmlinuZ on October 24, 2008, 11:13:03 PM
I went for the catalina ash :) swabe staff ng JB megamall, maasikaso.. galing pa mag-tono ni Nelson.. idol hehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 27, 2008, 05:59:45 PM
I went for the catalina ash :) swabe staff ng JB megamall, maasikaso.. galing pa mag-tono ni Nelson.. idol hehe
Sabi ko naman sayo eh!! Si Doc. Nelson the Drum doctor! hhehe :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: applebottomjeans on October 28, 2008, 09:42:25 AM
magresearch muna, magtanong, magisip bago bumili. :-)
OT: nung binili ko yung beginner kit ko, depressed ako, wala ako sa sarili, may nagsabi sakin, "do what you really want". Naisip ko, highschool pa lang gusto ko na matutong magdrums. Kaya ayun, punta ako sa shop, nakakakita ng kit, straight away binili ko, ni hindi ko tinignan mabuti.
ngayon gustong gusto ko ng idispose at bumili ng bago :lol:
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: paeng16 on October 28, 2008, 04:55:29 PM
magresearch muna, magtanong, magisip bago bumili. :-)
OT: nung binili ko yung beginner kit ko, depressed ako, wala ako sa sarili, may nagsabi sakin, "do what you really want". Naisip ko, highschool pa lang gusto ko na matutong magdrums. Kaya ayun, punta ako sa shop, nakakakita ng kit, straight away binili ko, ni hindi ko tinignan mabuti.
ngayon gustong gusto ko ng idispose at bumili ng bago :lol:
^ ^ Hwag bibili nang Kit kapag DEPRESSED! :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: applebottomjeans on November 01, 2008, 06:37:01 PM
hihi :-D thanks sir paeng, for emphasizing the most important bit of my post. :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: drumchile on November 02, 2008, 06:47:55 AM
If you are a beginner, first of all be sure you are serious about the commitment in learning. WIll you stick with it? 2nd of all buy drums that are functional. Look at the hardware. The metal pieces on the drums basically. If its a used kit does it look rusted out? Are there pieces missing? Does it look like cheap plastic painted with silver paint for the lugs? You'd be suprised what garbage is out there and who would love to sell it to you. Drum shells? Best thing to realize is that drum stores will try and tell you shells are evetything when it comes to you sounding good. Not true. It's all in buying decent drum heads, learning how to tune without pillows tape and all the other garbage. Most importantly if you learn how to play and hit the drums right then whether you have birch, maple or fiberglass shells you will have YOUR sound. SO buy drums with decent strong durable hardware. Cymbals are just something you develope taste for over time. FUnctionality and durability of hardware is the key.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: drumchile on November 02, 2008, 08:22:04 AM
Basically buy whatever cheap brand you can find with strong hardware that doesnt look too cheap. If you buy something really bad and it will rust or break. Even just a cheap pearl export or fernando kit. Dont but expensive cymbals. Cymbals preference will increase as experience comes. Later he or she can buy the cymbals he really prefers. Decent heads and proper tuning without tape and pillows etc will determine how the kit sounds. Also technique development. How he or she hits the drums in context to tuning etc. I wouldnt go too deep into the shell talk. Yes maple kind of sounds different than birch and etc etc, but tuning, head choice and playing have most to do with having a good sound. Developing an original sound. If the student learns that concept from the start from a real teacher, then he is good to go. Just my opinon.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: drummer_boy17 on November 02, 2008, 11:19:19 AM
para sakin basta kaya ng budget at good condition yun drum set.. hindi mo naman kelangan ng mamahalin... important is magamit mo siya ng maayos ^__^
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: toybitz on November 04, 2008, 03:26:26 AM
do they really need it? does it have that sound they're looking for?
unless its just plain collection..discard both questions. 8 )
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: bugoy on November 04, 2008, 05:56:58 PM
di yata praktikal topagbasihan kasi kung yung price lang diyan pagbabasihan w/ out the importing fees, luge mga seller.. mahal yata i import or i ship ang drum items dito lalo na cymbals ang bigat bigat talo sa UPS or FEDEX hehe i remember nung bumili ako nung isang set ng B8 cymbal (14" hats, 16" crash, 20" ride) set w/ free 18" crash and cymbal bag just for 215$. i bought it dahil sobrang nice deal then nung ipinapa ship ko na papunta dito sa pinas from my cousin sa california nasa 210-230$ ang shipping using UPS or FEDEX nyahahaha naghinaty na lang tuloy ako ng mag ha hand carry
alala ko pa nung bumili ako ng yamaha 12x5 na wood snare worth $180 sa musiciansfriend since di sila nag shi ship dito pinadala ko rin sa pinsan ko from calif. using johnny air. i remember 2800-3000 pesos ang binayaran ko sa johhny air megamall branch para i release yung item ko
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mimboo on November 06, 2008, 04:15:56 PM
Ok ba bumili ng E-Drums? Mahirap na kasi magkaroon ng acoustic, although may mga mas mura kesa sa e-drums, maingay eh, di pede sa bahay. Unlike E-Drums pede kahit headset lang.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: jett on November 06, 2008, 06:15:29 PM
Ok ba bumili ng E-Drums? Mahirap na kasi magkaroon ng acoustic, although may mga mas mura kesa sa e-drums, maingay eh, di pede sa bahay. Unlike E-Drums pede kahit headset lang.
oo nga. nagiisip din ako na bumili ng e-drums - yung Roland HD-1. Mas mahal compared to the normal acoustic ones but pwede nga naka headphones lang. Ok kaya 'to for newbies?
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: dZaykee on November 09, 2008, 07:53:23 PM
:? newbie lang poh... nid some expert opinion kasi im planning to buy a drum set. fernando un tatk. 12k, made in china... complete accesories. ok poh b un???
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mimboo on November 09, 2008, 09:14:21 PM
:? newbie lang poh... nid some expert opinion kasi im planning to buy a drum set. fernando un tatk. 12k, made in china... complete accesories. ok poh b un???
Im not a professional, but tingin ko if starting kit lang ang hanap mo mura na yung 12k, pero smartest move pasama ka sa professional before buying the kit, pa test mo sa kanya para malaman mo kung ok pa ung set.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: Akira JUMBO on November 09, 2008, 09:49:29 PM
Ok ba bumili ng E-Drums? Mahirap na kasi magkaroon ng acoustic, although may mga mas mura kesa sa e-drums, maingay eh, di pede sa bahay. Unlike E-Drums pede kahit headset lang.
:? newbie lang poh... nid some expert opinion kasi im planning to buy a drum set. fernando un tatk. 12k, made in china... complete accesories. ok poh b un???
@mimboo and dZaykee
Please stick to topic. Resources for your inquiries have already been discussed previously and searching them using the SEARCH function on the right side of your screen will greatly help you.
Do read the rules and regulations to be aware of our guidelines.
Thank you.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: Angst_Ridden on November 10, 2008, 04:21:02 AM
Tip ko lang is to do extensive research talga. Take advantage of the internet. Then talk to friends or people who have 1st hand experience with the item that you are interested in. If kaya nyo, see it in person, try i out. Read reviews din and lastly, observe it's price. :-)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: dZaykee on November 10, 2008, 10:07:51 AM
thanks po sa info... im doing extensive research nga po. i just wanna make sure na ok talaga. para sulit. :|
sencia poh, newbie lang... forgot to read un rules & regulations, my mistake... :oops:
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: john_jason on November 11, 2008, 09:00:38 PM
Uhm... Check niyo yung original price then tignan ninyo yung condition nung item na binebenta. Check niyo yung buong item talaga as in buo, para wala kayong masabing reklamo sa nagbebenta... :-)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mambo on November 12, 2008, 10:31:35 PM
have a set of choices tapos elimination technique nalang.hehe
kapag noob tpos sigurado ka naman na seseryosohin mo, go for the good quality(base sa mga reviews, feedbacks, at sa mga pinagtanungan mo), magtatagal kasi yon. at minsan kasi un brand name na yung binabayaran mo not the quality. meron kayong mahahanap na items or kits na hindi kasing sikat ng ano pero maganda talaga yung quality. tapos dapat may idea ka na kun anong type of drummer ka na, kung jazz, rock etc. para yung bibilin mong item or kit e swak na agad sa taste mo at mas masarap mag enjoy.
lastly huwag mag madali. magtanong muna ng magtanong ng magtanong hangang makapag decide ka na.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: dZaykee on November 18, 2008, 08:37:31 PM
beginner lang poh talaga... guitar player poh talaga ko and trying to learn new things, like playing dums. wanna be versatile so sa ngun im shifting to playing drums....
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mr. trigger on November 20, 2008, 04:43:16 PM
when buying a drum item. you should use your EARS not your EYES.. :wink:
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: briant on December 05, 2008, 06:17:35 AM
when buying a drum item. you should use your EARS not your EYES.. :wink:
i agree!.. hehehe.. :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: CDodrummer on February 07, 2009, 01:13:59 AM
a dark crash means it has shorted decay and dry sound character NOT dark for dark metal or dark music!
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mondi99060451 on February 10, 2009, 12:56:52 PM
ask for sound clips!
dito may sound clips... (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j183/mondes23/GreenRogersSmall.jpg) (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,111812.0.html)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: kimpoy19 on February 10, 2009, 09:56:43 PM
guys, bilang isang kabataan, nais ko sanag bumuo ng isang set ng drums, kaso by pieces yung bili ko dahil wala akong big money para bumili ng set..
mas focus ko po yung bass drum/kick, gusto ko po sanang makakuha ng good quality and affordable, ano po yung mga kailangan kong tignan in terms of mga wood used?
thanks a lot guys..
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: metalmuhlisha on February 11, 2009, 12:24:47 AM
guys, bilang isang kabataan, nais ko sanag bumuo ng isang set ng drums, kaso by pieces yung bili ko dahil wala akong big money para bumili ng set..
mas focus ko po yung bass drum/kick, gusto ko po sanang makakuha ng good quality and affordable, ano po yung mga kailangan kong tignan in terms of mga wood used?
thanks a lot guys..
bat di mo nalang ipunin yung perang yan para makaipon para makabili ka ng kit? may bangko naman e kung takot ka magastos yung pera mo.
at siguro, lalo na kung high school ka palang, pag nakita yan ng mga nag-aalaga sayo, matutuwa yung mga yun pag nakita nilang gusto mo talaga ng kit at masinop ka sa pera. malamang wala ka pa sa kalahati ng pinag-iipunan mo, nabilhan ka na nila ng kit. hehe.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mondi99060451 on February 11, 2009, 11:24:52 AM
tama si metalmuhlisha kimpoy, mas makakatipid ka kung set na bagsak presyo kukunin mo imbis na paisa isa ang kuha mo. :-) Tutal magkalapit lang tayo ng bahay, pag decided na ko ibenta kit ko, PM kita agad. :-)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: metalmuhlisha on February 11, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
tama si metalmuhlisha kimpoy, mas makakatipid ka kung set na bagsak presyo kukunin mo imbis na paisa isa ang kuha mo. :-) Tutal magkalapit lang tayo ng bahay, pag decided na ko ibenta kit ko, PM kita agad. :-)
in an unrelated note, mondi, na-inspire ako dun sa isang post mo, yung sinabi mong ok ka na sa crappy drumkit mo. ako din nawala yung hilig ko na magkaron ng magandang mid-range drumkit. haha. ok na ko dito sa kit ko ngayon, dito rin ako natuto e. maganda rin naman yung heads saka tuning kaya pwede narin. :)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: jigs_theman on March 03, 2009, 09:36:21 PM
advice naman po in buying cymbals
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: mondi99060451 on March 04, 2009, 08:16:21 AM
in an unrelated note, mondi, na-inspire ako dun sa isang post mo, yung sinabi mong ok ka na sa crappy drumkit mo. ako din nawala yung hilig ko na magkaron ng magandang mid-range drumkit. haha. ok na ko dito sa kit ko ngayon, dito rin ako natuto e. maganda rin naman yung heads saka tuning kaya pwede narin. :)
oo men, nasa magtotono na yan... basswood kasi pasado naman na sa kick at toms eh... snares lang talaga nagdedemand ng magandang shell. :-)
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: dekturrr on March 05, 2009, 11:04:38 AM
Ewan ko kung nakikita ninyong importante to.
Before you buy drums, make sure may paglalagyan na sha, sa place ng bahay niyo na pwede kang pumalo ng pumalo ng walang magagalit na kapitbahay. or sa studio, or sa lugar na mejo soundproof.
as for my experience, meron na akong at least two people na kilala ko na bumili ng drums only to sell it kase hindi nila magamit dahil pigil na pigil ang pagpalo nila kase nagagalit ang kapitbahay.
one of the reasons why hindi pa ako bumibili ng drums kase wala pa akong studio. pero magkakaroon na ako someday. mejo iniisip ko pa kung paparentahan ko or personal studio lang.
cheers
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: in_the_tent on March 05, 2009, 11:11:04 AM
when buying a drum item. you should use your EARS not your EYES.. :wink:
kaso pag nakasulat no tapping pls. eyes na lang. lol
Title: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: Mr.calalo on March 25, 2009, 03:42:34 PM
Mga sir, first time ko po bumili ng cymbals ngayon.. ano kaya ang pwede kong bilhin sa 8k na budget? Pinagpipilian ko po itong mga option na toh:
1) bibili ako ng 1 set ng planet z pro at isang 12"REGULAR SPLASH MEDIUM at 10" DH MINI CHINA stagg cymbals...
2) bibili ako ng sabian solar na set pero walang pang-effects
mga kuya's malaking tulong po sa akin yung suggestions nyo..
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: Gep on March 25, 2009, 03:49:31 PM
Kailangan mo na ba talaga bumili ngayon? Wala akong marerekomenda sa mga options mo dahil hindi sila maganda sound-wise.
Ipon ka pa ng konti (around P7,000) at may Istanbul Mehmet cymbal pack ka na.
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: Mr.calalo on March 25, 2009, 04:09:54 PM
pano kaya kung isa-isahin ko muna? bili muna ako ng stagg sh na hats at crash ride?
nabasa ko kasi sa forums na ok din daw yung stagg.. bata pa kasi ako,. hehe mahirap ang income.. ipon lang galing sa allowance tapos taga cagayan valley pa ako..
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: Gep on March 25, 2009, 04:13:17 PM
pano kaya kung isa-isahin ko muna? bili muna ako ng stagg sh na hats at crash ride?
nabasa ko kasi sa forums na ok din daw yung stagg.. bata pa kasi ako,. hehe mahirap ang income.. ipon lang galing sa allowance tapos taga cagayan valley pa ako..
Pwede rin naman yung paisa-isa lang. Yup, oks din ang Stagg, kaso ang problema eh hindi consistent ang sound ng cymbals. May maganda at may sobrang pangit ang tunog. Mabuti na lang at hinahayaan ng staff ng store nila na subukan ang bawat cymbal. At makakapili ka ng gusto mong tunog.
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: Mr.calalo on March 25, 2009, 04:17:14 PM
sir, kung bibili ako, ano yung magandang bilhin ko sa stag na sh series lang?
sir, question ulit.. hehe.. binebenta ng pinsan ko yung sabian b8 20" ride nya for 3k.. mahal ba yun o tama lang sa presyo? burado na yung print sa taas..
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: Gep on March 25, 2009, 04:29:40 PM
sir, kung bibili ako, ano yung magandang bilhin ko sa stag na sh series lang?
sir, question ulit.. hehe.. binebenta ng pinsan ko yung sabian b8 20" ride nya for 3k.. mahal ba yun o tama lang sa presyo? burado na yung print sa taas..
Wala ako alam about Stagg SH e.
Ok naman yung price ng ride na benta ng pinsan mo, pero mas ok kung matatawaran mo pa. :-)
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: BAMF on March 25, 2009, 04:40:37 PM
sir, kung bibili ako, ano yung magandang bilhin ko sa stag na sh series lang?
sir, question ulit.. hehe.. binebenta ng pinsan ko yung sabian b8 20" ride nya for 3k.. mahal ba yun o tama lang sa presyo? burado na yung print sa taas..
sa opinion ko sir, ok yung splashes nung sh at thin crash nila, ung 16" at 17". nakatry na rin ako nung hihat nila. ayos rin. comparable sya i think sa zht at xs20. hindi ko pa nattry yung ride nung sh eh. basta try mo muna bago mo kunin kasi minsan meron talaga na hindi ganun kaganda tumunog sa stagg. ok rin ung price nung b8 ride pero gaya ng sbi ni sir gep, try mo pa tawaran, tutal pinsan mo nman. :-D Tsaka check mo rin kung walang dents or cracks.
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: BAMF on March 26, 2009, 10:15:51 AM
I mean +7,000 na lang kailangan niya, kasi may P8,000 na siya e.
/me puts ATM back into wallet
Ahehehe. Di bale okay pa din yun. Para ka lang nag low-end na Zildjian...ano ba yun ZBT or Planet Z na winarningan ako ng drummer namin na wag ako magkakamali bumili ?
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: andreiandrei on March 26, 2009, 07:10:43 PM
Ahehehe. Di bale okay pa din yun. Para ka lang nag low-end na Zildjian...ano ba yun ZBT or Planet Z na winarningan ako ng drummer namin na wag ako magkakamali bumili ?
hahaha.. akala niyo 7k talaga yung set no.. kahit sino mapapabunot sa mura pero napakagandang tumunog na pies! :-D
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: mondi99060451 on March 26, 2009, 07:55:18 PM
Stagg=Mehmets pag dating sa inconsistency. Lalo na yung sa Lazer. :lol:
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: Mr.calalo on March 26, 2009, 09:37:51 PM
thanks sa tips mga sir.. di pa rin ako mapakali kasi once a year lang ako pumupunta ng manila.. sana makabili ako ng madami.. hehe
Title: Re: Sir need suggestions about buying cymbals
Post by: BAMF on March 26, 2009, 10:26:02 PM
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: cheezemonster08 on May 09, 2009, 11:16:41 PM
saken pag nag iipon ako,tinatapat ko na yung item na gusto ko mabibili ko nang sale yung store :-D para makakatipid ako at yung matitira ise-save ko ulit para sa ibang items.
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: kimpoy19 on May 10, 2009, 02:46:31 PM
modi and metalmuhlisha, thanks for that words. Pero mukhang matagal pa talaga ako makaka bili ng drums. Siguro pag natauhan na yung tita ko sa US. hehe. Yung mga pinsan ko kasi may drums na sa bahay nila pero hindi nila alam gamitin tapos akong marunong, ako pa yung nawalan. haha. :-D
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: digidikdik on May 11, 2009, 09:21:40 PM
Check your pocket first...ehehehehe
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: inigo on May 11, 2009, 10:53:43 PM
Ahhh men.. mukhang malabo yung wuhan... kasi TRASHY ang dating nun eh!!! wahihihiihi...
yap pra sa church po, yung cymbals nya paiste 101 na hihat and ride, and zbt crash18 saka zht na fast crash na 1... ano po kaya yun pinaka murang splash na pwede na? kung baga sa china wuhan...
yap pra sa church po, yung cymbals nya paiste 101 na hihat and ride, and zbt crash18 saka zht na fast crash na 1... ano po kaya yun pinaka murang splash na pwede na? kung baga sa china wuhan...
yup bago po...
Stagg would be a good option, less than 2k bnew na. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on September 28, 2009, 12:34:17 PM
thanks sir kino...
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: unnailed on October 12, 2009, 11:07:37 AM
mas ok mag save sa items na medyo mahal basta tatagal, kaysa sa mura na sandali lang...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 12, 2009, 11:46:42 AM
san po pa yung pier?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: dekturrr on October 12, 2009, 04:58:47 PM
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 12, 2009, 05:24:27 PM
sir san meron nung 22k n sonor plus cymbals?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: JDennis on October 12, 2009, 11:05:40 PM
@paeng16:
A little of topic. I just can't help but react on this after reading the entire thread.
No offense meant bro but it seems that you are confusing newbies here rather than helping. I understand you only meant to help and that is appreciated but it seems that you yourself is a little misinformed about your own kit. You admitted that you can hardly tell the difference between a Poplar shell and an Ash while owning a Pearl Forum and thinking all the time that it was made out of Maple? Then you also gave an advice to one to pick Ash over a Maple shell because it sound better? Hmmm...quite confusing views there my friend. :? I owned a Pearl Forum myself (FZ Series) and I am familiar with it from the shell material to the hardware just because I did my research before buying it. After playing with it for a week, I realized the snare had a problem and can't be tuned no matter what I do. It turned out the bearing edge has problems. I decided to return it and upgraded to a Gretsch Catalina Maple. I paid a lot more but it was well worth it. Maple shells are normally more expensive than Ash. Does it sound better? Well, as anyone would say, it all depends on your taste but if you will base it on the price category, Maple is of higher value. My point is, let us not try to influence others of what they should and shouldn't buy. What sounds good for us may sound like crap to others. Like any art form, music/sound is very subjective. What we should try here is just point them to the right direction on where and what is available to them at all price range. I know some here get too carried away with their kits to a point of sounding like fan boys and I don't blame them, besides, we all should be proud of our priced possessions. But we also should be very responsible and avoid recklessness when giving advice specially to the ones new to the world of drumming as it might confuse them more.
Now back to regular programming.
Cheers.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 12, 2009, 11:31:46 PM
mga sir tanong ko lng po ano yung mag kakasunod sa zildjian cymbals... yung lower sa pinaka maganda... thanks...
PLANET Z ZBT ZBTplus ZXT ZHT Pitch black fx ZCustom KCustom k ACustom Avedis
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 12, 2009, 11:34:10 PM
mga sir tanong ko lng po ano yung mag kakasunod sa zildjian cymbals... yung lower sa pinaka maganda... thanks...
PLANET Z ZBT ZBTplus ZXT ZHT Pitch black fx ZCustom KCustom k ACustom Avedis
Sheet bronze cymbal lines[/b] Planet Z ZBT ZBT plus - discontinued na ZXT ZHT Pitch black - discontinued na Cast bronze cymbal lines FX Z3 Avedis Zildjian Armand Zildjian A Custom K Zildjian K Custom
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 12, 2009, 11:53:00 PM
yun thanks sir kino... nakalimutan ko yng z3 and yng Armand Zildjian na siganature hehehe...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 12, 2009, 11:54:36 PM
2007 ni-release, it's under avedis zildjian lines.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 12, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
ano po yun? bakit hindi na sila nag proprodus nga pitch black? e diba yun yong gamit ni travis ngayon? yung zbtplus matagal ng wala, pinadami na lang nila yung zbt...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: drumachine on October 13, 2009, 12:02:40 AM
hindi bumenta ang pitch black, because of its chippy balck coating + not that good sonic abilities. yung kay travis, endorser kasi sya. for show lang yun siguro.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 13, 2009, 12:04:46 AM
ano po yun? bakit hindi na sila nag proprodus nga pitch black? e diba yun yong gamit ni travis ngayon? yung zbtplus matagal ng wala, pinadami na lang nila yung zbt...
Yung Armand line halos pareho lang din ng Avedis Zildjian, main difference is yun tunog. Habol kasi nila ung classic 60's sound. :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: drumachine on October 13, 2009, 12:05:26 AM
Sheet bronze cymbal lines[/b] Planet Z ZBT ZBT plus - discontinued na ZXT ZHT Pitch black - discontinued na Cast bronze cymbal lines FX Z3 Avedis Zildjian Armand Zildjian A Custom K Zildjian K Custom
+ z customs - discontinued n din ata.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 13, 2009, 12:07:36 AM
yung Zcustom pala?
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Post by: kino on October 13, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
Z customs was replaced by the Z3, so they are in the same league. Di ko lang alam if there was an improvement.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: drumachine on October 13, 2009, 12:08:45 AM
hehe. uu nga sir. di ko napansin. edited na po post ko.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 13, 2009, 12:10:43 AM
hindi huh kasi pinag iisipan ko kung bibili ako nag sabian b8, stagg sh or zbt... :-D
tanong ko na din yun sa sabian and yung sa stagg... :lol:
marami rami yun bro ah. anyway, kung yung b8, sh or zbt ang choice mung bilin, stick na muna tayo dun. hehe. para sakin, b8 ang pipiliin ko. durable and maganda na ang sound quality for an entry level cymbal. hehe. ok din ang stagg sh kung sound quality ang habol mu. mejo trashy at manipis nga lang sya so in doubt ako sa quality but casted na sya. that's just my opinion. tsaka it also depends the style and taste mu bro..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 13, 2009, 12:41:46 AM
marami rami yun bro ah. anyway, kung yung b8, sh or zbt ang choice mung bilin, stick na muna tayo dun. hehe. para sakin, b8 ang pipiliin ko. durable and maganda na ang sound quality for an entry level cymbal. hehe. ok din ang stagg sh kung sound quality ang habol mu. mejo trashy at manipis nga lang sya so in doubt ako sa quality but casted na sya. that's just my opinion. tsaka it also depends the style and taste mu bro..
yung nga bro e... stagg nga yung 1st choice ko dati pero ngayon b8 na...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 13, 2009, 12:44:51 AM
marami rami yun bro ah. anyway, kung yung b8, sh or zbt ang choice mung bilin, stick na muna tayo dun. hehe. para sakin, b8 ang pipiliin ko. durable and maganda na ang sound quality for an entry level cymbal. hehe. ok din ang stagg sh kung sound quality ang habol mu. mejo trashy at manipis nga lang sya so in doubt ako sa quality but casted na sya. that's just my opinion. tsaka it also depends the style and taste mu bro..
try mo muna both bro, magastos din kasi pag bili ka dahil sa reviews and suggestions then hindi mo pala type in the end. :-)
if ok ka na sa Sabian B8, may sale ang yupangco na din ngayong october. :-)
yun nga po... b8 yung may free na 18... 13,990 ata yun or 13,999 basta yun almost 14k na pero sulit 5pis n sya... wala nga lang cymbal bag... :-D meron na ba dito ng gator na cymbal bag na soft case?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: drumachine on October 13, 2009, 12:52:35 AM
merun na ata. nafi-feel ko bro, GAS na GAS ka. haha :-D wag papadala.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 13, 2009, 12:56:30 AM
merun na ata. nafi-feel ko bro, GAS na GAS ka. haha :-D wag papadala.
uu bro... i have the money, pero sure na ako sa b8(parang) bibili kasi ako ng drumset and cymbals na bago... san po ba makakabili ng drum set na mura pero hindi local?
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Post by: drumachine on October 13, 2009, 12:59:58 AM
sa classifieds section. hehe. for sure. magkanu ba budget mo?
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Post by: kino on October 13, 2009, 01:09:54 AM
yap bro... 14 pa baba yung budget kp pra sa drum and cymbals bali 28k lang... wala pa kasi ako work e... :-D
ah ok... sayang, may offer yupangco before... 29k yamaha gig maker with sabian b8 cymbal set...add ka na lang 1k. :-)
Well you can try to PM bluesdriver03 kung anong offer mabibigay niya sayo. Try mo rin JB baka nga meron silang Fernando with ZBT na promo. Just make sure at least get a drum kit with a decent hardware! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 13, 2009, 01:38:41 AM
yun nga e sayang my nakita ako sa raon mura lang kaso yun na bili na agad... :-( kaya wait lang me baka may dumating na blessing... :lol:
anu bang hanap mo sa kit kung sakali? what type of genre are you playing? kung 14k pababa ang budget mu for drums? mas maganda siguro kung bili ka ng lowend na drums(just make sure na ok ang hardware. <lugs, hoops,etc>) then upgrade the heads, buy decent hardwares like pearl or gibraltar. wala naman kasi sa brand yun eh. kahit USA pa yan or china, (AFAIK there's no locally made drums yet). The biggest factor eh yung magpapatunog. and yung kaya niyang gawin para mapaganda ang tunog:-D edited: hindi din big deal if you bought your drums brand new or second hand. as long as it is in good condition. and sanay ka mag alaga sa tambol mu.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 13, 2009, 09:34:21 AM
anu bang hanap mo sa kit kung sakali? what type of genre are you playing? kung 14k pababa ang budget mu for drums? mas maganda siguro kung bili ka ng lowend na drums(just make sure na ok ang hardware. <lugs, hoops,etc>) then upgrade the heads, buy decent hardwares like pearl or gibraltar. wala naman kasi sa brand yun eh. kahit USA pa yan or china, (AFAIK there's no locally made drums yet). The biggest factor eh yung magpapatunog. and yung kaya niyang gawin para mapaganda ang tunog:-D edited: hindi din big deal if you bought your drums brand new or second hand. as long as it is in good condition. and sanay ka mag alaga sa tambol mu.
gusto ka sana bnew new para pang matagalan na, yung ddrums sana sa raon kaso nabili na eh... antay na lang ako bagong stock nila na mura... palitan ko na lang mga lugs nun pag naka bili ako...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 13, 2009, 01:30:00 PM
gusto ka sana bnew new para pang matagalan na, yung ddrums sana sa raon kaso nabili na eh... antay na lang ako bagong stock nila na mura... palitan ko na lang mga lugs nun pag naka bili ako...
bibili ka ng brand new then papalitan mo rin ung lugs? :?
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Post by: drumachine on October 13, 2009, 09:14:11 PM
bibili ka ng brand new then papalitan mo rin ung lugs? :?
uu nga. :? unnailed. di ko maisusuggest ang ddrums unless looks lang talaga ang habol mo at brand conscious ka. :? kaso di pa din talaga eh. same wood lang yung mga nakikita mong ddrums sa fernando/generic lowends. pinagkaiba lang ata yung mounting system niya. yung lugs eh same din sa generic. kung bibili ka ng "brand new" na ddrums, at magpapalit ka ng lugs, isipin mu yung magagastos sa lugs na sana maipangbibili mu na lang ng ibang gears.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 13, 2009, 11:02:21 PM
hindi pag na sira chaka ako bibili ng bago... pero hindi pa po sure yon mga bro... kasi na bili na din yung ddrums sa raon eh... kaya ngayon wala pa... hay ano kaya bibilin ko??? pinaka murang hindi local?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 13, 2009, 11:07:46 PM
hindi pag na sira chaka ako bibili ng bago... pero hindi pa po sure yon mga bro... kasi na bili na din yung ddrums sa raon eh... kaya ngayon wala pa... hay ano kaya bibilin ko??? pinaka murang hindi local?
ano ba yung mga local kit na sinasabi mo? sounds interesting... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: drumachine on October 13, 2009, 11:30:27 PM
@ sir kino... yung local brand like fernando rj lazer etc...
@ sir drumachine... ano po ba tawag dun? hindi ko po kasi alam hehehe... :lol:
@ sir paeng16... budget ko lang po 28k kasama na po cymbals dun... :-D wala pa work eh... :-(
Dude... stop asking too many questions na men... buy kana ng gusto mong drums para mas lumawak ang mundo mo sa drums... And para maiba na tanong mo men!! hehehe...
Get your feet wet and stop feeling the water.. JUMP IN THE FIRE MEN!!! :evil:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: migs_23 on October 14, 2009, 04:16:20 PM
wag ka na kasi mapili cav.. 2nd hand or bnew parehas lang yan.. CONDITION ang importante.. cguro naman may mata ka.. diba? ahha! anyway. . yung kay sir homer.. mura at pwede na yun..namahalan ka pa sa 8k eh presyong cymbal na nga lang eh.. =))
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 14, 2009, 04:27:49 PM
Cav eto lang basehan men..
1) matibay ba ang hardware na bibilhin mo?? 2) Madali bang i-tono yung kit (kasi pag hindi madali itono, badtrip na kit yan and may indicate damaged lugs etc) 3) RESALE value... ok ba resale nyan after 3 to 5 years??
in addition... I'd go sa NEW set kesa sa second hand... atleast ikaw unang bumanat dun!! :roll: hahaha...
Sige men.. .bahala kana sa desisyon mo men...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kintosh on October 14, 2009, 04:45:03 PM
Are you considering Fernando? May sinamahan ako last month bumili nito sa JB, ung drums lang without PlanetZ, around 11k lang. Maganda ung hardwares, di lang kasing kapal nung gibraltar or pearls, pero ok na din sya. The rest of your budget - 17k - you can start easily with ZBT4, sobra pa yan. Or hunting ka ng 2nd hand dito. Dami dyan! Happy hunting!
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Post by: unnailed on October 14, 2009, 08:53:43 PM
@paeng. hehehe... nag tatanong lang ako baka mag sise ako eh hehehe... :lol: @migs. ano kaya? 8k wala pang hardware and sanre yun men... kung kasing yaman lang kita hindi na ako mag i2sip... hehehe... pag bumili ako ng drum set pedal mo lang yun saka isang cymbals... amp... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on October 14, 2009, 10:03:21 PM
@paeng. hehehe... nag tatanong lang ako baka mag sise ako eh hehehe... :lol: @migs. ano kaya? 8k wala pang hardware and sanre yun men... kung kasing yaman lang kita hindi na ako mag i2sip... hehehe... pag bumili ako ng drum set pedal mo lang yun saka isang cymbals... amp... :-D
DUDE.... PREMATURE-GAS-ATTACK YAN!!! hahahha...
bili ka ng drums then hwag ka muna pumunta dito sa forums or mag canvass sa mga music stores para hindi ka magsise!! hahaha..
OK lang yang dude... yan ang isa sa masayang part ng drumming at buhay dude...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 14, 2009, 10:07:21 PM
Are you considering Fernando? May sinamahan ako last month bumili nito sa JB, ung drums lang without PlanetZ, around 11k lang. Maganda ung hardwares, di lang kasing kapal nung gibraltar or pearls, pero ok na din sya. The rest of your budget - 17k - you can start easily with ZBT4, sobra pa yan. Or hunting ka ng 2nd hand dito. Dami dyan! Happy hunting!
fernando ata ung kit ni unnailed before, upgrade mode ata siya. correct me if i'm wrong. :wink:
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Post by: unnailed on October 15, 2009, 12:08:39 AM
fernando ata ung kit ni unnailed before, upgrade mode ata siya. correct me if i'm wrong. :wink:
yap kakabenta ko pa lang po pero yung pagka post nya ulit parang ang super panget ng kit ko...hehehehe panget lang yun dati, pero yung pag ka post nya parang super panget na... :-D binili tapos bebenta ulit, tinatanong ko sya kung bakit nya binibenta ulit hindi naman sumasagot... hehe... :-)
1st drum set ko xtrek lang 2nd yung fernandong naka post s clasi... 3rd ah eh hindi ko pa alam hehehe... bnew sana and pang matagalan na... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on October 15, 2009, 12:11:47 AM
yap kakabenta ko pa lang po pero yung pagka post nya ulit parang ang super panget ng kit ko...hehehehe panget lang yun dati, pero yung pag ka post nya parang super panget na... :-D binili tapos bebenta ulit, tinatanong ko sya kung bakit nya binibenta ulit hindi naman sumasagot... hehe... :-)
1st drum set ko xtrek lang 2nd yung fernandong naka post s clasi... 3rd ah eh hindi ko pa alam hehehe... bnew sana and pang matagalan na... :-D
ask ko lang... ano hindi mo nagustuhan sa fernando mo?
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Post by: unnailed on October 15, 2009, 12:28:14 AM
ask ko lang... ano hindi mo nagustuhan sa fernando mo?
wala naman, yung cymbals talaga yung gusto kong palitan... e hirap ibenta kaya pinacage ko na... pangarap ko din magka drum set na bago e saka branded... hehehe... sana matupad... :-D
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Post by: drumachine on October 15, 2009, 12:32:23 AM
wala naman, yung cymbals talaga yung gusto kong palitan... e hirap ibenta kaya pinacage ko na... pangarap ko din magka drum set na bago e saka branded... hehehe... sana matupad... :-D
ah i see. ipon ka na lang nang malaki para sa iyon brand new and branded drums.hehe. para mas lumapit sa pagsakatuparan.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 15, 2009, 12:37:54 AM
yun nga po... b8 yung may free na 18... 13,990 ata yun or 13,999 basta yun almost 14k na pero sulit 5pis n sya... wala nga lang cymbal bag... :-D meron na ba dito ng gator na cymbal bag na soft case?
mas mura pa to bro dun sa balak mu bilin sa yupanco eh.
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Post by: unnailed on October 16, 2009, 11:06:46 PM
hehe. ganun? mas mura pa to bro dun sa balak mu bilin sa yupanco eh.
yung cymbals lang, meron po ba syang binibentang drum kit?
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Post by: drumachine on October 16, 2009, 11:13:34 PM
none. but your total budget IIRC is more than 30k right? for both drums and cymbals? pag package kasi binili mu, wala ka nang choice mamili ng gusto mong drums. ah and brandnew na ddrums is from jb, and ang bagong b8 ay sa yupanco, so hiwalay mu rin sila bibilin.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 16, 2009, 11:42:45 PM
none. but your total budget IIRC is more than 30k right? for both drums and cymbals? pag package kasi binili mu, wala ka nang choice mamili ng gusto mong drums. ah and brandnew na ddrums is from jb, and ang bagong b8 ay sa yupanco, so hiwalay mu rin sila bibilin.
baka mag yamaha na lang po ako... hehehe... :lol: yoko na ng ddrums e... :-D
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Post by: drumachine on October 16, 2009, 11:46:00 PM
ayun. good choice pare. gigmaker?
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Post by: unnailed on October 17, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
yap, meron pa bang mas sulit dun? sana meron pa... hehehe... :lol:
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Post by: drumachine on October 17, 2009, 12:36:39 AM
ok na yun bro. sulit ka na sa wood and hardwares nun.
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Post by: unnailed on October 17, 2009, 12:44:58 AM
i dont know bro. punta ka nalang JB and Lyric para makita mo. may dadi sila dun yung stick bag, meron nun sa pilipinas sure ako. di ko lang alam kung merun sa TMS, SPL at hi-fi.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on October 19, 2009, 11:17:39 AM
i dont know bro. punta ka nalang JB and Lyric para makita mo. may dadi sila dun yung stick bag, meron nun sa pilipinas sure ako. di ko lang alam kung merun sa TMS, SPL at hi-fi.
thanks sir drumachine... naka usap ko n po si jamature meron daw po... 395 daw... :-D
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Post by: pauldavid_7 on October 30, 2009, 10:44:18 AM
WHOA?!?! Ako 13 yrs old lang ako maalaga naman ako sa gamit :))
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Post by: drumachine on October 31, 2009, 01:14:26 AM
WHOA?!?! Ako 13 yrs old lang ako maalaga naman ako sa gamit :))
:?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 12, 2009, 08:55:29 PM
planning to buy a kit sa church.
super close ung environment, aound 100-150 capacity yung kaya ng church.
plan ko, electronic drums na lang yung bilhin ko para sa church, tutal, para controlled yung sound and mabalance yung music blending.
paki sulat naman po yung CONS and PRO ng acoustic drums VS electronic drums. Pati po yung lahat ng kailangan sa electric drums, I'm not familiar with its set-up eh.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on November 12, 2009, 09:00:26 PM
super close ung environment, aound 100-150 capacity yung kaya ng church.
plan ko, electronic drums na lang yung bilhin ko para sa church, tutal, para controlled yung sound and mabalance yung music blending.
paki sulat naman po yung CONS and PRO ng acoustic drums VS electronic drums. Pati po yung lahat ng kailangan sa electric drums, I'm not familiar with its set-up eh.
bro dito sa thread natin maraming inputs din ---> http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,154011.0.html
Title: Re: What newbees should know before buying a Drum item
Post by: otepandrew on November 14, 2009, 04:52:26 PM
bad trip nga eh nung una bese na bumili ako cymbals ang binili ko ZBT na crask mura kasi kala ko ok kainis ngyun medyo may alam na ako dahil dito sa pinoydrums
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unnailed on November 27, 2009, 09:37:47 AM
ano sa tingin nyo pinaka sulit na splash and china? kung tight and budget nyo? yung tatagal... (8 splash, 14 china)
for ex. sabian b8, kasi 15k mahigit 5 pis na pang matagalan pa, ok pa ang tunog... :-D
yung meron dito satin... brand new...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: _carlo on January 02, 2010, 10:56:21 AM
with a 20-25k budget, ano best choice ko for a drumset? pref a 5 piece kit with a good hihat, crash and a ride. thanks ! :-D
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Post by: _carlo on January 03, 2010, 07:47:43 AM
*bump* :-D
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Post by: Riff_6603 on January 03, 2010, 08:19:53 AM
with a 20-25k budget, ano best choice ko for a drumset? pref a 5 piece kit with a good hihat, crash and a ride. thanks ! :-D
try these as well! cheers! :wink:
RAON Drum Music Stores thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,27156.0.html
Meron bang drum set na price ranging between 15-20k? http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,156795.0.html
Drum-Related GAS Shopping Reference Thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,34526.0.html
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kokok on January 03, 2010, 12:41:41 PM
Hi guys,
i've tried the search function several times but all i was getting was "disabled due to high server load" so i figured out might as well post it here.
its my first time to buy a double bass pedal. i've already set my sight and budget on a certain brand and model. i plan to use this on my e-drums first and later on, on my project acoustic kit. i have a couple of questions though:
position of the beaters? ung master ba is at dead center while the slave is slightly on the left or parehas silang off-center? same position on an e-drum kit?
also, i imagined i'd be going like "dugugugugugugugugudug" on this thing, is it advisable to use a falam patch? pati sa e-drums?
Thanks. :-)
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Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 03, 2010, 01:22:49 PM
yung position ko laging off-center yung dalawang beaters :-)
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Post by: daleee on January 03, 2010, 01:52:42 PM
yeah, ako rin off center para atleast parehas sila ng tunog... kasi kung isa lang ang dead center, yung isang beater ang may dalang mas maraming overtones... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on January 03, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
i've tried the search function several times but all i was getting was "disabled due to high server load" so i figured out might as well post it here.
its my first time to buy a double bass pedal. i've already set my sight and budget on a certain brand and model. i plan to use this on my e-drums first and later on, on my project acoustic kit. i have a couple of questions though:
position of the beaters? ung master ba is at dead center while the slave is slightly on the left or parehas silang off-center? same position on an e-drum kit?
also, i imagined i'd be going like "dugugugugugugugugudug" on this thing, is it advisable to use a falam patch? pati sa e-drums?
Thanks. :-)
sa electronic drums, it doesnt matter if your beaters are dead center or off-center and you dont need a falam patch.
sa acoustic, it matters a lot. kapag centered yung master pedal, palaging fuller at bigger yung tunog nya kesa slave so you have to position both slightly off center
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: _carlo on January 03, 2010, 06:47:16 PM
choice between sonor, fernando and tama. ano magandang kit un around 25k lng. and if possible un may matinong basic cymbals na rin, hehe
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Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 04, 2010, 03:49:22 PM
kung ako tama nlng,siguro depende din sa model. halos naman ata sila ZBT plus yung ksamang cymbals pag sa jb binili diba??
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Post by: Kumag on January 10, 2010, 09:22:26 AM
Magandang araw sa inio,
bale gusto ko malaman meron ba nagbebenta na music store ng mga ito sa manila (what music store and branch?)
Vic firth mute pads (mpp3) standard set pack yamaha 3 hole clamps cymbal stacker w/ tilter at generic boom stands
kung meron po bale saan po at magkano po, sorry sa mga tanong tagaBAGUIO ako la mga yan dito at overprice d2 haha at meron lang dito generic boom stands pero d ka makakadiscount bale kumukuha lang akong information lang regarding sa mga ito kung available
salamat
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Post by: straightedgejep on January 10, 2010, 10:05:03 AM
bale gusto ko malaman meron ba nagbebenta na music store ng mga ito sa manila (what music store and branch?)
Vic firth mute pads (mpp3) standard set pack yamaha 3 hole clamps cymbal stacker w/ tilter at generic boom stands
kung meron po bale saan po at magkano po, sorry sa mga tanong tagaBAGUIO ako la mga yan dito at overprice d2 haha at meron lang dito generic boom stands pero d ka makakadiscount bale kumukuha lang akong information lang regarding sa mga ito kung available
salamat
sir kung mute pads po na standard meron ako nakita sa SPL sa raon. .around 2000+ kaso hindi siya vic firth, Vater po ang brand pero pwede na rin yun kung mute lang naman ang habol niyo. . meron din vater mute sa mga branch ng lazer. . hope this helps :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Kumag on January 10, 2010, 11:55:51 AM
@straightedgejep, madaming salamat sa information pero d ganun kaganda ang vater mute pads natry ko na eh tumatagos din lang nabubutasan agad haha
guys anong range ng prices ng Boom stands and cymbals stacker (GENERIC)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: redvillain on January 15, 2010, 06:55:47 PM
Depende po sir sa gusto mo na brand. But for my personal choice, and lifetime investment, I'd go for pearl drums. Just pm sir jpmb / jp buduan for the details or drop by yupanco makati na lang. :-D
+1
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Post by: SAITOHAJIME on January 15, 2010, 07:55:29 PM
choice between sonor, fernando and tama. ano magandang kit un around 25k lng. and if possible un may matinong basic cymbals na rin, hehe
Walang TAMA na 25K lang hehehe. Tapos kung need mo may cymbals na sa 25K budget, walang ganon na Sonor. Kaya fernando na lang ang babagsakan mo. So no choice ka na. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unknownprofile on January 17, 2010, 04:01:48 PM
hi friends,
1) Ask ko lang kung ano mas OK Pearl Target or Sonor force 507?
2) Ano yung entry level na drum kit ng TAMA? and how much kung may nakakaalam.
Salamat po ng marami.
God Bless
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: shiki on January 18, 2010, 12:00:06 AM
hello po!
question ko po...
maganda po ba at sulit po ba yung regal tip practice pad? mga 1k na din siya sa lazer..
at anung brand po maganda na medyo mura na china cymbal? mga 16/17 ang size..
pls. give your comments about the said product..
thank you po! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: metalmuhlisha on January 18, 2010, 12:51:04 AM
^ok na yung regal tip kung ok lang sayo yung tunog nung pad. medyo maingay e.
pero kung hindi, try mo vic firth 1500 ata sa lyric. or aquarian tru-bounce (the best) sa sound essentials.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: shiki on January 18, 2010, 01:55:32 AM
^ok na yung regal tip kung ok lang sayo yung tunog nung pad. medyo maingay e.
pero kung hindi, try mo vic firth 1500 ata sa lyric. or aquarian tru-bounce (the best) sa sound essentials.
ayun! yung aquarian tru-bounce mga magkano po halaga? sa lyric din po ba meron?
salamat po sa reply! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: metalmuhlisha on January 18, 2010, 02:06:44 AM
^nalimutan ko na kung magkano e. pero mas mahal siya konti kesa sa vic firth. sa sound essentials lang meron nun. sm moa yung isang branch nila yung iba ewan ko kung nasan.
dapat yun yung bibilhin ko kaso nung nagtanong ako dati walang stock, kaya nagpabili nalang ako ng vic firth pad sa ibang bansa (dati pa to, hindi pa handle ng lyric vic firth nun)
btw yung 1500 ata na vic firth pad yung 6" yun. i use the 12" version.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: tzard on January 22, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
mga sir ...Im a bassist and not that familiar about drums. Im planning to buy a kit na pwede for small space lang, may nakita akong medeli dd-506 na digital drums and worth 36k. Do you know any other brands na mas cheaper? or better quality? salamat po! thanks to this forum, dami ko natututunan. \m/
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 22, 2010, 10:50:43 PM
anung brand po maganda na medyo mura na china cymbal? mga 16/17 ang size..
pls. give your comments about the said product..
thank you po! :-D
try stagg or wuhans. :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: arien_drummer on January 24, 2010, 11:39:58 AM
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hi friends,
1) Ask ko lang kung ano mas OK Pearl Target or Sonor force 507?
2) Ano yung entry level na drum kit ng TAMA? and how much kung may nakakaalam.
Salamat po ng marami.
God Bless
If I were you, I'd go for the sonor force 507. entry level ng tama (the latest pero di ko sure kung may stock sa mga audiophile) is yung imperial star. di rin ako sure sa price.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unknownprofile on January 24, 2010, 06:41:38 PM
If I were you, I'd go for the sonor force 507. entry level ng tama (the latest pero di ko sure kung may stock sa mga audiophile) is yung imperial star. di rin ako sure sa price.
Salamat po sa idea.
Kaya lang po wala na daw stock ng Sonor force 507 ngayon. May nakita po akong Mapex Q series Ok din kaya yun compare sa Pearl Target?
Thank you
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: JOHNSEL ERNEST on February 07, 2010, 08:33:59 AM
paTULONG naman po.. i am now planning to buy a good DRUM SET my BUDGET is around 20-25k can you suggest one set for me? may mabibili ba ako na BRAND NEW na may kasama na DECENT cymbals set? what BRAND? and WHERE can i find it? SALAMAT po!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: markie10 on February 07, 2010, 08:48:06 AM
Kaya lang po wala na daw stock ng Sonor force 507 ngayon. May nakita po akong Mapex Q series Ok din kaya yun compare sa Pearl Target?
Thank you
yes go for force 507..yan gamit ko ngayon eh hehehe...sa raon meron yung shop dun na pangalan MANILA meron sila pag tanung ko kahapon hehehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: daleee on February 07, 2010, 10:39:57 AM
mga sir, bibili ako ng metronome at gusto ko sana ung Korg MA-30 dahil mura siya at mukhang ayos na para sakin. tanong lang, ang hanap ko po kasi sa metronome eh yung may triplets, plays quarter, eighth, sixteenth notes: yun po ba yung equivalent ng "duplets, triplets, triplets with inner beats omitted, quadruplets, and quadruplets with inner beats omitted" na nakasulat sa features ng MA-30... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mokie on February 07, 2010, 05:41:25 PM
sir im planning to buy TAMA SUPERSTAR, may marerecommend po ba kau kung san ito pwde mabli ng mura lang?sa raon kasi nkita ko 41,650 daw un,san pa po kaya pwde magcanvass? at pati paiste PST 5 po,san din po ito available? salamat! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unknownprofile on February 07, 2010, 06:17:39 PM
sir im planning to buy TAMA SUPERSTAR, may marerecommend po ba kau kung san ito pwde mabli ng mura lang?sa raon kasi nkita ko 41,650 daw un,san pa po kaya pwde magcanvass? at pati paiste PST 5 po,san din po ito available? salamat! :-D
I dont know kung mura sa audiophile sila kasi ang may hawak ng TAMA at paiste, store located at Alimall cubao, Robinson pioneer , Makati Cinema Square etc...
Salamat sa tulong regarding po kung ano mas OK na Kit Pearl Target or Sonor 507. Mapex Q napo ang nabili namin. So far maganda naman ang tunog at hardware. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unknownprofile on February 07, 2010, 06:26:57 PM
@ unknown profile, thanks! san ko pwde mkita ung prices nila?or my contact number ka ba nila?thanks!
ang best po ay puntahan nyo nalng sa store ng JB, kasi minsan may discount. sa Audiophile naman puntahan mo nrin po kasi di ko rin makita sa site nila yung mga prices. :-D
@soul reversal
Sonor 507 or Mapex Q.
dati pinagpilian ko rin yan. ang first choice ko personally Sonor 507 sana. kasi naka sale cya ng 22,750 sa JB at Manila Music(Raon) with cymbals na planetZ. "h-hat + CrashRide(ata)" . lumalabas kasi n 6k ata yung brand new yung planetZ 3pcs. less mo sa 22,750. tipid na diba. well package mo lang cya pedeng bilhin.
Hardware (hindi ako nakagamit ng Sonor 507 kaya di ko masabi) pero some of drummers ok the to. I think this is the entry level of Sonor, pero di ka talo sa hardware according sa ibang drummer(s). 1 cymbal stand. i forgot if may throne n kasama yun.
Sound (i have this link for you)
ikaw n humusga. :-D
for MApex Q naman. (eto kasi binili namin para sa church) Ang actual price nito as of Last week of January. 26,995 10% less pag cash, pero nakuha cya ng 22k. cash.
.and wala lang cymbals.
2 cymbals stand included. (straight + boom) throne. Remo UX yung lahat ng drumhead.
Hardware (i think heavy duty cya) itsura (ok din) feeling ko mejo malaki ang mga toms nya. (or sadyang maliit na tao lang ako..hahaha)
Sound (dapat lagyan ng muffler para di ma overtone...same with Sonor base on video) na test ko na tong Mapex (Ok cya)
eto links para sa Mapex Q
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Personally naging choice ko po ang Mapex Q, because of the videos, ask din ako sa ibang friends. then may cymbals pa naman po, kaya no need ng new. tapos 2 kasi ang cymbals stand. nagtanong kasi ako ng brand new pearl nasa 2.8k dagdag gastos pa. kung quality parehas silang entry level.
Ask mo narin mga Dugong Pinoy nating mga drummer dito sa philmusic para sa dagdag kaalaman.
Sana nakatulong sayo. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unknownprofile on February 07, 2010, 11:51:29 PM
Ask mo narin mga Dugong Pinoy nating mga drummer ......
im sorry not "narin"...
ask mo "rin"... hehe... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: soul reversal on February 08, 2010, 06:07:35 PM
salamat sa feedback sir, now im really having a hard time deciding on which one to get hahaha, guess i'd have to test drive them myself. thanks.
yun po ang the best... kaya lang di ko lang po alam kung pede ma try ang sonor sa store. usually kasi hindi sila(store) nagpapalo. Balitaan mo nalang kami kung ano binili mo sir, share mo narin pics. hehe
:-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mokie on February 09, 2010, 09:36:18 PM
sir alam niyo po ba kung magkano tong item na to -Istanbul Mehmet 8” Hand-Hammered- ?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: soul reversal on February 11, 2010, 05:53:35 PM
salamat sa mga tips from our fellow pinoydrum folks markie10 and unknownprofile... eto yung nabili kong kit from SPL sa raon, havent set it up yet cause i'll be taking them anyway with me to the province this weekend, and i dont want to have to take them apart again for travel...(dapat sa "Let's see those kits!" section ko ipo-post ito e, kaso hindi pa naka set-up and tipong mga high end ang mga nakita kong kits dun heheheh). i decided to get the mapex Q since it already has a drum throne, and two cymbal stand (aside from the hat stand) included in the package. i took out the snare drum and tuned it out a bit and i was satisfied with how it sounded, havent tried out the toms and other drums yet...anyway here are some of the pictures, i'll take better ones soon when i get to set it up...thanks again... (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4843/image261.jpg) (http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8308/image270r.jpg) (http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5962/image259c.jpg) (http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5962/image272b.jpg) (http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5811/image262y.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7006/image265l.jpg)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: unknownprofile on February 11, 2010, 11:52:09 PM
welcome bro. Magkano pala score mo? parehas na kayo ng kit ng church namin. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: markie10 on February 12, 2010, 12:19:08 AM
:-D hehe no poblemo..wow nice kit hintayin ko yan sa lets see those kit..happy drumming yes sarap nian...wooohoooow
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: RazorsEdge on February 13, 2010, 01:55:24 PM
Good Day.. Guys ano kaya maganda na drumset sa budget na 40k with cymbals? or 30k without cymbals? thanks in advance..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on February 13, 2010, 09:43:36 PM
pearl at tama,w/ or w/o cymbals
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: charlesdavidlim on February 14, 2010, 12:33:02 AM
mga sir, ask ko lng po kung pwede nb ung remo skin para sa snare? 500 pesos po na 2ndhand. tnx :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: daleee on February 14, 2010, 11:41:27 AM
parang dun sa leaflet nila dati, nung sale ata (I might be wrong though)... better yet, call JB... http://jbmusic.com.ph/images/showrooms.jpg
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: recca25 on February 14, 2010, 10:54:13 PM
ano ung entry level drums ng tama , pearl , gretsch , sonor ung maganda na po ung hardware pati sound and quality nag hahanap kasi ako newbie din aq sa pag tingin ng drums.
Title: i need advice
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on February 17, 2010, 01:42:57 AM
help po, kailangan ko kasi ng drum set, bnew or 2nd hand. magkano po ba pinaka murang drum set na bnew o 2nd hand? at least ganitong setup sana (5-pc po ba tawag dito? bale di kasama sa bilang yung cymbals, drums lang? newbie po...)
student pa lang po ako kaya maliit lang talaga budget, bebenta ko nga lang cp ko para makabili haha. saka nagsstart pa lang din naman ako magaral mag drums.
sabi sa raon daw meron dun mga murang drum set, ok po kaya yun? i mean, sa sound siguro baka di pasado sa mga Pro, pero pagtyatyagaan ko na muna siguro. pag gumaling na saka na lang siguro mas magandang drums. o kaya di ba pwede po i-upgrade yung drum heads para gumanda tunog? o panget din yun kahit palitan yung drum heads? sa build quality po, ok po ba? di ba madaling masira yung shell (yun po ba tawag dun sa kaha nung drums?)
o mas ok po ba yung 2nd hand na mga lazer o kaya ibang brand na <9k? kung mag 2nd hand po ako, ano ba dapat kong tignan pag bibili?
thanks po. sensya na sa madaming tanong...wala pa ako alam sa drums hehe. newbie po talaga.
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: omnicloud7 on February 17, 2010, 02:08:26 AM
magkano po ba pinaka murang drum set na bnew o 2nd hand?
Maraming places kung saan may magandang deals like sa malls, JB, PPitch, etc, Pwede ka rin tumingin tingin dito sa classifieds natin, may mga deals narin dun na wala ng mas susulit pa.
sabi sa raon daw meron dun mga murang drum set, ok po kaya yun? i mean, sa sound siguro baka di pasado sa mga Pro, pero pagtyatyagaan ko na muna siguro.
Okay lang naman din. Make sure nalang na the quality's okay, test out the kit first if possible.
o kaya di ba pwede po i-upgrade yung drum heads para gumanda tunog? o panget din yun kahit palitan yung drum heads? sa build quality po, ok po ba? di ba madaling masira yung shell (yun po ba tawag dun sa kaha nung drums?)
Keep in mind nalang na some kits, kahit gaano ka pa kagaling magtune, ang panget parin talaga ng tunog. Hindi ka gaganahin magpractice sa ganito! Syempre kung maganda tunog, gaganahin ka magpractice lalo. Yung mga Fernando kits ang mairerecommend ko, mura na sila tapos okay na okay na. Yun din pwede mo upgrade heads nila (Remo, Evans, Aquarian), tapos practice practice sa tuning, ayos na!
o mas ok po ba yung 2nd hand na mga lazer o kaya ibang brand na <9k? kung mag 2nd hand po ako, ano ba dapat kong tignan pag bibili?
Kung ako rin pipiliin, bibili nako ng 2nd hand na high-end. Kasi in the long run, tatagal rin naman talaga ito, at kung baka sakali, it just might be the last kit that you'll ever need. Remember nalang na you get what you pay for sa stores. Kung cheap, cheap. Kung mahal, good quality! Since starting out ka palang, ang mairerecommend ko is bumili ka ng mid-end kit like Fernando. Tatagal na ito sayo! After mong makakuha ng kit, mag-ipon ka na para sa magandang high-end cymbals. Mas okay ng bumili ng mahal sa simula, kesa sa bili ng bili ng panget ng paulit-ulit. Yung drums matotono mo yun para gumanda tunog, eh yung cymbals? hindi dba?
hope this helps bro! i tried to remember every bit of advice i got from the others, sana nakatulong. goodluck, and most of all, keep enjoying drumming! passion talaga ang kailangan sa kahit anong instrument. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 17, 2010, 04:29:21 AM
hope these topics could help out! cheers! :wink:
First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here! http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,41598.0.html
Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10184.0.html
RAON Drum Music Stores thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,27156.msg225065.html#msg225065
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: CDodrummer on February 17, 2010, 12:23:14 PM
If you're still starting out you can invest on a pair of sticks and a practice pad instead :)
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: paeng16 on February 17, 2010, 07:28:20 PM
Pinaka mura yung 8.5K na lazer CRAP Drums.. pero yung mga MAAYOS na tunog na drum ranges from 20K+ (dunno kung may cymbals na yun).
Post mo budget mo kung magkano dude para mas ma tulungan ka ng mga peeps dito... kung 10K... well abang abang ka muna sa mga 2nd hand. oks!!
If you're still starting out you can invest on a pair of sticks and a practice pad instead :)
Ang KJ mo naman dude... hehehe... sadista nga ang gusto nya eh... (I can tell kasi pati cell phone nya ibenta nya eh!) hehehe..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: soul reversal on February 17, 2010, 07:44:06 PM
@unknownprofile nascore ko sir ng 19k, hay naku hindi ko pa napapaluan dito sa kabundukan hehehe.
@markie10 sige sir pag na set-up na, upload ako ng pics uli hehe.
salamat uli...
happy drumming to all...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: RazorsEdge on February 17, 2010, 08:25:29 PM
Ano po mas maganda in this 2 kinds of configuration? Standard configuration comes with a 22 x 18 bass drum, 12 x 9 and 13 x 10 tom toms, a 16 x 16 floor tom, and a 14 x 5.5 snare drum. The Fusion configuration includes a 22 x 18 bass drum, 10 x 8 and 12 x 9 tom toms, a 14 x 14 floor tom and a 14 x 5.5 snare drum.
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on February 17, 2010, 08:29:43 PM
@omnicloud7 thanks po sa effort bro. tatandaan ko po mga sinabi nyo=)
@Riff_66603 thanks sa links. binabasa ko sya=) dami rin ako natututunan...
@CDodrummer problema po kasi sakin, mabagal ako matuto pag di ako nageenjoy....saka iba pa rin po kasi yung may drum set. mas gaganahan ako magbasa sa net at magpractice.
@paeng16 as in ganun po ba kapangit? eh kung mapalitan po ng drum heads pangit pa rin po ba sya? yung nasa pic po, ganun kasi yung balak ko...may nakita ako na nagbebenta nyan 8k lang...2nd hand sya. pano pong sadista? yung sa cp ko kasi wala akong choice, di ako ibibili ng parents ko ng drum set kasi di naman daw importante yun. kaso gusto ko talaga mag drums.
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: francisnuega on February 17, 2010, 08:45:08 PM
dito na sa Philmusic sa classifieds...tapos kunin mong kit yung mga high-end na like Pearl,Tama,Gretsch,Sonor,etc...at wag na wag ka bibili sa RAON ng mga murang drumsets!!!
Title: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: JOHNSEL ERNEST on February 19, 2010, 09:04:18 AM
paTULONG naman po.. i am now planning to buy a good DRUM SET my BUDGET is around 20-25k can you suggest one set for me? may mabibili ba ako na BRAND NEW na may kasama na DECENT cymbals set? what BRAND? and WHERE can i find it? SALAMAT po!
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: uy12umainer on February 19, 2010, 09:43:34 AM
bro mapex q yung best drums na nasa budget nayan 20k lang sa spl raon,, sa cymbals naman tingin ka sa classifieds maraming magandang deal doon
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: paeng16 on February 19, 2010, 09:53:39 AM
try mo Pearl Forum or Sonor or ludwig, at kalimutan mo na yung mga DDRUM Sh1T, fernando, regal, etc (pangit yung mga ganun, mabadtrip kalang sa pag totono hehehe.). Mapex I haven't tried this and it may be worth looking for. :-D
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: unknownprofile on February 19, 2010, 10:11:17 AM
bro mapex q yung best drums na nasa budget nayan 20k lang sa spl raon,, sa cymbals naman tingin ka sa classifieds maraming magandang deal doon
i agree for this Mapex Q na kit.. Tapos bili ka ng Planet Z na cymbals kung brand new hanap mo. pero kung 2nd , abang abang ka lang sa classifieds makakakita k ng murang cymbals. :-D
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: NiardicA on February 19, 2010, 10:24:03 AM
Ludwig Accent.... 24k bili ko dati sa kit ko,.. kasama na PZ cymbals nun.. ewan ko lang ngayon... wala pa sale sa JB now eh...
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: unknownprofile on February 19, 2010, 11:12:09 AM
yah i saw that kit sa mega (Ludwig), yung sonor 507 last year 2009. nasa around 22750 kit + planet Z may promo yun that time. ngaun :-D
@niardica >>> salamat sa pedal ang sarap gamitin. :-)
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 19, 2010, 11:51:20 AM
Meron bang drum set na price ranging between 15-20k? http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,156795.0.html
First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here! http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,41598.0.html
Drum-Related GAS Shopping Reference Thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,34526.0.html
RAON Drum Music Stores thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,27156.0.html
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mokie on February 19, 2010, 02:32:37 PM
ano pong magandang set na mabibili ng 40-50k? with good cymbals na rin.. =D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: paeng16 on February 19, 2010, 02:49:28 PM
Ask mo sa JB kung may SALE sila dude.. usually yung naka lagay na TAG PRICE eh may LESS pa yun... 20% or 25% ata...
ALL MAPLE NA SHELLS NITO.. GIBRALTAR HARDWARES.. NICE FINISH PA!!...
(and more GRRRRRRR!!!) hehehe.. :evil:
Pahabol... Hwag kana mag RAON men... kasi yung PRICE DUN at sa JB SAME LANG NAMAN... NAKA AIRCON KAPA AT NASA MALL hehehehe... GRRRR!!! bili na dude!!! hehehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on February 19, 2010, 11:37:52 PM
Pahabol... Hwag kana mag RAON men... kasi yung PRICE DUN at sa JB SAME LANG NAMAN... NAKA AIRCON KAPA AT NASA MALL hehehehe... GRRRR!!! bili na dude!!! hehehe
mas safe pa diba :-D
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on February 21, 2010, 01:02:28 AM
pwede na kaya pang starter? tama lang ba price? pero mukang mura na sya...di ako sure kasi may nakita ako na Lazer na halos same price kaso sold na ata.
pwede rin ba palitan yung mga drum heads nito? compatible ba sya dun sa mga nabibili sa JB at Lazer? tnx...
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: JOHNSEL ERNEST on February 21, 2010, 07:12:25 AM
salamat po sa response..
Mapex Q Ludwig Accent Sonor Force Pearl Target ano po ang pinakamura dito? maliit po ba ang mga toms nila? may kasama na po ba sila extra boom stand for ride?
and how much po un brand new PZ set kung bibilhin ko separately?
sorry po kung maraming questions wala pa po kasi kasi time na pumunta at maglibot sa manila and para alam ko na rin po kung ano yung pupuntahan kong store salamat po ulit!
Title: Re: i need advice
Post by: daleee on February 21, 2010, 09:32:57 AM
sorry, but if budget permits, go for the drum set that could bear all the beating (since you're just starting and learning how to strike properly) that has hardware that could probably last until you have the money to buy new ones... :-D
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: daleee on February 21, 2010, 09:53:05 AM
good drum set for me has good wood... i'd go for fernando drums since it may maple siya and birch... and as for the tuning problems, check the bearing edges of the drums that you are buying (it affects the tuning, the problem with the tuning of cheap drums) :-D
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: uy12umainer on February 21, 2010, 10:24:46 AM
bro may pearl target series sa jb music ngayon na may kasamang zildjian zbt4 cymbals 22k ata yun nalang kunin mo bawing bawi ka na dun
Title: Re: DRUM HELP!!!
Post by: thrash666 on February 21, 2010, 01:51:03 PM
Ludwig Accent.... 24k bili ko dati sa kit ko,.. kasama na PZ cymbals nun.. ewan ko lang ngayon... wala pa sale sa JB now eh...
Everyday nga sale sa JB dito samin :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: xzeist on February 21, 2010, 11:00:09 PM
mga sir..
mag tanong lang po ako.. gusto ko kasi matuto mag drums, ano bang mas okay? Option 1: Gusto ko sana bumili nang basic drum set at subukan kong mag aral magisa. Option 2: Magtake muna ako nang drum lessons bago ako bumili nang drum set.
at if option 1 ang answer nyo, kung pwede mag state na rin kayo nang drum set na basic at affordable para sa beginner na katulad ko (as in walang alam).
MARAMING SALAMAT PO! :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mokie on February 26, 2010, 08:12:11 PM
ano po ang difference ng natural finish sa brilliant finish ng Xs20?thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: daleee on February 26, 2010, 09:26:46 PM
mag tanong lang po ako.. gusto ko kasi matuto mag drums, ano bang mas okay? Option 1: Gusto ko sana bumili nang basic drum set at subukan kong mag aral magisa. Option 2: Magtake muna ako nang drum lessons bago ako bumili nang drum set.
at if option 1 ang answer nyo, kung pwede mag state na rin kayo nang drum set na basic at affordable para sa beginner na katulad ko (as in walang alam).
MARAMING SALAMAT PO! :-D
para sakin option 2... buy practice pad, metronome & take drum lessons...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: smarty on February 26, 2010, 11:47:23 PM
mag tanong lang po ako.. gusto ko kasi matuto mag drums, ano bang mas okay? Option 1: Gusto ko sana bumili nang basic drum set at subukan kong mag aral magisa. Option 2: Magtake muna ako nang drum lessons bago ako bumili nang drum set.
at if option 1 ang answer nyo, kung pwede mag state na rin kayo nang drum set na basic at affordable para sa beginner na katulad ko (as in walang alam).
para sakin option 2... buy practice pad, metronome & take drum lessons...
+1 sa option2: learn first, be experienced, know your style. By the time you buy ur own kit alam na alam mo na ang gusto mong bilhin. :-D sa option1: Since newbie ka pa, may tendency kang makabili ng kit ngayon tapus papalitan mo ulit after sometime (na magkaroon ka ng experience/knowledge/style) kasi di mo trip yun una mong nabili. :-(
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Post by: mokie on March 02, 2010, 08:49:02 PM
magkano po kaya yung Gibraltar 6611 Double pedal?
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Post by: charlesdavidlim on March 12, 2010, 09:43:47 PM
Ask mo sa JB kung may SALE sila dude.. usually yung naka lagay na TAG PRICE eh may LESS pa yun... 20% or 25% ata...
ALL MAPLE NA SHELLS NITO.. GIBRALTAR HARDWARES.. NICE FINISH PA!!...
(and more GRRRRRRR!!!) hehehe.. :evil:
Pahabol... Hwag kana mag RAON men... kasi yung PRICE DUN at sa JB SAME LANG NAMAN... NAKA AIRCON KAPA AT NASA MALL hehehehe... GRRRR!!! bili na dude!!! hehehe
waaaa! gusto ko niyan! :-o
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: hen8 on March 17, 2010, 12:37:20 PM
UP ko nga toh. icontinue ko nalang basahin lahat-lahat maya maya! nice thread very informative.
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Post by: hen8 on March 20, 2010, 08:07:44 AM
hello mga master.
san po nakakabili ng mga sabian na cymbals po??
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Post by: cheezemonster08 on March 20, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
Pede ba lagyan ng pearl belt drive ang sonor double pedal
no.mostly,single chain ang sonor pedal na nagkalat ngayon. :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Brady on April 27, 2010, 09:23:48 PM
Hello sir
im looking for an upgrade to my ZBT cymbals. But I cant afford the K's and A's just yet. Are Stagg or Istanbul cymbals good? How do I go about picking the right cymbal as hand hammered aren't consistent.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: daleee on April 27, 2010, 09:38:51 PM
im looking for an upgrade to my ZBT cymbals. But I cant afford the K's and A's just yet. Are Stagg or Istanbul cymbals good? How do I go about picking the right cymbal as hand hammered aren't consistent.
i think they are good for the price, and as they say, they even level up with zildjian soundwise. use your ear, find what suits your genre or your preferences
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: toinkking on April 28, 2010, 08:40:49 AM
Ey guys! I'm new here. I'm planning to buy a drum set tho wala ako masyado alam sa ganito like yun parts niya, sizes, specs and so on.
I have some questions po sana matulungan niyo ako.
-Ok po ba ang Gretsch na drums? Sa quality niya? Ano pinagkaiba neto sa ibang leading brands ng drums like yun Pearl? I've heard of this kasi and sabi nila ok daw to.
-Ano mas ok sa Catalina Maple and Ash?
-Anong other option pa ba ang malapet na ren sa Gretsh? Fernando, Sonor or iba pa?
-And lastly, sa mga natanong kong packages ang cymbals daw na kasama eh yun Zildjian Planet Z 4 pc. Is this set of cymbals ok?
- any tips pa po? ano ba dapat ko malaman when buying a set?
Bale gagamitin ko lng yun set indoors tho gs2 ko na rin sanang set eh yun mailalabas mo na rin for ocassional shows/gigs. And as much as possible eh yung tatagal talaga na set kase I don't have intentions of buying me a second set. Tama na ang isa kaya gs2 ko lahat andon na sa bibilin ko. ü
Oh of this one counts na ren, I'm planning to learn jazz style of drum playing.
I'm really sorry for the noobie questions.
Thanks much!
Dude im a newbie too pero like ko lng sna ishare ung personal experience ko if u going to start buy a cheaper drums like fernandopag tipid ka sa budget like me for me kse nung nagstart ako fernando then i changed the skins to remo all of the toms tpos nun ska ako nag upgrade ng mga cymbals kse sa akin lng sa pananaw ko as a newbie magnda matutunan mo ung tamang pag tune ng drums at di dpat mamahalin masiado para pag stable ka na sa pag ddrums at sawa ka na sa drums mo nun ka mag upgrade for a better kits yun lng po ako kse maselan ako sa tune ng drums kya ayun pumuputok ung mga lugs ko nun hahahahaha pero i change it din nmn bumili agad ako bagong lugs hehehehehe kso now wla na ako pinas hehehe wla na din drums ko hahahahaha! apir!!! more power sa mga fellow drummers natin na pag nakakakita ng humihingi ng advice eh di nag dadalawang isip na mag advice kya natututo din ako sa mga advice nila tnx Up for this forum!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: toinkking on April 29, 2010, 06:12:43 AM
i think they are good for the price, and as they say, they even level up with zildjian soundwise. use your ear, find what suits your genre or your preferences
sa personal reference nyo ano mas gus2 nyong cymbals when it comes to sound MENIHL or SABIAN OR ZIDJAN OR Stagg???
for me HIhat ng stagg ung dbest ung DH ba un tpos sa ride for me Menihl then sa china i go for zidjan sa akin lng 2 ah
how bout sa inyo?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: hen8 on April 29, 2010, 06:59:09 AM
If so, do they let you test each cymbal to see if its to your liking?
Yes. :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Kumag on June 02, 2010, 06:38:20 PM
yo im planning to buy some thin crashes eh anong
brand is good ? 17" 15
boom stands na mura o kaya straight stand na parang fernando ( hehe un lang kaya budget eh bwahaha) san makakabili if ever?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on June 02, 2010, 06:44:09 PM
zildjian zht crash is a good one kung medyo gipit budget,or try stagg esp myras :-) sa jb may fernando boomstands.ok na yung generic na boomstands basta doublebraced
ok na yung generic na boomstands basta doublebraced
basta wag kakalimutang iinspect kung meron bang kasama na black thing (cybal sleeve ata tawag dun) sa lagayan ng cymbal para di mag keyhole... kung wala, bili ka nalang nung ganun sa JB... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on June 03, 2010, 07:04:44 PM
basta wag kakalimutang iinspect kung meron bang kasama na black thing (cybal sleeve ata tawag dun) sa lagayan ng cymbal para di mag keyhole... kung wala, bili ka nalang nung ganun sa JB... :-D
tama.magkano sa jb yung ganun??naputol yung sleeve kanina nung sa boom arm ko :?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Kumag on June 03, 2010, 07:21:44 PM
hmmm 5-8k aray hehe...thin lang hehe kung medium thin ako yan budget ko...is stagg good hindi ako heavy hitter thin crashes ang type ko lang pang accents and grooving
nagkakaproblema ako sa tunog ng stagg from rumors sabi nila tunog lata?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on June 04, 2010, 12:18:46 AM
hmmm 5-8k aray hehe...thin lang hehe kung medium thin ako yan budget ko...is stagg good hindi ako heavy hitter thin crashes ang type ko lang pang accents and grooving
nagkakaproblema ako sa tunog ng stagg from rumors sabi nila tunog lata?
sa stagg??depende sa pandinig mo yan,mayroon akong regular crash pero maganda ang projection IMO
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Kumag on June 04, 2010, 06:13:47 PM
hmmm anong stagg series yan cheeze thin ba check ko bukas kung sakali hehehe thanks
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Post by: cheezemonster08 on June 06, 2010, 06:17:35 PM
SH series sya.sorry late reply lagi hindi ko mabuksan PM eh :x
stagg Sh regular medium crash :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Kumag on June 07, 2010, 07:15:40 PM
salamat cheeze sa reply hehe... tingan ko sa raon hehe sabi nila daw dun eh...
guys hmmm san po dito sa part ng manila makakabili ng generic boom arms and multi clamps? bale ang kakabit ko thin crashes eh around 14" lang siya
nang-galing na ako sa Lazer eh d50 boom arm eh 550 pesos , tapos multi clamp 780 pesos ata un..
just need feedback hindi ako talaga taga dito eh dayuhan lang ako dito hehe thanks
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pauldavid_7 on June 08, 2010, 09:59:25 AM
May taong gusto makipagpalit sa samatya ride ko sa kanyang TAMA iron cobra HP900PS Power shifter po.. ask ko lang kung papayag ako.. at kung magkano ang benta nito pag second hand. single pedal lang siya. kasi kung ipapalit ko lang din ibebenta ko rin ang pedal sa isa pang ride. please help feedbacks is very much appreciated. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kino on June 08, 2010, 09:36:46 PM
May taong gusto makipagpalit sa samatya ride ko sa kanyang TAMA iron cobra HP900PS Power shifter po.. ask ko lang kung papayag ako.. at kung magkano ang benta nito pag second hand. single pedal lang siya. kasi kung ipapalit ko lang din ibebenta ko rin ang pedal sa isa pang ride. please help feedbacks is very much appreciated. :-D
Rare yang TAMA iron cobra HP900PS Power shifter, 2 in pedal, Tama na Pearl pa. :-D
I suggest you trade your ride for another ride, or sell the ride and get a new one. Go directly to your point of destination, if you don't need a pedal why trade your ride for a pedal? :wink:
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Post by: Kumag on June 16, 2010, 06:38:53 PM
hmmm meron bang dealer ng ganito dito sa pilipinas? brand? price? bale ito ay isang drum stick rubber tips, bale naghahanap ako para sumabay sa akin DIY rubber drum pad reason marami nagrereklamo sa ingay kaya un hehe
ito ang link http://www.percussionsource.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=280&prodid=258125 (http://www.percussionsource.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=280&prodid=258125)
Thanks
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Post by: Riff_6603 on June 17, 2010, 07:05:44 AM
hmmm meron bang dealer ng ganito dito sa pilipinas? brand? price? bale ito ay isang drum stick rubber tips, bale naghahanap ako para sumabay sa akin DIY rubber drum pad reason marami nagrereklamo sa ingay kaya un hehe
ito ang link http://www.percussionsource.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=280&prodid=258125 (http://www.percussionsource.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=280&prodid=258125)
Thanks
meron niyan way back dati sa lyric (festival mall branch) pero AFAIK walang locally available nowadays.. sayang nga naghahanap din ako niyan kung kailan wala na.. :|
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Kumag on June 17, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
haha mukhang Do it yourself nanaman ito hehe...thanks sa info
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Post by: mokie on June 22, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
is it true na, if you buy drums in JB music + cymbals(na hindi kasama sa package) mas malaki ang discount?or 25% lang ang maximum discount na maibibigay nila?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zero44 on June 24, 2010, 01:18:06 PM
mga drummer phelp naman :D
ano bang pagkakaiba ng Gibraltar Intruder II sa Intruder 9611 double pedal?
meron kasi akong Gibraltar Intruder II dito sa bahay.. ehh naka stock lang.. di na nagagamit..
i saw the price kasi of Intruder 9611 on JB music about 20k na sya..
parang plan ko kasi ibenta ung Gibraltar Intruder II ko e?
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Post by: maricanon on June 24, 2010, 11:35:56 PM
Mga sir ok lang po ba ung gretsch catalina club mod na drum set? ung sound ok lang ba?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: caju12 on August 11, 2010, 07:13:00 PM
I need some advice lang po.
Whats the best crash and hi-hats that I can buy if my budget is only around 5-7k?
Gusto ko kasi palitan cymbals ko eh. pero yan lang ang budget ko.ahahahahhh
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: dolfmen on August 11, 2010, 07:54:29 PM
5-7k each or for both?
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Post by: caju12 on August 11, 2010, 07:55:40 PM
For Both po.hehehe low budget ako eh
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Post by: dolfmen on August 11, 2010, 08:17:29 PM
3k for hats ang 4k pang crash, or 3.5-3.5 :-D kung sabian b8 or pag zildjian zbt.
OT: meron kong 14" sabian b8 hi hats. pm mo ko kung gusto mo or pakitext ako, :lol: 0920-9238491
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Post by: caju12 on August 11, 2010, 08:20:22 PM
Post ka naman ng Pics.. para makita ko kng ano condition.ahaha :D
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Post by: chengbang69 on August 12, 2010, 03:28:38 PM
ok kaya ito? planning to buy an electronic drums para makapalo sa gabi. need advice. thanks
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Post by: mr_strap on August 27, 2010, 07:26:57 PM
parang maganda yung roland TD-4
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Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on August 28, 2010, 11:28:20 PM
mga sir tanong lang po, bumili kasi ako ng drum set kahapon sa raon. yung Global lang. tig 9k sya. kulang kasi talaga budget. kaso wala talaga akong kasamang marunong tumingin ng drum set, and newbie naman ako. nagaaral pa lang mag drums. napansin ko kasi na yung snare at rack toms, parang hindi sya perfect circle. hindi naman gaano distorted yung itsura pero di nga perfect. normal lang ba yun? o baka may kinalaman kaya sa pag fit ko ng hoops at drum heads? hindi kaya hindi sya pumantay dahil may mali ako sa pagkabit? posible kaya yun?
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Post by: Riff_6603 on August 29, 2010, 02:02:15 AM
mga sir tanong lang po, bumili kasi ako ng drum set kahapon sa raon. yung Global lang. tig 9k sya. kulang kasi talaga budget. kaso wala talaga akong kasamang marunong tumingin ng drum set, and newbie naman ako. nagaaral pa lang mag drums. napansin ko kasi na yung snare at rack toms, parang hindi sya perfect circle. hindi naman gaano distorted yung itsura pero di nga perfect. normal lang ba yun? o baka may kinalaman kaya sa pag fit ko ng hoops at drum heads? hindi kaya hindi sya pumantay dahil may mali ako sa pagkabit? posible kaya yun?
got pics? kung hindi pantay yung drums ibalik mo! hindi normal yun bro.. :-o
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Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on August 29, 2010, 02:32:28 AM
^wala po akong cam eh. di ako sure kung dahil lang dun sa hoops. pero kung sakali mukang malabo ko na maibalik to. wala daw warranty sa drum set eh...=(
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Post by: Riff_6603 on August 29, 2010, 04:39:06 AM
^wala po akong cam eh. di ako sure kung dahil lang dun sa hoops. pero kung sakali mukang malabo ko na maibalik to. wala daw warranty sa drum set eh...=(
sayang naman. kadalasan kasi sa mga generic sets hindi ganun katibay ang pagkakagawa, eventualy nawawala sa korte yung mismong shells dahil hindi maganda yung materials na ginamit pati yung manufacturing process hindi din maayos.. :-(
- sana sa classifieds ka na lang bumili sulit pa.. :lol:
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Post by: ^Son_Gokou08 on August 29, 2010, 01:03:04 PM
^wala kasing pasok sa budget eh hehe. anyway, pampraktis lang naman and mura lang din naman sya....magpapalit na lang ako pag may budget na o nabitin na ako dito haha.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: trasher on August 31, 2010, 03:04:19 PM
Which is better: A Global, GTX, or an Entry Level Fernando Kit worth Php. 10,500.00 in Raon? Kasi parang parepareho lang sila. Yung 2 brand na nabanggit ko, mas mura lang ng konti.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Razorback16 on August 31, 2010, 06:36:49 PM
mga sir tanong lang po, bumili kasi ako ng drum set kahapon sa raon. yung Global lang. tig 9k sya. kulang kasi talaga budget. kaso wala talaga akong kasamang marunong tumingin ng drum set, and newbie naman ako. nagaaral pa lang mag drums. napansin ko kasi na yung snare at rack toms, parang hindi sya perfect circle. hindi naman gaano distorted yung itsura pero di nga perfect. normal lang ba yun? o baka may kinalaman kaya sa pag fit ko ng hoops at drum heads? hindi kaya hindi sya pumantay dahil may mali ako sa pagkabit? posible kaya yun?
Sad to say pero... Sakit sa ulo ang binili mo men!! soli mo nalang yan at bili ka ng matinong kit... yang yung mga kit na kahit anong gawin mo hindi gaganda ang tunog or hindi mo maitono ng maayos.. :|
Charge to experience nalang yan dude..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on September 01, 2010, 04:40:29 AM
Which is better: A Global, GTX, or an Entry Level Fernando Kit worth Php. 10,500.00 in Raon? Kasi parang parepareho lang sila. Yung 2 brand na nabanggit ko, mas mura lang ng konti.
try to compare the hardwares of those kits. bilangin mo yung mga lugs.dapat EVEN(6-8 lugs) nakakita ako ng global na kit lima lang yung lugs.pano mo ito-tono yun. nakakita ako ng GTX kit,single braced lahat ng harewares. :-P
personally i'd go to fernando kits. ok na din yung hardwares.remo pa minsan yung heads :-)
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Post by: trasher on September 01, 2010, 07:35:17 AM
try to compare the hardwares of those kits. bilangin mo yung mga lugs.dapat EVEN(6-8 lugs) nakakita ako ng global na kit lima lang yung lugs.pano mo ito-tono yun. nakakita ako ng GTX kit,single braced lahat ng harewares. :-P
personally i'd go to fernando kits. ok na din yung hardwares.remo pa minsan yung heads :-)
Thank's for the advice Sir.
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Post by: piloythedrummer on September 09, 2010, 12:56:23 PM
Hi to All;
Meron lang ako questions regarding drum tuning.......especially sa bass drum..
Panu ko magagawang punchy ung tunog pero di boomy....
i have already placed pillows... pero di ko parin makuha yung tunog....
any advise.....
salamat
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Post by: Riff_6603 on September 09, 2010, 03:06:38 PM
bout sa heads anu po mas prefer kasi stock heads (grtesch) parin po gamit ko.
Maraming salamat...
remo.
if you got lot's of money try evans and aquarian :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mendics on September 17, 2010, 10:57:33 AM
Mga sirs, first time buyer din ako, pero meron na kong existing drum set(binili ng dad ko para sakin), ang problema lng super deteriorated na ung condition nya, medjo hinde na comfortable i-play. Second hand fernando kasi, sira na ung ibang hardwears nya. Recommended ba i repair ko to and buy new parts or maginvest nlng ako para sa bagong drum set?
Ang plano ko kasi sana, since tight budget ko (student lng e), bumili nlng ako piece by piece ng mga drums, kunyari bass drum muna ngaun, next time na ung toms, hanggang makabuo ako ng magandang set (at para maganda mga yamaha, pearl ung brand). Para hinde masyadong mabigat, tapos makakapagpractice pa ko ng ganun. Ang huhulihin ko siguro ay ung mga cymbals. Kaso ang problem lng dun ang pangit ng mga sounds nung mga luma, titiiisin nlng siguro.
ano tingin nyo po? :|
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Post by: plitipiw40315 on September 17, 2010, 12:06:41 PM
Mga sirs, first time buyer din ako, pero meron na kong existing drum set(binili ng dad ko para sakin), ang problema lng super deteriorated na ung condition nya, medjo hinde na comfortable i-play. Second hand fernando kasi, sira na ung ibang hardwears nya. Recommended ba i repair ko to and buy new parts or maginvest nlng ako para sa bagong drum set?
Ang plano ko kasi sana, since tight budget ko (student lng e), bumili nlng ako piece by piece ng mga drums, kunyari bass drum muna ngaun, next time na ung toms, hanggang makabuo ako ng magandang set (at para maganda mga yamaha, pearl ung brand). Para hinde masyadong mabigat, tapos makakapagpractice pa ko ng ganun. Ang huhulihin ko siguro ay ung mga cymbals. Kaso ang problem lng dun ang pangit ng mga sounds nung mga luma, titiiisin nlng siguro.
ano tingin nyo po? :|
cymbals na unahin mo bro since ang drums natotono at kahit pano kahit gano pa ka-generic ang drums pwedeng pagandahin ang tunog nyan. ang cymbals once low end will always be a low end and cheap sounding.
sa drums mo bro hanggat kaya mong irestore/magawan ng paraan para lang maging playable yung kit mo eh gawin mo, basta ok pa yung shells nyan, mas mapapa-mahal ka in buying separate/tingi tingi na drumshells..
**pa-add nalang ng advice mga ser na mas expert.. thanks :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: plectrum on September 17, 2010, 10:50:49 PM
im planning to buy a new birch drumkit pero di ko maisip kung anong brand mas maganda gamitin tapos mura?
and question lang: dapat ba terno ung kahoy sa hoops at heads? or kung ano lang gusto ko? ex. birch + diecast + remo. or maple + flanged + evans?? or kung ano? newbie lang po hehe.
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Post by: Riff_6603 on September 18, 2010, 07:29:46 PM
im planning to buy a new birch drumkit pero di ko maisip kung anong brand mas maganda gamitin tapos mura?
and question lang: dapat ba terno ung kahoy sa hoops at heads? or kung ano lang gusto ko? ex. birch + diecast + remo. or maple + flanged + evans?? or kung ano? newbie lang po hehe.
actually depende sa sound na habol mo first of all ang main deciding factor sa pagbili ng drumset. knowing na birch yung prefered choice of wood mo and maybe maple as an alternative, anong specific sound ba yung hanap mo?
konting tips:
Hoops: Triple Flanged - more open and ringy Diecast - more focused and less sustain
Heads: Single Ply - much like an equivalent of triple flanged, more open and ringy Double Ply - much like an equivalent of diecast, more focused and less sustain
actually, it's all a matter of personal taste at the end of the day. decide first kung anong sound ang hanap mo, after which mas madali nang makapili ng set na pasok sa panlasa mo. for example, pwedeng TAMA Superstar (birch + diecast) or Gretsch Catalina (maple + triple flange) to name a few.. about head preferences naman, either remo or evans, it would depend again on the sound you're looking for. pwedeng mix and match (for example - diecast with single ply or triple flange with double ply) feel free to mix and match; experiment to your heart's desire until makuha mo yung sound na hinahanap mo! cheers! :wink:
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Post by: glasgow on October 01, 2010, 01:09:11 AM
how much does a roland td4 go around these days? wala sa website ng yupangco kasi. i paln to get one for the church. medyo maliit ang . place at volume sensitive ang mga tao . hehe. any advice? is there an electronic drum thread here? pa-direct na lang din po sirs. thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Letour on October 14, 2010, 08:23:08 AM
Hello to the drummers!
I have now entered your world. Just bought a Fernando starter kit fit for my 15 year old son. 5pc package included Planet Z hi hat and crash/ride.
Had my own kit 25 years ago (long gone now) and I had no trouble setting it up.
I would appreciate any tips in care and set up and of course little known secrets that you keep from the guitar players.
Soon I will be a lurker in your classifieds for baby steps upgrades.
Peace to all.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 14, 2010, 07:17:33 PM
I have now entered your world. Just bought a Fernando starter kit fit for my 15 year old son. 5pc package included Planet Z hi hat and crash/ride.
Had my own kit 25 years ago (long gone now) and I had no trouble setting it up.
I would appreciate any tips in care and set up and of course little known secrets that you keep from the guitar players.
Soon I will be a lurker in your classifieds for baby steps upgrades.
Peace to all.
Hi Letour! glad to see you here at pinoydrums! just feel free to ask away or PM us even for further questions, concerns or anything else that we may be able to help out with! for tips in care and setup, feel free to check these out! cheers man! :wink:
Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,12706.0.html
Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10184.0.html
Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,11719.0.html
Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10612.0.html
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Letour on October 15, 2010, 06:00:19 AM
Hi Letour! glad to see you here at pinoydrums! just feel free to ask away or PM us even for further questions, concerns or anything else that we may be able to help out with! for tips in care and setup, feel free to check these out! cheers man! :wink:
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Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10184.0.html
Snare Drum Tuning and Head Selection thread
Thanks for the welcome. I will definitely check out these threads. http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,11719.0.html
Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10612.0.html
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on October 15, 2010, 12:26:08 PM
Need Help... Looking for the "right" drum bag model and brand... Yung kasya mga 4-5 pairs ng sticks... May strap na parang shoulder bag... Then may extra pockets for sheet music and drum accessories... Any info on price range & store location is much appreciated... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vhinming on October 15, 2010, 12:40:27 PM
Need Help... Looking for the "right" drum bag model and brand... Yung kasya mga 4-5 pairs ng sticks... May strap na parang shoulder bag... Then may extra pockets for sheet music and drum accessories... Any info on price range & store location is much appreciated... :-D
Click "Bags & Cases"
http://www.thedrumshopmanila.com/
Ang hirap mamili sa Ahead & Revolution Bags :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on October 15, 2010, 01:11:30 PM
thanks sir vhin :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: yoeyoe16 on November 01, 2010, 10:20:35 PM
ako po balak bumili ng 2nd hand na Lazer na drumset tapos palitan ko na lang ung skins ng remo. ok lang ba un? sabi kasi ng iba effect daw ung pag-gamit ng original na skins sa local na drumset
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on November 01, 2010, 10:59:28 PM
ako po balak bumili ng 2nd hand na Lazer na drumset tapos palitan ko na lang ung skins ng remo. ok lang ba un? sabi kasi ng iba effect daw ung pag-gamit ng original na skins sa local na drumset
Basta pasado yung lahat ng parts... Ok lang na palitan yung heads... Basta "REMO" kunin mo ah... Magiging next na problema mo nalang... Tuning...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: yoeyoe16 on November 02, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
mahirap ba sya i-tune nyan?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vhinming on November 02, 2010, 08:58:16 PM
might be a big help to you,.. http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,206691.0.html
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Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: geremii on November 02, 2010, 11:07:21 PM
price ranges naman mga ser ng double peds sa raon at kung ano best shop to buy it. thanks!! :wink:
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: kym005 on November 23, 2010, 09:08:28 AM
mga sir magandang araw po...ahm dayo po ako rito.gitarista po ako..pero kailangan ko po nang tulong about drums.wala po akong alam dito eh.
yung kaibigan ko po kasi nagbabalak na bumili nang drums.bale beginner din po sya sa drums at medyo wala ring alam. may nagbebenta po kasi nang drums sa kanya na 2nd hand...Zildjian po tatak nang buong set.
may nakapagsabi po kasi sakin na Zildjian ay Cymbals lang ang mina-manufacture at walang drums na Zildjian..totoo po ba yun??if ever po eh di Fake yung binebenta sa kaibigan ko??
maraming salamat po mga sir drummers...:)
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: vhinming on November 23, 2010, 10:25:41 AM
mga sir magandang araw po...ahm dayo po ako rito.gitarista po ako..pero kailangan ko po nang tulong about drums.wala po akong alam dito eh.
yung kaibigan ko po kasi nagbabalak na bumili nang drums.bale beginner din po sya sa drums at medyo wala ring alam. may nagbebenta po kasi nang drums sa kanya na 2nd hand...Zildjian po tatak nang buong set.
may nakapagsabi po kasi sakin na Zildjian ay Cymbals lang ang mina-manufacture at walang drums na Zildjian..totoo po ba yun??if ever po eh di Fake yung binebenta sa kaibigan ko??
maraming salamat po mga sir drummers...:)
the best way sir is picturan mo po, depende po sa brand/condition/ and price,..
parang may nakita din kasi ako sa sulit noon,.. pinalitan ng Zildjian lahat ng emblem or logos ng bawat drum shells baka akala nung nakabili zildjian talaga ang brand ng drumkit,..
post nalang pics sir and yung pricing ng may ari,..
or simply tell us as detailed as possible :wink:
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on November 24, 2010, 09:25:34 PM
mga sir magandang araw po...ahm dayo po ako rito.gitarista po ako..pero kailangan ko po nang tulong about drums.wala po akong alam dito eh.
yung kaibigan ko po kasi nagbabalak na bumili nang drums.bale beginner din po sya sa drums at medyo wala ring alam. may nagbebenta po kasi nang drums sa kanya na 2nd hand...Zildjian po tatak nang buong set.
may nakapagsabi po kasi sakin na Zildjian ay Cymbals lang ang mina-manufacture at walang drums na Zildjian..totoo po ba yun??if ever po eh di Fake yung binebenta sa kaibigan ko??
maraming salamat po mga sir drummers...:)
Alam ko walang "Zildjian" na drumset eh... "Cymbals Set" oo, pero "DrumSet" ha???
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: kym005 on November 24, 2010, 10:29:37 PM
Alam ko walang "Zildjian" na drumset eh... "Cymbals Set" oo, pero "DrumSet" ha???
yun na nga po sir eh...sabi na mukang manloloko nga ....anyway salamat po mga drummer Bros.....♫rock on♫
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: mcdomeng16 on December 12, 2010, 03:27:57 PM
-saan po maganda bumili ng drumset [bukod sa RAON] -10k lang po ang budget ko. tapat na po yun. -sana yung kumpleto na yung may cymbals na [kahit stock yung cymbals basta aganda ang tunog] -kahit 2nd hand pwede basta good condition at maganda ang sound quality -metro manila po ang place ko -kung may offer kayo message niyo lang ako d2 or sa e-maill address ko kasama ng picture [mcdomeng16@yahoo.com] -SURE BUYER po ako. yun po kasi ang gusto kong christmas gift ko sa sarili ko.hehe -kung may mag offer, ok po sakin na ako ang mag pick-up kahit saan basta Metro Manila [CAMANAVA preferred]
maraming salamat mg sir..! happy holidays!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Cyru on December 18, 2010, 03:14:05 PM
Sir saan po nakakabili ng mga generic na lugs para toms and snare at nasa magkano? Kailangan ko din po ng bracket para sa rack tom, yung nagiipit sa tom holder nabarag na kasi. Generic lang po kailangan ko yung pinakamura, generic lang kasi yung drumset ko dito na aayusin. Quezon City area ako, salamat mga master!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: knifeparty on December 18, 2010, 06:39:32 PM
anyone here selling a 20" k custom dark ride?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: knifeparty on December 18, 2010, 06:43:22 PM
anyone here selling a 20" k custom dark crash
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on December 21, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
Sir saan po nakakabili ng mga generic na lugs para toms and snare at nasa magkano? Kailangan ko din po ng bracket para sa rack tom, yung nagiipit sa tom holder nabarag na kasi. Generic lang po kailangan ko yung pinakamura, generic lang kasi yung drumset ko dito na aayusin. Quezon City area ako, salamat mga master!
hmmmm gusto ko lng sana mg inquire... ano magandang entry level na hihats? ung around 4k lng.. un lng budget ko eh.ehehehehe :)
at magtanong lng.. anong stores sa philippines ang dealer ng stagg and wuhan na cymbals? thank you :)
wuhan = lazer outlets stagg = SPL Audio - Raon,Quiapo / The Music Source - Alimall,Cubao / Hifi Lounge - Festival Mall,Alabang
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 06, 2011, 02:21:53 PM
May balak akong biling gear pero sa sobrang gulat ko magkaiba ang presyo ng parehong Music Store at mas mura pa sa isa ng halos 40%.
OT; Bakit magkaka-iba ang presyo ng JB Music sa iba't ibang branches nila? Tulad sa JB Music Trinoma at SM North. May mga items na mas mura sa SM North compared sa Trinoma and vice versa. Minsan naman sobrang mura sa JB Trinoma kesa sa SM North. Tas ganun din iba nanaman din ang presyo sa Manila Music at Salongga Music. Knowing na iisang company lang sila but their prices vary depending on what branch. Minsan tuloy kailangan ko pang puntahan ang iba't ibang branch para malaman kung san mas makakatipid. :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on January 06, 2011, 05:31:23 PM
May balak akong biling gear pero sa sobrang gulat ko magkaiba ang presyo ng parehong Music Store at mas mura pa sa isa ng halos 40%.
OT; Bakit magkaka-iba ang presyo ng JB Music sa iba't ibang branches nila? Tulad sa JB Music Trinoma at SM North. May mga items na mas mura sa SM North compared sa Trinoma and vice versa. Minsan naman sobrang mura sa JB Trinoma kesa sa SM North. Tas ganun din iba nanaman din ang presyo sa Manila Music at Salongga Music. Knowing na iisang company lang sila but their prices vary depending on what branch. Minsan tuloy kailangan ko pang puntahan ang iba't ibang branch para malaman kung san mas makakatipid. :lol:
TAMA! mas mura yung mangini ko nung bumili ako sa sm north dati kesa sa presyo ng jb trinoma! :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: omnicloud7 on January 07, 2011, 12:55:59 AM
Hindi ko nga rin gets eh. Nag-inquire ako ng Gibraltar 6611 DB sa JB last month. Sa JB-ATC, 7,150php ang sale price tapos hanggang Jan16 daw yung Sale nila. Pagpunta ko sa JB-Southmall, 8.8k daw ang sale price, tapos hanggang Dec31 lang yung sale! Ba't kaya ganun. :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 07, 2011, 01:29:01 AM
Hindi ko nga rin gets eh. Nag-inquire ako ng Gibraltar 6611 DB sa JB last month. Sa JB-ATC, 7,150php ang sale price tapos hanggang Jan16 daw yung Sale nila. Pagpunta ko sa JB-Southmall, 8.8k daw ang sale price, tapos hanggang Dec31 lang yung sale! Ba't kaya ganun. :lol:
Tol,kaya madalas ako mag "window shopping" eh... Nung September (or October ata yun) pumunta din ako sa JB SM North... Price ng Gibraltar 6611 DB, 6,450... Tapos sumunod na mga months... NASA 7+ NA... Wew... Christmas Sale??? I don't think so...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: killikillers on January 07, 2011, 01:41:53 AM
Tol,kaya madalas ako mag "window shopping" eh... Nung September (or October ata yun) pumunta din ako sa JB SM North... Price ng Gibraltar 6611 DB, 6,450... Tapos sumunod na mga months... NASA 7+ NA... Wew... Christmas Sale??? I don't think so...
afaik, himig lakas yung october sale nila... yun ata yung anniversary sale ng JB music stores
mas malaki daw yung discount nung himig lakas compared sa christmas sale
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: killikillers on January 07, 2011, 01:43:59 AM
OT; Bakit magkaka-iba ang presyo ng JB Music sa iba't ibang branches nila? Tulad sa JB Music Trinoma at SM North. May mga items na mas mura sa SM North compared sa Trinoma and vice versa. Minsan naman sobrang mura sa JB Trinoma kesa sa SM North. Tas ganun din iba nanaman din ang presyo sa Manila Music at Salongga Music. Knowing na iisang company lang sila but their prices vary depending on what branch. Minsan tuloy kailangan ko pang puntahan ang iba't ibang branch para malaman kung san mas makakatipid. :lol:
yun nga eh, lalo na dun sa salongga sa may RAON?!
ambait pa nung nagbabantay tapos sinasabi niya talaga yung lowest price na makukuha mo yung item
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 07, 2011, 07:03:42 AM
Himig Lakas ay ang October Sale ng JB Music at iba pa po ang Christmas Sale. Tama rin po na mas malaki ang discount kapag Himig Lakas na. Christmas Sale nila last year 2010 started nung Nov.16,2010. Hanggang Jan.16,2011 na lang sila.
May nakita ata akong thread dito minsan na "Bakit laging sale sa JB Music?". Please correct me if I am wrong, I can't recall. So ayun na nga, bakit nga ba laging sale sa JB Music at bakit iba iba ang presyo nito sa iba't ibang branch?
Di ko pa tuloy mabili yung gear na gusto kong kunin, nagbabakasakali na baka mas mura nanaman dun sa isang branch pa. :lol:
Bakit laging Sale sa JB Music, twing kelan nagsisimula ang Sale nila, at bakit iba iba ang mga presyo ng items nila sa iba't ibang branch?
Super OT na tayo dito mga kapatid! Pasensya na po kayo mga sir mods, wag niyo sana i-lock tong thread. Sorry..Last na po ito. Pasensya na
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 07, 2011, 04:04:41 PM
Bakit laging Sale sa JB Music,twing kelan nagsisimula ang Sale nila, at bakit iba iba ang mga presyo ng items nila sa iba't ibang branch?
Now that's the REAL question!!! :-D I've always wanted to "TRY & BUY" pedals on JB... :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: electrecute on January 08, 2011, 02:04:26 PM
San po nkakabili ng Practice pad? maliban po sa lazer ugn mura, or kung pde khit 2nd hand
850 po kasi sa lazer eh, kung meron sana mas lower price
or kung may tutorials po panu gmwa ng homemade practice pad, ung effectice din po ung rebounce ng sticks
slmat po ^^
- no text speak please! please! please! - mod :evil:
baka makatulong ito:
Practice Pad thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,17021.0.html
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on January 12, 2011, 03:14:31 PM
Not really a first time buyer, but its the first time, after 10 years, I am making an educated choice. Old kit is a 5 pcs Genesis kit from Perfect Pitch. somebody who borrowed it changed skins to remo I think. but drums got flooded and hardware a bit rusted.
On ZBT cymbals, happy with them. Bought Pearl Elims dbl pedals.
Wifey wants to buy me a new set for my Bday. Budget 25-30k, for kit only. Hiya ako eh kaya limit to that.
What set should I buy for a small 25sqm concrete enclosed basement? We play 90's music, the likes of the goo goo dolls, gin blossoms, new radicals, eheads, Incubus, RHCP, Cake, Weezer, Black Crowes, the like.
Thanks! I love this forum! I have learned a lot. Now back to work...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 12, 2011, 07:19:14 PM
Not really a first time buyer, but its the first time, after 10 years, I am making an educated choice. Old kit is a 5 pcs Genesis kit from Perfect Pitch. somebody who borrowed it changed skins to remo I think. but drums got flooded and hardware a bit rusted.
On ZBT cymbals, happy with them. Bought Pearl Elims dbl pedals.
Wifey wants to buy me a new set for my Bday. Budget 25-30k, for kit only. Hiya ako eh kaya limit to that.
What set should I buy for a small 25sqm concrete enclosed basement? We play 90's music, the likes of the goo goo dolls, gin blossoms, new radicals, eheads, Incubus, RHCP, Cake, Weezer, Black Crowes, the like.
Thanks! I love this forum! I have learned a lot. Now back to work...
Welcome to this thread sir Chipstah. I would suggest you try Gretsch Catalina Maple 5pc. kit if you only prefer a single Floor Tom. It's much cheaper than the other model of Catalina Maple which has an extra Floor Tom of different size and depth that makes it a 6pc kit. Another choice, if you're only looking for a kit without cymbals, try the Yamaha Gig Maker. It's good enough for the 90's music. It's available in any Perfect Pitch or Yamaha Music Stores. It was once my choice but then I still want Gretsch Drums as my ultimate choice. Good luck!
Happy Drumming!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on January 13, 2011, 12:00:16 PM
Thanks musicianurse28! Great help.
I was also thinking, that it should not be that loud a set, so fusion, pero rock tugtog namin. Anyway, I did not know Gretch Catalina Maple had a 5 pc set. Pasok ba sa 25k?
How about Tama? May 25k ba?
Pearl Exports, may 25k ba?
These are the only options I know. Any more suggestions on kits na pang jamming lang sa basement, but with good sound and the least requirement for maintenance? Di marunong mag tono eh.
Thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on January 13, 2011, 03:35:47 PM
Will be visiting JB, Yamaha/Perfect Pitch, and Lyric tonight at Parksquare, to pick my new set. Hope for more advise before then so I can make a more educated choice this time.
Thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 13, 2011, 03:59:00 PM
Will be visiting JB, Yamaha/Perfect Pitch, and Lyric tonight at Parksquare, to pick my new set. Hope for more advise before then so I can make a more educated choice this time.
Thanks!
Sale on selected items ang Lyric ngayon tol... Dun ka nalang kumuha ng accessories mo... Or kung san mas mura... hahaha...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 13, 2011, 07:07:40 PM
I was also thinking, that it should not be that loud a set, so fusion, pero rock tugtog namin. Anyway, I did not know Gretch Catalina Maple had a 5 pc set. Pasok ba sa 25k?
How about Tama? May 25k ba?
Pearl Exports, may 25k ba?
These are the only options I know. Any more suggestions on kits na pang jamming lang sa basement, but with good sound and the least requirement for maintenance? Di marunong mag tono eh.
Thanks!
Sir, a fusion kit is ok with Rock genre. Look at the then band Bamboo, they play Rock and Fusion Jazz but the kit Vic Mercado was using is a fusion kit. I was inspired to have a fusion kit because of them especially by Vic.
Yes there is a 5pc kit of Gretsch Catalina Maple, which I believe was in 42k sale till January 16 only. Not bad for a mid to high end drum kit. I'm not really familiar with the Tama and Pearl kits because I'm kinda biased when it comes to kits and my top choice is Gretsch.
If for jamming and hobby purpose only, Gretsch Catalina Ash and Gretsch Catalina Maple are my choice. Pearl Target Series are good enough. Also Sonor Force 2005 is ok. Ludwig kit Accent series is also a good choice. All of these are available in any JB Music stores. JB's Christmas Sale is only till January 16. These kits are in 25-40% SALE! Try to catch up! But for me the best choice is Gretsch! :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 13, 2011, 07:13:08 PM
Will be visiting JB, Yamaha/Perfect Pitch, and Lyric tonight at Parksquare, to pick my new set. Hope for more advise before then so I can make a more educated choice this time.
Thanks!
Visit all the stores nearby and start with the "budget wise" move. Next is "let your heart decide". This advice came from one of my Filipino drummer idol sir Michael Alba or Mike Alba. Good luck with the search! I'll be waiting for your post in the "New Gears" thread and the "Let's see those kits" thread.
Happy drumming!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on January 13, 2011, 10:25:56 PM
and the winner is...
Gretsch Caatalina Maple 5pcs Fusion Kit... cherry red... to be delivered and tuned on Saturday!
Did not see the set, kasi nasa warehouse... pag may sira naman, pwede di iaccept.
Thanks for all the help!!!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 14, 2011, 12:35:42 AM
Sir, a fusion kit is ok with Rock genre. Look at the then band Bamboo, they play Rock and Fusion Jazz but the kit Vic Mercado was using is a fusion kit. I was inspired to have a fusion kit because of them especially by Vic.
APIR TOL!!! Fusion kit rocks... :-D Kahit napapaiyak ako sa details mo... Naalala ko ang mga palong Vic Mercado... AYOS LANG, APIR ULIT!!! :-D
APIR TOL!!! Fusion kit rocks... :-D Kahit napapaiyak ako sa details mo... Naalala ko ang mga palong Vic Mercado... AYOS LANG, APIR ULIT!!! :-D
I'm an avid fan of Vic Mercado same as sir musicianurse28 kaya fusion kit din hanap ko eh... :wink:
Hindi tayo avid fan sir pedaldeaf3, tayo'y mga HARDCORE FAN!!! :-D
The best talaga mga fusion kits. :wink: You'll never go wrong with it. At sir kung sakaling nakahanap ka na ng fusion kit na gusto mong bilin, let's go for Gretsch! hehe :lol: Super biased talaga sa Gretsch eh.hehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 14, 2011, 05:29:57 PM
Hindi tayo avid fan sir pedaldeaf3, tayo'y mga HARDCORE FAN!!! :-D The best talaga mga fusion kits. :wink: You'll never go wrong with it. At sir kung sakaling nakahanap ka na ng fusion kit na gusto mong bilin, let's go for Gretsch! hehe :lol: Super biased talaga sa Gretsch eh.hehe
HAHAHA... Hardcore nga!!! Dati trip na trip ko Tama drums... Ngayon parang Gretsch na gusto ko... Gibraltar pala "lahat" ng hardware eh... Good Hardware for a Hardcore fan... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: carleywarley on January 15, 2011, 02:47:21 PM
I'm thinking about getting the Gibraltar 6611db later at JB. Kasi last day ata ng sale nila ngayon. Mura na ba ang 7k na price para diyan? Hindi ko kasi alam kung ano ang mura at mahal when it comes to hardware.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 15, 2011, 06:24:43 PM
I'm thinking about getting the Gibraltar 6611db later at JB. Kasi last day ata ng sale nila ngayon. Mura na ba ang 7k na price para diyan? Hindi ko kasi alam kung ano ang mura at mahal when it comes to hardware.
Dati nung pumunta ako... (Mga November ata yun or September) Nasa 6.4k ang Gibraltar nila ah... Nakaka loko talaga prices... Parang gas,taas-baba, taas-baba...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 15, 2011, 06:48:53 PM
I'm thinking about getting the Gibraltar 6611db later at JB. Kasi last day ata ng sale nila ngayon. Mura na ba ang 7k na price para diyan? Hindi ko kasi alam kung ano ang mura at mahal when it comes to hardware.
Last day of Christmas Sale in JB Music is tomorrow, Jan.16. Mura na yang 7,688 SALE nila. Usually Double Pedals starts around 9k for entry levels. Kahit pano tipid na rin yan.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: aroma5A on January 15, 2011, 07:49:56 PM
Hello sirs! Newbie drummer lang po ako. I've only been playing for a little over a year and I want to buy some good sounding cymbals (stock pa rin kasi ginagamit ko. hehe). Nagsisimula pa lang po akong mag-ipon, pero gusto ko na po sanang itanong kung anong cymbals ang maganda na i-target ko? Hehe. Thanks in advance. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 15, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
Hello sirs! Newbie drummer lang po ako. I've only been playing for a little over a year and I want to buy some good sounding cymbals (stock pa rin kasi ginagamit ko. hehe). Nagsisimula pa lang po akong mag-ipon, pero gusto ko na po sanang itanong kung anong cymbals ang maganda na i-target ko? Hehe. Thanks in advance. :-D
For beginners na gusto kahit pano eh mas "angat" naman sa mga stock cymbals ng kit, try Zildjian ZBT line. Naniniwala kasi ako na pag talagang mahusay na at talaga namang marunong na, dun na lang mag-invest sa mga high end types of Cymbals. Magandang high end ang mga Zildjian A Customs, A, K Customs, K. Dameng choices. You'll never go wrong with it. :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: aroma5A on January 15, 2011, 08:16:36 PM
thanks for the reply! :-) How about Sabian B8's? entry level po ba yun? if yes, sa opinion nyo po ba, anong mas okay (regarding the sound and the price)? :-D
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Post by: musicianurse28 on January 15, 2011, 08:20:17 PM
thanks for the reply! :-) How about Sabian B8's? entry level po ba yun? if yes, sa opinion nyo po ba, anong mas okay (regarding the sound and the price)? :-D
Yes sir, entry level ang B8. Regarding the sound mas ok ang B8. About the price naman sakto lang. Goodluck!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: aroma5A on January 15, 2011, 08:25:50 PM
Last day of Christmas Sale in JB Music is tomorrow, Jan.16. Mura na yang 7,688 SALE nila. Usually Double Pedals starts around 9k for entry levels. Kahit pano tipid na rin yan.
Tanong ko lang,ano ba difference between single and double chain? Ang gamit ko kasi ngayon eh single pedal na 5611. Medyo hindi maganda yung control niya para sakin.
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Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 16, 2011, 12:30:39 PM
para saken mas wobbly yung single chain sa double chain
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Post by: Drummer_NoName on February 27, 2011, 08:03:06 PM
Hi, planning to buy a set soon this march (kasi sabi nung salesman may sale daw sa jb). 25 k po ang budget. nakabili na ako ng zbt 4pc set. kea ung 25k po para nlng sa drums w/hardware po. ano kaya ang magandang bilin? at saan maganda bumili para good buy na talaga. thanks! :roll:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on February 27, 2011, 08:18:54 PM
Hi, planning to buy a set soon this march (kasi sabi nung salesman may sale daw sa jb). 25 k po ang budget. nakabili na ako ng zbt 3pc set. kea ung 25k po para nlng sa drums w/hardware po. ano kaya ang magandang bilin? at saan maganda bumili para good buy na talaga. thanks! :roll:
gaya ng paulit ulit ko pong sinasabi,,,Gretsch Drums for the win!!! :-D JB Music sir good buy talaga..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Drummer_NoName on February 27, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
pasok ba sa 25? nagpunta ko kanina nsa 36k ung catalina maple nila :oops:
sir I would suggest kung hindi naman po kayo nagmamadali eh mag ipon na lang po muna kayo ulit.. konti na lang naman po yan...goodluck sir! :-)
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Post by: Drummer_NoName on February 27, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
Sir Chipstah, magkano po bili nio sa set niyo? ganyan din po sana kunin ko. salamat!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on February 28, 2011, 05:48:33 PM
Got it for 37k. No cymbals. 5pcs set only, not the 6pcs set.
I love the set! Highly recommended.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Drummer_NoName on March 01, 2011, 04:42:09 PM
37k! :-o
Salamat sa info sir, aabangan ko na lang mag sale talaga. baka mas mura ko siya makuha.
BTW, may sale na daw ang jb
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: x_taxi on March 02, 2011, 07:37:56 PM
hi,
sa mga locally available e-drums, which would you guys recommend => td4k vs td9 (snare mesh only model) vs dtxpress iv special?
does the price diff between td4k vs td9 justify the the added features of the td9? also, do the cymbals and hihat of the dtxpress make a big diff as to response and playability?
thanks! \m/
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mokie on March 15, 2011, 10:30:03 PM
^x_taxi, i got a td9kx sir, if gusto mo ng maraming features sa module, syempre mas angat ang td9k compared sa td4k, pero depende na rin po if kung gusto mong maraming kit samples,then go for td9. pero sabi nga nila, hindi naman yun lahat magagamit mo and you can adjust naman yung tuning ng edrum para makuha yung gusto niyong sound. basta td4k ok na rin naman, un nga ang first choice ko but td9kx din sa huli ang bagsak ko. :-D try mo mag td4kx or td9kx sir, dahil mesh pads.. :-D
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Post by: x_taxi on March 19, 2011, 09:22:59 AM
thanks for the suggestions dude! should try out those td9 mesh pads. i still have no preference as to rubber vs mesh, but mostly everyone at vdrums seems to like the mesh (it being roland forum notwithstanding). but i'm very much tempted by the yamaha cymbals and "real" hats pedal!
will be moving in a few months, and the village doesn't take kindly to noisy neighbors. kahit tahol lang ng aso, bibisita na yun guard. so as much as i'd like an acoustic kit (like the tama superstar fusion kit!), i have no choice but to go for edrums.
^x_taxi, i got a td9kx sir, if gusto mo ng maraming features sa module, syempre mas angat ang td9k compared sa td4k, pero depende na rin po if kung gusto mong maraming kit samples,then go for td9. pero sabi nga nila, hindi naman yun lahat magagamit mo and you can adjust naman yung tuning ng edrum para makuha yung gusto niyong sound. basta td4k ok na rin naman, un nga ang first choice ko but td9kx din sa huli ang bagsak ko. :-D try mo mag td4kx or td9kx sir, dahil mesh pads.. :-D
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Post by: mokie on March 19, 2011, 11:29:50 PM
x_taxi - it's your choice bro. maybe it is better na matry mo muna yung difference ng model na gusto mo and syempre yung feel ng rubber pads and mesh pads. :-)
same lang tayo ng reason bro, pero napapaisip ako kung ibebenta ko na lang yung edrums ko and switch back to acoustic drums, pero baka malabo pa yun sa ngayon. bawal maingay eh.. :lol:
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Post by: x_taxi on April 25, 2011, 04:33:19 PM
thanks bro! appreciate the tips.
btw, there's a chance i can have an acoustic set, if the spare room i'll use for the studio will be "acoustically" quiet from outside. so i'm thinkin if i should get either: tama superstar fusion kit vs. yamaha stage custom. \m/
for cymbals, i'm pretty much set on paiste alphas.
x_taxi - it's your choice bro. maybe it is better na matry mo muna yung difference ng model na gusto mo and syempre yung feel ng rubber pads and mesh pads. :-)
same lang tayo ng reason bro, pero napapaisip ako kung ibebenta ko na lang yung edrums ko and switch back to acoustic drums, pero baka malabo pa yun sa ngayon. bawal maingay eh.. :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on April 25, 2011, 07:51:54 PM
get mesh heads medyo irritating kasi yung feeling na kumakapit yung sticks sa rubber pads
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Post by: nicewhun on May 16, 2011, 10:36:23 PM
san po mkakabili ng gretch catalina maple? and its price? , pati paiste po ng cymbals
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Post by: musicianurse28 on May 16, 2011, 11:28:19 PM
san po mkakabili ng gretch catalina maple? and its price? , pati paiste po ng cymbals
JB Music Stores, Salonga Music Cubao, and Manila Music.. Sila local dealer ng Gretsch and Gibraltar Products.. Mga nasa 55+ to 60+ na ang Catalina Maple ngayon.. May discount pa ata yung iba..
Paiste naman sa Audiophile dun sa Ali Mall.. Di ko lang sure mga prices ngayon..
Welcome to Pinoydrums nicewhun!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: dreendroid on May 16, 2011, 11:48:04 PM
I personally suggest a very good kit as a whole. Kahit na starter ang gagamit, every drummer deserves some good drums. Start off with a very awesome (or pricey :-o) drum kit. Yung mga dream kits talaga...kahit na beginner sige lang saksak lang ng kayang at gustong cymbals. One way or another mappaid off rin naman yan after some time. Gumaling man or tinigil.
Dati kasi my dad bought me a generic kit. Every month na lang may nasisiraan (cymbals, pedals, etc.) After a year I got an electronic kit (Roland HD-1) pero nagsawa rin dahil napakalimited ng cymbals, volume, and ung kit na rin as a whole. -After 2 years, sold my Roland, and got a true kit (my signature below)
Complicated and rough.....hindi ko lang maexpress tlga. hehe :-D
I just want for every drummer to start off with some real 8-) drums. Kung budgeted, then go for those Pearl Targets, or some TAMA Imperialstars and with some pAiSTe PSTs or those Planet Z Zildjians. Lalo niyo maeexperience talaga ang drumming at it's finest :wink:
Kapag drummer talaga....budget ang kalaban. But hey, it's a very awesome instrument :roll: just a little $$$
Go out there and start drumming. peace :mrgreen:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mannyjon on June 07, 2011, 08:45:03 PM
good day. newbie po sa drum set. tanong ko lang po kung alin ang mas ok, yung lazer drumset po ba na 12,500 from lazer music store or yung fernando na 18,500 ng jb music store. balak ko kasi bumili pag nagka-budget na. thanks
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: joss on June 08, 2011, 10:20:54 AM
bro antayin mo nalang mgsale ulit sa jb, un drumkit PEARL Target Series ung junior nun 17K lng, un standard 24k.. madalas naman mgsale sa JB.
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Post by: mannyjon on June 08, 2011, 12:02:55 PM
junior drumkit? diba sir maliit lang kapag junior kit? pambata yun diba? correct me if i'm wrong. wala kasi ako alam sa drumset. thanks sa reply.
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Post by: shinobi_hand on June 08, 2011, 03:57:11 PM
Save a little more money if you're planning on drumming for a long time. Entry level kits are usually harder to set, tune, and play in general than a mid level kit. a good set would be around 30k depending on brand and specs. I own a lazer set entry level and it lasted me until now but I cut the shell and fixed the bearing edges. the fernando kits look a little more promising. The pearl target series would probably a step above. But save a little more would be my advice. and look around online for drum sets.
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Post by: Chipstah on July 09, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
I have been enjoying my new kit for a while (catalina maple 5 pcs.). Thinking of upgrading my cymbals from zbt's to higher kinds of sets. Only requirement is that they are quieter, since we only play in a small concrete walled basement with lots of echo. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Post by: peeves24 on July 10, 2011, 06:26:17 AM
buy small and thin/fast cymbals...
i personally use these and they are quite quiet enough on very small rooms like yours and mine: 12" remix hihats (or hanap ka nung avedis special recording hats, meron din namang mga thin hihats na 14") armand 16 thin crash avedis 14 fast crash k custom 20 dark ride (pwede rin avedis 20 sweet ride/k light 20 preaged dry ride)
to remove the room "echo" or reverb, lagay ka lang ng mga kumot sa walls.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on July 10, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Thanks. We have done some acoustic treatments to the wall already to minimize echoes but zbt's are naturally loud. Starting off with the hats, where would be the best place to buy smaller and thinner hats? Any preferred brand? Thanks!
Title: Tips of buying a second hand drum set...
Post by: XrsJay on July 17, 2011, 01:20:53 PM
First of all im not a drummer and im not planning to be one. But my dad wants to buy a set for a project that his making (somekinda music studio/practice room) anyone there can share some tips for buying a second hand drum set ..
thanks for replies..
Title: Re: Tips of buying a second hand drum set...
Post by: marko21 on July 17, 2011, 02:05:10 PM
check mo lang hardware :-)
Title: Re: Tips of buying a second hand drum set...
Post by: musicianurse28 on July 17, 2011, 03:28:52 PM
1. Know the brand and model of that second hand drum set.. 2. Browse some reviews of it online.. It would help you find out what you really want.. 3. Check its hardwares, screws, drum parts and so on.. Just check everything.. And make sure that it will do its job accordingly.. 4. If you're going to buy a second hand online, make sure the seller is not a bastard.. Some would take advantage of you if they found out that they can manipulate you.. Sad to say it happened multiple times already not just here in Pinoydrums but in other online selling sites as well.. Just know the seller first.. Some tips would be, check their accounts, see their transactions, check the comments posted by their clients, just make sure they are trustworthy.. 5. Make sure that the price is reasonable enough, knowing the fact that it is a second hand kit..
Good luck!
Title: Sonor 507 vs. Pearl Target Jr.
Post by: godisjudge on July 21, 2011, 12:28:45 PM
Hi Philmusic, I'm helping my cousin pick his kit, Might as well ask you guys w/c is better. :-D For Home/Room use, small space allocation. Budget constraints of 20k. Both have shell sizes of 18bass,10 and 12 tom,14 floor tom
Pearl Target Jr. -Discounted price @ 18320 -Available in Black,White or Wine Red - Snare is 13x5 - Looks is average simple and far from other Pearl drum sets.
Sonor 507 (Studio Kit not sure) -Sale price @ 19340 -Available in Wine red only -Snare is 14x 5.5 -Looks is not that different from higher models.
Any other pros and cons(Shells,hardwares etc.) for both items are welcome. TIA
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Post by: sandythedrummer on July 21, 2011, 12:36:14 PM
Recommend the Pearl Target. My student bought one. I like the snare and components are sturdy.
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Post by: narz on July 21, 2011, 12:45:59 PM
i like sonor 507
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Post by: pualux on July 21, 2011, 12:48:06 PM
san ka bibili ng pearl target? ang mura ah, @ 18k, nakita ko kasi yung sale price 24k(jbmusic)
ai [grape], Jr. nga pala hahaha disregard niyo nalang comment ko :D
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Post by: revelaxionz09 on July 21, 2011, 01:04:44 PM
ano ba shells ng sonor 507? yung pearl target basswood ang shells, ok naman tunog lalo na pag napalitan ng magandang heads like remo's or evans. at yung hardware ok din makapal at mukhang matibay at magtatagal.
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Post by: godisjudge on July 21, 2011, 01:15:44 PM
Thanks sa mga nagcomment.
@revelationz09: 9 Layer basswood din yung Sonor 507 then naka remo heads na rin, not sure what model though.
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Post by: narz on July 21, 2011, 01:31:57 PM
you can also check mapex voyager :D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: izrael17 on July 24, 2011, 08:26:10 AM
hi.first time ko po dito sa philmusic and first time buyer po ng drumset.
tanong ko lang po kung ano pong masasabi nio sa offer ngaun ng JB music na Pearl Target series na may kasamang Zildjian Planet Z 4 cymbal pack at Fernando cymbal stand w/ boom @ Php 32,141.00 .. ok na po ba ung price nia for the set? For practice lang naman sa bahay.
salamat :-D
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Post by: dreendroid on July 24, 2011, 11:58:47 AM
hi.first time ko po dito sa philmusic and first time buyer po ng drumset.
tanong ko lang po kung ano pong masasabi nio sa offer ngaun ng JB music na Pearl Target series na may kasamang Zildjian Planet Z 4 cymbal pack at Fernando cymbal stand w/ boom @ Php 32,141.00 .. ok na po ba ung price nia for the set? For practice lang naman sa bahay.
salamat :-D
Wow bro . . .for me medyo pricey na for that price. I suggest na maghintay ka ng kapaskuhan yang 32k na yan maging 20 or 24 na lang. hehe :wink:
Or kung atat tlga, pwede na yan. and concern ko lang bakit naman kaya Fernando ang stands :-o
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kevpal on July 25, 2011, 10:19:14 AM
I'm thinking about buying a Tama speedcobra twin pedal @ audiophile, but i'm in the province so i asked a friend in manila to contact the store yesterday to inquire how much the pedal is..he was told that the speedcobra costs 16,550 and the iron cobra at around 18k+. i was thinking that the speedcobra is an upgrade to the ICs so I wasnt expecting that it will be a lot cheaper than the ICs. I'm asking you guys if I was misformed giving me the wrong price or was it really the exact price of the speedcobra here in RP? I just checked it at an online store and it shows that the SC is more expensive than the ICs. Is anyone there who got the Speedcobras? How much did you get for it? Need help. Thanks a lot! :-D
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Post by: godisjudge on July 25, 2011, 11:16:18 AM
@israel17: Pearl Target costs around 24k sale price (Not handog sale price though). Try to get yung w/o package. Then,hanap ka nalang ng cymbals sa classifieds. :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on July 29, 2011, 09:48:58 AM
Need advise on which of my options to pick. I need quiet cymbals, and are willing to start with hats. Its for our small concrete walled basement where our band plays. My present ZBTs overpower the mix.
1. 13 A Mastersounds / Z Dynobeat hats
2. 12 A Custom Mastersound hats
3. 14 Istambul Sultans (thinking of getting the whole set of Sultans, crash plus ride)
All three available options.
I need by before Sunday.
My kit is a 5pcs. Gretsch Catalina Maple fusion kit with the 20" bass drum.
Thanks all!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: godisjudge on July 29, 2011, 10:29:50 AM
For me, The Sultans were a steal. For the price of 16550 you get them all Hats,Crash and Ride. :-D Pero Zildjian user ako and for quiet use, I would like 13 K Custom Dark hi-hats. :-D
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Post by: Chipstah on July 29, 2011, 10:54:26 AM
For me, The Sultans were a steal. For the price of 16550 you get them all Hats,Crash and Ride. :-D Pero Zildjian user ako and for quiet use, I would like 13 K Custom Dark hi-hats. :-D
Thanks. Would you suggest the 12 A Mastersounds?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: godisjudge on July 29, 2011, 11:41:03 AM
I haven't tried A Mastersound. while AC mastersound is bright,lively and good chick sound. I think meron sa classifieds na 12. But for me I like 13 better :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Chipstah on July 29, 2011, 01:57:49 PM
thanks!
So if volume is the main issue, being that where we play is smaller than a usual studio, diameter is not the main consideration?
Seriously considering the sultans then, as long as they are quieter than my ZBTs.
I plan to buy tonight or tomorrow. So Sultans for studio size venues? Kawawa na kasi mga kabanda ko, pati ako bingi na, and I dont even play metal...
Your thoughts please. :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: godisjudge on July 29, 2011, 03:03:35 PM
@Chipstah: Your inbox is full bro.hehe You can check the zildjian/Sabian/Paiste site, Stated yung volume,pitch and other descriptions ng hats. Pero syempre iba pa rin yung actual test sa settings niyo. :-D
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Post by: Chipstah on July 29, 2011, 06:06:10 PM
@Chipstah: Your inbox is full bro.hehe You can check the zildjian/Sabian/Paiste site, Stated yung volume,pitch and other descriptions ng hats. Pero syempre iba pa rin yung actual test sa settings niyo. :-D
Thanks for the advice. Will check out the site and hopefully decide soon.
In anycase, if anyone else has an idea where to get quiet hi hats, let me know. thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on July 30, 2011, 12:50:34 AM
Need advise on which of my options to pick. I need quiet cymbals, and are willing to start with hats. Its for our small concrete walled basement where our band plays. My present ZBTs overpower the mix.
1. 13 A Mastersounds / Z Dynobeat hats
2. 12 A Custom Mastersound hats
3. 14 Istambul Sultans (thinking of getting the whole set of Sultans, crash plus ride)
All three available options.
I need by before Sunday.
My kit is a 5pcs. Gretsch Catalina Maple fusion kit with the 20" bass drum.
Thanks all!
12'' A Custom Mastersound for the win.. First of all its pretty good for small venues, and lastly, its "chick" sound.. And when playing it, you'll really hear the bite! But 13'' will do also..Good luck!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zachki on July 30, 2011, 05:29:18 AM
12'' A Custom Mastersound for the win.. First of all its pretty good for small venues, and lastly, its "chick" sound.. And when playing it, you'll really hear the bite! But 13'' will do also..Good luck!
bro ask lang, bakit maraming may gusto ng small size na hats like 12" or 13", rare lang mag suggest ng 14" and 15"?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 30, 2011, 05:43:13 AM
bro ask lang, bakit maraming may gusto ng small size na hats like 12" or 13", rare lang mag suggest ng 14" and 15"?
technically speaking, mas controlled yung sound kasi ng smaller sized hats as what sandy mentioned sa other thread. but then again, it all boils down din talaga to preference. :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on July 30, 2011, 12:38:33 PM
technically speaking, mas controlled yung sound kasi ng smaller sized hats as what sandy mentioned sa other thread. but then again, it all boils down din talaga to preference. :-)
Brod zachi, tama si master Riff.. Mas controlled ang sound ng smaller sized hats.. And personal preference talaga ng gagamit..
Anyway, sagot ko naman sa tanong mo, (para saken lang ha, personal choice), masyado ng common ang 14'' hats.. Gusto ko lang maiba nung mga panahon na nageexperiment rin ako tulad mo ngayon.. Meron ako ngayon Stagg 13'' Furia Hats.. The best na para saken.. Dati gusto ko rin yung 12'' A Mastersound, wala lang budget that time..Pero kung meron siguro, yun na ang kinuha ko :-)
Dun ko na nagustuhan ang mga smaller diameter hats after maka-try ng 13''.. PERO, di ko sinasabing panget ang 14'' hats ha? Ok siya, in fact, safest choice siya since yun nga ay pang all around..
Talagang kanya kanyang panlasa lang talaga yan..good luck :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zachki on July 31, 2011, 12:08:24 PM
technically speaking, mas controlled yung sound kasi ng smaller sized hats as what sandy mentioned sa other thread. but then again, it all boils down din talaga to preference. :-)
thanks sa info sir riff, atleast i got the idea on the dynamic part
Brod zachi, tama si master Riff.. Mas controlled ang sound ng smaller sized hats.. And personal preference talaga ng gagamit..
Anyway, sagot ko naman sa tanong mo, (para saken lang ha, personal choice), masyado ng common ang 14'' hats.. Gusto ko lang maiba nung mga panahon na nageexperiment rin ako tulad mo ngayon.. Meron ako ngayon Stagg 13'' Furia Hats.. The best na para saken.. Dati gusto ko rin yung 12'' A Mastersound, wala lang budget that time..Pero kung meron siguro, yun na ang kinuha ko :-)
Dun ko na nagustuhan ang mga smaller diameter hats after maka-try ng 13''.. PERO, di ko sinasabing panget ang 14'' hats ha? Ok siya, in fact, safest choice siya since yun nga ay pang all around..
Talagang kanya kanyang panlasa lang talaga yan..good luck :-)
bro galing ako ng TMS kahapon, nakalagay sa test drumset yung stagg VB 13" hats, grabe ganda ng chick* and open sound, halos mapanaginipan ko nga kasi tulog na ako parang naririnig ko parin ung chick* nya, aaarrggg sige aaminin ko na parang type ko sya, pero try ko muna ibang hats para walang regret, thou konti palang experience ko when it comes to hats eh..
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: byako21 on August 04, 2011, 11:10:38 AM
i dont think this would be the right thread... i'm not really a first time buyer but i would really like your input on this... i'm currently using a sabian b8 18" medium thin crash... mahina sya para sa akin pag sa gig na.no issues po yung crash ko... kaya i'm really wondering baket sya mahina.... na confirmed pa yun ng ginamit ng drummer ni paolo santos. sabi nya mahina nga... considering na ang tugtugan nila eh semi acoustic lang. ang question ko eh... ano ang magandang ipalit sa b8 18" crash ko na malakas...na kasing price range or a bit more sa current crash ko?... thanks mga ka PM
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 05, 2011, 12:22:49 AM
i dont think this would be the right thread... i'm not really a first time buyer but i would really like your input on this... i'm currently using a sabian b8 18" medium thin crash... mahina sya para sa akin pag sa gig na.no issues po yung crash ko... kaya i'm really wondering baket sya mahina.... na confirmed pa yun ng ginamit ng drummer ni paolo santos. sabi nya mahina nga... considering na ang tugtugan nila eh semi acoustic lang. ang question ko eh... ano ang magandang ipalit sa b8 18" crash ko na malakas...na kasing price range or a bit more sa current crash ko?... thanks mga ka PM
check out medium - medium heavy cymbal types. you could try checking out stagg cymbals as well since bihira ang availability ng Sabian B8 crashes with those specific weights, within price range din ang stagg kung tutuusin. :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: izrael17 on August 06, 2011, 12:48:16 AM
Question po mga master : ano po bang magandang starter na double peds..mag aaral pa lang kasi ako.anong model po ang maganda itry para matuto. ung pasok po sa budget ng mga newbie drummer(around 5k?).tnx po
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on August 06, 2011, 01:28:20 AM
Question po mga master : ano po bang magandang starter na double peds..mag aaral pa lang kasi ako.anong model po ang maganda itry para matuto. ung pasok po sa budget ng mga newbie drummer(around 5k?).tnx po
Try Gibraltar double peds.. Not bad for newbies when it comes to Gibraltar hardwares.. Take it from me sir.. Newbie hardware na pero parang naka Pro hardware ka na.. Try Gibraltar 6611-DB.. Pero kung gusto mo na ng medyo advanced Double Peds try mo na lang yung Pearl Demon Drive double peds or Tama Speed Cobra double peds.. Good investments na.. Good luck!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: izrael17 on August 06, 2011, 01:26:29 PM
Try Gibraltar double peds.. Not bad for newbies when it comes to Gibraltar hardwares.. Take it from me sir.. Newbie hardware na pero parang naka Pro hardware ka na.. Try Gibraltar 6611-DB.. Pero kung gusto mo na ng medyo advanced Double Peds try mo na lang yung Pearl Demon Drive double peds or Tama Speed Cobra double peds.. Good investments na.. Good luck!
sir meron po ba neto sa raon?
and how much po ang demon drive and speed cobra na brand new?2nd hand?tnx po
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on August 06, 2011, 02:11:07 PM
and how much po ang demon drive and speed cobra na brand new?2nd hand?tnx po
Gibraltar meron sa Raon dun sa Manila Music.. Demon Drive din ata since sister company yun ng JB Music.. Di ko lang sure kung mga nasa magkano ang 2nd hand.. Try visiting our classifieds page baka may makita ka..
Eto, Classifieds: Drum and Percussion http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/board,169.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/board,169.0.html)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: byako21 on August 11, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
check out medium - medium heavy cymbal types. you could try checking out stagg cymbals as well since bihira ang availability ng Sabian B8 crashes with those specific weights, within price range din ang stagg kung tutuusin. :wink:
sir riff... yung mga metal crash ba malakas yun?? may naka post na paiste alpha metal crash sa classified ads, ok kaya yung ganun? thanks
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 12, 2011, 12:00:27 AM
sir riff... yung mga metal crash ba malakas yun?? may naka post na paiste alpha metal crash sa classified ads, ok kaya yung ganun? thanks
yup! and kung pasok naman sa budget eh jackpot na yan! :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: caramel328 on August 17, 2011, 09:07:15 PM
hi! saan po kaya pwede pang makabili ng hi hat cymbal seat? Meron kasi sa Lazer, di nag fit sa rod. Sa JB at Perfect Pitch wala daw sila. :(
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: otepandrew on August 25, 2011, 11:52:33 PM
sir ask ko lang po nakabili kasi ako ng yamaha ng single peds eh san ba makakabili nung dulo nya beater ung nabili ko kasing peds bilog na foam lang ung dulo nya eh
Title: Please guide the newbie
Post by: mrsticky on November 23, 2011, 12:14:15 PM
Mga sir, ask ko lang po ang opinions nyo (please be open).
gusto ko po kasi bumili ng drumset either 2nd hand or brand new kaso pinagiisipan ko lang..... kasi may nagustuhan ako brand new and 2nd hand.. so my question is... WHICH is WHICH???
brand new: Gretsch black hawk series 18k+(50% off sa jb) complete hardware set no cymbals, no throne and I think isa lang ang cymbal stnad na kasama. Right?
2nd hand sonor 1005 series I saw the pics and its in good condition. Includes 2 meinl cymbals (16" crash and 14" hats) 1 ZBT ride cymbal 20" (from the looks of the picture faded na ung logo). May stock na cymbals pa ata. Tama snare ambassador(heads) (kaso di nya naindicate kung anu, pero its stainless) All drum heads are Lazer except the snare (which is really not a problem at all) Included lahat ng hardwares pati throne 18k price
My considerations:
My budget as of now is 18k+ so buying the gretsch would make me wait for another ipon to buy cymbals and 1 more cymbal stand. Of course brand new saya so mataas ang resale value nya in the future.
Buying the sonor 1005 series would be enough for my budget, its a complete set. but of course mababa na ang resale value in the near future and the series is a little ancient (may sonor 3007 na kasi dba).
I'm a good drummer so far but not yet great. THIS WILL BE MY FIRST DRUM SET.
So WHICH is WHICH?
Thank you guys in advance. I'll appreciate any comments. :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Please guide the newbie
Post by: ris4892 on November 23, 2011, 10:24:47 PM
Mga sir, ask ko lang po ang opinions nyo (please be open).
gusto ko po kasi bumili ng drumset either 2nd hand or brand new kaso pinagiisipan ko lang..... kasi may nagustuhan ako brand new and 2nd hand.. so my question is... WHICH is WHICH???
brand new: Gretsch black hawk series 18k+(50% off sa jb) complete hardware set no cymbals, no throne and I think isa lang ang cymbal stnad na kasama. Right?
2nd hand sonor 1005 series I saw the pics and its in good condition. Includes 2 meinl cymbals (16" crash and 14" hats) 1 ZBT ride cymbal 20" (from the looks of the picture faded na ung logo). May stock na cymbals pa ata. Tama snare ambassador(heads) (kaso di nya naindicate kung anu, pero its stainless) All drum heads are Lazer except the snare (which is really not a problem at all) Included lahat ng hardwares pati throne 18k price
My considerations:
My budget as of now is 18k+ so buying the gretsch would make me wait for another ipon to buy cymbals and 1 more cymbal stand. Of course brand new saya so mataas ang resale value nya in the future.
Buying the sonor 1005 series would be enough for my budget, its a complete set. but of course mababa na ang resale value in the near future and the series is a little ancient (may sonor 3007 na kasi dba).
I'm a good drummer so far but not yet great. THIS WILL BE MY FIRST DRUM SET.
So WHICH is WHICH?
Thank you guys in advance. I'll appreciate any comments. :-D :-D :-D
sa mga choices mo, yung sonor dahil kumpleto na. hindi magandang mag drums nang walang cymbals [parang ati atihan lang] meron nang dalawang stand. throne.
comment ko lang [8 months palang akong nag da drums]: bili ka muna ng murang drum set, cymbals, hardware, etc [pamraktis lang] tapos pag professional" kana bili kana ng mga professional series drum kits.
gagamitin mo ba sa gig /recording o sa bahay lang?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mrsticky on November 24, 2011, 12:19:33 AM
sa mga choices mo, yung sonor dahil kumpleto na. hindi magandang mag drums nang walang cymbals [parang ati atihan lang] meron nang dalawang stand. throne.
comment ko lang [8 months palang akong nag da drums]: bili ka muna ng murang drum set, cymbals, hardware, etc [pamraktis lang] tapos pag professional" kana bili kana ng mga professional series drum kits.
gagamitin mo ba sa gig /recording o sa bahay lang?
Sir thanks sa reply. actually for hobby purposes lang tlga, sa bahay lang, but who knows diba bka magkaron ng banda magka gig. but mainly for bahay lang.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jobo_ph on November 24, 2011, 11:47:21 AM
My take on mrsticky's predicament...
Based on your post... "good drummer"... "hobby"... "home use"...
If you're not too impatient and you'll be into this "hobby" in the long run, I'd highly suggest you wait, save more money and buy a NEW MID-LEVEL drum set (along the lines of Tama Silverstar, Gretsch Catalina, Pearl VBX).
I'm just the kind of person that places a lot of importance on quality and value, most especially if it is an activity I love to do and will be in it long term. It follows, I'll spend more and I buy something with no plans to resell.
For me, first kit should be new and what I really want and I'm the first to tinker around and handle it. It is simply more satisfying that way. You'll also be the one making history with and taking care of it.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: dreddurius on November 24, 2011, 01:25:09 PM
Based on your post... "good drummer"... "hobby"... "home use"...
If you're not too impatient and you'll be into this "hobby" in the long run, I'd highly suggest you wait, save more money and buy a NEW MID-LEVEL drum set (along the lines of Tama Silverstar, Gretsch Catalina, Pearl VBX).
I'm just the kind of person that places a lot of importance on quality and value, most especially if it is an activity I love to do and will be in it long term. It follows, I'll spend more and I buy something with no plans to resell.
For me, first kit should be new and what I really want and I'm the first to tinker around and handle it. It is simply more satisfying that way. You'll also be the one making history with and taking care of it.
Over 9,000+ for this ^^,
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jckazs on November 24, 2011, 01:34:58 PM
Good advice. Pero ok lang din ako kung hindi brand new. Meron naman ok condition na 2nd hand. Bilin mo na gusto mo kung palagay mo magtatagal ka sa hobby na to. kung magmadali ka, at kukuha ka ng masmababang model sa gusto mo, sigurado ilang bwan pa lang bebenta mo din yan at maguupgrade ka...in the long run mas malaki pa magagastos mo. Tiis na lang habang nagiipon. Lalong magiging fulfilling pagnakuha mo na yung gusto mo talaga.
puede din bilin mo isa isa. Since kulang pa budget mo, prioritize mo yung item na kakasya pera...cymbals, snare...etc
Based on your post... "good drummer"... "hobby"... "home use"...
If you're not too impatient and you'll be into this "hobby" in the long run, I'd highly suggest you wait, save more money and buy a NEW MID-LEVEL drum set (along the lines of Tama Silverstar, Gretsch Catalina, Pearl VBX).
I'm just the kind of person that places a lot of importance on quality and value, most especially if it is an activity I love to do and will be in it long term. It follows, I'll spend more and I buy something with no plans to resell.
For me, first kit should be new and what I really want and I'm the first to tinker around and handle it. It is simply more satisfying that way. You'll also be the one making history with and taking care of it.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: ris4892 on November 24, 2011, 11:14:56 PM
hello to everyone!
gusto ko lamang pong malaman ang experience ninyo sa mga cymbal line na ito:
Planet Z , Sabian B8 , Stagg SH, ZBT
balak ko nang bumili ng cymbals beginner lang po ako (8months of home drumming)
Planet Z - Pangit po ba yung sound? Sabian B8 - Nayuyupi ba and edge? Stagg SH - ano po ba ang masasabi ninyo sa sound? [mayroon kasi akong nakitang SH rock hi hat yung center hole chipped na] ZBT - mayroon kasi akong nakitang picture walang crack pero ang daming yupi ng edge
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on November 25, 2011, 02:38:35 AM
Planet Z - Pangit po ba yung sound? Sabian B8 - Nayuyupi ba and edge?
Planet Z, di ko trip yung tunog, mas mabilis mag-dent or mayupi & di siya pang matagalan... :oops: Sabian B8, 2yrs ko nang nagamit di pa nayuyupi, great sound, pangmatagalan but be careful of possible keyholes... :-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mokie on November 25, 2011, 09:19:28 AM
gusto ko lamang pong malaman ang experience ninyo sa mga cymbal line na ito:
Planet Z , Sabian B8 , Stagg SH, ZBT
balak ko nang bumili ng cymbals beginner lang po ako (8months of home drumming)
Planet Z - Pangit po ba yung sound? Sabian B8 - Nayuyupi ba and edge? Stagg SH - ano po ba ang masasabi ninyo sa sound? [mayroon kasi akong nakitang SH rock hi hat yung center hole chipped na] ZBT - mayroon kasi akong nakitang picture walang crack pero ang daming yupi ng edge
Bro magkano ba budget mo?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mrsticky on November 25, 2011, 09:27:39 AM
Good advice. Pero ok lang din ako kung hindi brand new. Meron naman ok condition na 2nd hand. Bilin mo na gusto mo kung palagay mo magtatagal ka sa hobby na to. kung magmadali ka, at kukuha ka ng masmababang model sa gusto mo, sigurado ilang bwan pa lang bebenta mo din yan at maguupgrade ka...in the long run mas malaki pa magagastos mo. Tiis na lang habang nagiipon. Lalong magiging fulfilling pagnakuha mo na yung gusto mo talaga.
puede din bilin mo isa isa. Since kulang pa budget mo, prioritize mo yung item na kakasya pera...cymbals, snare...etc
so u r saying that maybe I should go buy the first option (Gretsch Black hawk series)? Thanks po jckazs and jobo_ph. so I have different opinions na. haha! as for the patience, its a bit of a problem. I think everyone has experienced this, parang every night huna-hunt ako ng drumset until mabili ko sya. :-o :-o hahaha!
so what do you say about my 2 option drumset: Gretsch blackhawk series sonor 1005 series (2nd hand)
thanks again guys! :-D :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: plitipiw40315 on November 25, 2011, 09:42:04 AM
so u r saying that maybe I should go buy the first option (Gretsch Black hawk series)? Thanks po jckazs and jobo_ph. so I have different opinions na. haha! as for the patience, its a bit of a problem. I think everyone has experienced this, parang every night huna-hunt ako ng drumset until mabili ko sya. :-o :-o
Advice ko bro para mejo humaba ang patience mo, lage kang tumingen ng pics o vids ng mga choices mong drumset sa net, oh lage mong bisitahin sa music store pag free time mo, pag ganun kasi mejo magsasawa ka.hehe, :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jobo_ph on November 25, 2011, 10:26:45 AM
so u r saying that maybe I should go buy the first option (Gretsch Black hawk series)? Thanks po jckazs and jobo_ph. so I have different opinions na. haha! as for the patience, its a bit of a problem. I think everyone has experienced this, parang every night huna-hunt ako ng drumset until mabili ko sya. :-o :-o hahaha!
so what do you say about my 2 option drumset: Gretsch blackhawk series sonor 1005 series (2nd hand)
thanks again guys! :-D :-D
I COMPLETELY AND FULLY understand and KNOW how it feels that patience can be a problem...
It took me 3 years before I could buy my Tama Silverstar kit and XS20 cymbal set... how did I try to become patient? I deliberately tried to forget about it (not visiting Tama's website, not visiting Philmusic, avoiding music stores, putting more of my mind at work and home/family and other stuff/hobby) until my savings started to near their mark... In the end, it's ALL WORTH THE WAIT because I got what I really wanted.
Now, I don't really need to test my patience of waiting even if I will be eyeing high-end cymbals within the next 2 years. I already have something good enough to practice and play on.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: plitipiw40315 on November 25, 2011, 10:59:59 AM
I COMPLETELY AND FULLY understand and KNOW how it feels that patience can be a problem...
It took me 3 years before I could buy my Tama Silverstar kit and XS20 cymbal set... how did I try to become patient? I deliberately tried to forget about it (not visiting Tama's website, not visiting Philmusic, avoiding music stores, putting more of my mind at work and home/family and other stuff/hobby) until my savings started to near their mark... In the end, it's ALL WORTH THE WAIT because I got what I really wanted.
Now, I don't really need to test my patience of waiting even if I will be eyeing high-end cymbals within the next 2 years. I already have something good enough to practice and play on.
mukhang magkaiba tayo ng approach bro eh..hehe, pero it worked for me na laging patingen tingen sa net ng drumsets na pangarap ko, another advantage is you can also research on the pros and cons ng trip mong drumset.
OT: @ jobo_ph nosebleed ako sa pagbabasa ng mga post mo.hehehe :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jobo_ph on November 25, 2011, 11:15:16 AM
mukhang magkaiba tayo ng approach bro eh..hehe, pero it worked for me na laging patingen tingen sa net ng drumsets na pangarap ko, another advantage is you can also research on the pros and cons ng trip mong drumset.
OT: @ jobo_ph nosebleed ako sa pagbabasa ng mga post mo.hehehe :-D
Haha, eto tissue, pre! Hehe! Biro lang :-D
Oo, magkaiba nga, dre. Para lalo maguluhan si mrsticky! Haha!
Three or so years ago, subsob din ako sa research tungkol sa drum sets... Pearl, Gretsch, at Tama... before ako nag-decide na Tama ang gusto ko... then malalaman mo ang cost :-o... hindi madali... kaya tumigil at umiwas muna talaga ako kasi kung hindi, masisira ang ulo ko sa inip... :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jckazs on November 25, 2011, 01:55:06 PM
Glad to help. Was in a similar situation a few years ago. Ngayon dami ko na napagdaanan na gear. in the process, medyo malaki din nagastos / nasayang ko. As jobo said, kung kaya mo maghintay, papagipunan mo na lang mid level kit, or better, pro level kit.
Pero if i had to choose between sonor force 1005 o black hawk, black hawk na ko. Madami magagaling dito sa forum na naka black hawk. Thing to consider, minsan at that price point medyo madaming features ang wala compared to mid-level kits such as catalina, silverstar etc. Kadalasan inferior ang hardware, type of wood, craftsmanship.
so u r saying that maybe I should go buy the first option (Gretsch Black hawk series)? Thanks po jckazs and jobo_ph. so I have different opinions na. haha! as for the patience, its a bit of a problem. I think everyone has experienced this, parang every night huna-hunt ako ng drumset until mabili ko sya. :-o :-o hahaha!
so what do you say about my 2 option drumset: Gretsch blackhawk series sonor 1005 series (2nd hand)
thanks again guys! :-D :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mrsticky on November 25, 2011, 11:39:08 PM
@jobo_ph yeah, I figured out na naguluhan lalo ako sa opinions mo. haha! We're on the opposite side, I usually walk across the festival mall going in and out of the place where I work, so I really can't avoid looking over and over again on the drum sets. Even though parang nasusuka ako sa sobrang excitement, it gives me a lot of inspiration para makuha ko yung mga un some other time (maybe after a 2nd hand or if lucky I can buy those already).
@plitipiw40315 ang problem is ung isang nireresearch ko na drum set is an old series na konti na lang tlga ung reviews kaya di ko sya tlga mareresearch ng todo.
@jckazs its no problem for me if I lose some cash in the process of upgrading/reselling/experimenting gears (not that I'm rich) but I think "you can charge it to experience". kasi if ever iisipin mo na may nasayang kang pera, ok lang dahil nagamit mo pa rin naman. Maybe we can never be fully contented diba?
Black hawk ay entry level kit right? so if I'm going to buy that, maybe then I will still replace it after some time right? (maybe 3-4 yrs)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jckazs on November 26, 2011, 10:23:15 AM
Yup, considered entry level. Pero if you're happy with how it sounds at matibay naman, baka hindi kailangan magpalit. Good point. Though magastos magupgrade, masaya naman. More exposure to different types of gear, in the process malalaman mo din yung hinahanap mo talaga.
@jobo_ph yeah, I figured out na naguluhan lalo ako sa opinions mo. haha! We're on the opposite side, I usually walk across the festival mall going in and out of the place where I work, so I really can't avoid looking over and over again on the drum sets. Even though parang nasusuka ako sa sobrang excitement, it gives me a lot of inspiration para makuha ko yung mga un some other time (maybe after a 2nd hand or if lucky I can buy those already).
@plitipiw40315 ang problem is ung isang nireresearch ko na drum set is an old series na konti na lang tlga ung reviews kaya di ko sya tlga mareresearch ng todo.
@jckazs its no problem for me if I lose some cash in the process of upgrading/reselling/experimenting gears (not that I'm rich) but I think "you can charge it to experience". kasi if ever iisipin mo na may nasayang kang pera, ok lang dahil nagamit mo pa rin naman. Maybe we can never be fully contented diba?
Black hawk ay entry level kit right? so if I'm going to buy that, maybe then I will still replace it after some time right? (maybe 3-4 yrs)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mrsticky on November 30, 2011, 12:39:01 AM
sirs how about ludwig accent series? any feedback on that? thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: godisjudge on December 02, 2011, 02:49:39 PM
sirs how about ludwig accent series? any feedback on that? thanks!
Sa church namin ludwig accent series gamit. Pwede na yung shells for its price. Design is almost generic like. Single braced hardwares, Snare,hi-hats and straight cymbal stand.
If you plan on buying now and already thinking that you will change it in 3-4 years. For me, mas ok to wait until all you have sufficient funds to buy what you really want. Or maybe wait ng good sale, To purchase a decent/mid-end kit at a very low price. And tipong pagkabili mo is enjoy/satisfied ka at most, walang what if ito sana nabili ko or ayun. Well that's just me.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mrsticky on December 03, 2011, 02:52:48 AM
hahaha thanks sir Godisjudge. patience is a virtue! (hiraaaaaaaaaaaap!) :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: godisjudge on December 05, 2011, 10:34:20 AM
hahaha thanks sir Godisjudge. patience is a virtue! (hiraaaaaaaaaaaap!) :lol:
Tama, Lalo na sa gears. hehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: _dax_ on December 20, 2011, 09:57:02 AM
I agree. Patience is a virtue. I learned that the hard way but experience is the best teacher. so win win pa rin. :razz:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: tom_morelo2001 on December 26, 2011, 05:40:54 PM
mga sir tanong ko lng po,kun alin mas matibay/pang matagalan.balak ko main crash, A custom projection 16" or K custom dark crash 16"....at malupet din ung tunog... salamat po!!!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: x_taxi on December 29, 2011, 02:12:20 PM
Hi.
Tanong lang po kung ano marecommend niyo na drum throne? Yun di masakit sa likod pag matagal na gamit? I've only tried tama and gibraltar ones in the 6k range, pretty good stuff pero expensive.
Thanks sir!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: 9_spiral on December 29, 2011, 08:16:09 PM
Tanong lang po kung ano marecommend niyo na drum throne? Yun di masakit sa likod pag matagal na gamit? I've only tried tama and gibraltar ones in the 6k range, pretty good stuff pero expensive.
Thanks sir!
You may want to look into Stagg drum thrones. They're comfy and cheaper.
thanks bro! Was checkin out the mapex 14" round double braced na curved, but then i saw the basix dt810. Got that instead for 3.4k lang. Very nice and comfy!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: spadettie on January 10, 2012, 04:53:49 PM
if i have 50k pesos today, and plan to acquire my very first drum set... what would you suggest..? kasama na cymbals ah... thanks.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: bulok on January 10, 2012, 05:57:17 PM
sino local distributor natin ng drumcraft mga master?
Sa Lazer bro.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: spadettie on January 10, 2012, 08:31:13 PM
salamat tol :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: x_taxi on January 21, 2012, 10:42:17 AM
hi,
got this from a trade: (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_2521_dpeds.jpg)
any suggestions as to beater upgrade? or will this be good enough to learn on till i get a proper pedal?
thanks! \m/
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on January 21, 2012, 11:27:22 AM
my advice...dont replace the felt beaters. mabagal kasi at mabigat ang feel ng ganyang pedal kaya kapag kinabitan mo ng may plastic na beater, bibigat lalo feel nung pedal.
IMO, felt beaters also sound fuller than any other hard beaters
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: x_taxi on January 21, 2012, 12:16:49 PM
my advice...dont replace the felt beaters. mabagal kasi at mabigat ang feel ng ganyang pedal kaya kapag kinabitan mo ng may plastic na beater, bibigat lalo feel nung pedal.
IMO, felt beaters also sound fuller than any other hard beaters
Title: where to buy drum set w/ cymbal set for 25k+? and pede credit card? help!
Post by: ron12222 on January 29, 2012, 02:17:58 PM
wassup guys! newbie lang po ako at gusto ko bumili ng 1st drum kit ko.. san po ba makakabli? yung may cymbal set na din po.. and pede i credit card (hirap kasi mag ipon).. please help! manila area po ako.. thanks!! :)
Title: Re: where to buy drum set w/ cymbal set for 25k+? and pede credit card? help!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 29, 2012, 02:26:15 PM
any JB music store near you
Title: Re: where to buy drum set w/ cymbal set for 25k+? and pede credit card? help!
Post by: ron12222 on January 29, 2012, 02:37:02 PM
branded na po yun? may nakita kasi akong gretch blackhawk w/ gibraltar hardwares.. di ko lang po alam kung san mahahanap.. san kaya available ngayun yun? minsan kasi wala din sa jb.. sa raon ba nag aaccept sila ng credit card?
Title: Re: where to buy drum set w/ cymbal set for 25k+? and pede credit card? help!
Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 29, 2012, 04:20:05 PM
bro,once nasa JB ka na, you can ask them kung nasaan store yung item na gusto mo. tawag ka lang sa JB music bro and they can help you with that.
http://www.jbmusic.com.ph
raon?hindi ko lang alam. some Oo pero yung ibang stores dun na nagbebenta ng generic items hindi siguro.
Title: Re: where to buy drum set w/ cymbal set for 25k+? and pede credit card? help!
Post by: gss on January 31, 2012, 03:07:02 PM
wassup guys! newbie lang po ako at gusto ko bumili ng 1st drum kit ko.. san po ba makakabli? yung may cymbal set na din po.. and pede i credit card (hirap kasi mag ipon).. please help! manila area po ako.. thanks!! :)
sir suggest ko subukan mong mamasyal sa mga tindahan, sarap din tumingin and magtanong lalo na taga manila ka...try mo raon saka evangelista yung side papuntang quiapo church, tapos subukan mo din sm manila, moa, harrison plaza...marami ka nang information na makukuha...mangolekta ka ng calling card tapos mag notes ka sa likod...pwede mo nang pag-aralan options mo pagkatapos :)
Title: Re: where to buy drum set w/ cymbal set for 25k+? and pede credit card? help!
Post by: godisjudge on January 31, 2012, 05:37:51 PM
wassup guys! newbie lang po ako at gusto ko bumili ng 1st drum kit ko.. san po ba makakabli? yung may cymbal set na din po.. and pede i credit card (hirap kasi mag ipon).. please help! manila area po ako.. thanks!! :)
Try JB Music. Sa Raon siguro try Stagepoint,Manila Music or other big stores dun malamang pwede credit card. Good luck on your gear hunting.
Title: Guys Suggestion Please
Post by: mrslow96 on March 01, 2012, 09:37:28 AM
Guys , im switching from guitar to drums , gusto ko mag drums kasi gusto ko din matutu ng ibang instruments. guys suggestion naman magandang drum kit guys ang budget ko ay nasa 15 to 30k po salamat guys everything will be appreciated salamat
Title: Re: Guys Suggestion Please
Post by: cinco05 on March 01, 2012, 10:35:39 AM
Guys , im switching from guitar to drums , gusto ko mag drums kasi gusto ko din matutu ng ibang instruments. guys suggestion naman magandang drum kit guys ang budget ko ay nasa 15 to 30k po salamat guys everything will be appreciated salamat
" much better sir mag start ka muna na starter na kit.. pwede ka din tumingin sa JB music tapat ng SM cubao, or sa alimall. :)
Title: Re: GRETSCH Drums thread
Post by: mrslow96 on March 03, 2012, 07:57:15 AM
mga sir at mam, guys ano ma rerecommend nyo sakin na beginner kit , yamaha or gretsch? thanks guys
Title: Re: Re: GRETSCH Drums thread
Post by: kawayan_strat on March 03, 2012, 09:47:50 AM
mga sir at mam, guys ano ma rerecommend nyo sakin na beginner kit , yamaha or gretsch? thanks guys
Gretsch Blackhawk :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mokie on March 04, 2012, 09:19:32 PM
mga sir, ask lang ako about sa mga handy video recorder, im planning to buy one kasi to record myself playing my drums. what do you i should do, i have 3 options: 1. Zoom q3hd? 2. Zoom h4n + may DSLR for video? 3. Zoom h1 + may DSLR for video?
thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mrslow96 on March 17, 2012, 02:36:26 PM
mga guys, ayos na din ba yung yamaha gig maker?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: BOY_ORCS on March 18, 2012, 02:05:47 PM
yes, i've tried out my nephew's gig maker which came with a sabian b8 cymbal set. decent set even with the stock heads as well as the hardware... ang laki ng potential for improvement pag napalitan ng heads...
Title: entry level kit canvass
Post by: herosalvador on May 05, 2012, 02:06:09 AM
i apologize i think many times na itong naipost kaya lang di ko mahanap yung thread. im new here by the way :) i would like to ask for some advice kung ano ang magandang piliin as an entry level kit. may mga pinagpipilian ako though i think hindi ko pa nakikita lahat. I NEED HELP xD kung ok lang sa inyo paki-indicate na rin yung corresponding prices and places kung saan sila pwede i-check out :) thanks a lot in advance. i like mangini by the way since he's a drummer and a rocket scientist (he helped in the design of patriot missile system). thanks ulit :)
Title: Any tips sa pag bili ng drums?
Post by: thrash666 on May 12, 2012, 06:00:24 PM
Hello sa lahat ng mga tao at drummer dito, ang situation ko kasi is wala pa akong drum set sa bahay, pero marunong ako mag drums, kaya balak ko sana ipalawak pa yung pag drudrums ko kasi hilig ko rin ito, ano mga tips niyo sa pag bili ng magandang tunog na drumset para sa mga 1st time na buyer tulad ko, kasi wala talaga ako kaalam alam sa mga info about drums, marunong lang ako tumugtog. salamat
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jake z on May 13, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
If your looking for a good sounding kit, you can check brands like pearl, tama, gretsch, ludwig, dw , yamaha,etc. But not all branded kit comes with good sound, that's why you have to consider drum heads & tuning.
Since you know how to play it would be easy for you to spot a kit that not only looks good but also sounds perfect. Goodluck!
Title: Entry level cymbal pack guide
Post by: johnc123 on May 20, 2012, 12:52:44 PM
Hi Guys,
I'm not really a drummer but wanted to play drums when I got back to Pinas. I'm currently working here in KL and looking for a good decent cymbal pack that I could bring back home.
Any entry level model of good cymbal brand that you could suggest me?
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Entry level cymbal pack guide
Post by: jake z on May 21, 2012, 03:24:23 PM
I'm not really a drummer but wanted to play drums when I got back to Pinas. I'm currently working here in KL and looking for a good decent cymbal pack that I could bring back home.
Any entry level model of good cymbal brand that you could suggest me?
Thanks in advance!
there' actually a debate on what entry level cymbals to suggest. you can check it out here - http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=175924.0
its kinda long but really helpful.
goodluck!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: johnc123 on May 21, 2012, 08:32:41 PM
thank you ser sa pag-refer sa existing thread na ito sensya na at hnde me naghanap :D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jake z on May 21, 2012, 08:39:36 PM
thank you ser sa pag-refer sa existing thread na ito sensya na at hnde me naghanap :D
np bro. hope you find it helpful.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: herosalvador on June 24, 2012, 12:00:10 AM
mga boss may tanong ako, may pinagpipilian ako sa 2 kits na nakita ko paki-assess naman bawat isa please haha nahihirapan kasi ako mag decide :))
KIT # 1 tama imperialstar 5pc kit with hihat, ride, crash cymbals (lahat meinl hcs), drum throne for P31k
KIT # 2 pearl target 5pc kit hihat, crash/ride cymbals (planet z), without drum throne for P29k
alin ang mas ok sa 2? i have bias towards tama pero im not sure kung yung added 2k ay sulit ba in terms of quality of drum throne AND cymbals (meinl ba or planet z? honestly i wanna hit them to test). or do i have to look for another kit at all?
thanks mga kuya xD
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jake z on June 24, 2012, 12:55:25 PM
Are the kits brand new?
In fairness, the tama kit is cheap - with a good set of cymbals too. Go with the imperial star bro, it's way better than the target.
Promise.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: herosalvador on June 24, 2012, 04:11:52 PM
In fairness, the tama kit is cheap - with a good set of cymbals too. Go with the imperial star bro, it's way better than the target.
Promise.
thanks! may mga naririnig/nababasa kasi ako na hindi raw maganda ang meinl hcs. i have a question, pag magtetest ng cymbals, aling spots ang magandang i-hit?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on June 24, 2012, 04:42:36 PM
thanks! may mga naririnig/nababasa kasi ako na hindi raw maganda ang meinl hcs. i have a question, pag magtetest ng cymbals, aling spots ang magandang i-hit?
Hit everything para ma-check mo yung tunog...
IMHO: Cracks & dents lang naman ang ayaw mo ng makita in a cymbal eh...
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: gss on June 24, 2012, 06:37:46 PM
thanks! may mga naririnig/nababasa kasi ako na hindi raw maganda ang meinl hcs. i have a question, pag magtetest ng cymbals, aling spots ang magandang i-hit?
Having owned the imperialstar/hcs kit before, I would attest to its durability. Matatag ang kit and matino ang hcs. Gaganda pa ang tunog pag pinalitan ang stock heads.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jake z on June 24, 2012, 06:49:07 PM
Yup. You should hit it everywhere.
Imho: hcs can be compared to zbt or zht. Kasi pag planet z, yung crash nya parang papel. It wouldn't last. Even the ride sounds so crappy.
Btw, where did you saw the kits?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Lordkurt on July 25, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
Guys, may masa suggest ba kayo na new drumset.. Kaso nasa 15-20k budget lang.. Tsaka saan merong installment?
Anong magandang brand at ano ang i e expect ko na kasama sa set? Tnx!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: gss on July 26, 2012, 07:43:01 AM
Dati syang shopinstallment.com, under construction pa ata. I would suggest computing muna yung tubo nila, ang taas ng interest eh.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Lordkurt on July 27, 2012, 06:59:07 AM
Tnx boss.. Sa halagang 15-20k ba may matino na akong makukuha? Magkano po ba entry level ng mga pearl, tama, yamaha? Para ipon mode na lang muna ulit...
Title: Needing opinions/suggestion/guide in buying a kit! :)
Post by: oreinj on August 13, 2012, 11:50:21 AM
After quite some time, sa wakas may budget na ako to buy one! :-D
But, i still don't know what kind/brand should I buy. :oops: Dalawang kit pa lang kasi nagagamit ko (Pearl Export, Gretsch Catallina Maple) so ang hirap mag decide on what since yun pa lang nagagamit ko, and wala pa ako idea sa ibang brands (baka kasi may mas maganda pa). I just want to ask for your opinion/suggestion/ or if you can guide me on which or what should I buy as a first time buyer ng kit, please, feel free to answer. Wahehehehe!
Thanks so much! :wave:
Title: Re: Needing opinions/suggestion/guide in buying a kit! :)
Post by: jckazs on August 13, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
Kahit ano dyan sa namention mo ok. At that price point (35k to 45k) debatable yung topic na pinakamaganda. It's just a matter of personal preference. Check mo din tama silverstar, taye - available sa lazer music. Consider mo din yung cymbals sa budget. Kung cast cymbals bibilin mo, magdadagdag ka ng p30k more for a crash, ride, hats set.
I suggest sa classifieds ka bumili. Walang kaso kung 2nd hand basta ok condition.
Title: Re: Needing opinions/suggestion/guide in buying a kit! :)
Post by: gss on August 13, 2012, 05:30:49 PM
But, i still don't know what kind/brand should I buy... Dalawang kit pa lang kasi nagagamit ko (Pearl Export, Gretsch Catallina Maple) so ang hirap mag decide on what since yun pa lang nagagamit ko, and wala pa ako idea sa ibang brands (baka kasi may mas maganda pa).
Sir, based sa post mo ang suggestion ko e be patient. Make a decision to part with your money only when you can say confidently that you have exerted a reasonable effort in studying the possibilities within your price range. Please try to explore what's available from other brands. Tama, Premiere, Taye, Ludwig, DrumCraft, Mapex, PDP, Yamaha are the more popular ones available here aside from the two you already tried. Audiophile carries Tama and Premiere while Lazer carries Taye and DrumCraft. JB naman sa Ludwig. Yamaha/Yupangco/Perfect Pitch for Yamaha, Lyric for PDP.
For me, ang magandang branches na puntahan dahil madami kang kits na makikita ay JB Music Audio Solutions sa Shopwise Shopping Center sa Cubao, Lazer Ali Mall, Audiophile Pioneer sa Mandaluyong, Ali Mall, and Robinsons Otis sa UN Ave Manila. SM Megamall naman for Yamaha/Yupangco Music Store, The Music Source naman for Mapex, sa Ali Mall may branch din sila. I guess sa Cubao pa lang madami ka nang mapag-aaralan...good luck!
Personal opinion ko, make an itinerary/schedule...for your price range I'll take a close look at Taye, Premier, Ludwig and Tama (since nakita mo na Pearl and Gretsch)
Title: Re: Needing opinions/suggestion/guide in buying a kit! :)
Post by: uy12umainer on August 13, 2012, 10:15:43 PM
go for the pearl vision drum kit :DDD
Title: Where to buy?
Post by: banjoboy on November 08, 2012, 03:04:18 AM
Where is the best place to buy drum stuff, particularly cymbals?
I'm planning to buy a set of starter cymbals (B8's or ZHT's), and I've been to JB Music and Perfect Pitch (both in Megamall). Are there other stores that offer the said products but at a lower price?
Title: need help in buying parts
Post by: ciwiaf on February 28, 2013, 10:16:43 PM
Hello, pasensya na kung gumawa pa ko bagong thread, nalilito na kasi ako sabog sabog nababasa ko, haha.
wala pa po ako alam halos sa drums gitara po kasi hawak ko before, so dito ko na lang iipunin tanong ko.
First sa cymbals po, "entry" level lang po yung hanap ko no need for pro muna, kasi mukhang di ko rin sya mauutilize, pang bahay lang talaga tong drums, practice practice. gusto ko lang muna mapalitan yung stock fernando cymbals.. anyway nagustuhan ko yung tunog sabian b8 and yung meinl mcs, ano ba mas prefer nyo sa dalawa? nag hanap kasi ako ng set nyan sa megamall, wala ko nakitang meinl mcs, pero may sabian b8, 15k daw dun sa top floor ng mega ako nakakita, wala na kasi sa jb.. ganun ba talaga price nun? or mas mura dapat, or mas mahal?
Second sa drumheads, ano po ba masusuggest nyo na head para ma achieve ko kahit papano yung sound ng bands like, The Strokes and Arctic Monkeys, ganyan po kasi magiging tugtugan namin. ano marerecommend nyo, evens, remo, etc... tsaka pede ba yung batter lang muna palitan, stock muna reso?
and last san ba maganda mamili ng mga yan?
ayan po muna mga tanong ko, hehe pasensya po noob na noob (shy) haha..
and thanks po
Title: Re: need help in buying parts
Post by: reinramirez on March 02, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
baguhan lang din, share ko lang
fernando drumset 13,500 (from sulit, free delivery and assembly/tono kasi noob din ako hehe) 11k sa raon kaso kaw pa mag assemble, may free narin itong sticks kaso sobra gaan premier mufflers 400 (from sulit, kasabay ng drumset) heavy duty cymbal stand 1,500(from sulit, kasabay ng drumset) Premier 20" ride 1,600 (from raon, mahal sa taga sulit)
Current upgrades Gibraltar Avenger 611DB
planed ugprades evans single ply heads(wla pa pambili ng magandang snare hehe)
Istanbul cymbals, skip ko na yung mga beginner at mid level cymbals, kahit abutin ako ng 1 year pag iipon ito na target ko(mga 30-35k target budget for cymbals) para isang gastusan lang
ok na para sakin pang bahay at pang praktis
SELLING : stock drum pedal hehe, pero may bibili na bukas pambili ng snare heads
Title: Re: need help in buying parts
Post by: uy12umainer on March 03, 2013, 10:12:47 PM
pwede na yung fernando drum set sir pang beginner, tapus kung cymbals naman try mo muna mag canvas sa classified drums and percussion dito mas makakamura ka pag bumili ka ng used cymbals, recommend ko din zbt 13 hats at 18 crash ride tibay, malakas, at reasonable pa yung tunog, pero ok na din siguro yung b8
Title: Re: need help in buying parts
Post by: yekoz on March 05, 2013, 04:54:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FsSAoeoVTU ok din yung tunog tas ganyan din kasi tugtugan nagagawin namin..
or maganda lang pagkakarecord kaya maganda yung tunog?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mauritia on March 11, 2013, 01:02:49 PM
Hi Guys,
Di po ako drummer so please help me. I have researched the prices and the brands, the various heads and cymbals that is available here, I just want a drummer's opinion.
Plano ko kasi bumili ng entry level or mid-level drums so that my band can practice unlimited hours sa bahay. So of all the brands, heads and cymbals that is available ano ang magandang combination of shells, cymbals and heads na maganda for metal? any brand that you can recommend for this? for the drumkit itself i estimate that I can dish out 40-50k so at least may idea price range na tayo. :)
Any suggestions are welcome! ;))
Thanks po mga master!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: yekoz on March 11, 2013, 01:27:10 PM
Di po ako drummer so please help me. I have researched the prices and the brands, the various heads and cymbals that is available here, I just want a drummer's opinion.
Plano ko kasi bumili ng entry level or mid-level drums so that my band can practice unlimited hours sa bahay. So of all the brands, heads and cymbals that is available ano ang magandang combination of shells, cymbals and heads na maganda for metal? any brand that you can recommend for this? for the drumkit itself i estimate that I can dish out 40-50k so at least may idea price range na tayo. :)
Any suggestions are welcome! ;))
Thanks po mga master!
Metal Kit: Any Drumkit will do just change the top beater of all drums and tone to your reference, Cymbals Paiste ni Joey Jordison. IMO 8-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on March 14, 2013, 08:38:55 AM
Di po ako drummer so please help me. I have researched the prices and the brands, the various heads and cymbals that is available here, I just want a drummer's opinion.
Plano ko kasi bumili ng entry level or mid-level drums so that my band can practice unlimited hours sa bahay. So of all the brands, heads and cymbals that is available ano ang magandang combination of shells, cymbals and heads na maganda for metal? any brand that you can recommend for this? for the drumkit itself i estimate that I can dish out 40-50k so at least may idea price range na tayo. :)
Any suggestions are welcome! ;))
Thanks po mga master!
If you're looking for some alternative, para lang magamit ng band niyo for jamming purposes, go for 2nd hand drums.. Marame na sa Classified Ads ng Drums and Percussion, medyo nakatipid ka pa.. Yan eh kung pang bahay lang yung drums, para lang maitawid yung pag jajamming ng hanggang sa magsawa kayo..
If you're looking for an entry level or mid level, madameng ng magandang entry level ngayon.. For jamming purposes lang ulet.. Minsan nga ginagamit pa sa mga bars.. Lazer, Pearl, Tama, Gretsch or go for Yamaha Gigmaker.. Pwede pang bahay, pwede pang outdoor.. Lahat naman halos eh.. Kung may drummer na nakatira sa bahay niyo, o kung gusto mo sir matuto mag drums at baka maging drummer ka pa sa susunod imbes na gitarista, bahista, o bokalista, go for the mid level na..
As for your queries, regarding shell combinations for a particular sound, sir, nasa tenga po ng drummer niyo yan.. Kung na-itono niya sa tonong gusto niya, okay na po yun.. Minsan kasi sa drums, meron tayong tinatawag na "pwede na yan". Malawak po ang tuning range ng mga drums at drummers depende lang po talaga sa tonong na-satisfy sila at nagustuhan nila.. Any drum shells will do.. Nasa nagtotono lang po talaga yan.. Basta po papalitan lang yung mga stock heads ng branded heads like Evans, Remo, o Aquarian..
Cymbals naman, kung pang basagan lang talaga pang jamming, go for Zildjian ZBT, Sabian B8, or Stagg SH series or DH series.. Entry level to mid level po yan.. Mabasag man, hindi ganun kasakit sa bulsa kasi abot kaya naman ang presyo..
Good luck sir! :razz:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: 83jamster on March 21, 2013, 01:48:34 PM
i don't know if you call this a review, more of an observation based on the picture you posted... assuming there is truth in advertising :-D :
pluses: 1. it is birch 2. 8 lugs on a 13" snare 3. same on a 14" floor tom (interesting size) 4. decent bass drum claw hooks, spurs and hoops (hoops appear to be wood) 5. suspension tom mounts 6. sturdy looking hardware (mataba ang tubes) and double braced 7. double chain bass pedal 8. free drum throne!
1-7 are basic components to make the kit look and sound decent imo...with proper tuning and decent heads i can imagine a nice kit. except for #3 (it's an uncommon size for a floor tom), the kit is comparable to branded kits, maybe even a notch above an entry level kit
question marks: 1. Reputation of the brand in making durable drumkits, workmanship ika nga 2. value for money 3. I'm not sure but I notice that the connectors of the boom stand are black...are these plastic? big question mark here...
bottom line, no. 1 question mark will make or break the "One Big Hit" above...either jackpot hit o tinamaan ka ng lugi <_<
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: 83jamster on March 27, 2013, 12:33:40 PM
Thanks for your input! :) saw it priced at 25k :|
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mauritia on March 27, 2013, 12:41:25 PM
If you're looking for some alternative, para lang magamit ng band niyo for jamming purposes, go for 2nd hand drums.. Marame na sa Classified Ads ng Drums and Percussion, medyo nakatipid ka pa.. Yan eh kung pang bahay lang yung drums, para lang maitawid yung pag jajamming ng hanggang sa magsawa kayo..
If you're looking for an entry level or mid level, madameng ng magandang entry level ngayon.. For jamming purposes lang ulet.. Minsan nga ginagamit pa sa mga bars.. Lazer, Pearl, Tama, Gretsch or go for Yamaha Gigmaker.. Pwede pang bahay, pwede pang outdoor.. Lahat naman halos eh.. Kung may drummer na nakatira sa bahay niyo, o kung gusto mo sir matuto mag drums at baka maging drummer ka pa sa susunod imbes na gitarista, bahista, o bokalista, go for the mid level na..
As for your queries, regarding shell combinations for a particular sound, sir, nasa tenga po ng drummer niyo yan.. Kung na-itono niya sa tonong gusto niya, okay na po yun.. Minsan kasi sa drums, meron tayong tinatawag na "pwede na yan". Malawak po ang tuning range ng mga drums at drummers depende lang po talaga sa tonong na-satisfy sila at nagustuhan nila.. Any drum shells will do.. Nasa nagtotono lang po talaga yan.. Basta po papalitan lang yung mga stock heads ng branded heads like Evans, Remo, o Aquarian..
Cymbals naman, kung pang basagan lang talaga pang jamming, go for Zildjian ZBT, Sabian B8, or Stagg SH series or DH series.. Entry level to mid level po yan.. Mabasag man, hindi ganun kasakit sa bulsa kasi abot kaya naman ang presyo..
Good luck sir! :razz:
Maraming salamat dito bossing! :)
Title: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: rusko7 on June 19, 2013, 02:58:30 AM
Good Day Fellow Drummers!
Pa help naman kung ano sa tingin niyo ang dapat kong kunin as my first kit.
First of all, naka tira ako sa semi-condo type na bulding, studio type, tight room space. Matagal na akong nangangarap na magkaroon ng sariling kit pero limited ako lagi sa space at laging bawal mag ingay sa location ko.
Nung mapadaan ako sa isang music store kahapon, laking gulat ko nung makita ko tong mga kits na naka display:
Ang gamit ko sa ngayon ay 6" snare practice pad, hi hat stand, hi hat cymbals, bass drum practice pad, double pedals at cymbal mute pads.
Yung unang kit, afford ko at kaya ko pang i-stretch budget ko para sa isang cymbal stand at kahit generic crash lang since lalagyan ko naman ng cymbal mute pads. Kaso alang kasyang drum mute pads at mesh heads para sa kit na yon at tiyak kakatukin ako ng mga nasa kabilang room.
Yung pangalawang kit naman, may kasamang mesh heads plus cymbals for practice kaso halos kalahati nung presyo ng unang kit ang idadagdag ko para sa kit na 'to.
Nahihirapan lang ako mag decide. kung may way para mapa silent ko yung unang kit, yun na kukunin ko kaso medyo nag aalanganin ako sa floor tom holder na naka kabit sa bass drum baka matanggal yung holder katagalan.
Title: Re: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: jcbska on June 19, 2013, 10:26:53 AM
hi bro,
mahirap nga ung situation mo.. kung nasa condo ka at bawal mag ingay, mahirap kalaban ang mga kapitbahay, i suggest siguro bro na mag save kapa ng konti and buy a decent electronic drum kit. para sure na pwede ka mag practice kahit late night at di ka makaka abala.
just my 2 cents! hehe
Title: Re: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: inigo on June 19, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
Tama si Jbska. Pag condo, kahit mga maliit or portable na drums ay maingay pa rin. Either you get an electronic kit or spend to build a sound-isolated drum room.
Title: Re: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: raye on June 19, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
e-drums nga lang talaga ang sagot sa problema mo kapatid....anytime of the day kahit madaling araw pa 'yan pag naka-edrums ka wala kang iisiping maiistorbo mo lalo na kapitbahay. ingay at kapitbahay din ang naging problema ko sa first kit ko kaya nag-edrums ako, ayun kahit anong oras ko maisipang magdrums walang problema
Title: Re: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: rusko7 on June 20, 2013, 02:34:59 AM
Maraming Salamat sa replies mga kapatid!
Di na kaya ng budget ko mag e-drums. Actually e-drums din first choice ko dahil kahit madaling araw, pwede pa rin pumalo.
Sana magka raket pa ako ng marami para mabili ko na din first kit ko :-D
Title: Re: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: gss on June 20, 2013, 09:30:31 AM
Di na kaya ng budget ko mag e-drums. Actually e-drums din first choice ko dahil kahit madaling araw, pwede pa rin pumalo.
Sana magka raket pa ako ng marami para mabili ko na din first kit ko :-D
Sir, given your limited options on space, sound/noise level, and budget, di nga pwede ang e-kit which is the best choice kung may budget ka... pwedeng ipon ko muna or if you're really decided to have a kit in your unit now, the next best thing is to use a practice pad set or a muted junior/jungle/portable kit dahil mas mura sila, i would not suggest a cheap e-kit based on not so favorable posts here sa forum...between the pads and a real kit, I would go for the portable kit since you have an option to bring it with you if you want to play your kit elsewhere such as a gig/jam session, which is not possible if you have practice pads...
The Pearl rhythm traveller kit sounds decent naman, narinig ko na with stock heads. But if you're worried with its tom/snare mounting system, you may also look at the Ludwig junior kit, narinig ko na rin matino din sya and is within the same price range as the rhythm traveller. But what I noticed is that the Ludwig kit is complete with all the hardware already, so lamang sya sa value for money over the Pearl kit, ang drawback lang nung Ludwig for me personally is mukha syang pambata compared to the Pearl na medyo pro ang dating.
But then...naisip ko bigla, if the kit plus mutes and cymbals will bring your final cost to around PhP 30K...pwede ka nang mag-hagilap ng 2nd hand e-kit, a 2nd hand e-kit of a decent brand may now go between PhP 35-40K... :-D
Title: Re: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: raye on June 20, 2013, 12:31:54 PM
Sir, given your limited options on space, sound/noise level, and budget, di nga pwede ang e-kit which is the best choice kung may budget ka... pwedeng ipon ko muna or if you're really decided to have a kit in your unit now, the next best thing is to use a practice pad set or a muted junior/jungle/portable kit dahil mas mura sila, i would not suggest a cheap e-kit based on not so favorable posts here sa forum...between the pads and a real kit, I would go for the portable kit since you have an option to bring it with you if you want to play your kit elsewhere such as a gig/jam session, which is not possible if you have practice pads...
The Pearl rhythm traveller kit sounds decent naman, narinig ko na with stock heads. But if you're worried with its tom/snare mounting system, you may also look at the Ludwig junior kit, narinig ko na rin matino din sya and is within the same price range as the rhythm traveller. But what I noticed is that the Ludwig kit is complete with all the hardware already, so lamang sya sa value for money over the Pearl kit, ang drawback lang nung Ludwig for me personally is mukha syang pambata compared to the Pearl na medyo pro ang dating.
But then...naisip ko bigla, if the kit plus mutes and cymbals will bring your final cost to around PhP 30K...pwede ka nang mag-hagilap ng 2nd hand e-kit, a 2nd hand e-kit of a decent brand may now go between PhP 35-40K... :-D
mismo....saka parang sugal kung pipilitin mo na mag acoustic kit but in the end e talagang 'di pwede because of the given circumstances. kung limited pa ang budget mo sa ngayon e konting tyaga muna sa pag-iipon tutal pangmatagalan naman once makuha mo ang e-drums na swak sa kalagayan mo
Title: Re: Need help/advice for my first kit
Post by: rusko7 on June 30, 2013, 10:39:51 PM
Maraming salamat ulit sa mga replies!
Ipon mode na lang muna ako ngayon... :-D
Title: what drumset should i buy? pls help.
Post by: jjgalvan on July 02, 2013, 12:15:54 AM
hello mga sir! Nagpapatulong po bumili ng drumset yun friend ko na babae, ala naman ako ma ibigay na magandang advice kasi gitarista po ako. anu po ba magandang drumset na maganda for beginners na MAGANDA QUALITY syempre. baka kasi baka maloko kami kaya i need your advice, sa mall sya nag papahanap mukang malaki budget ng papa nya. haha.. pero kung merong mura kayo na alam dito sa pm turo nyo naman sakin.. salamat mga sir.. sana matulungan nyoko. :)
Title: Re: what drumset should i buy? pls help.
Post by: inigo on July 02, 2013, 12:30:49 AM
define "mura"
Title: Re: what drumset should i buy? pls help.
Post by: musicianurse28 on July 03, 2013, 11:08:35 PM
hello mga sir! Nagpapatulong po bumili ng drumset yun friend ko na babae, ala naman ako ma ibigay na magandang advice kasi gitarista po ako. anu po ba magandang drumset na maganda for beginners na MAGANDA QUALITY syempre. baka kasi baka maloko kami kaya i need your advice, sa mall sya nag papahanap mukang malaki budget ng papa nya. haha.. pero kung merong mura kayo na alam dito sa pm turo nyo naman sakin.. salamat mga sir.. sana matulungan nyoko. :)
Go for Gretsch Catalina Maple.. Beginner to Advanced drummers.. Bang for the Buck! Panalo pa sa Gibraltar hardware.. Hope this helps!
Title: Re: what drumset should i buy? pls help.
Post by: jjgalvan on July 05, 2013, 02:08:43 PM
magkano range ng price nun at san available? :-) ty sir, sorry noob talaga
60k+++ ang SRP at JB music ang distributor.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: rebiscoco on July 27, 2013, 01:08:37 PM
Hello Pinoydrums,
I just want to ask about your opinion on the following drum sets:
*Assuming it will only be used at home and for jamming purposes *For alternative music only, no heavy music playing like metal
A. Pearl Target B. Pearl Forum C. Ludwig Accent CS Combo
Probably just a brief pros and cons for each. also in term of durability.
I'm a guitarist so I'm just seeking opinions from you drummer guys. :)
Thanks pinoydrums!
Title: Beginner drummer po. need advice po.
Post by: lockedonstratos on August 02, 2013, 08:52:59 PM
Months pa lang ako nagdudrums mga sir. may inoofer po sakin eto:
Fernando drumset (w/ stock hihat n crash): 13k Ride stand: 1.8k zildjian ride cymbals :4.5k
brand new po lahat. papatusin ko po ba? isa lang po kasi music shop sa lugar namin, and nagtataka po ako kung bakit walang warranty. ganon po ba talaga? if ever na OK lang na walang warranty. justified naman po ba yung price ng mga items?
Title: Re: Beginner drummer po. need advice po.
Post by: Mypranaproject on August 02, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
Hi bro, san ba location mo? Sa pagkaka alam ko wala naman talaga warranty ang drums e. Basta check everything before you buy. Check the lugs if snug yung dikit sa drum shell, check the tom mounts and height adjustments ng stands if fully functional. Anong zildjian ride yung offer sa iyo? I wouldn't recommend the stock Fernando hihats and crash kasi madaling mapunit yun and crappy talaga ang sound. If you can stretch your budget, get a zildjian zbt set, Sabian B8 or Paiste 201 set...Okay naman ang Fernando e. I used to own one. I used it for 15 years then I sold it para mag upgrade to a Tama drum set. Alagaan mo lang para mabebenta mo pa at a good price.
Title: Re: Beginner drummer po. need advice po.
Post by: lockedonstratos on August 02, 2013, 09:52:16 PM
Hi bro, san ba location mo? Sa pagkaka alam ko wala naman talaga warranty ang drums e. Basta check everything before you buy. Check the lugs if snug yung dikit sa drum shell, check the tom mounts and height adjustments ng stands if fully functional. Anong zildjian ride yung offer sa iyo? I wouldn't recommend the stock Fernando hihats and crash kasi madaling mapunit yun and crappy talaga ang sound. If you can stretch your budget, get a zildjian zbt set, Sabian B8 or Paiste 201 set...Okay naman ang Fernando e. I used to own one. I used it for 15 years then I sold it para mag upgrade to a Tama drum set. Alagaan mo lang para mabebenta mo pa at a good price.
Sir Baliwag area po. in the mean time lang po yung mga stock cymbals. pag nakapag-ipon na po, papalitan ko rin :D. 20" zbt ride po yung ino-offer. reasonable naman po ba yung mga price?
Title: Re: Beginner drummer po. need advice po.
Post by: Mypranaproject on August 02, 2013, 10:47:38 PM
If brand new lahat, tingin ko okay lang ang price. Considering wala ka nang traspo expenses compared to buying sa Raon for the same Fernando set with stock cymbals...
Title: Re: Beginner drummer po. need advice po.
Post by: lockedonstratos on August 02, 2013, 11:42:06 PM
thank you po Mypranaproject. your suggestion helped me alot !
Title: Gibraltar Stealth vertical Mounting System
Post by: JomataR on August 23, 2013, 08:34:10 PM
Hello po. May gumagamit po ba sainyo ng Gibraltar stealth vertical mounting? Any review? :drool: Gusto ko po sana bumili nito eh. Meron po ba nito sa JB? And how much po? :-D
ask ko lang po kung reasonable price po ba yung 550pesos para sa premier mufflers . yung transparent po na rings. nagaalangan ako sa price e :cry:
300php yung bili ko nung sakin.. pero di ko na din nagamit simula nung nagpalit ako ng drum heads.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on September 06, 2013, 07:38:27 PM
Tanong ko lang po kung magkano ang Zoom Q3HD sa JB ngayon? Thanks!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on September 09, 2013, 07:44:13 PM
alam ko 15k? check ko bukas.. bili ka na lang ng q3 na hindi hd,bagsak presyo,im planning to get one,i think 8k na lang siya.hehe,pero kelangan ko ipad muna,hehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on September 10, 2013, 06:27:28 PM
alam ko 15k? check ko bukas.. bili ka na lang ng q3 na hindi hd,bagsak presyo,im planning to get one,i think 8k na lang siya.hehe,pero kelangan ko ipad muna,hehe
Hahahaha! Thanks thanks thanks! :) Dumaan ako kanina sa JB SM North. 22k daw yung Q3HD minus 5% pa daw.. Meron naman Q2HD, yun naman nasa 8k.. Naghanap ako ng Q3 na hindi HD wala ako nakita :(
Title: Good first set Electronic Drum Set?
Post by: waterborne on October 06, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
Hello mga sir!
Hingi po sana ako ng advice sa mga expert drummers :-D
Balak ko po kasi bumili ng Electronic Drumset, first time ko po. Matagal na naman ako nag-drudrums, personal hobby lang. Mga 5 years+ na.
Tanong ko lang sana, anong magandang first time Electronic Drum Set na good quality at value for Money? Tsaka san kaya maganda bumili? Budget ko sana around 35K - 50K.
May nakita ako na electronic drums, etong mga to:
Medeli DD 518X - around 42K Medeli DD 508 - around 49K Medeli DD 506 - around 36K
Dun sa DD 518X, natutuwa na ko kasi mahal sya dati naka promo lang.
Meron pa kaya mas maganda dun sa value na un?
Thanks mga sir! :-D
Edit:
Yung current set ko pala, yung Lazer drumset lang hehe, hindi na kasi napalitan e. Pero meron ako double bass pedal. Pwede kaya ilagay yun sa electronic drumset ko, parang naka double peds?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: aHeartThatNeverFade on October 07, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
Hi sir. I want to ask lang if anong magandang 16"-18" Crash cymbal ang pwede sa 10k budget? Yung tipong di manipis like paiste 101. I'm a guitarist. Just want to change our cymbals sa simbahan namin dahil punit na. TIA!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 07, 2013, 11:07:43 PM
Hi sir. I want to ask lang if anong magandang 16"-18" Crash cymbal ang pwede sa 10k budget? Yung tipong di manipis like paiste 101. I'm a guitarist. Just want to change our cymbals sa simbahan namin dahil punit na. TIA!
Hi, you could opt to go with AAX stage crashes via the local classifieds here in PM. that was the first thing that popped in my mind based sa overall description mo.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: SilenceDogood on October 27, 2013, 10:49:27 AM
Pips, tanong lang about sa stands ng snare drum. Wala pa kasi ako alam eh :D may size ba yung sanre drum stand? kunwari parang may 10" snare ako, kakasya ba siya sa isang stand na ang nakapataong eh mas malaking snare? sorry kung medyo noob yung tanong, wala pa kasi akong idea sa mga ganyan. Peace! \m/ :D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: aHeartThatNeverFade on October 29, 2013, 03:56:35 PM
Hi, you could opt to go with AAX stage crashes via the local classifieds here in PM. that was the first thing that popped in my mind based sa overall description mo.
Thanks sir.. :)))
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sgt_chibog on October 30, 2013, 10:14:12 PM
Hey guys, I wanna start playing drums and I have limited space in my room and I want to keep it simple. I was thinking of purchasing a three piece kit for starters, would that be a good idea?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vidal4109 on November 13, 2013, 11:18:59 AM
Gud am po mga Katambolero tanung ko lng po kung saan mkkabili ng drum throne na prang sa bike po ang style, ung sa pwetan lng po ang rounded? Kasi po halos nkikita ko puro rounded lhat, wlang style katulad sa bike, may alam po b kau kung saan mkkabili.? Thanks po. :wave: :-D :-o :-P :wink: :? :) :cool:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on November 13, 2013, 11:54:29 AM
basix brand 3500 sa lazer
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: vidal4109 on November 13, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
ayun tnx po sir, may back rest po b un?? :) :-D :wave: :wink:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: goodboykent0213 on November 26, 2013, 07:46:06 PM
Mga bossing hihingi po kami ng advice , first time po kami bibili ng drumset ang venue po church sanctuary mga 300-400 persons po ang kaya nya i accomodate , kahoy po ung pader and tiles naman po ung sahig , usually kulob po kasi airconditioned so kailangan sealed po ung lugar , bass guitar , acoustic guitar and keyboard po yung ibang instruments , unmiked po muna sa ngayon ung drums if ever na magkaroon , ung music genre naman po hindi naman palaging rock , may halo ding mellow songs given na church setup po . Hindi naman po problema ung tunog ang importante po sulit sya. Ang idea po na bibilhin is 5pc lang po , matibay ung hardware , and K-customs (hi-hat,crash,ride) po sana , ang budget po is 40-80k , ang malapit po is jb music and audiophile robinsons otis . Sobrang laking tulong po ng mga advice na mabibigay nyo , salamat po have a blessed day
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on November 26, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
sayang di kayo umabot sa jb sale. kung brand new set gusto mo e,meron naman pasok sa budget niyo both stores. sa audiophile they have a discount if you pay cash(i think) sa jb meron namang discount,as for cymbals are concerned brand new k customs,nakasale ata ang hybrid set ng k custom sa jb,around 40K tapos samahan mo na ng kudwig,pearl of gretsch drums dun,pasok na yun sa 80k budget. or kung di naman asap,may mga sellers dito na nagbebenta ng mas mababa sa sale price ng mga stores,pero there is a risk na alamin mo muna ang bibilin mo. baka mamaya di mo gusto mabili mo research. basta may pera madali na yan, :-D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: reynex on November 27, 2013, 09:51:43 PM
mga sir! ask lng po
beginner lng po ako hingi sana advice
balak ko po bumili ng fernando drums na naka remo heads... maganda po ba tunog nun? saka anu po magandang hi-hat crash at ride na pamalit?
saka san po maganda bumili ng drumset na yan? yung mura at goodquality
salamat po!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: raye on November 27, 2013, 10:30:43 PM
balak ko po bumili ng fernando drums na naka remo heads... maganda po ba tunog nun? saka anu po magandang hi-hat crash at ride na pamalit?
saka san po maganda bumili ng drumset na yan? yung mura at goodquality
salamat po!
JB music at Salonga ang distributor ng brand na Fernando....but if i were you, antayin mo nalang ang sale nila para for sure na mas makakamura ka. regarding sa cymbals, depende na 'yan sa kung magkano ang budget mo. as we all know e mahal ang branded at hiend cymbals set
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: reynex on November 29, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
mga sir ask po ulet! :)
anu po ba maganda electronic drums kasi d pde acoustic drums d2 samen maingay baka makabulabog kapitbahay XD suggest po kayo ng brad ng e-drums saka magkano price nun at san maganda bumili salamat po!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: raye on November 29, 2013, 11:11:34 PM
anu po ba maganda electronic drums kasi d pde acoustic drums d2 samen maingay baka makabulabog kapitbahay XD suggest po kayo ng brad ng e-drums saka magkano price nun at san maganda bumili salamat po!
Roland V-drums...period! yupangco ang distributor at 40k+ ang pinakamura!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Peter on December 12, 2013, 10:47:49 PM
Balak ko bumili ng cymbals. Due to limited budget dadahandahanin ko lang per piece hanggang mabuo ko planned setup ko (Hihats, 2crash, 1ride). Ano kaya maganda unahin ko bilhin para may magamit na ako sa gigs.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Riff_6603 on December 12, 2013, 11:57:47 PM
Balak ko bumili ng cymbals. Due to limited budget dadahandahanin ko lang per piece hanggang mabuo ko planned setup ko (Hihats, 2crash, 1ride). Ano kaya maganda unahin ko bilhin para may magamit na ako sa gigs.
That depends on the type of music you'll be playing. If ever, a ride (a crashable one at best) would be great kung wala ka pang sariling crash and you need something to keep time with as well. saka mo na isunod yung hats then huli na yung crashes.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on December 13, 2013, 12:51:04 PM
Balak ko bumili ng cymbals. Due to limited budget dadahandahanin ko lang per piece hanggang mabuo ko planned setup ko (Hihats, 2crash, 1ride). Ano kaya maganda unahin ko bilhin para may magamit na ako sa gigs.
My opinion, unahin mo ang Crash, sunod hihats tapos ride.
Crash kasi ang usually noticeable ang quality kasi iba ang buga ng tunog siya. unlike sa ride and Hihats, kahit yung mga entry level models like Planet Z, pwede mo pagtiyagaan. pero yung crash, hindi talaga eh. hahaha
advice lang po ito :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: TagaRetiro on December 26, 2013, 02:19:21 PM
Plano ko po kasing palitan yung cymbals nung drum set namin sobrang pangit kasi ng tunog. Any suggestions po for a good cymbal set for a beginner?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on December 26, 2013, 02:31:17 PM
Plano ko po kasing palitan yung cymbals nung drum set namin sobrang pangit kasi ng tunog. Any suggestions po for a good cymbal set for a beginner?
Budget natin sir? tska ano po yung age and level nung gagamit nung kit? :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: TagaRetiro on December 26, 2013, 05:44:07 PM
Below 20k sana for a crash ride saka hi-hat.
Hindi talaga ko nagdrudrums pero may drumset kasi sa bahay and ang sagwa ng tunog nung stock cymbals. Gusto ko lang ng medyo maayos na tunog para sa pumupunta sa bahay at nakikijam hehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on December 27, 2013, 09:23:49 AM
Hindi talaga ko nagdrudrums pero may drumset kasi sa bahay and ang sagwa ng tunog nung stock cymbals. Gusto ko lang ng medyo maayos na tunog para sa pumupunta sa bahay at nakikijam hehe
Malaki na pala ang budget mo bro! might as well get an Istanbul Set or bili ka na ng tingi tingi sa Classified dito :D
For the istanbul sets, you might wanna check out the Radiant or Sultan Series. I think pasok pa siya sa budget mo, and these are good sounding cymbals na sir :D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: raye on December 27, 2013, 04:24:25 PM
Hindi talaga ko nagdrudrums pero may drumset kasi sa bahay and ang sagwa ng tunog nung stock cymbals. Gusto ko lang ng medyo maayos na tunog para sa pumupunta sa bahay at nakikijam hehe
makakabili kana ng medyo hiend set of cymbals nyan abang abang ka nalang sa classified....
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: jeloh4x on December 30, 2013, 01:49:38 AM
QUestion lang po sir.. Magkanu po ba ang Tama Silverstar (birch wood)?? thanks po
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Peter on December 30, 2013, 06:31:11 AM
nalilito ako kung ano bibilhin ko stagg classic thin crash or wuhan brilliant crash for below 5k budget. grunge lang tugtugan.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 02, 2014, 10:10:35 AM
nalilito ako kung ano bibilhin ko stagg classic thin crash or wuhan brilliant crash for below 5k budget. grunge lang tugtugan.
Best to listen to them both personally sir! para alam mo kung ano yung mas type mo :)
IMHO though, The WUHANS are usually Thrashier. The Stagg Classics are somewhat close to the A Zildjians/Sabian AA's
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Bondz on January 05, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
My first post here. I'm not a drummer, apologies for my ignorance. A senior friend of mine in US is giving me (selling it for a very low giveaway price actually) a set of drums and letting me choose one of the two sets as per photos below. Am reluctant to ask for the specs, model, etc since nahihiya ako at Baka sa bilhin Nya choosy pa ko considering the low price, pero ang totoo choosy nga ako, maski sino naman mas gusto yung the best Kung my choices. Can any drum expert here please identify the model and help me decide. Both set comes complete with hard wares and zildjans. Here are the pictures though crappy with least description provided.
Ludwig Yr 1972, made in Germany, double tom, 24" ang bass drum. (http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q667/Dino_Bondoc/2014/0e2f6bd1d79367ae4afe3b2b7de889da_zps7db9c956.jpg)
Pearl Yr 1966, 22" bass drum, black remo quadrant (http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/q667/Dino_Bondoc/2014/713519c69c86f4c58b351c3303497123_zps5b73b1ea.jpg)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: yekoz on January 06, 2014, 11:56:22 AM
IMO test both drumsets and let your ear and feel be the verdict. For me Ludwig maybe its timeless classic and 24 bass drum.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 06, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
IMO test both drumsets and let your ear and feel be the verdict. For me Ludwig maybe its timeless classic and 24 bass drum.
+1 I'd also go with the ludwig. mukhang mas pogi din eh hahaha
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on January 06, 2014, 01:29:54 PM
ludwig. dont even think about it. everything about the drums look original.
o nga pala all ludwig drums from that period were made in america. there is no such thing as german made ludwigs.
pearls from 1962 are cheap entry level *thrash*
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Bondz on January 06, 2014, 08:13:55 PM
Salamat sa inyong mga suggestions, I might go for the Ludwig.
Title: noob ask : astro,regal or fernando?
Post by: hardcorehope on January 09, 2014, 01:15:42 PM
plano ko bumili ng practice only kit,
2nd hand lang muna sana.
ito yung mga option ko,
1. regal kit
2.astro kit
3.fernando kit
any comments, reviews mga sir?
salamat po
:)
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Title: Re: noob ask : astro,regal or fernando?
Post by: valadar on January 10, 2014, 11:25:14 AM
Check mo yung mga hardware sir lalo na yung mga lugs at tension rods. Mas maganda kung madali ka makakahanap ng mga ka match ng bibilin mo since 2nd hand sila. In my experience hindi mo maiiwasan na kalwangin yung mga hardware, when its time to replace them ang hirap maghanap ng parts. Go for the one na madali makahanap ng replacement parts.
Title: Re: noob ask : astro,regal or fernando?
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 10, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
I'd say sir, go for the fernando. The middle level kits of fernando are actually not bad, hardware quality is decent. Good heads lang katapat mo. :)
Title: Re: noob ask : astro,regal or fernando?
Post by: lockedonstratos on January 10, 2014, 10:39:38 PM
Fernando. actually fernando kit gamit ko :D pampractice ko lang sa bahay e. but if you're planning to use it on gigs in the future, invest ka sa mga higher end kits, btw correct me if i'm wrong, diba remo heads na mga fernando ngayon?
Title: Re: noob ask : astro,regal or fernando?
Post by: reinramirez on January 11, 2014, 12:06:28 PM
japeyks na remo yun, pero ok narin kaysa sa stock heads, samahan mo lang nung premier na muffler, yung pabilog na transparent (pero try mo muna kung ok sayo tunog, ok kasi sakin)
ito yung una kong setup
fernando drumset w/ remo skin(13k inc delivery and setup/tuneup sa bahay, di ako marunong eh inaassemble pa kasi yan) + cymbal w/ boom para sa(1.6k) + premier ride cymbal(1.2k) + premier muffler(400)
ito lang kaya ng budget, HTH sa plano mo
Title: Re: noob ask : astro,regal or fernando?
Post by: ronald_rko on January 12, 2014, 12:18:43 AM
saaan nabbili ung mga premier parts sir ? :)
Title: Re: noob ask : astro,regal or fernando?
Post by: reinramirez on January 13, 2014, 08:27:01 AM
kasama na dun na nagdeliver, bali ang hiwalay ko nalang na binili yung 20" na ride cymbal sa quiapo, kay 2rockgao.sulit.com.ph ako bumili pero parang wala syang naka post ,pm mo nlng alam ko di talaga sya nag iistock
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on January 16, 2014, 07:24:48 PM
Hi guys! I'm planning to buy a drum/cymbal rack. Any suggestions other than gibraltar? Thank you!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 17, 2014, 10:26:57 AM
Hi guys! I'm planning to buy a drum/cymbal rack. Any suggestions other than gibraltar? Thank you!
Reliability wise sir, go for the GIBRALTAR.
If you have a higher budget range, go for the PEARL (but it's all in all the same if you ask me)
If you have a low budget, you can try creating your own with Pipes and Clamps from the hardware store. there's a thread here regarding that DIY Project. Just use the search button :D
hope this helps! :D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on January 18, 2014, 10:39:33 PM
If you have a higher budget range, go for the PEARL (but it's all in all the same if you ask me)
If you have a low budget, you can try creating your own with Pipes and Clamps from the hardware store. there's a thread here regarding that DIY Project. Just use the search button :D
hope this helps! :D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: skrumian on January 19, 2014, 10:19:42 PM
Newbie question: Ano pa ibang model/brand/ alternative sa Pearl drums Rhythm Traveler? Saan din makakabili? I need compact practice drums with reliable hardware. TIA!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 20, 2014, 09:30:38 AM
Newbie question: Ano pa ibang model/brand/ alternative sa Pearl drums Rhythm Traveler? Saan din makakabili? I need compact practice drums with reliable hardware. TIA!
Hello Brother, you have the TRAPS Drumset being distributed by lyric. SO far siya yung alam kong pinakamalapit sa Pearl RT Series (i.e., portable, mas maliit, etc)
You can also opt for a jungle kit para mas madaling hanapin :D
Hope this helps!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: peeves24 on January 20, 2014, 10:14:14 AM
isa lang reklamo ko sa traps...gawa sa plastic ang karamihan ng parts :oops:
but its nice
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 20, 2014, 10:21:57 AM
isa lang reklamo ko sa traps...gawa sa plastic ang karamihan ng parts :oops:
but its nice
Uhuh. hahaha kung ako lang masusunod, sa jungle kit nalang ako para kay sir skrumian hahaha
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on January 20, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
Mga sir tanong lang po kung ano ba okay na cymbal bag na sulit for the price?
May nakita po akong cymbal bag by cxbags. Okay ba yun?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: skrumian on January 20, 2014, 02:54:44 PM
Check ko yang Traps pero kung plastic parts baka pass ako. reason naghahanap ako ng iba kase baka di tumagal ang pearl rhythm sa akin. lol. Siguro something with 18 to 20 kicks, then 10, 12, 14 toms. Tnx.
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Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 20, 2014, 03:12:41 PM
Check ko yang Traps pero kung plastic parts baka pass ako. reason naghahanap ako ng iba kase baka di tumagal ang pearl rhythm sa akin. lol. Siguro something with 18 to 20 kicks, then 10, 12, 14 toms. Tnx.
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Jungle Kits nga ata ang hanap mo brother man! :D mas okay nga yun kesa sa TRAPS and PEARL RT. :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 20, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
Mga sir tanong lang po kung ano ba okay na cymbal bag na sulit for the price?
May nakita po akong cymbal bag by cxbags. Okay ba yun?
Sir, best cymbal bags I've seen are the MEINL Cymbal Bag and the STAGG Cymbal Bag. lahat naman sir almost the same, pero try to consider these items when buying a cymbal bag:
1. May dividers ba per cymbal? (meaning, hindi magkakadikit ang cymbals sa loob ng bag?) 2. Matibay ba ang material na ginamit? 3. Matibay ba ang moving parts ng bag? (I.e. ZIPPERS, Handles) 4. Water repellant ba ang material na ginamit? 5. Makapal ba ang padding nung bag itself? 6. Kasya ba lahat ng cymbals ko? 7. Kasya ba ang width ng cymbals ko?
yan yung mga tinitingnan ko when I purchase cases for my babies. kung bibili ka lang kasi ng bag, might as well yung magtatagal na :)
BTW, I'm using a STAGG Cymbal bag. 22", heavily padded, decent moving parts, nylon, with dividers and a separate pocket for smaller cymbals like splashes and hihats.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on January 20, 2014, 03:36:26 PM
Maraming salamat sir! Bili na ako this weekend ng stagg na bag. :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: skrumian on January 20, 2014, 05:39:19 PM
Anong jungle kit brand ang may reliable na hardware? Around 20k-30k budget. Thanks!
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Usually bro ang jungle kits, binubuo siya. pero If I recall correctly, ang gretsch, tama at sonor meron. pareparehas reliable brands. might wanna check out JB and Audiophile for the models :D
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: theredd on January 27, 2014, 09:35:38 PM
question lang po about sa stagg cymbals. very interested po ako sa stagg as so far nakarinig po ako ng stagg cymbals and yes maganda nga sila at mura pa. pero dahil sa nasanay ako sa zildjian and sabian na merong ZBT and B8 (entry level cymabls) meron din bang ganito ang stagg? pumunta kasi ako sa website nila eh pero hindi naka specify kung anong cymbal line up ung entry ung sa pro. or baka nagkakamali ako at lahat sila pang pro na at nag iiba na lang para sa ibat ibang genre? thanks po :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 28, 2014, 09:29:59 AM
question lang po about sa stagg cymbals. very interested po ako sa stagg as so far nakarinig po ako ng stagg cymbals and yes maganda nga sila at mura pa. pero dahil sa nasanay ako sa zildjian and sabian na merong ZBT and B8 (entry level cymabls) meron din bang ganito ang stagg? pumunta kasi ako sa website nila eh pero hindi naka specify kung anong cymbal line up ung entry ung sa pro. or baka nagkakamali ako at lahat sila pang pro na at nag iiba na lang para sa ibat ibang genre? thanks po :)
Hello Sir!
Regarding stagg cymbals, as far as I know, wala silang model na made out of B8 bronze like ZBT and B8. Usually lahat ng models nila made off B20 Bronze. pero that does not mean na dahil B20 Bronze na siya, eh pro level na siya. the SH Models of stagg are meant for intermediate players as far as I recall. yung mga MYRA nila yung pang professional level.
But then again, there's no such thing as Professional or beginner cymbals. if you like what you hear, and you can afford it, BUY IT! :) hope this helps brother. :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: kimpoy19 on February 10, 2014, 09:27:42 PM
question lang po about sa stagg cymbals. very interested po ako sa stagg as so far nakarinig po ako ng stagg cymbals and yes maganda nga sila at mura pa. pero dahil sa nasanay ako sa zildjian and sabian na merong ZBT and B8 (entry level cymabls) meron din bang ganito ang stagg? pumunta kasi ako sa website nila eh pero hindi naka specify kung anong cymbal line up ung entry ung sa pro. or baka nagkakamali ako at lahat sila pang pro na at nag iiba na lang para sa ibat ibang genre? thanks po :)
Ok ako for SH ng Stagg. :) uhm a lot better sa ZBT(my opinion)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on February 20, 2014, 02:35:17 PM
Mga sir, does anyone here have tried using the vater cymbal bag? Parang okay siya para sa price niyang 2,100
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 20, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
Mga sir, does anyone here have tried using the vater cymbal bag? Parang okay siya para sa price niyang 2,100
Replied to you via the LAZER Products Thread!
Same Price with the TAMA and MEINL Cymbal Bag brother. might wanna go with the Meinl Bag. Better yet, yung kay STAGG, heavily padded na rin pero 899 PHP lang siya if I recall correctly.
Pero pinakamaganda yung kay MEINL sa mga nakita ko. ganun din ang price range. check it awt!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on February 20, 2014, 02:52:46 PM
I called lyric yesterday bro. 6,000 daw meinl cymbal bag nila. Gulat nga ako eh. Ang gusto ko sana yung tama kaso out of stock sa audiophile. May mga nag bebenta sa classifieds pero ang benta nila is 2-2,500 din. Might as well buy a bnew diba?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 20, 2014, 02:56:53 PM
^ Check out Jeff's Mono Cymbal Bags. Uber Cool! 8-)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 20, 2014, 03:10:28 PM
I called lyric yesterday bro. 6,000 daw meinl cymbal bag nila. Gulat nga ako eh. Ang gusto ko sana yung tama kaso out of stock sa audiophile. May mga nag bebenta sa classifieds pero ang benta nila is 2-2,500 din. Might as well buy a bnew diba?
WHAT??? talk about overpricing.
Okay lang naman kung secondhand, basta very good condish pa. iba kasi talaga yung meinl pare. parang hindi talaga bibigay. ako nakaSTAGG ngayon, pero nagagas ako dun sa meinl :|
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on February 20, 2014, 03:44:03 PM
Eto yung nakita ko na 3k pala http://themusicsource.ph/category/products/drums-percs/parts-accessories/
Yes sir. Exactly lke this :| di ko alam kung bakit naging 3,000. you might wanna call TMS baka nagkamali lang sila sa website. :|
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Baldr727 on February 20, 2014, 05:16:17 PM
Sige sir. Salamat!
Title: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Mark J on February 28, 2014, 09:21:42 AM
Hi guys, I'm a beginner sa Drums kaya I'm not that pro, marunong lang. Ano ba yung magandang drum kit na hindi expensive? Yung pang practice lang? Kasi gusto ko gumawa ng isang Mini-Studio sa bahay, for me and my friends, maybe papa-rent ko na rin. Kaya please help?
Ok din ba yung stock na GTX o GLOBAL na drum kit? May nakita kasi ako sa Sulit. Pero if you guys prefer a good one, maybe I'll change my mind. Yung cheap lang kasi mababa yung budget. Hehe.
Thank you in advance :-D
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 28, 2014, 09:40:50 AM
Buy a fernando kit, tapos palitan mo nalang ang mga heads.
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Mark J on February 28, 2014, 10:03:36 AM
Sir, anong magandang heads? And how much would a Fernando drum kit cost? Ok din ba yung Crash, Ride and Hats?
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 28, 2014, 10:07:47 AM
Depende sayo kung ano mas prefer mong heads. IMO, decent enough na kasi yung mga shell nung fernando kit para lumabas yung tunog ng mga Remo/Evans and the likes.
Sa Cymbals naman depende din sayo kung ano bibilin mo. Pede kang mag Zildjian ZBT's,ZHT's or Sabian b8's kung on buget ka. Pero kung meron naman go ka na dun sa mga high end na cymbals, magandang investment din yun lalo na kung itutuloy mo ang pag dudrums. Wag na wag kang bibili ng planet Z's sayang pera mo dun.
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Mark J on February 28, 2014, 10:10:53 AM
Alam mo ba yung mga prices within the Cymbals and yung Fernando drum kit? Mamaya pa kasi ako gagala dito Manila. I don't know the price in Iloilo kasi uuwi ako this Monday. So I do hope may makita akong magandang set pag-uwi ko :-(
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 28, 2014, 10:12:54 AM
Sorry I cant help you with that.
Feel free to look on the classifieds section, madaming good deal dun :)
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Mark J on February 28, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
Nyahahah. It's ok. Ok na ako na malaman Fernando drum kits are good. So hahanap nalang ako ng Fernando sa Iloilo. I do hope meron akong makitang magandang Kit. Una ko kasi nakitang cheap kit was yung Global, then yung GTX, pero meron nag sabi maganda yung Fernando. So I'm gonna research for more. :cute:
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 28, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
inquire ka sa JB Music kung brand new ang mga hanap mo. Matutulungan ka nila ^-^
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Mark J on February 28, 2014, 10:22:48 AM
Ikaw pala yung nagsabi na maganda yung kit ng Fernando. Ahahaha. Sorry, btw. Have you tried Fernando Drumkit? Kasi ako naka play na ako gamit ng Pearl at maganda sya. Noob kasi ako dati, makagamit lang ok nah. Now I know I need a good set.
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 28, 2014, 10:27:23 AM
Saan ko nasabi yun sir? sorry hindi ko matandan hehe
Yes maganda kung sa madanga ang pearl kit pero mahal. Nakagamit na ako ng fernando kit na naka Remo's sa studio ng kaibigan ko kaya ko nairecommend yun, decent enough if you'll ask me.
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 28, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
lahat ng sinabi ni Shane sa thread na to, I agree with. hahaha
Pero kung sa akin lang, di na ako magaaksaya ng cash sa ZBT. B8 siguro pwede or ZHT. pero yung ZBT, I'd rather get second hand staggs or istanbuls.
this is coming from a guy with ZBT as his main hats hahahaha!
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Mark J on February 28, 2014, 11:38:09 AM
I'm here in Manila pero babalik na ako ng Iloilo on March 3. So I'll be hunting drum kit components for budgeting at pag may pera na edi bili na ako agad. Just need to think first before I buy. Ok narin sakin kahit stock lang muna kasi practice mode lang man ako. Pero as you guys said, mas maganda yung hindi stock.
So thank you guys.
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 28, 2014, 11:43:20 AM
Buti nga ikaw Hats lang ang ZBT, ako lahat ng pie. :cry:
pero budget wise ZBT 3pcs+1 set is okay na okay na kaysa sa Planet Z cymbal pack na set to think na hindi sila nagkakalayo sa presyo.
Hindi rin masyado nalalayo ang Bnew ZBT set sa isang set ng magandang 2nd hand cymbals eh. nasa 15-16k ang bnew na set, sabihin na nating 15.5 average. makakabili ka na ng decent set dito either staggs or istanbul hahaha
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: robertshanepascual on February 28, 2014, 12:10:32 PM
ZBT 3+1 cymbal pack is around 11k. kaso 13" 14" at 16" crash ride lang ata yung size.
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 28, 2014, 12:31:02 PM
ZBT 3+1 cymbal pack is around 11k. kaso 13" 14" at 16" crash ride lang ata yung size.
Im referring to the 14, 16, 20 sizes. the 13 14 and 18 are only good for home use eh. so kung magsheshell out ka ng 11k, tapos magigig ka rin in the long run, sayang lang din kasi malamang sa malamang ibebenta mo rin. isa pang issue kasi dito sobrang bilis mabasag ng ZBTs eh.
kung purely home use, at wala namang balak magupgrade kumbaga, siguro call na rin dun sa 3+1 hahaha
Title: Re: Need help drum kit for beginners.
Post by: reinramirez on February 28, 2014, 01:22:27 PM
buy pro level cymbals kahit 2nd hand lang at kahit isang piraso lang, wag kana mag sayang ng pera sa mas mababa pa dun ibebenta mo din yan
Title: is it ok to buy rusty 2nd hand cymbals no dents or cracks..
Post by: anton08 on April 02, 2014, 10:16:52 PM
I need your suggestion sir thanks..
Title: Re: is it ok to buy rusty 2nd hand cymbals no dents or cracks..
Post by: harugrugrug on April 03, 2014, 05:00:38 AM
well, iba ang rust sa patina. kasi para sakin ang patina, nagaadd ng character sa cymbals eh. yung rust, sadyang nakakasira lang. pero I've never seen a cymbal with rust. so i want to be sure kung rust nga yung sinasabi ni Anton08
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: robertshanepascual on April 03, 2014, 09:59:07 AM
well, iba ang rust sa patina. kasi para sakin ang patina, nagaadd ng character sa cymbals eh. yung rust, sadyang nakakasira lang. pero I've never seen a cymbal with rust. so i want to be sure kung rust nga yung sinasabi ni Anton08
Ah i see. Baka naman bakal yung cymbals nya kaya kinakalawang :-D.
Yung ZBT Crash ko sa bahay nung bago pa, hinawakan ko ng basa kung kamay ko, ade bumakat yung hand print ko hanggang sa natuyo. Ayaw na nya matanggal ngayon kapag pinupunasan ng basahan, tapos may kulay green at ma orange orange sa gilid. Yun yun patina tama?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 03, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
Ah i see. Baka naman bakal yung cymbals nya kaya kinakalawang :-D.
Yung ZBT Crash ko sa bahay nung bago pa, hinawakan ko ng basa kung kamay ko, ade bumakat yung hand print ko hanggang sa natuyo. Ayaw na nya matanggal ngayon kapag pinupunasan ng basahan, tapos may kulay green at ma orange orange sa gilid. Yun yun patina tama?
Yes, patina.m and a wee bit of tarnishing hahahaha grabe acidity ng pawis mo shane! =))
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: robertshanepascual on April 03, 2014, 10:05:53 AM
Yes, patina.m and a wee bit of tarnishing hahahaha grabe acidity ng pawis mo shane! =))
hahahaha! sa sobrang na exitan ko nun sa cymbals set na yun hindi na ako ng fan nun, tuloy salampak na sa sahig, assemble na at patong nung cymbals sa stand kaya ganun. hehe picturan ko nga yung crash at ride naka bakat na yung mga kamay ko ayaw na matanggal. :lol:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on April 04, 2014, 09:10:38 AM
hahahaha! sa sobrang na exitan ko nun sa cymbals set na yun hindi na ako ng fan nun, tuloy salampak na sa sahig, assemble na at patong nung cymbals sa stand kaya ganun. hehe picturan ko nga yung crash at ride naka bakat na yung mga kamay ko ayaw na matanggal. :lol:
Grabe kamay mo,hehe, Nasan na ts? Pics naman dyannnn,hehe.first time ako makakakita ng kalawang sa cymbals
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: brownbread on April 10, 2014, 11:34:44 PM
mGA sir ano main difference ng B8 at B8 pro ng sabian
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 11, 2014, 09:59:46 AM
Please give me the cheapest items na maiirecommend nyo below.
1 Planet Z Cymbals Set 1 Snare Drum Stand 1 Hihat Stand 1 Bass Pedal 1 Remo Drumhead Pack(for Fernando Standard drumset)
12k lang po budget ko. Kaya ba? kasi hinde nagrereply mga taga JB music sa message ko :cry:
Thanks..
Abot budget mo,pero invest on 2nd hand items.yung skin na lang I brand new mo.
Title: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 15, 2014, 11:38:42 AM
GUys our church will be buying our first drum kit this month, I have already search the forum and can still not find what I've been looking for...
Can you please help me decide what brand is best suited for our budget of P40-50k? With this budget can I already have a decent set of cymbals too?
One more thing, should I need to buy a new set of skins/drum heads to replace the skin/drum heads that came with the kit?
TIA Philmusic...
God bless everyone.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: inigo on May 15, 2014, 11:58:35 AM
Assuming that you'll go brand new, it is best to approach a store and tell them your budget. All stores will have some sort of kit or package that fits your budget. Don't hesitate to tell them that you will be canvassing through all the stores and don't hesitate to show them your choices from the other stores.
Yes, you can have a decent set of cymbals for that budget. Make sure that you don't get a package with brass cymbals, because they break easily. Make sure that you're getting bronze cymbals. At this point, any kind of bronze will be fine... upgrade na lang later if you feel like it. If the store doesn't know what kind of metal their cymbals are, don't buy.
You don't need to replace the skins/heads if they are big brands, such as Yamaha, Pearl, Tama, PDP, DW, DDrum, etc. If they are China rebrand brands (RJ, Lazer, etc), replace the heads, because they sound like [gooey brown stuff] and are impossible to tune. For heads, Lyric has the best prices for the quality (Aquarian heads).
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 15, 2014, 12:10:38 PM
Assuming that you'll go brand new, it is best to approach a store and tell them your budget. All stores will have some sort of kit or package that fits your budget. Don't hesitate to tell them that you will be canvassing through all the stores and don't hesitate to show them your choices from the other stores.
Yes, you can have a decent set of cymbals for that budget. Make sure that you don't get a package with brass cymbals, because they break easily. Make sure that you're getting bronze cymbals. At this point, any kind of bronze will be fine... upgrade na lang later if you feel like it. If the store doesn't know what kind of metal their cymbals are, don't buy.
You don't need to replace the skins/heads if they are big brands, such as Yamaha, Pearl, Tama, PDP, DW, DDrum, etc. If they are China rebrand brands (RJ, Lazer, etc), replace the heads, because they sound like [gooey brown stuff] and are impossible to tune. For heads, Lyric has the best prices for the quality (Aquarian heads).
Maraming salamat Po sir Inigo... Yes we're eyeing for a brand new kit.
Im afraid due to our location my choices are only limited to these brands, Pearl, Tama, Sonor and Ludwig. Of these four brands mentioned which of them are of good buy if all are of the same price range (say P35-40k)...
Unfortunately though, we only have two music stores around here. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: inigo on May 15, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Im afraid due to our location my choices are only limited to these brands, Pearl, Tama, Sonor and Ludwig. Of these four brands mentioned which of them are of good buy if all are of the same price range (say P35-40k)...
Unfortunately though, we only have two music stores around here. :cry: :cry: :cry:
Ayus. Both JB and Audiophile have cymbal packages that are decent enough.
Any of those brands will be fine. Although I don't know how much their kits are nowadays. Best to ask them.
Also ask if they have a sale period coming up soon. I think may mid-year sale ang JB.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 15, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
There you go bro. i agree with what bro inigo said. my advise is to get a pearl or gretsch kit with ZBT Cymbals if you're eyeing for bnew kits. These are from JB Music.
or a Basix or DrumCraft kit from LAZER then get a cymbal set like istanbul.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 15, 2014, 02:00:42 PM
Maraming salamat po Sir Inigo at Sir Ralph, maa-asahan talaga ang mga tao dito sa PM hehehe.... Now, I exactly know what to look for... So excited for our first Drum Kit... :-D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 15, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
It seems that JB Music, Centrio Mall Cagayan de Oro staff doesnt want to have a sell. My queries for their available drum kits falls on deaf ears... Just asking for a price list ng mga available drum kits nila at Cymbals para makapagpili, hindi na ako sinagot hehehehe.... Busy lang siguro o di kaya play money siguro itong pera ko hehehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: IncX on May 15, 2014, 03:40:48 PM
It seems that JB Music, Centrio Mall Cagayan de Oro staff doesnt want to have a sell. My queries for their available drum kits falls on deaf ears... Just asking for a price list ng mga available drum kits nila at Cymbals para makapagpili, hindi na ako sinagot hehehehe.... Busy lang siguro o di kaya play money siguro itong pera ko hehehe
talk to the manager. music store employees are lazy and wont entertain you. they dont care if they make a sale or not, their wages remain the same regardless
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 15, 2014, 03:51:24 PM
talk to the manager. music store employees are lazy and wont entertain you. they dont care if they make a sale or not, their wages remain the same regardless
I will surely do that Sir IncX next time na makabalik ako sa store nila, sayang another opportunity loss for their company...
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 15, 2014, 08:44:15 PM
Baka di sila naquota kaya tamad sila,hehe,bilangan mo ng pera sa Harap niya sabay walkout pag inentertain Ka,hehe,ako din I talk to the manager and tell them Na di man lang ako inentertain ng maayos,I've done it recently sa executive optical.malas pa Nila bad mood ako nun talaga.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 18, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Mga Sirs ask po ako ulit, I have narrowed down my choices between this two kits.... Tama Rhythm Mater, P27,500.00 at Pearl Target TGC-625 P28,400.00... Alin kaya sa dalawa ang pipiliin niyo? at bakit? Thanks again PM.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 19, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
Mga Sirs ask po ako ulit, I have narrowed down my choices between this two kits.... Tama Rhythm Mater, P27,500.00 at Pearl Target TGC-625 P28,400.00... Alin kaya sa dalawa ang pipiliin niyo? at bakit? Thanks again PM.
TAMA Rhythm Mate siguro. at least virgin yung toms kahit papano. pero I'm biased sa pearl kasi I'm sure the pearl will sound great.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 19, 2014, 11:56:10 AM
Kung planet z naman cymbals compared sa Tama stock e pearl nako,hehe,
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 19, 2014, 12:20:52 PM
Mga Sirs ask po ako ulit, I have narrowed down my choices between this two kits.... Tama Rhythm Mater, P27,500.00 at Pearl Target TGC-625 P28,400.00... Alin kaya sa dalawa ang pipiliin niyo? at bakit? Thanks again PM.
TAMA Rhythm Mate nalang at Paiste 201 BRONZE UNIVERSAL SET.
Wala naman stock cymbals ang Rhythm Mate.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: inigo on May 19, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
Mga Sirs ask po ako ulit, I have narrowed down my choices between this two kits.... Tama Rhythm Mater, P27,500.00 at Pearl Target TGC-625 P28,400.00... Alin kaya sa dalawa ang pipiliin niyo? at bakit? Thanks again PM.
Sa Tama Rhythm Mate ako, dahil lang sa dimensions ng toms. Mas shallow sya, so mas maraming flexibility sa positioning.
Tingin ko in other functional aspects, pareho lang sila ng Pearl Target.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: gandydancer123 on May 19, 2014, 05:56:42 PM
TAMA na! and dont patronize the store who snubbed you..if no choice talk to the manager and let him/her know sh*tty service you experienced...
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 19, 2014, 05:58:12 PM
Parehas maaasahan na brands naman yan sirs. so nasa taste mo na yan. at kung sino ang may better packaged cymbals HAHAHAAHAH
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 19, 2014, 09:37:22 PM
Mag toss coin Ka na lang,hehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 20, 2014, 08:07:20 AM
Parang nakalamang ang Tama Rhythm Mate, I think I would go for the Tama and then buy a set of cymbals, or piece by piece kaya?
If I would go with this route, kasya kaya ang 40K 1.Stagg 14”SH Rock Hihat or Istanbul HHS 14” Hihat, 2. Stagg Classic Series 16” thin crash 3. Istanbul ML Ride 20” or Sabian b5 Pro 20” Medium Ride
Or bili na lang ako nito Sabian 35003 B8 Pro Performance Set.
Akala ko madali lang ang bumili ng drumkit, and hirap pala hehehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 20, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
Parang nakalamang ang Tama Rhythm Mate, I think I would go for the Tama and then buy a set of cymbals, or piece by piece kaya?
If I would go with this route, kasya kaya ang 40K 1.Stagg 14”SH Rock Hihat or Istanbul HHS 14” Hihat, 2. Stagg Classic Series 16” thin crash 3. Istanbul ML Ride 20” or Sabian b5 Pro 20” Medium Ride
Or bili na lang ako nito Sabian 35003 B8 Pro Performance Set.
Akala ko madali lang ang bumili ng drumkit, and hirap pala hehehe
Merton nagbebenta ng Istanbul radiant 10k set yun,pero with shipping and I know he's trusted naman,might check that out.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 20, 2014, 09:57:34 AM
Parang nakalamang ang Tama Rhythm Mate, I think I would go for the Tama and then buy a set of cymbals, or piece by piece kaya?
If I would go with this route, kasya kaya ang 40K 1.Stagg 14”SH Rock Hihat or Istanbul HHS 14” Hihat, 2. Stagg Classic Series 16” thin crash 3. Istanbul ML Ride 20” or Sabian b5 Pro 20” Medium Ride
Or bili na lang ako nito Sabian 35003 B8 Pro Performance Set.
Akala ko madali lang ang bumili ng drumkit, and hirap pala hehehe
Sir isipin mo nalang na it's a nice problem to have... :-D I agree with the radiants sulit ka na dun sa price offer...kukunin ko rin yun kung kailangan ko ng cymbals...take note those are cast b20 bronze! san ka pa
As for the drums...kung masara nyo deal sa radiants, why not push for tama silverstars or pearl exports! baka kayang pilitin
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 20, 2014, 05:35:25 PM
Sir isipin mo nalang na it's a nice problem to have... :-D I agree with the radiants sulit ka na dun sa price offer...kukunin ko rin yun kung kailangan ko ng cymbals...take note those are cast b20 bronze! san ka pa
As for the drums...kung masara nyo deal sa radiants, why not push for tama silverstars or pearl exports! baka kayang pilitin
+1... hahahha ang saya ng maraming pera tapos mamimili ka lang =))
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 20, 2014, 09:38:05 PM
Uu nga.kung kaya naman budget. :cute:
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on May 21, 2014, 10:03:49 AM
Maraming salamat sa mga inputs mga sir, pag-iisipan to ng mabuti kasi long term investment din hehehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 21, 2014, 10:52:38 AM
IMHO, Gretsch does not level with tama in terms of the hardware quality (i.e. Lugs, hoops). Tama pa rin hahahaha
Marame talagang taong galit sa Gretsch! Ahahaha. Papi Ralph, hindi naman lahat ng Gretsch may problema sa hardware. May iba sabi, yung mga gawang China na Gretsch may problema sa mounting hardware. May iba naman sabi swertehan lang rin sa nakuhang model. Well isa ako sa mga swerte, mag 4 years na saken yung Gretsch Catalina Maple ko, okay na okay pa rin. Ilang beses ko na rin nagamit sa gigs at jamming, hindi pa naman niya ko pinahiya o napahiya. Hehe.
Anyway, hindi ko rin naman sinasabing mali ka sa opinion mo, ako po mismo nakasubok na ng Tama. Maganda rin mga hardware niya. Kanya kanyang trip lang rin talaga eh. Mas trip ko Gibraltar. :cool:
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 23, 2014, 08:28:35 PM
Marame talagang taong galit sa Gretsch! Ahahaha. Papi Ralph, hindi naman lahat ng Gretsch may problema sa hardware. May iba sabi, yung mga gawang China na Gretsch may problema sa mounting hardware. May iba naman sabi swertehan lang rin sa nakuhang model. Well isa ako sa mga swerte, mag 4 years na saken yung Gretsch Catalina Maple ko, okay na okay pa rin. Ilang beses ko na rin nagamit sa gigs at jamming, hindi pa naman niya ko pinahiya o napahiya. Hehe.
Anyway, hindi ko rin naman sinasabing mali ka sa opinion mo, ako po mismo nakasubok na ng Tama. Maganda rin mga hardware niya. Kanya kanyang trip lang rin talaga eh. Mas trip ko Gibraltar. :cool:
Naging prob talaga ng gretsch yan ,mga paps,pero tinanggal na nila yung china factory na yun.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: fretboard on May 24, 2014, 08:25:57 AM
kasama ba mga high end models ng gretsch?
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 24, 2014, 11:36:38 AM
Catalina series po to be exact paps
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 27, 2014, 10:17:53 AM
Marame talagang taong galit sa Gretsch! Ahahaha. Papi Ralph, hindi naman lahat ng Gretsch may problema sa hardware. May iba sabi, yung mga gawang China na Gretsch may problema sa mounting hardware. May iba naman sabi swertehan lang rin sa nakuhang model. Well isa ako sa mga swerte, mag 4 years na saken yung Gretsch Catalina Maple ko, okay na okay pa rin. Ilang beses ko na rin nagamit sa gigs at jamming, hindi pa naman niya ko pinahiya o napahiya. Hehe.
Anyway, hindi ko rin naman sinasabing mali ka sa opinion mo, ako po mismo nakasubok na ng Tama. Maganda rin mga hardware niya. Kanya kanyang trip lang rin talaga eh. Mas trip ko Gibraltar. :cool:
YAN ETO YAN> yung sa catalina na mounting system. :| pati yung lugs problematic. whew. pero yes, totally agree, amganda rin naman ang gibraltar, very dependable. pero wala eh, iba yung TAMA <3 hahahahaha
also, kung gretsch renown series sigurio, GAME. hahahaha!
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 27, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
YAN ETO YAN> yung sa catalina na mounting system. :| pati yung lugs problematic. whew. pero yes, totally agree, amganda rin naman ang gibraltar, very dependable. pero wala eh, iba yung TAMA <3 hahahahaha
also, kung gretsch renown series sigurio, GAME. hahahaha!
Yung drums na gretsch ni vinnie sa 19 east! Hehe,yup I think resolved na ang issue sa lugs ng gretsch
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: musicianurse28 on May 27, 2014, 10:23:15 PM
YAN ETO YAN> yung sa catalina na mounting system. :| pati yung lugs problematic. whew. pero yes, totally agree, amganda rin naman ang gibraltar, very dependable. pero wala eh, iba yung TAMA <3 hahahahaha
also, kung gretsch renown series sigurio, GAME. hahahaha!
OT: Papi Ralph, yung bagong Gretsch Renown 2013 na Satin White. Meron na ba tayo nun dito sa Pinas? Wala pa ata eh noh? Yon mismo yon. Itsura pa lang!
BTT: Oo yung mga Renown Series mismo! Napaka-sarap! Highly recommended din para sa mga nagbabalak kumuha ng disenteng drums na hindi ka bibigyan ng sakit ng ulo sa mga mounting hardware.
Yung drums na gretsch ni vinnie sa 19 east! Hehe,yup I think resolved na ang issue sa lugs ng gretsch
Pangarap ko yang Gretsch signature ni lolo Vinnie. :-( Kaso napakamahal. Nung pinagiipunan ko na para sumugal ng napakalaking halaga, walangya, bigla naman siyang umalis sa Gretsch. Wala na ring ginagawang signature set niya. Kahit nga yung signature snare niya sa Gretsch wala na rin. Sobrang rare. :-(
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 27, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Hehe,heuer drums na siya ngayon,hehe. Yung taga Cebu na tinanung ko sayo dati,awitan mo snare niya paguwi niya byahe,hehe.
Sorry sa ot Gibraltar ba ang mounting hardware ng Gretsch?
To ts,Anu na update ng kit mo? Pics namannnn...
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: musicianurse28 on May 27, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Hehe,heuer drums na siya ngayon,hehe. Yung taga Cebu na tinanung ko sayo dati,awitan mo snare niya paguwi niya byahe,hehe.
Sorry sa ot Gibraltar ba ang mounting hardware ng Gretsch?
To ts,Anu na update ng kit mo? Pics namannnn...
Haha. Wala nakong balita sa kanya. Dibale pag natyempuhan ko minsan. Hehe
Ot: Based sa sinabi ng Gretsch, wala silang sariling hardware. Gibraltar lang talaga ang gumagawa para sa kanila. Pero sa ibang nakita ko naman, may hardware ang Gretsch na tatak Gretsch mismo at wala ni isang sticker o logo ng Gibraltar. Actually meron sa site nila eh. Mga mounting hardware na Gretsch, tas yung iba Gibraltar na.
To TS: Oo nga updates naman. Baka mapagalitan na kame dito puro OT na ata. Sorry mods :oops:
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 28, 2014, 10:01:38 AM
Gibraltar usually ang hardware ni gretsch.
Papi Musician Nurse, solid nga yung RENOWN in WHITE :((( yun din yung tinutukoy ko nung sinabi kong renown huhuhuhu tsalap!
@alvin, oo papa, yung sa 19east... hayop din yon! kaso ang gusto kong kit nila is yung yamaha :D kumakanta yung toms eh :D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on May 28, 2014, 08:06:34 PM
Papi Musician Nurse, solid nga yung RENOWN in WHITE :((( yun din yung tinutukoy ko nung sinabi kong renown huhuhuhu tsalap!
@alvin, oo papa, yung sa 19east... hayop din yon! kaso ang gusto kong kit nila is yung yamaha :D kumakanta yung toms eh :D
Tama na paps! Super ot na tayoooo! Hehe, Sa eb natin ilabas ang Lahat,hehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 02, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
Mga sirs, at last we were able to buy our first Drum Kit. Its a Tama Rhythm Mate paired with Zildjian ZBT Bronze 13" hi-hat, 16" crash at 18" na ride, yung Imperial Star sana kaso walang stock and it would be more or less two weeks pa yung delivery kaso hindi na ako makapaghintay hehehe... post ko pics later...
Thanks again mga Sirs for your help...
God bless PM people... :-)
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 02, 2014, 03:20:46 PM
Mga sirs, at last we were able to buy our first Drum Kit. Its a Tama Rhythm Mate paired with Zildjian ZBT Bronze 13" hi-hat, 16" crash at 18" na ride, yung Imperial Star sana kaso walang stock and it would be more or less two weeks pa yung delivery kaso hindi na ako makapaghintay hehehe... post ko pics later...
Thanks again mga Sirs for your help...
God bless PM people... :-)
Congratulations brother! post mo pics dito mamaya! gawa ka ng photobucket account! :D very happy for you! :D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 02, 2014, 04:00:13 PM
Mga sirs, at last we were able to buy our first Drum Kit. Its a Tama Rhythm Mate paired with Zildjian ZBT Bronze 13" hi-hat, 16" crash at 18" na ride, yung Imperial Star sana kaso walang stock and it would be more or less two weeks pa yung delivery kaso hindi na ako makapaghintay hehehe... post ko pics later...
Thanks again mga Sirs for your help...
God bless PM people... :-)
Congrats brod! I know that feeling of excitement! Sarap noh?! :) Pero sana yan na yung last mo na "hindi makapaghintay" situation. Hehe. :-D Everything is worth the wait brod.. Lalo na sa musical instrument, you gotta trust me on this. Hindi panget ang Tama Rhythm Mate, baka lang kung nakita mo si Imperial Star, mas nagustuhan mo siya ^-^
Short OT lang: Gustong gusto kong kit non pa lang, Gretsch na. May pera pambili, pero kulang. Yan na, dumating nako sa "hindi makapaghintay" moment. Nalaman ko, mas mura pala itong Yamaha Gigmaker. Sabi ko ito na lang para may drums na, di nako makapaghintay eh. May nagpayo saken, wag daw. Di daw dahil sa panget ang gigmaker, pero dahil sa hindi naman talaga yon ang gusto ko. So ako ito, napaisip. Tama nga yung nagpayo. Konting tiis pa, iniisip naten matagal kasi araw, linggo, buwan ang bibilangin. Pero mabilis lang ang panahon ngayon brod. Ayun, nagulat na lang ako ayan na kumpleto na ang pambili ng Gretsch. Sarap gamitin, kasi yon talaga ang gusto ko.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on June 02, 2014, 04:37:14 PM
Mga sirs, at last we were able to buy our first Drum Kit. Its a Tama Rhythm Mate paired with Zildjian ZBT Bronze 13" hi-hat, 16" crash at 18" na ride, yung Imperial Star sana kaso walang stock and it would be more or less two weeks pa yung delivery kaso hindi na ako makapaghintay hehehe... post ko pics later...
Thanks again mga Sirs for your help...
God bless PM people... :-)
Congratulations on your new TAMA Rhythm Mate! God Bless You, too!
:-D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: gss on June 02, 2014, 05:57:08 PM
Mga sirs, at last we were able to buy our first Drum Kit. Its a Tama Rhythm Mate paired with Zildjian ZBT Bronze 13" hi-hat, 16" crash at 18" na ride, yung Imperial Star sana kaso walang stock and it would be more or less two weeks pa yung delivery kaso hindi na ako makapaghintay hehehe... post ko pics later...
Thanks again mga Sirs for your help...
God bless PM people... :-)
congrats sir... enjoy your kit :-D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 03, 2014, 09:01:48 AM
wrong hitting techniques are usually to blame for cymbal damage.
+5
Keyholes I think were done to get the sweet spot of handmade cast cymbals to stay put in one place. ZBTs are sheet cymbbals so they sound the same everywhere. Besides, you'd probably do more damage to your ZBTs by keyholing them from the get-go, especially if you don't know what you're doing. Felts and sleeves lang kailangan mo. And those plastic fishtank hoses, for emergencies :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sonicassault on June 03, 2014, 12:12:04 PM
Abot budget mo,pero invest on 2nd hand items.yung skin na lang I brand new mo.
Totally agree with this.
My suggestions would be:
1 ZBT/B8 Second hand set (This would cost around 8k if you're lucky. thats for a 14 Hats, 16 crash and 20 ride.)
1 Snare Drum Stand - a generic snare stand from JB (Fernando) costs around 680-850 pesos. this is that one with the adjustable snare support/claw. it does the job.
1 Hihat Stand - a nice second hand would cost around 1.5k lowest. might be a gibraltar, a mapex or a sonor.
1 Bass Pedal - you can get a decent 2nd hand pedal for 800-1000 pesos. slightly used. will either be a MAPEX or a beat up pearl..
1 Remo Drumhead Pack(for Fernando Standard drumset) - snare plus 3 toms would cost you around 2.2k - 3.5k. better get these new.
All in all, the lowest amount you will be shelling out with these wants will be around 13150. stretch it to 14-15k to be safe.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on June 03, 2014, 08:20:26 PM
1 ZBT/B8 Second hand set (This would cost around 8k if you're lucky. thats for a 14 Hats, 16 crash and 20 ride.)
1 Snare Drum Stand - a generic snare stand from JB (Fernando) costs around 680-850 pesos. this is that one with the adjustable snare support/claw. it does the job.
1 Hihat Stand - a nice second hand would cost around 1.5k lowest. might be a gibraltar, a mapex or a sonor.
1 Bass Pedal - you can get a decent 2nd hand pedal for 800-1000 pesos. slightly used. will either be a MAPEX or a beat up pearl..
1 Remo Drumhead Pack(for Fernando Standard drumset) - snare plus 3 toms would cost you around 2.2k - 3.5k. better get these new.
All in all, the lowest amount you will be shelling out with these wants will be around 13150. stretch it to 14-15k to be safe.
Wow paps! May quotation na! Ibang level Ka na! Haha! Yup tsaka be patient! May lalabas din na items for that one.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: peeves24 on June 04, 2014, 10:10:18 AM
keyholing is not a feature bro. its a defect that develops over time.
cymbals stay in one position kasi hindi even ang bigat ng nya, minsan talaga may mabigat na side at yun ang napupuruhan kaya nadedevelop yung keyhole especially kung wala kang ginagamit na sleeve para maprevent yung metal to metal contact ng cymbal at ng stand.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 04, 2014, 10:47:08 AM
keyholing is not a feature bro. its a defect that develops over time.
cymbals stay in one position kasi hindi even ang bigat ng nya, minsan talaga may mabigat na side at yun ang napupuruhan kaya nadedevelop yung keyhole especially kung wala kang ginagamit na sleeve para maprevent yung metal to metal contact ng cymbal at ng stand.
Exactly. keyholes are a result of unnecessary metal to metal contact between the cymbal's hold and the cymbal stand. especially with stands that have no sleeves. worse, those stands with screw threads on the sleeve.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on June 04, 2014, 11:17:15 AM
Na keyhole yung hihat dito sa trabaho dahil walang cymbal felt,bat kaya.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 04, 2014, 11:29:04 AM
Bhwahahaha! Purket recording solo artist Ka na ganyan Ka na!di na Kita mareach! Haha! Psssttt! Ot na Ka na! Haha! Hinahanap Ka namin sa rats! Di Ka nagpaparamdam dun!hehe Ni like ko na naman combo mo,hehe,btt na! <_< Sorry mods.btt!
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: gss on June 04, 2014, 06:23:28 PM
Keyholes I think were done to get the sweet spot of handmade cast cymbals to stay put in one place... you'd probably do more damage to your ZBTs by keyholing them from the get-go, especially if you don't know what you're doing.
keyholing is not a feature bro. its a defect that develops over time.
cymbals stay in one position kasi hindi even ang bigat ng nya, minsan talaga may mabigat na side at yun ang napupuruhan kaya nadedevelop yung keyhole especially kung wala kang ginagamit na sleeve para maprevent yung metal to metal contact ng cymbal at ng stand.
Hmmm yes it's a defect that should be avoided for obvious reasons, but intentionally putting a keyhole to make it stay at a preferred position, while absurd, is possible...ewan ko, I personally won't do this... <_<...hehe this part of the thread is considered as help/tips AFTER buying the first drum kit, medyo OT medyo hindi :-D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on June 04, 2014, 06:56:46 PM
Pics na lang inaantay natin paps,hehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 05, 2014, 10:00:38 AM
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 05, 2014, 11:34:41 AM
Mga sir, I have the picture na but its in my cellphone, medyo crappy pero its better than no picture at all hehehe...
The problem is the Lenovo laptop Im using right now doesnt have a bluetooth capability... Hanap muna ako ng ibang laptop... But I assure you guys, the pix will be uploaded this afternoon..
Now back to keyhole, saan pwede mag order ng SLEEVE or pwede ako mag DIY using any available hard plastic or rubber materials...
Thanks again mga bro... :) :) :)
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 05, 2014, 01:34:03 PM
Mga sir, I have the picture na but its in my cellphone, medyo crappy pero its better than no picture at all hehehe...
The problem is the Lenovo laptop Im using right now doesnt have a bluetooth capability... Hanap muna ako ng ibang laptop... But I assure you guys, the pix will be uploaded this afternoon..
Now back to keyhole, saan pwede mag order ng SLEEVE or pwede ako mag DIY using any available hard plastic or rubber materials...
Thanks again mga bro... :) :) :)
pwede naman DIY bro, use yung hose na clear na ginagamit para sa fishtanks. anything to avoid metal to metal contact between the cymbal and the stand. :D
pero cymbals sleeves, sa JB meron. Gibraltar. 195 ata per pack if im not mistaken.
sige lang bro! take your time :D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 05, 2014, 01:56:16 PM
(http://<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/97012604@N00/14348522002" title="Photo2818 by jolam317, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2929/14348522002_6a500ed322_s.jpg" width="75" height="75" alt="Photo2818"></a>)
Im using a Flickr account and I've already uploaded the photos but it seems I have already forgotten how to post a picture here....
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 05, 2014, 01:59:50 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2929/14348522002_ae34cef5b3_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nRVVGo)Photo2818 (https://flic.kr/p/nRVVGo) by jolam317 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
That's not me on the drums hehehe... Its my son David... First time on the drums and he can already play, thanks to youtube.. hehehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on June 05, 2014, 02:08:31 PM
Mukhang di nakikita post mo. :-( Bro invest na sa. Gibraltar cymbal sleeve best investment for me in gigs na lalo
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 05, 2014, 02:35:02 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3882/14350115335_cdd61bf918_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nS56kD)Photo2827 (https://flic.kr/p/nS56kD) by jolam317 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
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Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 05, 2014, 02:41:56 PM
NICE KIT BRO! :D ramdam ko yung pagkabrandnew! :D
congratulations on your kit1 :D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on June 05, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
Nice!! And imagine the smell of a brand new opened kit,haha
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 05, 2014, 02:59:30 PM
And it took us some time to assemble the whole set... We're so careful not to scratch the brand new kit :-D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on June 05, 2014, 03:09:47 PM
Wine Red color! Ganda!
Enjoy!
:-D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 05, 2014, 03:14:47 PM
Mukhang di nakikita post mo. :-( Bro invest na sa. Gibraltar cymbal sleeve best investment for me in gigs na lalo
Bro saan tayo pwedeng mag order nito? Thanks
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: harugrugrug on June 05, 2014, 03:20:28 PM
Jb bro,sabi ni paps Ralph it's around 200,it's 4 pcs,I think,wala ba yan sa cymbal stand mo? Yung black thing sa nilalagyannng cymbal around dun sa butas? Or maybe it's transparent?
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 05, 2014, 04:14:00 PM
Jb bro,sabi ni paps Ralph it's around 200,it's 4 pcs,I think,wala ba yan sa cymbal stand mo? Yung black thing sa nilalagyannng cymbal around dun sa butas? Or maybe it's transparent?
AFAIK, yung stand ni TAMA, yung screw/Nut mismo nung stand na plastic, yun na yung nagaact as a sleeve :)
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 05, 2014, 04:36:51 PM
Jb bro,sabi ni paps Ralph it's around 200,it's 4 pcs,I think,wala ba yan sa cymbal stand mo? Yung black thing sa nilalagyannng cymbal around dun sa butas? Or maybe it's transparent?
I think parang wala yata bro, but am not sure... I have to examine it again tonight if may kasamang sleeve na yung stand....
Thanks again.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 05, 2014, 04:48:03 PM
best talaga is to post a pic of the cymbal stand pards. pero AFAIK Talaga meron nang builtin sleeve yan pards.
I believe so sir ralph, it should be the black hard plastic sleeve where your bottom cymbal felt is resting on... in turn, your cymbal is resting on this bottom cymbal felt...yung sleeve kasi ng Tama may disk na integrated sa gitna pangsalo sa felt and weight of the cymbal...kung walang sleeve i could imagine dudulas pababa yung bottom cymbal felt together with your cymbal...based on your pictures mukha namang steady yung cymbals so there has to be something holding them up, and my guess is it's the sleeve, and baligtaran yan so you actually have 2 sleeves na lalaspagin, isa sa taas and isa sa ibaba :-D
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 05, 2014, 06:12:56 PM
I believe so sir ralph, it should be the black hard plastic sleeve where your bottom cymbal felt is resting on... in turn, your cymbal is resting on this bottom cymbal felt...yung sleeve kasi ng Tama may disk na integrated sa gitna pangsalo sa felt and weight of the cymbal...kung walang sleeve i could imagine dudulas pababa yung bottom cymbal felt together with your cymbal...based on your pictures mukha namang steady yung cymbals so there has to be something holding them up, and my guess is it's the sleeve, and baligtaran yan so you actually have 2 sleeves na lalaspagin, isa sa taas and isa sa ibaba :-D
yeah, if my memory serves correctly talaga, tama ka dun bro gss. hirap lang irecall kasi hindi ako tama user eh =)) though wish ko magkaron din niyan =))
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 05, 2014, 11:47:59 PM
best talaga is to post a pic of the cymbal stand pards. pero AFAIK Talaga meron nang builtin sleeve yan pards.
To Jolam1431
Another best thing here is make the internet your dictionary. Take advantage of it. Hanapin mo mga terms relating drums. Know its anatomy and physiology :nosebleed:. Madame kang matututunan and you won't be having a hard time figuring out terms used.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 06, 2014, 10:33:28 AM
Another best thing here is make the internet your dictionary. Take advantage of it. Hanapin mo mga terms relating drums. Know its anatomy and physiology :nosebleed:. Madame kang matututunan and you won't be having a hard time figuring out terms used.
Suggestion well taken Sir hehehe... research mode muna... Sa Saturday ko pala makunan ulit ng picture yung cymbals stand, getting busy with work lately :)
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: dreddurius on June 11, 2014, 10:44:47 PM
Oi oi teka ok naman Yamaha Gigmaker ah (hehe) kung sa church (or enclosed spaces para sa akin) swak ang mahogany ng Gigmaker, less punch moar tonez
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 16, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
Matagal din akong hindi nakabalik dito...
Regarding the cymbals stand, may kasama na palang sleeve yun mga sir so no need to worry about the keyhole.....
Ito na lang, saan kaya pwede bumili online ng Zildjian Cymbals cleaner?
TIA at God bless sa lahat...
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 16, 2014, 02:04:56 PM
di mo naman ibebenta i presume hahahahaha kaya ako naging OC sa logos eh. I used to have AAX Stage Hats, tapos lagi ko nililinis kasi I like it brilliant hahahaha yun, nung binebenta ko na, 5k nalang siya kasi wala na talagang logo. :|
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: sonicassault on June 16, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
di mo naman ibebenta i presume hahahahaha kaya ako naging OC sa logos eh. I used to have AAX Stage Hats, tapos lagi ko nililinis kasi I like it brilliant hahahaha yun, nung binebenta ko na, 5k nalang siya kasi wala na talagang logo. :|
ang laki ng drop sa price! well, I assume ang resale value ng AAX hats mo mga around 10k with logos? ang badtrip nyan ah. and to think the logos are actually just think films of ink.
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 16, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
ang laki ng drop sa price! well, I assume ang resale value ng AAX hats mo mga around 10k with logos? ang badtrip nyan ah. and to think the logos are actually just think films of ink.
9k with logos usually. lowest na 8k sa mga desperado magbenta. hahahahaha
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: gss on June 16, 2014, 05:59:02 PM
don't use the Zildjian Cleaner bro, nakakatanggal siya ng logos ng cymbals which will dramiatically reduce the resale price of your cymbals.
best to use the MEINL Cymbal Cleaner. AFAIK, okay daw siya with all cymbals tapos di nakakatanggal ng logos :D
Sir...I've read what sir ralph is saying a lot of times already, so i'd listen to him if i were you... if you want to keep your cymbals clean, why not get a cymbal bag instead...after use, wipe your cymbals with a soft, dry cloth then store them in the bag...di masyadong dudumi cymbals mo...
unfortunately I don't practice this myself kasi tamad ako :oops: wag mo ko gayahin...
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: sonicassault on June 17, 2014, 07:00:08 AM
Sir...I've read what sir ralph is saying a lot of times already, so i'd listen to him if i were you... if you want to keep your cymbals clean, why not get a cymbal bag instead...after use, wipe your cymbals with a soft, dry cloth then store them in the bag...di masyadong dudumi cymbals mo...
unfortunately I don't practice this myself kasi tamad ako :oops: wag mo ko gayahin...
o kaya kumot na sobrang laki, pantakip sa buong kit.
400 thread count Egyptian cotton para masarap tulugan kung may tadtaran na practice hehehehe
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 17, 2014, 02:04:42 PM
Sir...I've read what sir ralph is saying a lot of times already, so i'd listen to him if i were you... if you want to keep your cymbals clean, why not get a cymbal bag instead...after use, wipe your cymbals with a soft, dry cloth then store them in the bag...di masyadong dudumi cymbals mo...
unfortunately I don't practice this myself kasi tamad ako :oops: wag mo ko gayahin...
pwede rin tong method na to, kaso mejo hassle especially kung lagi kang pumapalo hahahaha! :) pero ako I always do this, tanggal lagi, ayoko rin na nakatambay siya sa stand for too long. baka makeyhole eh hahahaha
Title: Re: HELP ON BUYING OUR FIRST DRUM KIT
Post by: jolam1431 on June 17, 2014, 03:47:55 PM
Sir...I've read what sir ralph is saying a lot of times already, so i'd listen to him if i were you... if you want to keep your cymbals clean, why not get a cymbal bag instead...after use, wipe your cymbals with a soft, dry cloth then store them in the bag...di masyadong dudumi cymbals mo...
unfortunately I don't practice this myself kasi tamad ako :oops: wag mo ko gayahin...
parang mas ok din ito, kaya lang ang nakita ko na cymbal bag dito eh "Premier" na brand lang... dont have any other choice if I would go for that route.. hehehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: im_dabi on June 24, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
Gandang hapon po.
May binili ako na planet z crash na 17" sa jb music neto lang april 2014, that time yun lang kinaya ng budget. Pero narerealize ko sa thread na mas madami maganda na beginner's crash.
Sa aling brand po kaya maganda i trade in yung planet z? Maganda pa sya makintab na makintab pa and hawak ko pa receipt. Three times pa lang nagamit. Nung ngpaevent ang compny namin sa bkb , bring your own daw kaya napabili ako. Sa practice di ko ginagamit since maganda naman cymbals ng august 8 studio.
Salamat in advance mga sir.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sonicassault on June 24, 2014, 04:25:32 PM
May binili ako na planet z crash na 17" sa jb music neto lang april 2014, that time yun lang kinaya ng budget. Pero narerealize ko sa thread na mas madami maganda na beginner's crash.
Sa aling brand po kaya maganda i trade in yung planet z? Maganda pa sya makintab na makintab pa and hawak ko pa receipt. Three times pa lang nagamit. Nung ngpaevent ang compny namin sa bkb , bring your own daw kaya napabili ako. Sa practice di ko ginagamit since maganda naman cymbals ng august 8 studio.
Salamat in advance mga sir.
Stagg SH series. Sabian B8/B8 Pro or Zildjian ZBT or Meinl MCS/MB8. Although sa tingin ko mas mahal pa yung mga B8 cymbals so try scouting for Stagg SH first.
As to trading in the Planet Z, medyo mababa ang resale/trade value nyan, so expect to shell out a good amount for your new cymbals.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on June 24, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
Stagg SH series. Sabian B8/B8 Pro or Zildjian ZBT or Meinl MCS/MB8. Although sa tingin ko mas mahal pa yung mga B8 cymbals so try scouting for Stagg SH first.
As to trading in the Planet Z, medyo mababa ang resale/trade value nyan, so expect to shell out a good amount for your new cymbals.
Yup! Tama siya bro,may mga Istanbul din na naliligaw.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 24, 2014, 05:14:56 PM
BEGINNER CYMBALS:
I'd get an Istanbul RADIANT or ISTANBUL SAMATYA Set. they usually sound decent.
The SHs, for me are an intermediate players choice kasi mejo inconsistent sounding ang cymbals ni stagg. kailangan piliin kung ano maganda, build and sound wise. coming from planetZ kasi, most bronze cymbals will sound decent to you, eh baka mamaya sobrang dark, or sobrang thrashy na yung makuha mo bro, you'll most probably be selling the staggs din as your taste matures.
The ZBTs and the B8s are great choices as well. dito talga, wala ka nang sugal sugal. sure ka na it will sound as close to the other boxes or other cymbals na zbt or b8. yun nga lang, malamang ibebenta mo rin to as your taste matures.
Best advice: get Istanbuls or Zildjian A/Ks or basta cast cymbals. you can try looking at our classifieds. :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sonicassault on June 24, 2014, 05:21:31 PM
I'd get an Istanbul RADIANT or ISTANBUL SAMATYA Set. they usually sound decent.
The SHs, for me are an intermediate players choice kasi mejo inconsistent sounding ang cymbals ni stagg. kailangan piliin kung ano maganda, build and sound wise. coming from planetZ kasi, most bronze cymbals will sound decent to you, eh baka mamaya sobrang dark, or sobrang thrashy na yung makuha mo bro, you'll most probably be selling the staggs din as your taste matures.
The ZBTs and the B8s are great choices as well. dito talga, wala ka nang sugal sugal. sure ka na it will sound as close to the other boxes or other cymbals na zbt or b8. yun nga lang, malamang ibebenta mo rin to as your taste matures.
Best advice: get Istanbuls or Zildjian A/Ks or basta cast cymbals. you can try looking at our classifieds. :)
How much yung Radiants secondhand/new? Hindi ba prone din sya sa tonal inconsistencies dahil handmade?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 24, 2014, 05:38:47 PM
15-18k secondhand. sometimes going as low as 10k per set. mint. (there was a forumer who sold his for 10k :O damn. sayang.)
bnew goes for around 20k per set.
sure, may tonal inconsistencies, but not as inconsistent as stagg SHs. SH kasi, you can get something sounding like the K custom, and you can get something that sounds like stock fernendo cymbals. (based on experience)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sonicassault on June 24, 2014, 05:41:04 PM
15-18k secondhand. sometimes going as low as 10k per set. mint. (there was a forumer who sold his for 10k :O damn. sayang.)
bnew goes for around 20k per set.
sure, may tonal inconsistencies, but not as inconsistent as stagg SHs. SH kasi, you can get something sounding like the K custom, and you can get something that sounds like stock fernendo cymbals. (based on experience)
I should look into Istanbul, even just for the consistency. Kahit yung splash ko, I was trying out a couple, worlds apart yung difference. yung una tunog zbt!
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 24, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
im not doing marketing for istanbul. pero basing from my experience, mas consistent talaga and better sounding si istanbul kesa kay stagg. though mas mura parin ang bnew ni stagg. tiyaga lang sa pag pili.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on June 24, 2014, 10:47:37 PM
im not doing marketing for istanbul. pero basing from my experience, mas consistent talaga and better sounding si istanbul kesa kay stagg. though mas mura parin ang bnew ni stagg. tiyaga lang sa pag pili.
Yup! Tyaga lang talaga bro! Naks marketing for Istanbul! Haha,19east is now using Istanbul cymbals as well.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 25, 2014, 01:03:18 AM
May binili ako na planet z crash na 17" sa jb music neto lang april 2014, that time yun lang kinaya ng budget. Pero narerealize ko sa thread na mas madami maganda na beginner's crash.
Sa aling brand po kaya maganda i trade in yung planet z? Maganda pa sya makintab na makintab pa and hawak ko pa receipt. Three times pa lang nagamit. Nung ngpaevent ang compny namin sa bkb , bring your own daw kaya napabili ako. Sa practice di ko ginagamit since maganda naman cymbals ng august 8 studio.
Salamat in advance mga sir.
Tama yung mga sumagot sa inquiry mo. They know it too well. Stagg fits with this, you just have to use your ears in deciding what size and model are you going to buy. Tried and tested na saken. From then on, puro stagg cymbals na meron sa kit ko.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sonicassault on June 25, 2014, 08:20:26 AM
Yup! Tyaga lang talaga bro! Naks marketing for Istanbul! Haha,19east is now using Istanbul cymbals as well.
For more experienced buyers with cash to burn, or who already went through with a lot of GAS, they know where the bang for buck really lies. Wala nang brand loyalty just because it's famous. Bawat use case at sound profile may brand na nag-eexcel at napipili.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 25, 2014, 09:45:56 AM
case in point #1: Ako.
Used to be an all sabian user. AAX, AA, HH and HHX Only. no other brands allowed.
then, i discovered staggs and istanbuls. fell in love with the SH Mediums (Sounds like vintage Ks). Then I heard the istanbuls. the sultans, the radiants, and the traditionals. wala na. bang for the buck talaga.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on June 25, 2014, 10:42:07 AM
Used to be an all sabian user. AAX, AA, HH and HHX Only. no other brands allowed.
then, i discovered staggs and istanbuls. fell in love with the SH Mediums (Sounds like vintage Ks). Then I heard the istanbuls. the sultans, the radiants, and the traditionals. wala na. bang for the buck talaga.
Ako din! I used to love all a customs! When I got an inspirational pack,I was like,huhhhn? I sold it all except my k custom ride,ayun k customs,k and a ang cymbals ko,hehe. If money wasn't a concern and variety,I would go for sabians Pero if I wasn't oc on brand,I would go for mix of k,sultans,dh,and hhx. :cute:
Insert quote of sonic assault, Hehe,yes your re right. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zwischenzug on July 01, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
Question po, ok na ba yung 21k for Sonor Force 2005 kit only (non-fusion)?
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: harugrugrug on July 01, 2014, 10:46:03 AM
Question po, ok na ba yung 21k for Sonor Force 2005 kit only (non-fusion)?
I think it's good pero depende sa condistion,hehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: sonicassault on July 01, 2014, 10:57:39 AM
Question po:
any tips when selecting cymbals by tone, inside the store? I'm planning to upgrade some of my B8s to Staggs or Istanbuls, pero alam ko malaki yung influence ng room sa overall sound nya. Especially the drier cymbals, baka ayos sa showroom tapos ultra dry pala sa bahay.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 01, 2014, 11:06:50 AM
any tips when selecting cymbals by tone, inside the store? I'm planning to upgrade some of my B8s to Staggs or Istanbuls, pero alam ko malaki yung influence ng room sa overall sound nya. Especially the drier cymbals, baka ayos sa showroom tapos ultra dry pala sa bahay.
bring your favorite current cymbal. pagtest mo sa store, pag okay siya with your current cymbal, it'll most probably be good.
ako, isa ko pang testing technique, I make sure na walang walls na malapit sakin para hindi maging exaggerated ang overtones nung cymbal. dun ko malalaman yung closest sound niya in an open environment. then, I test in a corner para malaman ko kung ano magiging tunog sa maliit na bar gigs. lastly, i have the sales guy hit it while im around 5-7 steps away from him para marinig ko kung ano naririnig ng audience ko. and honestly, eto ung mga series na sobrang consistent, near or far:
STAGG SH Crashes and Splashes STAGG CS ISTANBUL RADIANT ISTANBUL SAMATYA ISTANBUL SULTAN ISTANBUL TRADITIONAL SABIAN AAX SABIAN HHX ZILDJIAN K Custom (yung luma ah. yung mga bago... meh.) ZILDJIAN A Custom ZILDJIAN A
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zwischenzug on July 01, 2014, 12:29:21 PM
Brandnew ba bro? kung bnew, mejo steady steady na yung price.
Old stock lang daw sir sa bodega with some very minor/negligible dents and smudges tapos yung snare is ibang model (force 2001) pero same color "as is" binebenta ng store. Checked the item personally and it's good overall. Pagnilinis magiging brand new na hitsura.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 01, 2014, 01:21:12 PM
Old stock lang daw sir sa bodega with some very minor/negligible dents and smudges tapos yung snare is ibang model (force 2001) pero same color "as is" binebenta ng store. Checked the item personally and it's good overall. Pagnilinis magiging brand new na hitsura.
kasama lahat ng hardware? :)
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: zwischenzug on July 01, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
yes sir
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 01, 2014, 01:48:58 PM
Ralph you the man! Haha! Admire the kit pic! Hehehe,sana na post mo dito yung birch kit mo paps. :cute:
hahaha down ang philmusic non eh hahahaha! pag sinipag ako buoin, post ko hahahaha!
Title: Hi, patulong naman!
Post by: mysmileyface on July 13, 2014, 06:49:45 PM
Bibili kasi ako ng drum set. Hanap ko ay mura pero quality. Ah, mali. Quality at mura, ayun. :)) Hindi ko alam kung saan magsisimula, kung set ba ang dapat bilhin o isa-isa lang. Kung saan mas makamumura? Ano ba dapat mga tignan? Gusto ko entry-level. Maganda sa recording. Hindi ako maalam kung ano dapat mga tignan, gitara kasi hawak ko. Kaya ayun, patulong naman. :)
Title: Re: Hi, patulong naman!
Post by: harugrugrug on July 13, 2014, 08:51:57 PM
The first thing to determine is the budget bro. :cool: Then we start there. As for entry level na brand new we go around 30k-40k with cymbals For 2nd hand that same budget would get you a good middle class drums already. If it's for recording purposes a good kit is better but if you have good mixing skills it wouldn't matter that much Ang tanung ko sir budget. Then we start there. :-D
Title: Re: Hi, patulong naman!
Post by: mysmileyface on July 14, 2014, 08:45:04 PM
Hrrr, hahaha. 15-20k sana. Sabi may mabibili na ko maganda 17k, ibig ko sabihin na maganda ay maayos. Ano kaya maganda para dito? :)
Title: Re: Hi, patulong naman!
Post by: harugrugrug on July 15, 2014, 12:22:32 PM
Sorry sir,hirap ako makapasok pm kaya di ako makapagpost,bro,I think 2nd drums is the way to go po Kasi 20k for a brand new kit e mahihirapan kayo kumuha ng good sounding quality kit. Pag my trip kayo kit Sir I private msg niyo ako to tell you Kung Oks ba yung kit. :-D
Title: Re: Hi, patulong naman!
Post by: zwischenzug on July 15, 2014, 02:30:05 PM
You might want to check out with Salonga sa Cubao, may mga binebenta sila dun less than 20k, sold as is (kung ano man yung minor defect). :)
Title: Re: Hi, patulong naman!
Post by: mysmileyface on July 15, 2014, 02:57:28 PM
Sorry sir,hirap ako makapasok pm kaya di ako makapagpost,bro,I think 2nd drums is the way to go po Kasi 20k for a brand new kit e mahihirapan kayo kumuha ng good sounding quality kit. Pag my trip kayo kit Sir I private msg niyo ako to tell you Kung Oks ba yung kit. :-D
Very nice of you, man! Sige, mag-link ako sayo, patignan kung ayos.
You might want to check out with Salonga sa Cubao, may mga binebenta sila dun less than 20k, sold as is (kung ano man yung minor defect). :)
Ang layo, taga Laguna ako. :|
Title: Re: Hi, patulong naman!
Post by: harugrugrug on July 15, 2014, 08:43:47 PM
Good! I'm from south as well alabang paranaque area ako,if I saw one ad that fits your budget or Someone referred me a kit that fits your budget I'll inform you.just be patient,ehehe
Sir zwischenzug has a point pero you just have to be sure on the item your buying. Ikaw nga there's a motto that says walang Malayo sa sure buyer,and it happened to me. I bought a really good high end kit sa subic! And I'm from paranaque,haha.it was worth it,ehehe
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 17, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
@mysmileyface,
try mo imessage si JAMSTREETSOUNDS or si Joan ballesteros ng Drum nation. taga pacita lang siya and i think she might have some kits that you can afford.
Title: Re: First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!
Post by: mongz_dakila on August 04, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
Hi first time buyer here. Sa bahay ko lang naman gagamitin yung kit, for jamming lang. Di ako marunong tumingin ng kahit ano sa drums eh, gitarista talaga ako. Worth it na ba to (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=316816.0) or magfefernando nalang ako? May nabasa din kasi ako dito na ok na rin yung mga fernando pero papalitan nalang yung mga heads if di kuntento sa tunog. Or, Edrums nalang tulad ng mga Ringway since sa bahay lang naman gagamitin.
Also, complete na ba tong kit na to, I mean cymbals nalang bibilhin.
Please help mga kapatid, maraming salamat. :)
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Post by: harugrugrug on August 04, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
its not complete walang cymbals na crash and hi hat,better ask the guy. :-D pero its a good buy for its price,tanung mo din kung kumpleto yung hardware. :cry:
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 04, 2014, 03:41:09 PM
Hi first time buyer here. Sa bahay ko lang naman gagamitin yung kit, for jamming lang. Di ako marunong tumingin ng kahit ano sa drums eh, gitarista talaga ako. Worth it na ba to (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=316816.0) or magfefernando nalang ako? May nabasa din kasi ako dito na ok na rin yung mga fernando pero papalitan nalang yung mga heads if di kuntento sa tunog. Or, Edrums nalang tulad ng mga Ringway since sa bahay lang naman gagamitin.
Also, complete na ba tong kit na to, I mean cymbals nalang bibilhin.
Please help mga kapatid, maraming salamat. :)
Looks good. i'd get this. naka evans na, may A ROCK HATS na, i think kasama na rin hardware kasi KIT ang sabi niya hindi shellpack. best to ask the seller. sobrang steal nito pag may hardware na rin. better buy it at 18k.
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Post by: sonicassault on August 04, 2014, 03:47:52 PM
Hi first time buyer here. Sa bahay ko lang naman gagamitin yung kit, for jamming lang. Di ako marunong tumingin ng kahit ano sa drums eh, gitarista talaga ako. Worth it na ba to (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=316816.0) or magfefernando nalang ako? May nabasa din kasi ako dito na ok na rin yung mga fernando pero papalitan nalang yung mga heads if di kuntento sa tunog. And complete na ba tong kit na to, I mean cymbals nalang bibilhin.
Please help mga kapatid, maraming salamat. :)
Looks good to me. If the bearing edges (the part of the wood that touches the heads) arent damaged, and the hardware isn't loose or has hidden rust spots, or missing anything, then it's good. You'd have to pay the kit a visit though. It's a Sonor, so brand isn't an issue. I'd take it now if it's true he'll throw in the A rock hats (if it's in good condition too). It's the exact same config as the stock Yamaha Gigmaker I have, so complete na yan by your definition, isang boom stand na lang at ride and crash cymbals ang bibilhin mo.
May nagbebenta dyan ng Medeli DD505 pero bibili ka pa ng amp powerful enough to play with your guitar and bass amps. So medyo pantay lang ang gastos mo.
Personally kukunin ko yung Sonor. Kung resale value pa lang, yung hi hats pa lang ayos na ako.
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Post by: mongz_dakila on August 04, 2014, 04:01:12 PM
Wow, ang bilis dito ah. Very informative pa. hehe. Etong isa http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/48603282/TAMA+Drumset.+2nd+Hand.?referralKeywords=drumset&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-6,6#advertisementDetails , same price din sya. TAMA naman yung brand and complete na with cymbals at least magagamit agad, ok din ba to? Ano mas OK sa kanila? Thank you very much.
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 04, 2014, 04:11:36 PM
Wow, ang bilis dito ah. Very informative pa. hehe. Etong isa http://www.olx.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/48603282/TAMA+Drumset.+2nd+Hand.?referralKeywords=drumset&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-6,6#advertisementDetails , same price din sya. TAMA naman yung brand and complete na with cymbals at least magagamit agad, ok din ba to? Ano mas OK sa kanila? Thank you very much.
I'd still go for the sonor. Yung heads nung Tama kit looks beat up na. yung sa sonor kit, you're getting evans g2's na. plus yung avedis rockhat talaga. the cymbals with the tama are those generic brass cymbals na you wouldn't like using bro. 2 cents lang naman.
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Post by: mongz_dakila on August 04, 2014, 05:21:45 PM
ok sir, maraming salamat. Baka yung sonor nalang yung kunin ko. :-D, Balitaan ko kayo if anong update.
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Post by: sonicassault on August 04, 2014, 05:28:36 PM
I'd still go for the sonor. Yung heads nung Tama kit looks beat up na. yung sa sonor kit, you're getting evans g2's na. plus yung avedis rockhat talaga. the cymbals with the tama are those generic brass cymbals na you wouldn't like using bro. 2 cents lang naman.
+2 hats pa lang panalo ka na. basically, dun sa Sonor, add ka na lang. Sa Tama, replace and add pa!
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Post by: dreddurius on August 07, 2014, 05:41:07 AM
Speaking of first time gear buyers, first pair of hats ko yung A Rock. Panaloswabe sya pero grabeng bumulyaw! Better warn the neighborhood. Ihanda mo na ang pangsuhol mo na alak tuwing jamming ehehe
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Post by: paengaceveda on September 09, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
guys, bibili po sana ako ng chimes at cajon. kaso wala akong idea kung anong magandang brand na medyo budget. meron po ba kayong maiirecommend(brand,price and location or shop)? salamat po. pls pm me po. :)
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on September 09, 2014, 04:25:09 PM
guys, bibili po sana ako ng chimes at cajon. kaso wala akong idea kung anong magandang brand na medyo budget. meron po ba kayong maiirecommend(brand,price and location or shop)? salamat po. pls pm me po. :)
For the good ones, syempre there's Meinl and LP. if you can get secondhand LP's go for it! kung sa budget naman, STAGG has great Chimes and Cajons for the budget musician. don't buy those cheapo RJ stuff.
AFAIK, meron ding mga nagcucustom ng Cajon. you might wanna check their stuff out.
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Post by: paengaceveda on September 10, 2014, 08:10:56 AM
For the good ones, syempre there's Meinl and LP. if you can get secondhand LP's go for it! kung sa budget naman, STAGG has great Chimes and Cajons for the budget musician. don't buy those cheapo RJ stuff.
AFAIK, meron ding mga nagcucustom ng Cajon. you might wanna check their stuff out.
Sir, Salamat po. San po kaya nakakabili ng Meinl and LP? pati po sana ung Stagg? and magkano po sila respectively kung brand new? or maybe if you still know, yung second hand po? pasensya na po medyo matanong. Salamat po ng marami!
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on September 10, 2014, 10:15:33 AM
Sir, Salamat po. San po kaya nakakabili ng Meinl and LP? pati po sana ung Stagg? and magkano po sila respectively kung brand new? or maybe if you still know, yung second hand po? pasensya na po medyo matanong. Salamat po ng marami!
MEINL - Lyric LP - JB Music Stagg - The Music Source
Bnew, mejo mahal si meinl and LP. Second hand lang alam ko. around 5kish for a cajon and 2k for chimes.
Stagg, around 2-3k ang bnew na cajon, 1-2k ang bnew nilang chimes. very decent IMHO. Wala pa akong nakikitang nagbebenta ng stagg. either maganda talaga siya for them, or they don't bother to sell kasi dirt cheap naman chaka mahirap ibenta kasi nga its an entry level brand. unless palugi. hahaha
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Post by: paengaceveda on September 10, 2014, 01:18:18 PM
MEINL - Lyric LP - JB Music Stagg - The Music Source
Bnew, mejo mahal si meinl and LP. Second hand lang alam ko. around 5kish for a cajon and 2k for chimes.
Stagg, around 2-3k ang bnew na cajon, 1-2k ang bnew nilang chimes. very decent IMHO. Wala pa akong nakikitang nagbebenta ng stagg. either maganda talaga siya for them, or they don't bother to sell kasi dirt cheap naman chaka mahirap ibenta kasi nga its an entry level brand. unless palugi. hahaha
Ayos! Sir, salamat ng maraming marami! May God bless you abundantly! :)
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Post by: jcabibihan on October 25, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
Hi guys.. Question lang po.. where can I post if I need to sell my drum set? puwede ba dito sa thread na to?
Thank You
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Post by: sonicassault on October 25, 2014, 10:53:32 PM
Hi guys.. Question lang po.. where can I post if I need to sell my drum set? puwede ba dito sa thread na to?
Thank You
Sa Classifieds: Drums and Percussion po http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?board=169.0 (http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?board=169.0) :)
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Post by: gwapito on November 12, 2014, 10:59:30 PM
ok po ba ang yamaha dd65 para sa kapatid kong 10years old na magaaral mag drums? or any suggestion? electronic lng pwede sa bahay kasi magagalit kapitbahay :-D
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Post by: adriancedo on November 13, 2014, 07:36:59 AM
Hi guys!
My family (brother and father) will be buying our first drum set, complete with cymbals. BTW, sa akin naka toka ang cymbals so I would like to ask your opinions (ayoko kasi mapahiya haha!).
1. Budget will be 15k to 20k. 2. Brand and category (low end to high end). 3. Generality/ease of use (could be used on different genres) 4. Location (whether in Raon or malls).
Of course, I would like to maximize the budget. Kung meron ako makuha na high end or mid end na magandang set would be best. Plus, may nakikita ako na mga set na may +1 or free na cymbal kasama in box, I would just like to clarify din if ok ung quality ng mga ganung set.
Thanks in advance! :)
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Post by: gss on November 13, 2014, 08:29:18 AM
My family (brother and father) will be buying our first drum set, complete with cymbals. BTW, sa akin naka toka ang cymbals so I would like to ask your opinions (ayoko kasi mapahiya haha!).
1. Budget will be 15k to 20k. 2. Brand and category (low end to high end). 3. Generality/ease of use (could be used on different genres) 4. Location (whether in Raon or malls).
Of course, I would like to maximize the budget. Kung meron ako makuha na high end or mid end na magandang set would be best. Plus, may nakikita ako na mga set na may +1 or free na cymbal kasama in box, I would just like to clarify din if ok ung quality ng mga ganung set.
Thanks in advance! :)
Istanbul Mehmet @ Lazer, IMHO I recommend prioritizing getting a good cymbal set over looking for one with a free cymbal ; )
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Post by: sonicassault on November 13, 2014, 08:56:14 AM
My family (brother and father) will be buying our first drum set, complete with cymbals. BTW, sa akin naka toka ang cymbals so I would like to ask your opinions (ayoko kasi mapahiya haha!).
1. Budget will be 15k to 20k. 2. Brand and category (low end to high end). 3. Generality/ease of use (could be used on different genres) 4. Location (whether in Raon or malls).
Of course, I would like to maximize the budget. Kung meron ako makuha na high end or mid end na magandang set would be best. Plus, may nakikita ako na mga set na may +1 or free na cymbal kasama in box, I would just like to clarify din if ok ung quality ng mga ganung set.
Thanks in advance! :)
Kung kaya ng budget ang Istanbuls, go for those, pag medyo di kasya, Stagg DH or SH in that order :) These are very good cast cymbals for the price, the ones from the big brands easily cost more than twice the price. Because these are handmade (also not a bad thing), give them a test run just to weed out the bad ones. Try to stay away from Zildjian ZBTs or Sabian B8s; they will definitely fit into the budget as they are "student models", but don't sound really good, and are quite shrill. Zildjian ZHT is priced too high for the sound.
Those ones with free cymbals aren't really much of a deal if they're ZBTs and B8s (pag mga Zildjian A/K or Sabian AA/HH ok yan). A basic trio set (hi hat pair, ride, crash) of high quality is a much better choice.
As for the "ease of use," Istanbuls sound pretty great on anything actually, so does the Stagg DH line. Stagg SH is great for pop, rock, metal, punk, electronic, acid jazz, funk, the kind that doesn't demand too much complexity.
Istanbuls are available in Lyric, Staggs are available in The Music Source (sa cubao andun lahat ng major music shops) :)
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on November 13, 2014, 09:49:02 AM
Kung kaya ng budget ang Istanbuls, go for those, pag medyo di kasya, Stagg DH or SH in that order :) These are very good cast cymbals for the price, the ones from the big brands easily cost more than twice the price. Because these are handmade (also not a bad thing), give them a test run just to weed out the bad ones. Try to stay away from Zildjian ZBTs or Sabian B8s; they will definitely fit into the budget as they are "student models", but don't sound really good, and are quite shrill. Zildjian ZHT is priced too high for the sound.
Those ones with free cymbals aren't really much of a deal if they're ZBTs and B8s (pag mga Zildjian A/K or Sabian AA/HH ok yan). A basic trio set (hi hat pair, ride, crash) of high quality is a much better choice.
As for the "ease of use," Istanbuls sound pretty great on anything actually, so does the Stagg DH line. Stagg SH is great for pop, rock, metal, punk, electronic, acid jazz, funk, the kind that doesn't demand too much complexity.
Istanbuls are available in Lyric, Staggs are available in The Music Source (sa cubao andun lahat ng major music shops) :)
Everything he said ^^^
however, nasa Lazer ang istanbul cymbals <3
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Post by: sonicassault on November 13, 2014, 09:53:39 AM
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Post by: adriancedo on November 13, 2014, 10:20:54 AM
Thanks for these infos guys!
I thought I was going for the ZHT (JB) and the B8 Pro (Yupangco) kasi sila ung main players sa lowend/midend cymbals market. I never thought may mga ganitong cymbals on the tier na palaban na.
I will visit today ung stores to check out the deals and will post again kung alin ung kinuha ko :D
Anyway, hirap pa din father and brother ko sa good set na bibilihin nila (haha!). They are eyeing for a Gretsch Catalina Maple/Ash na 6pc sana, mga nasa ganung level pero I think meron pang mas better. Any suggestions?
Maraming salamat ulit! :)
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on November 13, 2014, 10:56:55 AM
I thought I was going for the ZHT (JB) and the B8 Pro (Yupangco) kasi sila ung main players sa lowend/midend cymbals market. I never thought may mga ganitong cymbals on the tier na palaban na.
I will visit today ung stores to check out the deals and will post again kung alin ung kinuha ko :D
Anyway, hirap pa din father and brother ko sa good set na bibilihin nila (haha!). They are eyeing for a Gretsch Catalina Maple/Ash na 6pc sana, mga nasa ganung level pero I think meron pang mas better. Any suggestions?
Maraming salamat ulit! :)
ingat sa gretsch kits brother ha. merong batch ng gretsch kits na may bad lugs. pumuputok yung lugs kahit di pa naccrank.
try looking at TAMA and Pearl.
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Post by: sonicassault on November 13, 2014, 11:06:48 AM
I thought I was going for the ZHT (JB) and the B8 Pro (Yupangco) kasi sila ung main players sa lowend/midend cymbals market. I never thought may mga ganitong cymbals on the tier na palaban na.
I will visit today ung stores to check out the deals and will post again kung alin ung kinuha ko :D
Anyway, hirap pa din father and brother ko sa good set na bibilihin nila (haha!). They are eyeing for a Gretsch Catalina Maple/Ash na 6pc sana, mga nasa ganung level pero I think meron pang mas better. Any suggestions?
Maraming salamat ulit! :)
Oh those B8 Pros are horrible, for me at least. Too much ping and way too bright. And of course, still a beginner cymbal. Zildjian ZHT naman is the Sabian APX equivalent, though B10 ang ZHT at B8 ang APX, ZHT isn't really targeted to professionals and is marketed as an intermediate cymbal line. It has its place though, pang metal/hard rock, parang budget version ng Zildjian Z line.
with regards sa drums, mas mahirap pumili dahil may brand loyalties yan. ako Pearl guy ako (kahit Yamaha ang nasa bahay :eek: ), so Pearl ang iaadvise ko :lol: Tama and Yamaha are popular choices here too
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Post by: zwischenzug on November 17, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
Regarding your kit, aside from Pearl and Tama, try also Sonor, available sa JB or Salonga, I'm a Sonor guy. :)
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Post by: dreddurius on November 17, 2014, 05:04:31 PM
Ingat lang sa yupangco tho. Matador sila kung tumaga sa presyo.
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Post by: adriancedo on November 18, 2014, 08:03:55 AM
Hi guys I'm back!
I got the Istanbul Mehmet Samatya set ok na ba un? 23K from Lazer (thanks to my xmas bonus!).
BTW, wala pa din kaming drumset. Haha! :eek: hirap brother and father ko humanap ng set. So your suggestions are Pearl, Tama, Yamaha. I have some variants to consider (their budget 40K max) :
1. Pearl Target or better (hindi nila type ung tom racks ng model na to) - JB MUSIC or?? 2. Tama (wala pang variant and we are not aware where to get one) 3. Yamaha Gigmaker (OK ba ang quality and sound nito? Nice hardware tho.) - YUPANGCO
What we want from our budget is quality drums with good hardware and good wood. We know we won't get the best from the budget we got, pero at least macompensate based in the quality of the drums itself.
Thanks in advance and thanks for all the infos guys! :)
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on November 18, 2014, 09:23:33 AM
I got the Istanbul Mehmet Samatya set ok na ba un? 23K from Lazer (thanks to my xmas bonus!).
BTW, wala pa din kaming drumset. Haha! :eek: hirap brother and father ko humanap ng set. So your suggestions are Pearl, Tama, Yamaha. I have some variants to consider (their budget 40K max) :
1. Pearl Target or better (hindi nila type ung tom racks ng model na to) - JB MUSIC or?? 2. Tama (wala pang variant and we are not aware where to get one) 3. Yamaha Gigmaker (OK ba ang quality and sound nito? Nice hardware tho.) - YUPANGCO
What we want from our budget is quality drums with good hardware and good wood. We know we won't get the best from the budget we got, pero at least macompensate based in the quality of the drums itself.
Thanks in advance and thanks for all the infos guys! :)
Congratulations bro! that's a great cymbal set! :D
now for the kit, IMHO, best bets for me would be the TAMA Superstar. I think pasok naman sa budget.
you can visit audiophile to see the TAMA Kits. my advice din, you can look at second hand kits :) para mas makamura ka :) kung gusto mo ng second hand kits, we can help you choose :D maraming mint condish kits dun na pamigay hahahaha :D
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Post by: pedaldeaf3 on November 19, 2014, 09:07:23 AM
San po ba may available na "DW Go Anywhere 5-Piece Practice Set" at "Gibraltar Practice Pad Kit" ???
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Post by: harugrugrug on November 19, 2014, 10:48:28 PM
I got the Istanbul Mehmet Samatya set ok na ba un? 23K from Lazer (thanks to my xmas bonus!).
BTW, wala pa din kaming drumset. Haha! :eek: hirap brother and father ko humanap ng set. So your suggestions are Pearl, Tama, Yamaha. I have some variants to consider (their budget 40K max) :
1. Pearl Target or better (hindi nila type ung tom racks ng model na to) - JB MUSIC or?? 2. Tama (wala pang variant and we are not aware where to get one) 3. Yamaha Gigmaker (OK ba ang quality and sound nito? Nice hardware tho.) - YUPANGCO
What we want from our budget is quality drums with good hardware and good wood. We know we won't get the best from the budget we got, pero at least macompensate based in the quality of the drums itself.
Thanks in advance and thanks for all the infos guys! :)
Hey good to hear from you again. Going with the Samatyas is not a bad decision at all, compared to what's available now in the market. That's bang for the buck for sure.
About your kit naman...personally you may want to look for something a notch higher than entry or student level kits like the Target/Gigmaker...try checking out the silverstar or superstar of Tama, or the Ludwig Epic...the key is go around and check what's available...and if you're open to acquiring a 2nd hand kit, ok din since there are some quality 2nd hand kits being offered here sa for sale thread...good luck and hope you find what you're looking for! ; )
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Post by: gss on November 20, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
I saw one at Megamall, pero medyo matagal na yun...I suggest you inquire directly with them kung san branch meron
10k sa website nila, mas ok ata if nagpa-ship nalang ako...
Anyway, thank you po sa replies...
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Post by: bulok on November 25, 2014, 09:06:36 PM
okay ba ang mapex drum kit? yung horizon hzb or kahit yung meridian birch? sa mga mapex user ano po masasabi nyo dito:
gaano katagal na sya sa inyo? matibay ba yung lugs?(hindi ba nasisira pagtagal at pag naitono ng mataas?) okay ba yung hardware?(cymbal/snare stand) okay ba yung shells? lalo na yung bearing edge? okay ba yung hoops? hindi ba madaling mabend?
patulong naman po! salamat sa mga sasagot!
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Post by: peeves24 on November 26, 2014, 02:53:01 PM
okay ba ang mapex drum kit? yung horizon hzb or kahit yung meridian birch? sa mga mapex user ano po masasabi nyo dito:
gaano katagal na sya sa inyo? matibay ba yung lugs?(hindi ba nasisira pagtagal at pag naitono ng mataas?) okay ba yung hardware?(cymbal/snare stand) okay ba yung shells? lalo na yung bearing edge? okay ba yung hoops? hindi ba madaling mabend?
patulong naman po! salamat sa mga sasagot!
yup ok mapex. dont shy, just buy. underrated. sila din kasi gumagawa ng mga sonor drums except sq2. its already a guarantee of their quality.
- biased opinion from a saturn owner :-D
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Post by: bulok on November 26, 2014, 03:13:51 PM
yup ok mapex. dont shy, just buy. underrated. sila din kasi gumagawa ng mga sonor drums except sq2. its already a guarantee of their quality.
- biased opinion from a saturn owner :-D
hmmm mapex meridian birch vs tama superstar mo sir? hehe
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Post by: peeves24 on November 26, 2014, 03:25:48 PM
same quality pero personally meridian birch kasi hindi naka die cast hoops. i prefer regular triple flange, nakaka muffle kasi ng tunog ang diecast
sound malamang pareho din yun kung pareho sila ng style ng hoops
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Post by: bulok on November 26, 2014, 03:34:04 PM
E yung horizon hzb? Yung birch/basswood? Hanap ko kasi yung madagundong na tunog ng toms na may katamtamang attack lang. Iniisip ko kasi na yung birch mas focus at hindi masyadong magbibigay ng fat round sound
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Post by: bulok on November 26, 2014, 03:42:23 PM
same quality pero personally meridian birch kasi hindi naka die cast hoops. i prefer regular triple flange, nakaka muffle kasi ng tunog ang diecast
sound malamang pareho din yun kung pareho sila ng style ng hoops
mejo magiging positive pala para sa akin yung die cast hoops ng superstar kasi panget ang acoustics sa room na paglalagyan ko ng drums. at isa pa mas control siguro yung soud pag die cast pag magrerecord? tama ba?
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Post by: harugrugrug on November 26, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
mejo magiging positive pala para sa akin yung die cast hoops ng superstar kasi panget ang acoustics sa room na paglalagyan ko ng drums. at isa pa mas control siguro yung soud pag die cast pag magrerecord? tama ba?
Mas controlled ang die cast,so pigil ang tunog.😄
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Post by: bulok on November 27, 2014, 12:21:30 AM
So positive sya para sa recording? Hindi kasi maganda yung reverb sa room ko. Masyadong mareverb
Better talk to pao,he's more experienced in recording and if you are really interested on his kit better Talk to him now,parang May buyer ata siya na interested din.
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Post by: bulok on November 27, 2014, 01:31:04 PM
Better talk to pao,he's more experienced in recording and if you are really interested on his kit better Talk to him now,parang May buyer ata siya na interested din.
Wala pa sa akin kasi yung pera at ang first pick ko yung meridian birch gawa ng shell size at hardware
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Post by: peeves24 on November 27, 2014, 02:36:46 PM
So positive sya para sa recording? Hindi kasi maganda yung reverb sa room ko. Masyadong mareverb
diecast hoops will not help you. besides its always better - no, not better - ITS ALWAYS BEST to acoustically treat your room first. kahit di ka magrerecording.
kung mareverb, add a lot of: 1. absorbers - carpet, kurtina, sofa, unan 2. diffusers - bookshelves
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Post by: bulok on November 28, 2014, 05:33:47 PM
diecast hoops will not help you. besides its always better - no, not better - ITS ALWAYS BEST to acoustically treat your room first. kahit di ka magrerecording.
kung mareverb, add a lot of: 1. absorbers - carpet, kurtina, sofa, unan 2. diffusers - bookshelves
Thanks!
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Post by: bulok on November 28, 2014, 05:38:53 PM
Okay na ba yung mapex horizon hx? Basswood shell. Ang shell size nya 10 12 16 toms 22x18bd at 14x5.5 snare tapos complete hardware. O yung superstar ni master peeves? Badtrip kase wala ng stock ng meridian birch kahit yung horizon hzb(birch/basswood). Ang natitira na stock na lang yung meridian maple(hindi ko na afford) at yung horizon big city(jazz kit) :eek:
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Post by: harugrugrug on November 28, 2014, 10:46:47 PM
Okay na ba yung mapex horizon hx? Basswood shell. Ang shell size nya 10 12 16 toms 22x18bd at 14x5.5 snare tapos complete hardware. O yung superstar ni master peeves? Badtrip kase wala ng stock ng meridian birch kahit yung horizon hzb(birch/basswood). Ang natitira na stock na lang yung meridian maple(hindi ko na afford) at yung horizon big city(jazz kit) :eek:
Oks naman yun,pero you might want to try Tama silverstar,kung price range ng mm birch ng mapex Oks din yun.pag cash e may discount sila less 10 percent
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Post by: bulok on November 28, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
Nagtingin ako sa channel.com.ph para sa reference ng price. Yung tama silverstar naabot ng 37k-41k hindi kaya ng budget. May 30% discount kasi yung meridian kaya pasok sa budget ko. E kaso walang available na hehe malas. Btw, eto yung review sa mapex horizon hx: http://m.musicradar.com/reviews/drums/mapex-horizon-hx-drum-kit-260029/ (http://m.musicradar.com/reviews/drums/mapex-horizon-hx-drum-kit-260029/) Okay lang ba ang basswood shell? Advantage nung horizon brand new yun at may hardware na. Kaso basswood shell lang. Pero yung superstar ni sir peeves birch tapos naka die cast at mukang talagang long lasting yung hardwares kaso shell pack lang(may kasama naman na 2 lazer stand) at hindi ko masyadong gusto yung sizes.
Kung okay naman ang pwedeng makuha kong tunog sa basswood shell ng horizon. Malamang maghorizon na ako. Makukuha ko naman siguro yun sa drum heads at proper tuning diba?
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Post by: harugrugrug on November 29, 2014, 09:52:01 PM
Nagtingin ako sa channel.com.ph para sa reference ng price. Yung tama silverstar naabot ng 37k-41k hindi kaya ng budget. May 30% discount kasi yung meridian kaya pasok sa budget ko. E kaso walang available na hehe malas. Btw, eto yung review sa mapex horizon hx: http://m.musicradar.com/reviews/drums/mapex-horizon-hx-drum-kit-260029/ (http://m.musicradar.com/reviews/drums/mapex-horizon-hx-drum-kit-260029/) Okay lang ba ang basswood shell? Advantage nung horizon brand new yun at may hardware na. Kaso basswood shell lang. Pero yung superstar ni sir peeves birch tapos naka die cast at mukang talagang long lasting yung hardwares kaso shell pack lang(may kasama naman na 2 lazer stand) at hindi ko masyadong gusto yung sizes.
Kung okay naman ang pwedeng makuha kong tunog sa basswood shell ng horizon. Malamang maghorizon na ako. Makukuha ko naman siguro yun sa drum heads at proper tuning diba?
Ahhh.oks,if your heart desires mapex,go! Hehe,yup invest on heads na Lang. :-D
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Post by: smurssshhh on December 01, 2014, 05:35:17 PM
Mga sir may nakagamit na ba sa inyo ng Threaded Drum Throne ng Lazer?may nakapag sabi kasi sakin na matibay dn..
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Post by: peeves24 on December 01, 2014, 05:38:27 PM
ayos yun. mura pa.
tanong mo rin baka may naitabi pa sila na basix throne. mas maganda yun pero same price
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Post by: smurssshhh on December 02, 2014, 01:10:45 PM
Thank you sir peeves..mga nasa magkano kaya yung basix drum throne na yun sir? :D
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Post by: lupin on December 08, 2014, 09:21:04 AM
Meron na po bang nakagamit na dito ng Traps Drums? Meron po ba kayong tuning suggestions? :)
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Post by: peeves24 on December 08, 2014, 10:28:23 AM
just tune it like how you would tune a real set
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Post by: lupin on December 11, 2014, 08:05:42 AM
thanks sir peeves! yung bass drum ang medyo mahirap itono sa kanya, matining masyado.
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Post by: bulok on December 29, 2014, 12:32:41 AM
Kaya kaya ng lazer clamp(2 holes) yung double tom holder tapos ikakabit ko sa mapex boom stand? Matibay kaya yun? O bili na lang ako ng gibraltar clamp? Magkano ba ang lazer clamp at gibraltar clamp? Balak ko kasi gawing offset rack tom setup kaso wala akong double tom holder stand. Ang meron lang ako yung stock na mapex double tom holder. Hindi naman sya kasya sa mga cymbal stand ko kaya naisip ko kung i-clamp ko na lang sya
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Post by: harugrugrug on December 29, 2014, 09:15:08 AM
Kaya kaya ng lazer clamp(2 holes) yung double tom holder tapos ikakabit ko sa mapex boom stand? Matibay kaya yun? O bili na lang ako ng gibraltar clamp? Magkano ba ang lazer clamp at gibraltar clamp? Balak ko kasi gawing offset rack tom setup kaso wala akong double tom holder stand. Ang meron lang ako yung stock na mapex double tom holder. Hindi naman sya kasya sa mga cymbal stand ko kaya naisip ko kung i-clamp ko na lang sya
Gibraltar na kang bro,don't risk it,hehe
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Post by: bulok on December 29, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
Ganito yung sinasabi ko sir (http://www.xmusic.ie/images/D/Gibraltar%20Clamp%20Std%20Grabber%20Sc4425g%20LRG.jpg)
Magkano kaya yan? Malas nga lang dumaan ako sa raon kanina wala ng available na gibraltar clamp nakalimutan ko naman itanong kung magkano. Kaya kaya nyan yung bigat ng double tom holder at dalawang rack toms tapos ikakabit ko sa mapex boom stand? Sana may mahanap pa ako kahit 2nd hand
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Post by: harugrugrug on January 02, 2015, 10:05:36 AM
Hanap Ka classifieds at sa fb. I think 1.5k-2k? Just make sure na heavy duty at nakalapat yung legs ng stand mo
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Post by: morley89 on January 03, 2015, 03:00:10 AM
balak ko sanang bumili ng drumset sa music store sta mesa.fernando o steely drumset.ok na ba un?ok ba dun bumili kesa sa music store sa malls?pang practice lng at studio sa bahay.tnx :)
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Post by: peeves24 on January 05, 2015, 10:46:49 AM
kung nagtitipid ka at plano mo lang bumili ng kahit anong mura na drums, kahit ano at kahit saan pwede na kung sa tingin mo pasok sa budget.
no need to choose, pare pareho lang yan at tinatakan lang ng ibang pangalan sa factory.
sorry, that's the harsh truth
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Post by: bulok on January 05, 2015, 05:11:20 PM
kung nagtitipid at gusto ng magandang quality compare sa mga cheap na brand na may cheap na quality, magabang abang lang ng 2nd hand kit. ganun talaga ang buhay :cry:
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Post by: beberickJEM on July 21, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
HELP! :D
ano pong pinaka magandang drums set for my budget around 30-40k. kasama na po yung hardwares nya.
salamat poooo
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Post by: sonicassault on July 22, 2015, 09:00:16 AM
ano pong pinaka magandang drums set for my budget around 30-40k. kasama na po yung hardwares nya.
salamat poooo
hanap ka ng second hand kit sa classifieds. you can get a nice pearl or gretsch sa price na yan.
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Post by: beberickJEM on July 22, 2015, 04:35:56 PM
thanks sir! is Sonor Force 2001 a good one?
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Post by: sonicassault on July 22, 2015, 04:44:29 PM
ano ang magandang entry level junior size/club sized kit (18" kick, [8]/10/12/14 toms) pag secondhand kukunin? Ang alam ko lang kasi Pearl Target Jr., baka may mas ok pa na brand/model :) gusto ko palitan yung gigmaker ko ang laki :eek:
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 22, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
ano ang magandang entry level junior size/club sized kit (18" kick, [8]/10/12/14 toms) pag secondhand kukunin? Ang alam ko lang kasi Pearl Target Jr., baka may mas ok pa na brand/model :) gusto ko palitan yung gigmaker ko ang laki :eek:
gretsch or tama. they have club kits. imho tho, okay lang mag club or jungle kit pag wala ka talagang space or travelling ka lagi with the drumset. nakukulangan ako sa kick eh.
try looking at TRAPS drums. those sound great!
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Post by: sonicassault on July 22, 2015, 06:07:38 PM
gretsch or tama. they have club kits. imho tho, okay lang mag club or jungle kit pag wala ka talagang space or travelling ka lagi with the drumset. nakukulangan ako sa kick eh.
try looking at TRAPS drums. those sound great!
Pinag-isipan ko din yung TRAPS, pero parang kulang sa beef, pang practice lang. tingnan ko rin kung ano ang setup ni Weckl ngayon, alam ko naka 18 kick sya currently, ok naman yung tunog, di lang pang metal. I might look at the Tama, kasi lagi mo namemention yung lugs ng gretsch :roll: anong model name nila ang club/jr size?
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 22, 2015, 06:33:58 PM
Pinag-isipan ko din yung TRAPS, pero parang kulang sa beef, pang practice lang. tingnan ko rin kung ano ang setup ni Weckl ngayon, alam ko naka 18 kick sya currently, ok naman yung tunog, di lang pang metal. I might look at the Tama, kasi lagi mo namemention yung lugs ng gretsch :roll: anong model name nila ang club/jr size?
i personally whacked the [gooey brown stuff] out of a traps kit. malakas siya paps. tunog real kit na. you just have to mic the bass bass drum para ramdam na ramdam. imho kasi yung 18 mabibitin ka talaga kasi hindi na siya as boomy as you'd want it.
yung sa gretsch, catalina yung nakita kong club kit. yung sa tama, superstar model siya.
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Post by: sonicassault on July 22, 2015, 06:47:42 PM
i personally whacked the [gooey brown stuff] out of a traps kit. malakas siya paps. tunog real kit na. you just have to mic the bass bass drum para ramdam na ramdam. imho kasi yung 18 mabibitin ka talaga kasi hindi na siya as boomy as you'd want it.
yung sa gretsch, catalina yung nakita kong club kit. yung sa tama, superstar model siya.
parang higanteng roto toms? :roll:
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 22, 2015, 07:07:17 PM
traps + aquarian heads is the good kind of gooey brown stuff
So I'm watching youtube videos of the A400 model. Kick mic and one overhead. I'll be damned! Convincing nga! The rack toms do sound full! The snare sounds good as well. Yung floor tom lang ang kulang sakin pero swak yung rack toms!
Any idea how they manage to make these drums sound great without a shell? :roll:
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 23, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
So I'm watching youtube videos of the A400 model. Kick mic and one overhead. I'll be damned! Convincing nga! The rack toms do sound full! The snare sounds good as well. Yung floor tom lang ang kulang sakin pero swak yung rack toms!
Any idea how they manage to make these drums sound great without a shell? :roll:
i really dont know HAHAHAHAHA okay din floor tom niyan. depende lang sa tuning. and tama si peeves. traps plus aquarian talaga. boom baby!
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Post by: sonicassault on July 23, 2015, 11:06:22 AM
Sa drum throne ay tapos na po. Yung drum carpet ay search not found kahit pa "drum mat" or "drum rug" ang tinype ay wala pa rin. Any suggestion po?
A drum carpet is just an ordinary carpet. Just search for a carpet that will fit your setup.
I never ordered drum sets from Lazada but the better offerings there are just the same as the ones offered in major retailers like JB, Lyric, etc. you'd be better off going to a store anyway so you can check it yourself before you buy it and not have the hassle of shipping back a whole drum set to lazada.
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EDIT: a smaller carpet can work as long as it covers the entire bass drum, bass pedal, and hi hat pedal.
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Post by: Roller_Caster on December 09, 2015, 03:15:20 PM
A drum carpet is just an ordinary carpet. Just search for a carpet that will fit your setup.
I never ordered drum sets from Lazada but the better offerings there are just the same as the ones offered in major retailers like JB, Lyric, etc. you'd be better off going to a store anyway so you can check it yourself before you buy it and not have the hassle of shipping back a whole drum set to lazada.
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EDIT: a smaller carpet can work as long as it covers the entire bass drum, bass pedal, and hi hat pedal.
Thank you sir! :wave:
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Post by: bulok on December 30, 2015, 04:16:46 PM
Sinong nakabili na ng item sa channel.com.ph? Okay ba service nila? Plano kong bumili ng microphones and cables.pati na din stands
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 04, 2016, 12:01:56 PM
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Post by: zwischenzug on February 04, 2016, 05:28:54 PM
Mga masters. Balak kong i-explore magplay ng double peds, ano ba magandang brand na matibay na ayos for beginner like me? Ok na ba yung Gibraltar na brand, chain or direct drive?
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 04, 2016, 05:33:18 PM
Mga masters. Balak kong i-explore magplay ng double peds, ano ba magandang brand na matibay na ayos for beginner like me? Ok na ba yung Gibraltar na brand, chain or direct drive?
Gibraltar okay na yan. imho, depende sa preference mo kung belt, chain or direct.
for me, belt is the best kasi smooth.
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Post by: zwischenzug on February 04, 2016, 06:29:24 PM
Thanks master ralph.
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Post by: brandobandit on March 20, 2016, 10:15:51 PM
Magandang gabi sa lahat ng musikero dito!
New member here. And thanks ADMIN for accepting my registration :D
Anyway, curious lang. Nag-order kasi ako sa Lazada last week ng RJ Drumset and this week na yata madeliver.
Ok kaya ang RJ Drumset? Di ba madali masira yung hardware niya? Maingat naman ako sa aking mga instruments pero iba kasi pag drum na.
Salamat sa mga sasagot! Keep on rockin'!
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 21, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
New member here. And thanks ADMIN for accepting my registration :D
Anyway, curious lang. Nag-order kasi ako sa Lazada last week ng RJ Drumset and this week na yata madeliver.
Ok kaya ang RJ Drumset? Di ba madali masira yung hardware niya? Maingat naman ako sa aking mga instruments pero iba kasi pag drum na.
Salamat sa mga sasagot! Keep on rockin'!
hardware mgkakatalo paps, lalo na sa hihat stand at cymbal stands. ang tip ko lang, easy lang sa paghigpit ng mga locks and nuts nung mga stands dahil madali malose thread.
good luck sa drumming adventure mo paps!
additional tip: palitan mo yung "skin" or drum heads para gumanda tunog :D
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Post by: anjell @ kimchiland on April 02, 2016, 10:36:22 PM
hi everyone. i'm completely newbie pagdating sa drums, since gitara ang main instrument ko a while back, we were able to play in a venue kung saan yung drum throne ay connected to a metronome-type device. the way it works, kapag nakaupo ka sa drum throne at nagstart yung metronome, mararamdaman mo yung vibration/beats sa drum throne mismo. in short, ramdam mo yung bayo ng metronome beat sa upuan mismo.
ano ang tawag sa ganung device? any leads as to where I can buy that device in manila? thanks in advance!
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Post by: sonicassault on April 03, 2016, 05:56:57 AM
hi everyone. i'm completely newbie pagdating sa drums, since gitara ang main instrument ko a while back, we were able to play in a venue kung saan yung drum throne ay connected to a metronome-type device. the way it works, kapag nakaupo ka sa drum throne at nagstart yung metronome, mararamdaman mo yung vibration/beats sa drum throne mismo. in short, ramdam mo yung bayo ng metronome beat sa upuan mismo.
ano ang tawag sa ganung device? any leads as to where I can buy that device in manila? thanks in advance!
It's called an LFE (low frequency effects) transducer. Most popular brand is the Buttkicker (because it makes the throne vibrate). It's usually used to replace the giant ass kick drum monitor. Also used to replicate the rumble of guitar cabs onstage (John Petrucci uses one on stage).
Ewan ko lang kung saan nakakabili. Amazon? :lol:
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Post by: anjell @ kimchiland on April 03, 2016, 06:33:12 PM
thanks for the info, bro. i don't exactly recall, but i don't know if the throne has an attached device (like the buttkicker) in the venue. it probably has one. all i remember are the wiring extending from the throne. medyo mahal din pala.
another question. where can i get an affordable drum throne in manila?
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Post by: harugrugrug on April 04, 2016, 08:47:59 AM
sa jb may ok na throne around 3k kaso its not really padded,tingin ko fb groups din. :-\
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Post by: anjell @ kimchiland on April 05, 2016, 07:29:40 PM
thanks for the information bro.
will check out fb drum groups that sell equipment
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 06, 2016, 11:10:11 AM
hi everyone. i'm completely newbie pagdating sa drums, since gitara ang main instrument ko a while back, we were able to play in a venue kung saan yung drum throne ay connected to a metronome-type device. the way it works, kapag nakaupo ka sa drum throne at nagstart yung metronome, mararamdaman mo yung vibration/beats sa drum throne mismo. in short, ramdam mo yung bayo ng metronome beat sa upuan mismo.
ano ang tawag sa ganung device? any leads as to where I can buy that device in manila? thanks in advance!
go to daichi showroom sa 5th ng megamall. ask for the aura shaker pero warning na rin, sobrang expensive ng price nila kahit locally made yung item. mas mura kung bibili ka na lang sa madisound or partsexpress tapos paship mo dito
o kaya bili ka na lang ng soundbrenner metronome para mas portable. check it out sa https://www.facebook.com/nelldenmusic/
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Post by: metalheadz on May 06, 2016, 01:40:47 PM
can anyone recommend me a full, complete kit for around idk 35k? must have crash, splash and ride. chimes would be nice as well. thanks drummers! :money:
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 06, 2016, 03:06:28 PM
can anyone recommend me a full, complete kit for around idk 35k? must have crash, splash and ride. chimes would be nice as well. thanks drummers! :money:
kit? as in drumset with crash splash and ride plus chimes????? mejo mababa budget natin sir. at 35k you'll only get a decent drumkit plus basic cymbals.
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Post by: bulok on June 06, 2016, 10:36:19 PM
Okay ba ang samson r21 para i-mic ang toms?
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 07, 2016, 01:15:18 PM
kung I ttrigger mo naman, okay lang naman. kung purely mic audio lang, depende sa genre may babagayan.
hindi ko pa natesting na gawing trigger. siguro pag nakabili na ako ng mic. mostly metal ang genre. kung mahirapan na magcut sa mix. mag parallel compression na lang ako. at kung mahirap talaga magcut sa mix. try ko i-replace ng vst samples at gawin kong trigger ang mic
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 07, 2016, 01:31:24 PM
hindi ko pa natesting na gawing trigger. siguro pag nakabili na ako ng mic. mostly metal ang genre. kung mahirapan na magcut sa mix. mag parallel compression na lang ako. at kung mahirap talaga magcut sa mix. try ko i-replace ng vst samples at gawin kong trigger ang mic
kung metal paps, advise ko itrigger mo nalang. use a mic + drumagog. pero kailangan 1 mic per drum part.
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Post by: bulok on June 07, 2016, 01:36:30 PM
kung metal paps, advise ko itrigger mo nalang. use a mic + drumagog. pero kailangan 1 mic per drum part.
kaso kung gagawing trigger hindi ba magiging tunog robot yun? i mean, hindi ba magiging iisa lang ang tunong ng bawat note? kaya parin kaya makuha yung dynamics?
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Post by: bulok on June 07, 2016, 02:03:17 PM
kaso kung gagawing trigger hindi ba magiging tunog robot yun? i mean, hindi ba magiging iisa lang ang tunong ng bawat note? kaya parin kaya makuha yung dynamics?
hindi naman paps. may option naman through Drumagog to mix in the original signal para maging organic pa din yung tunog eh. tapos regarding dynamics, set mo lang ng maayos yung threshold para sa velocity. nawa'y consistent pumalo si drummer niyo though :D
hindi naman paps. may option naman through Drumagog to mix in the original signal para maging organic pa din yung tunog eh. tapos regarding dynamics, set mo lang ng maayos yung threshold para sa velocity. nawa'y consistent pumalo si drummer niyo though :D
Drumagog paps. pero wala na ako nito dahil against na ako sa pirata software huhuhuhu
Nagawa ko na boss. Pero gamit ko yung stock plugin ng reaper (stillwell drum trigger+addictive drum2) kaso sa bass drum ko palang nasubukan. Mamaya ko pa makukuha sa audiophile yung r21 mics
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 08, 2016, 10:49:47 AM
Nagawa ko na boss. Pero gamit ko yung stock plugin ng reaper (stillwell drum trigger+addictive drum2) kaso sa bass drum ko palang nasubukan. Mamaya ko pa makukuha sa audiophile yung r21 mics
ayan paps, pasok din yan. good luck!
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Post by: jojonathan on June 22, 2016, 07:13:55 PM
Which is good for double pedal? Demon drive or speed cobra?
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 23, 2016, 09:54:29 AM
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Post by: iyzburg on August 09, 2016, 03:53:13 PM
I put in 'Cajon' in the search box, ain't that satisfied with replies to this same query that I have:
- What can you recommend is a good cajon? - Is it really that much better to get a premium brand? (Like guitarwise, getting an Ibanez is better than a Fernando/RJ/etc).. - Any review and price info for these two local makers: Cajon De Manila (https://www.facebook.com/cajon.demanila), and Cajon Drum Philippines / Repub-Likha (https://www.facebook.com/Cajon-Drum-Philippines-560155927337228/home)
Thank you for your help..
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 09, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
I put in 'Cajon' in the search box, ain't that satisfied with replies to this same query that I have:
- What can you recommend is a good cajon? - Is it really that much better to get a premium brand? (Like guitarwise, getting an Ibanez is better than a Fernando/RJ/etc).. - Any review and price info for these two local makers: Cajon De Manila (https://www.facebook.com/cajon.demanila), and Cajon Drum Philippines / Repub-Likha (https://www.facebook.com/Cajon-Drum-Philippines-560155927337228/home)
Thank you for your help..
There's LP and Meinl. the locally made cajons are okay, however, ang lagging problem is either makapal masyado yung front na wood, or walang "depth" or ibang tunog other than the bass and the slap.
in the end paps, you get what you pay for. kung non technical tug tug pak lang naman, you're good with a cheaper alternative. if you plan to do those colorful perc patterns, then you might wanna consider getting the good ones.
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Post by: skrumian on December 26, 2016, 12:16:08 AM
Ano pinagkaiba, pros and cons ng rim-mounted vs shell-mounted na tom? Which is better? Pansin ko lang rin mas mura ang shell-mounted toms kit kumpara sa rim-mounted.
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on December 29, 2016, 09:47:36 AM
Ano pinagkaiba, pros and cons ng rim-mounted vs shell-mounted na tom? Which is better? Pansin ko lang rin mas mura ang shell-mounted toms kit kumpara sa rim-mounted.
rim mounted toms will sing/ring better than a shell mounted tom. rim mounted toms allow for maximum vibration of the shell with no hindering/retarding factors.
less screws and butas sa toms = better sounding toms (almost always)
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Post by: skrumian on December 29, 2016, 10:41:53 AM
^^ thanks paps.
Advisable ba na iupgrade ang shell mounted toms by tom isolation suspension mounts?
Or, ayos lang din ba ang snare stand para sa toms?
imho, kung to begin with eh shell mounted na ang tom, mejo hindi rin sobrang significant ng effect to upgrade it with a Rim mount system. unless I seseal mo rin ynug mga butas nung tom galing sa shell mount system niya.
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Post by: peeves24 on December 29, 2016, 09:09:56 PM
di rin ok mag upgrade ng rims kung lalagyan mo lang din ng muffling yung heads :-D
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 03, 2017, 10:49:26 AM