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Title: help! BASIC PEDAL SET-UP>>>
Post by: nikburn on February 28, 2007, 05:20:35 PM
plano ko pong magsetup ng mga pedals, help nman po kung ano ung mga kelangan (tulad ng name ng jack para sa pedal to pedal, PSM-5???)

ok lng bang set-up na mt-2 - boston ddelay - flanger>>??? (like ko po mga joe satriani sounds)

basic info nman po dyan!!! (info sa basic pedals, suggest pedal set-up and others!)

tnxs...
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Post by: lowtuneduser on February 28, 2007, 05:26:14 PM
unahin mo flanger bago delay.
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Post by: ritch_079 on February 28, 2007, 09:54:23 PM
unahin mo flanger bago delay.
+1  :-D

tpos ung psu, pwde mo gamitin ung visual sound one-spot adaptor and dc chain.. or ung godlyke na brand.. or pwde ka rin magpa-custom made, marami dyan guamgawa.. hehe
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Post by: axedry on February 28, 2007, 09:58:23 PM
sa pedal setup  check mo to:

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10275.0.html

baka makakuha ka ng idea, daming pics dun   :-)
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Post by: rainierito on February 28, 2007, 11:47:48 PM
dirt-modulation-time based
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Post by: badongrodrigs on March 01, 2007, 01:21:14 AM
dirt-modulation-time based

not necessarily  :-D

bro kung ako sayo, itry mo lahat. wala naman kasing steady formula and rules of thumb eh. bale, its all in your ears and preferences. for example. if you put the delay last in the chain (which is the most logical in terms of experience and study) makakakuha ka ng long and "reverby" delays.

BUT.

if you put the delay first in the chain, makakakuha ka ng EXACT replica ng guitar sound mo. as in EXACT. its best for slapback delay. i believe ganito ang setup ni john dinopol who incorporates delay in their songs. :-D

happy experimenting!
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Post by: lowtuneduser on March 01, 2007, 01:56:49 AM
oo john dinopol nauna delay bago yung distortion nya. pero depende pa din talaga yan pero if your asking sa basic set up pedal. sundan mo yung cnbe ni ranierito. experiment ka din depende talaga sa kung anong tunong yung gusto mo. good luck!
Title: Re: help! BASIC PEDAL SET-UP>>>
Post by: nikburn on March 01, 2007, 02:24:45 AM
tnxs sa mga info!!! laking tulong...

maliban sa PSM-5, meron pa bang ibang pedal pra madistribute ung power supply???
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Post by: ubersam on March 01, 2007, 02:46:43 AM
dirt-modulation-time based

not necessarily  :-D

bro kung ako sayo, itry mo lahat. wala naman kasing steady formula and rules of thumb eh. bale, its all in your ears and preferences...
Exactly. I personally prefer modulation>dirt>time-based. However, nowadays its just guitar>amp.
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Post by: badongrodrigs on March 01, 2007, 02:55:51 AM
tnxs sa mga info!!! laking tulong...

maliban sa PSM-5, meron pa bang ibang pedal pra madistribute ung power supply???

LS2 Line Selector.  :-D kaso lang it would be a total waste of money kung iilan lang ang effects mo. ang main purpose kasi nun e switching between different chains na (ex: switch between dirty chain and clean chain and modulation chain, etc.)
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Post by: lowtuneduser on March 01, 2007, 04:03:05 AM
LS-2 or NS-2 pwedeng mag power ng peds pero mag PSM ka na lang kase mas mura.
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Post by: akosimic on March 01, 2007, 06:05:00 AM
kugn power supply lang na may iba pang purpose, go for the pedal tuner of boss. i dont think you would be doing any line switching with 3 pedals (correct me if im wrong). ns-2 pwede rin.
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Post by: nikburn on March 02, 2007, 12:08:35 AM
san ba nakakabili ng one spot power supply or ung godlyke(me kcma ba ung daisy chain)??? kano retail price????
Title: Re: help! BASIC PEDAL SET-UP>>>
Post by: nikburn on March 02, 2007, 12:13:15 AM
dagdag lng sa tanong ko, pwede ba cia sa ibat ibang brand ng mga pedals??? o mas ok ung Boss

PSA-series AC adaptor with a PCS-20A parallel DC cable??? TNXS....
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Post by: nikburn on March 02, 2007, 10:17:25 AM
ano po? (tanong sa taas)
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Post by: ECUA on March 02, 2007, 11:17:32 AM
dagdag lng sa tanong ko, pwede ba cia sa ibat ibang brand ng mga pedals??? o mas ok ung Boss



adaptor for Boss ay pede rin gamitin sa boston/gtx. Basta, just look for the polarity of the adaptor and the effect if they are compatible :-)
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Post by: nikburn on March 04, 2007, 01:11:22 AM
matanong ko lang ung mga BOSS pedals ba lahat made in japan??? o meron din iba??? kung

meron ano mas ok??>>>tnxs
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Post by: lowtuneduser on March 04, 2007, 02:50:55 AM
taiwan and japan.
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Post by: lowtuneduser on March 04, 2007, 03:36:06 AM
karamihan ngayon puro taiwan na.
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Post by: badongrodrigs on March 04, 2007, 03:54:05 AM
taiwan and japan.

sa totoo lang di ko alam ung difference. even the taiwans are made like tanks  :-D
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Post by: lowtuneduser on March 04, 2007, 04:38:21 AM
siguro yung pagiging rare na lang yung pinagkaiba ng japan?
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Post by: badongrodrigs on March 04, 2007, 05:08:37 AM
siguro yung pagiging rare na lang yung pinagkaiba ng japan?

for collectors nalang siguro ito. kasi the audience wont care if its taiwan or japan as long as it sounds good  :-D
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Post by: lowtuneduser on March 04, 2007, 03:09:06 PM
siguro yung pagiging rare na lang yung pinagkaiba ng japan?

for collectors nalang siguro ito. kasi the audience wont care if its taiwan or japan as long as it sounds good  :-D

oo pang collectors talaga, kase saken puro taiwan eh! :-D

basta working well and makininis pa (para saken) ok na yun!
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Post by: nikburn on March 04, 2007, 08:48:17 PM
me nabibilhan ba na branded power supply pra sa pedals set-up sa pinas??? kng meron san and

wat is the price??? kac sabi ung one spot daw and godlyke ala d2 pinas and mahal pala un!!!
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Post by: badongrodrigs on March 04, 2007, 09:35:31 PM
me nabibilhan ba na branded power supply pra sa pedals set-up sa pinas??? kng meron san and

wat is the price??? kac sabi ung one spot daw and godlyke ala d2 pinas and mahal pala un!!!


alam ko wala talaga. unless nga e kung boss. meron Boss Line Selector sa yupanco (perfect pitch at yamaha). pwedeng powersupply yan.

better yet, madaming custom makers ng PSU dito sa forums (ex: justin and Kalikot audio, si lemon, tapos ung pedalmax)
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Post by: nikburn on March 05, 2007, 01:45:29 AM
aahhh... ok!

how much ba pgawa ng power supply? pics nman dyan ng sample custom made!!!

cka cno ung gumagawa na tga antipolo, cubao o around UST area lng???
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Post by: badongrodrigs on March 05, 2007, 04:27:01 AM
bro do your research  :-D

check mo threads dito sa Guitar Central at dun sa BuyNSell, positive ako makikita mo ung hinahanap mo.
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Post by: nikburn on March 05, 2007, 10:14:49 PM
cno sa mga custom makers d2 ung gumagawa ng transparent power supply?

ung tama lng ang price! tnxs
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Post by: lowtuneduser on March 06, 2007, 02:53:53 AM
cno sa mga custom makers d2 ung gumagawa ng transparent power supply?

ung tama lng ang price! tnxs
ej_basses
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Post by: bakx on July 02, 2007, 12:16:36 AM
sir
ok nb ung  od100 mt2 eq100 flanger n set up ng pedal??
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Post by: chypre on September 17, 2007, 09:58:49 AM
Just starting to shift from multi to analog. Noob question lang for basic pedal setup:

guitar>boss compressor/sustainer>boss distortion/feedbacker>boston heavy metal>zoom 707(for modulation effects)

kahit sagad na levels nung dalawang boss mahina pa rin yung tone na lumalabas, especially the distortion? pero yung boston malakas naman. What seems to be the problem here?is it possible na patch cable yan? or maybe sa power supply?(i use monde's PSU with 5 9v outputs) or maybe may tama yung dalawang boss(kasi di masyado nagagamit, nkastock lang)

thanks :?


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Post by: demoboi on September 17, 2007, 01:37:44 PM
Just starting to shift from multi to analog. Noob question lang for basic pedal setup:

guitar>boss compressor/sustainer>boss distortion/feedbacker>boston heavy metal>zoom 707(for modulation effects)

kahit sagad na levels nung dalawang boss mahina pa rin yung tone na lumalabas, especially the distortion? pero yung boston malakas naman. What seems to be the problem here?is it possible na patch cable yan? or maybe sa power supply?(i use monde's PSU with 5 9v outputs) or maybe may tama yung dalawang boss(kasi di masyado nagagamit, nkastock lang)

thanks :?




Sa tingin ko sa 707 mo.. Na try ko rin kc guitar>HM100>707>AMP mahina.. nawawalan ng gain ung HM100 hindi na mabigat. khit of ko na eq ng 707. dapat I-raise mo ung patch level siguro para lumakas. or what if sa send/return mo lagay ung 707. drive peds mo straight to the amp. Terrible loss of signal if pag-nauna ung HM100 kaysa 707. kaya current setup ko is GUITAR>707(pangboost na din)>HM100>amp.. Based on exp. lang yan ha.. try mo..
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Post by: demoboi on September 17, 2007, 01:43:43 PM
oo john dinopol nauna delay bago yung distortion nya. pero depende pa din talaga yan pero if your asking sa basic set up pedal. sundan mo yung cnbe ni ranierito. experiment ka din depende talaga sa kung anong tunong yung gusto mo. good luck!

IDOL! URBANDUB! :mrgreen: :-D :mrgreen:
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Post by: juan sinko on September 17, 2007, 03:58:13 PM
ako setup ko boss delay, boss super overdrive, and a boss wah
minsan pinaghalo halo ko arrangemenet nito 3 pedals

ano 2g2g are you in?
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Post by: chypre on September 17, 2007, 04:16:54 PM
Sa tingin ko sa 707 mo.. Na try ko rin kc guitar>HM100>707>AMP mahina.. nawawalan ng gain ung HM100 hindi na mabigat. khit of ko na eq ng 707. dapat I-raise mo ung patch level siguro para lumakas. or what if sa send/return mo lagay ung 707. drive peds mo straight to the amp. Terrible loss of signal if pag-nauna ung HM100 kaysa 707. kaya current setup ko is GUITAR>707(pangboost na din)>HM100>amp.. Based on exp. lang yan ha.. try mo..

ah ganun ba.. try ko. Actually yung heavy metal naman walang problema, malakas nga siya actually, yung dalawang boss ang mahina.. pero sige, try ko na lang i re arrange..

thanks
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Post by: lickers on December 06, 2007, 03:48:51 PM
Ano po ba ang "UNA" sa chain wah pedal or compressor pedal :? :? :? help.
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Post by: lowtuneduser on December 06, 2007, 06:08:47 PM
tingin ko wah muna bago compressor, hindi ko lang sure :-D
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Post by: the_Nong on December 06, 2007, 11:12:49 PM
basic sakin is:

BOSS MT-2+BOSTON Engr, Super Chorus+BOSS AW-3+DOD F-13+DOD YJM308 Preamp OD.

pag pracktis or jam if they need a deep metallick sound: apak sa MT-2. pang classic rock: apak sa Preamp OD. pang change lang ng texture when needed ung AW-3, F-13 & Chorus. pero swave din minsan pag meron Chorus..

so basically, it all depends on what you play and what sound you want.. usually happy nako sa PRE AMP OverDrive..
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Post by: circle on December 06, 2007, 11:16:16 PM
depende kasi yan sa sound na gusto mo ma-attain.  kung gusto mo flexible, mas ideal na mag effects pad ka na lang.
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Post by: MelMe1 on March 13, 2008, 06:53:32 PM
ilang mA ba dapat ang power supply mo kapag yung mga effects mo ay distortion, flanger,super chorus,digital delay,overdrive,wah pedal at volume pedal?
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Post by: rad_12 on March 13, 2008, 07:38:54 PM
1400ma i think or higher , compressor, dirt, flanger, delay, wah yan yung idea ko sa arrangement.
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Post by: mxpx_1007 on March 13, 2008, 08:14:08 PM
bro...depende sa type ng tugtugan mo ang gagawin mong setup..

kung mahilig ka sa maiingay at kaskasan eh distortion or overdrive pwede na..tapos compressor..for clean tone naman, kung kulang sa budget, pili ka dito, chorus, phaser or flanger..pero kung kaya mo lahat bilhin eh much better..

then eq, para may pang boost ng tunog mo even if not-so-good-amp ang gamit mo..

patch cables ang tawag sa cable na pang series ng effects..bili ka sa raon..may 75 pesos lng..

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Post by: posera!! on March 13, 2008, 10:10:57 PM
tu-2 hehe my tuner kna my psu kapa dc chain nalang at adaptor.. hehe :-D
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Post by: MelMe1 on March 14, 2008, 08:18:10 PM
ano bang downside kapag adapter lang gamitin mo pero pinutol mo yung wire at linagyan mo ng 5 outputs para isang adapter 5 effects ang bubuhayin niya?safe ba   kung ganun ang gagawin ko?wala kasing gumagawa ng power supply dito sa davao!
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Post by: xid02 on March 14, 2008, 10:50:52 PM
hindi siguro kakayanin ng adapter mo yan...
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Post by: mxpx_1007 on March 15, 2008, 12:40:41 PM
ano bang downside kapag adapter lang gamitin mo pero pinutol mo yung wire at linagyan mo ng 5 outputs para isang adapter 5 effects ang bubuhayin niya?safe ba   kung ganun ang gagawin ko?wala kasing gumagawa ng power supply dito sa davao!

bro..puputok ung adaptor mo..kasi d mo naman dinagdagan ung total ampheres niya tapos dinagdagan mo pa ng input so hindi na nya kayang suplayan lahat..iinit yun hanggang sa sumabog..

alam ko eh nagdedeliver si emil ng pedalmax..kaw nga lang magbabayad ng cargo fee..
pero ok psu nya..wala ka ng hahanapin pa..

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Post by: MelMe1 on March 15, 2008, 01:33:17 PM
1000mA naman yung gagamitin kung adapter?sige try ko kausapin yung mga power supply makers sa manila! :-D
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Post by: mxpx_1007 on March 15, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
1000mA naman yung gagamitin kung adapter?sige try ko kausapin yung mga power supply makers sa manila! :-D

kahit na bro..

usually ang mga custom psu eh nagrarange ng 1A above..

kasi ang isang ordinary stomp box eh 200mA na..so kung 1000mA lang ung adaptor mo..hindi mo pwdeng gamitan ng 5 stomp boxes with 200mA each..

sabi kasi ni sir emil ng pedalmax, dapat may ititira kang amperahe sa psu mo and  i forgot his term for that..basta ganon ung principle..

and each stomp box and brand do have differenent amphere reqs...so isa pa un sa consideration mo para makuha ung total amphere mo for your psu..

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Post by: MelMe1 on March 15, 2008, 02:17:14 PM
200mA pala ang isang pedal?akala ko 20mA lang kasi nakalagay dun sa manual ng pedal ko 20mA at sabi din ni sir bamf na 20mA ang mga pedals kung hindi delay!thank you sa payo niyo sir. Try ko na lang kausapin si pedalmax kung papayag siya gawan niya ako! :-D
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Post by: boogsy on March 15, 2008, 03:26:02 PM
I believe pedals dont have that much current draw. nasa 30-60mA lang ata eh. Im not sure though. A BOSS PSA outs 200mA and it can power 3 pedals.
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Post by: MelMe1 on March 15, 2008, 08:21:10 PM
18mA lang nga pala ang boston engineering. Nasa manual current draw: 18mA DC9v. Diba ang laman ng power supply ay katulad lang ng adapter?tama ba?
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Post by: shodawmoon on June 21, 2008, 11:34:29 PM
si ser Emil Murillo of PEDALMAX...san ka sa antipolo pare???
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Post by: guitbox on June 22, 2008, 12:09:20 AM
I believe pedals dont have that much current draw. nasa 30-60mA lang ata eh. Im not sure though. A BOSS PSA outs 200mA and it can power 3 pedals.

i agree...

actually, for dirt peds it's just in the 15mA+ area.
for modulation/delay pedals, it can reach up to 60mA.

so a 1A psu should be good enough already.
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Post by: arkeetar on June 22, 2008, 11:52:15 AM
dapat may allowance ka sa psu, hindi ka sasagad...  :-D

and kailangan regulated...

pedalmax! thru air21, dadating s'yo yan, saka ok kausap si emil :-D
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Post by: greenweenie on June 22, 2008, 02:42:42 PM
LS-2 or NS-2 pwedeng mag power ng peds pero mag PSM ka na lang kase mas mura.

Lol. Kung naghahanap lang ng pang power na may useful function, TU-2 na.
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Post by: MelMe1 on August 03, 2008, 08:49:48 PM
Patulong naman mga Sir sa pagarrange ng aking effects.
Ang effects ko ay screaming blues,hyper fuzz at chorus.

Ano ba ang dapat mauna ang Screaming blues o ang hyper fuzz?
Saan ko ikakabit yung patch cable ko sa Screaming blues?Dalawa kasi yung output niya, may output 1 (Amp) Output 2 (Mixer)? Alin po dun sa dalawa?

Natry ko po yung setup na AMP>>>CHORUS>>>HYPER FUZZ>>>OUTPUT 2 (MIXER) SCREAMING BLUES>>>GUITAR

Ang problema ay kapag isabay kung gamitin ang hyper fuzz at screaming blues lalakas yung volume kahit volume 5 sa amp volume 5 sa Screaming blues at Volume  0 sa hyper fuzz. Ang ingay ng resulta at pangit yung tone na lumalabas.
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Post by: guitbox on August 04, 2008, 12:29:58 AM
kung ako yan, ganito:
gtr>screamin blues>fuzz>chorus

pero dahil manageable ung set-up mo, pwede ka naman mag-experiment kung anong magandang combination dahil wala naman eksaktong rule on how to arrange them.

kung pagsasabayin mo naman dirt peds mo, i suggest gawin mong booster ung blues---meaning set mo sa 0 ung gain at max ang volume nya.  however, i haven't tried any of the mentioned (dirt) pedals so i'm just making a calculated guess on how you can do it.

lastly, for w/c output jack to use---use 'output 1'. yung 'output 2' e kung ala kang amp.,  pwede un gamitin derecho sa mixer.
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Post by: manilacoke3 on August 04, 2008, 02:27:40 AM
if you say you're into Satriani's, then DS1 + Wah would be the basic.
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Post by: greenweenie on August 04, 2008, 10:18:04 AM
if you say you're into Satriani's, then DS1 + Wah would be the basic.

Baliktad si Satriani. Wah > DS1. I prefer the opposite.
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Post by: the_Nong on August 15, 2008, 05:34:35 PM
basic set-up update:

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g20/the_Nong/032.jpg)

wah > BOSS FZ-5 > BOSS BD-2 > MXR Micro Amp
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Post by: diaboliche on September 09, 2008, 07:02:05 PM
Mga sir paano po ba e set up ang zoom g1 at modded ds100? :-D
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Post by: maxi_musikero on September 15, 2008, 09:45:59 AM
question for the experts:

if i have a preamp/DI and a reverb unit, what will be my best arrangement for the best tone:

a)  acoustic guitar - reverb unit - preamp/DI - mixer

b)  acoustic guitar - preamp/DI - reverb unit - mixer

the reverb unit is like your normal multi-effects unit.  meaning the input and the output are both 1/4 PL unbalanced.  the preamp/DI has a balanced out.
 :-)

EDIT:  i had to post this here because i'm not getting answers on the original thread i posted this in.  hopefully i will get answers here.  thanks! :-)
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Post by: cumbersome on September 15, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
^I'd recommend this- acoustic>reverb>DI/preamp. If you put the reverb last on the chain, you'll end up with an unbalanced signal. It might be better to just use the mixer reverb though and take the reverb effect out of the chain. Just a suggestion. :)
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Post by: maxi_musikero on September 15, 2008, 11:53:58 AM
^I'd recommend this- acoustic>reverb>DI/preamp. If you put the reverb last on the chain, you'll end up with an unbalanced signal. It might be better to just use the mixer reverb though and take the reverb effect out of the chain. Just a suggestion. :)

this the setup that i had in mind also...but a friend told me to put the preamp/DI first before the reverb.  what's the difference? 

mixer reverbs have limited capability.  i want to be more flexible in my reverb tone as much as possible.  :-)
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Post by: cumbersome on September 15, 2008, 02:11:45 PM
^The preamp-then-reverb arrangement is the recommended order of effects because it better simulates an amp in a room or a hall (sound comes out of the amp, bounces in the room thus creating reverb). But in your case, i would think that it's more important to have a balanced signal than following such recommendation. Better yet, get a reverb with balanced I/O, in which case you can put it after the preamp. Or a preamp with built-in reverb. :)
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Post by: maxi_musikero on September 16, 2008, 02:25:59 PM
^The preamp-then-reverb arrangement is the recommended order of effects because it better simulates an amp in a room or a hall (sound comes out of the amp, bounces in the room thus creating reverb). But in your case, i would think that it's more important to have a balanced signal than following such recommendation. Better yet, get a reverb with balanced I/O, in which case you can put it after the preamp. Or a preamp with built-in reverb. :)

ano bang possible impact pag hindi ko nasunod yung recommended setup?  will the controls in the preamp/DI and the reverb unit still work?  distinguishable parin yung change in tone pag nag-tweak?
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Post by: MelMe1 on September 16, 2008, 11:13:46 PM
Ano ba masmagandang pakinggan at dapat? Ano ang dapat mauna distortion or overdrive?
Mauna ang Turbo Distortion then Blues driver or Blues driver tapos turbo distortion? Any suggestions? :-D tnx! really need help.
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Post by: the_Nong on September 16, 2008, 11:45:38 PM
Ano ba masmagandang pakinggan at dapat? Ano ang dapat mauna distortion or overdrive?
Mauna ang Turbo Distortion then Blues driver or Blues driver tapos turbo distortion? Any suggestions? :-D tnx! really need help.

depends sa taste o sa sound na gusto mo. i never used both dirt and dist pedals at the same time.

i doesnt matter kung anu mauna sa set up.. what sound are you looking for / you want?
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Post by: MelMe1 on September 17, 2008, 09:29:58 AM
Hindi ko kasi madistinguish ang pinagkaiba eh pero normally ano ba dapat?
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Post by: guitbox on September 17, 2008, 09:45:49 AM
it really depends sa application mo.

natutunan ko rin to dito and thru experience...

if you use them individually, it wouldn't matter w/c one goes first.
but if you cascade them, you have 2 scenarios:
1) whatever you put first in the chain (from guitar), adds gain to the
second--->gain boosting
2) whatever you put after, adds volume and "color"--->volume boosting

on #2, volume is achieved when your setting is: 0 gain, max level (on the 2nd pedal).  "color" meaning the sound is a combo of the 2 pedals.

hope this helps.   :-D
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Post by: MelMe1 on September 17, 2008, 10:14:57 AM
So masmaganda pala kapag mauna ang ds2 kesa sa bd2.
Pero kung kayo ang ipapasetup nito ano ang uunahin niyo?
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Post by: guitbox on September 17, 2008, 12:33:21 PM
So masmaganda pala kapag mauna ang ds2 kesa sa bd2.
Pero kung kayo ang ipapasetup nito ano ang uunahin niyo?


"masmaganda" can only be determined by yourself---what works for your ears and/or application.  but if i were to set this up it would be:

gtr > ds2 > bd2

reason:
given the 2 pedal setup, i intend to boost the ds2 for solos.
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Post by: nez on October 02, 2008, 10:06:23 AM
Getting joe satriani sound
1.your pick-ups Humbuckers rewound medium output
2.marshall amp or peavey if marshall set FX to chorus delay.
3.DS-1 Brit mod,Digital delay.for the warm sound
   MXR doubleshot dist.and morley power Wah for psched out sound

hehe
^_^ just a little help..
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Post by: locoto on October 03, 2008, 11:23:45 AM
mga sir patulong paano po ang magandang set-up ng mga pedals ko? hndi ko alam ang tamang pgkakasunod-sunod eto pedals ko=dd6,ts7 tubescreamer,phase90,ge7,sd1
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Post by: Kclan on October 03, 2008, 01:40:25 PM
you want JSatch's sound? here it is:


http://www.satriani.com/gear/

simple yet rock!!! :evil:



 :mrgreen:
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Post by: rajidhimud on October 03, 2008, 03:30:17 PM
Steve Vai's rig
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff78/rajid_himud/steves_rig.jpg)
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Post by: lestervai on October 03, 2008, 05:59:14 PM
sakit sa ulo pagaralan nung kay papa steve.. hehehe

lawak talaga ng utak ng mga musician..

di lang pang tugtugan

pang electronics pa...hehhe
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Post by: rajidhimud on October 03, 2008, 11:04:46 PM
+100

 8-)
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Post by: nez on October 06, 2008, 03:06:05 PM
(http://www.zip.com.au/~mayor/satriani/images/gear_2000_rig.jpg)
Joe Satriani's Setup
^_^ hehe
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Post by: nez on October 10, 2008, 11:08:28 AM
UP
Arrangement of
Analogue pedals varies depending on what works for you..
^_^
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Post by: daturd on November 25, 2009, 02:08:26 PM
mga sir. magpapatulong lang sana ako sa pag arrange ng pagkasunod sunod ng pedals ko.wala kasi ako idea kung pano gawin ito. ano po kaya magandang power supply para mapagana mga eto? magpapabili sana ako sa kapatid ko ng voodoo lab sa US pero 110 daw dun. ok lang po ba ipa convert sa 220 dito sa pinas? salamat..
1.boss ds1 keeley
2.boss mt2 keeley
3.fulltone OCD
4.Vox satchurator
5.line6 DL4
6.boss dd3
7.boss chromatic tuner
8.boss rv5
9.boss bf3
10.mxr 10 band EQ
11.boss Noise supressor
12.Mxr phase 90
13.boss CE5 
14.crybaby wah classic gcb95f
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Post by: SeafoodPancake on November 25, 2009, 09:32:05 PM
it really depends sa application mo.

natutunan ko rin to dito and thru experience...

if you use them individually, it wouldn't matter w/c one goes first.
but if you cascade them, you have 2 scenarios:
1) whatever you put first in the chain (from guitar), adds gain to the
second--->gain boosting
2) whatever you put after, adds volume and "color"--->volume boosting

on #2, volume is achieved when your setting is: 0 gain, max level (on the 2nd pedal).  "color" meaning the sound is a combo of the 2 pedals.

hope this helps.   :-D


yan din ang opinion ko pag dating sa pag boost.. try to experiment.. :wink:
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Post by: revs on June 14, 2010, 03:46:07 PM
hello mga idol! baguhan lng aq sa analog efex i was using a boss zoom707II and a boss me20 before, hindi ko mkuha ung gsto ko tunog parang ang nipis ng distort at d ko maxado matimpla mga modulations ko.. kaya i decided to go analog. atm meron n aq boss mt2, ds1, ph3, dd6, ch1 and a dunlop wah ped.. anu kya magandang setup d2? tugtugan nmin ngaun tipong franco and udub.. help po pls :-D
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Post by: r_chino18 on June 14, 2010, 03:55:05 PM
hello mga idol! baguhan lng aq sa analog efex i was using a boss zoom707II and a boss me20 before, hindi ko mkuha ung gsto ko tunog parang ang nipis ng distort at d ko maxado matimpla mga modulations ko.. kaya i decided to go analog. atm meron n aq boss mt2, ds1, ph3, dd6, ch1 and a dunlop wah ped.. anu kya magandang setup d2? tugtugan nmin ngaun tipong franco and udub.. help po pls :-D

first of all.. iwas muna tayo sa text spell bro.. visit the Guitar Central Rules and Regulations muna.. ayt?  :wink:

next.. there is no boss zoom 707 II.. only a Zoom 707II.  :-)

to answer your question.. try mo sila i-arrange ng ganito bro..

Guitar > Dunlop Wah > PH3 > DS1 > MT2 > CH1 > DD6.. pero pwede mo ilagay either before or after ng mga dirt pedal yung PH3 at CH1..  :-)

welcome sa philmusic bro.. enjoy your stay.. rakenrol !  :wink:
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Post by: heavensgraveyard on June 14, 2010, 03:57:59 PM
experiment ka lang pre gang makuha mo trip mong sound..
isang tip sa on choosing delay pedals..
analog delay-deeper and sad tone
digital delay-brighter tone
 :lol: :evil:
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Post by: revs on June 14, 2010, 04:03:10 PM
first of all.. iwas muna tayo sa text spell bro.. visit the Guitar Central Rules and Regulations muna.. ayt?  :wink:

next.. there is no boss zoom 707 II.. only a Zoom 707II.  :-)

to answer your question.. try mo sila i-arrange ng ganito bro..

Guitar > Dunlop Wah > PH3 > DS1 > MT2 > CH1 > DD6.. pero pwede mo ilagay either before or after ng mga dirt pedal yung PH3 at CH1..  :-)

welcome sa philmusic bro.. enjoy your stay.. rakenrol !  :wink:

ay sorry po newbie rin sa site  :lol:.. and yes sobrang na excite lang sa pag type kaya naging boss ung zoom707II hahaha.. cge will try this pag uwi ko! tsaka balak ko rin pla bumili ng ns2 tsaka nung compression sustainer, anu kaya maganda unahin?

(salamat nga pala sa pag welcome!  :mrgreen:)
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Post by: r_chino18 on June 14, 2010, 04:14:55 PM
ay sorry po newbie rin sa site  :lol:.. and yes sobrang na excite lang sa pag type kaya naging boss ung zoom707II hahaha.. cge will try this pag uwi ko! tsaka balak ko rin pla bumili ng ns2 tsaka nung compression sustainer, anu kaya maganda unahin?

(salamat nga pala sa pag welcome!  :mrgreen:)

no prob bro. you're most welcome.  :-)

kung may noise issues ka ngayon, get an NS2 or pgrade your patch cables and guitar cables.. pero kung wala naman, go lang sa CS..  :-)
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Post by: revs on June 14, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
no prob bro. you're most welcome.  :-)

kung may noise issues ka ngayon, get an NS2 or pgrade your patch cables and guitar cables.. pero kung wala naman, go lang sa CS..  :-)

ok sige! i cant wait to go home to try the setup! pero habang nag aantay mag babasa muna ako sa mga topics dito sa site.. sobrang newbie ko sa analog pati ung mga mods hindi ko alam na may ganun pala!
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Post by: sensei on June 22, 2010, 04:50:47 PM
san ba nakakabili ng one spot power supply or ung godlyke(me kcma ba ung daisy chain)??? kano retail price????

i suggest wag ka muna umiskor nito, gamit ka na lang boss ns2 or boss ls2 or boss tu2 as your power supply, double purpose na yang mga yan kaya it would save some space on your pedalboard, tapos gamit ka ng boss psa230s adaptor 500 mA to kaya walang hassle magdistribute ng power sa disto/od at mga modulation effects sa set-up mo. sana makatulong. peace!
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Post by: r_chino18 on June 22, 2010, 05:27:45 PM
i suggest wag ka muna umiskor nito, gamit ka na lang boss ns2 or boss ls2 or boss tu2 as your power supply, double purpose na yang mga yan kaya it would save some space on your pedalboard, tapos gamit ka ng boss psa230s adaptor 500 mA to kaya walang hassle magdistribute ng power sa disto/od at mga modulation effects sa set-up mo. sana makatulong. peace!

hmm... sa palagay ko, may PSU na siya sa ngayon..  :wink:

although pwede rin yung suggestion mo, yun nga lang, baka hindi na siya applicable pag sobrang dami ng pedals.. you can have a single PSA adaptor which can give out 500mA, pero di rin natin sure kung yung feature ng pedal na magshare ng power ay 500mA din ang ibibigay niya.. usually ay mababa lang.. enough for a small setup..
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Post by: pualux on June 22, 2010, 06:32:34 PM
try yahoo's psu, got mine from him, does the job adequately.

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Post by: sensei on June 22, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
hmm... sa palagay ko, may PSU na siya sa ngayon..  :wink:

although pwede rin yung suggestion mo, yun nga lang, baka hindi na siya applicable pag sobrang dami ng pedals.. you can have a single PSA adaptor which can give out 500mA, pero di rin natin sure kung yung feature ng pedal na magshare ng power ay 500mA din ang ibibigay niya.. usually ay mababa lang.. enough for a small setup..

ay oo nga sir yung suggestion ko would apply to a small set-up like mine pero kung marami nga mag PSU ka na. dati gator gbus8 ang gamit ko pero nung nagbawas ako ng set-up nag ns2 na lang ako as my power supply here's the pic:
(http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2362/13094769/23303124/388836311.jpg)
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Post by: donard on June 23, 2010, 08:57:13 AM
not necessarily  :-D

bro kung ako sayo, itry mo lahat. wala naman kasing steady formula and rules of thumb eh. bale, its all in your ears and preferences. for example. if you put the delay last in the chain (which is the most logical in terms of experience and study) makakakuha ka ng long and "reverby" delays.

BUT.

if you put the delay first in the chain, makakakuha ka ng EXACT replica ng guitar sound mo. as in EXACT. its best for slapback delay. i believe ganito ang setup ni john dinopol who incorporates delay in their songs. :-D

happy experimenting!
yup nauuna yung delay nya pero i think depende rin sa  function na gusto nya. kumg napapansin natin sa ldating set up nya his dd3 is between the mt2 and crunchbox. pero ibang usapan na pag yung dl4 ang ginamit

ts> basta try ka lang ng try ng routing.
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Post by: drong on June 23, 2010, 11:36:11 AM
question mga sir may parating ako jnh v2. eto sana plan ko set-up. wah-jnh-dd3. Kelangan ko pa ba booster para sa jnh para sa pang solo? Anu ba maganda idagdag if ever sa chain eq or pre amp? Di pa kc nakaka gamit pre amp. Thanks mga sir in advance.
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Post by: r_chino18 on June 23, 2010, 11:57:03 AM
question mga sir may parating ako jnh v2. eto sana plan ko set-up. wah-jnh-dd3. Kelangan ko pa ba booster para sa jnh para sa pang solo? Anu ba maganda idagdag if ever sa chain eq or pre amp? Di pa kc nakaka gamit pre amp. Thanks mga sir in advance.

i've had a JnH before.. you can use the OD side to boost your solos..  that's why it's a 2 in 1 pedal..  :wink:
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Post by: drong on June 23, 2010, 12:06:48 PM
thanks r chino ikaw nga inaantay sumagot hehe nakita ko nga dati gear mo sa pedalboard thread.
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Post by: r_chino18 on June 23, 2010, 12:15:08 PM
thanks r chino ikaw nga inaantay sumagot hehe nakita ko nga dati gear mo sa pedalboard thread.

haha.. good to hear that bro..
pero in my case.. hehe... i didn't use the OD of jnh to boost my solos.. i used a BB preamp clone.. bale i used the BB to boost the dist side nung JnH pag solo na.. then i use the OD ng JnH to boost the BB pag stand-alone na overdrive ko yung BB.. so in any case, kung may extra funds ka pa, you can get another OD to boost the dist side ng JnH.. pag lang naman di ka nasatisfy sa OD ng JnH as a booster..  :-)
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Post by: drong on June 23, 2010, 12:27:50 PM
thanks try ko muna pag dating. may od3 ako try ko isama. kaya ko nag gas jnh nakita ko yung set up mo hehe. kay sir turi ka ba nagpa ship?
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Post by: r_chino18 on June 23, 2010, 12:30:22 PM
thanks try ko muna pag dating. may od3 ako try ko isama. kaya ko nag gas jnh nakita ko yung set up mo hehe. kay sir turi ka ba nagpa ship?

yep.. i got my JnH from him.. pero wala na rin sakin ngayon yung JnH ko bro.. a different pedal is on it's way na.. a different pedal which i had the chance to own twice.. so this will me my third time to own it..

anyway.. that's a different story.. goodluck bro sa pedals.. experiment and tweak until you get what you want..  :wink:
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Post by: drong on June 23, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
nakita ko sa ads dati jnh mo. ok bro thanks alot! abangan sa pedalboard thread bago mong gear.   :-D
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Post by: Gadreel on March 22, 2016, 02:20:23 PM
pahelp po sa pag set up, plano ko po may tuner, overdrive, delay, reverb at distortion sa board. kaso d ko alam kung pano ung pag kakasunod
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Post by: jgmredor on March 22, 2016, 08:33:21 PM
pahelp po sa pag set up, plano ko po may tuner, overdrive, delay, reverb at distortion sa board. kaso d ko alam kung pano ung pag kakasunod

Tuner (od and dist no hard rule you can interchange, experiment lang) delay then reverb.
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Post by: vexus on March 01, 2017, 02:58:51 AM
mga boss newbie here, tanong ko lang

una kasi sa chain ko yung g2.1u tapos sa hm 100 so parang nangyayari nagiging medyo tunog digital narin yung hm parang kinakain sya, pag inuna ko naman sa chain yung hm ang lakas ng feedback kahit may noise reduction sa g2.1u. pasensya na bago lang sa mga ganto
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Post by: ermonski on March 07, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
My current chain is:

guitar > Digitech Drop > Morley Power Wah > Shredhead > amp
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Post by: beronguitar on March 10, 2017, 05:01:15 AM
unahin mo yung g2.1u, tapos hanggat ma aari magkahiwalay sila ng psu to minimize the noise, naging set up ko na to once pero, tube screamer naman yung na una :)
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Post by: rad_12 on March 21, 2017, 09:27:34 AM
mga boss newbie here, tanong ko lang

una kasi sa chain ko yung g2.1u tapos sa hm 100 so parang nangyayari nagiging medyo tunog digital narin yung hm parang kinakain sya, pag inuna ko naman sa chain yung hm ang lakas ng feedback kahit may noise reduction sa g2.1u. pasensya na bago lang sa mga ganto


una kasi sa chain ko yung g2.1u tapos sa hm 100 so parang nangyayari nagiging medyo tunog digital narin yung hm parang kinakain sya, pag inuna ko naman sa chain yung hm ang lakas ng feedback kahit may noise reduction sa g2.1u. pasensya na bago lang sa mga ganto
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dati kong setup hm100 - g2 ko dati. try mong bawasan yung gain nung hm100 or kung gumagamit ka ng boost sa g2 try to make it less gain also. check mo rin cables mo kung ok ba? minsan poor connections din yan kaya maingay...psu rin, tweak ka lang until mahanap mo forever mo sa board mo joke hehehe !