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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #150 on: September 29, 2007, 11:01:06 AM »
ADAT is not a brand po. registered trademark lang ng Alesis with their 8 track digital tape recorder that was released in the early 90's. Pero YES ADAT transfer is called lightpipe :)
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #151 on: September 29, 2007, 12:22:28 PM »
ADAT is not a brand po. registered trademark lang ng Alesis with their 8 track digital tape recorder that was released in the early 90's. Pero YES ADAT transfer is called lightpipe :)

hehe.  alesis digital audio tape?  sorry boss jepoy.  i stand corrected.  thanks for clearin that up.

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« Reply #153 on: September 29, 2007, 04:11:08 PM »
hehehe np xtaxi :)
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« Reply #154 on: September 30, 2007, 04:18:12 AM »
thanks din mga sir :-)


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« Reply #155 on: October 07, 2007, 03:54:22 AM »
mga sirs... ok napo ba ito para makapag record ako sa pc?  or kulang papo? di ko kasi alam kung may mga wires pa akong dapat idagdag. salamat po ng madami

http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=37

http://shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_SM57-LC_content




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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #156 on: October 07, 2007, 09:20:33 AM »
Ano balak mo irecord? Kulang yan pag drums. Check mo if may pre-amps kasama ung mixer mo, kung wala kukulangan ng lakas ung SM57 mo. hehe

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« Reply #157 on: October 07, 2007, 10:33:19 AM »
mga sirs... ok napo ba ito para makapag record ako sa pc?  or kulang papo? di ko kasi alam kung may mga wires pa akong dapat idagdag. salamat po ng madami

http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=37

http://shure.com/ProAudio/Products/WiredMicrophones/us_pro_SM57-LC_content





if that is your equipments, Mic > USB Mixer > USB Cable to PC

with a few configurations on your DAW App... your ready to go

edit:

your monitoring speakers should be connected on the output of your USB Mixer

Check mo if may pre-amps kasama ung mixer mo,

Alesis Mixers has a good preamps.

kung wala kukulangan ng lakas ung SM57 mo. hehe

SM57 or Mics perse... doesnt have his own "LAKAS". mics always depends on mic mixer, amplifiers or mic preamps
« Last Edit: October 07, 2007, 11:22:13 AM by edgeofillusion-jepoy »
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« Reply #158 on: October 07, 2007, 12:36:15 PM »
Ano balak mo irecord? Kulang yan pag drums. Check mo if may pre-amps kasama ung mixer mo, kung wala kukulangan ng lakas ung SM57 mo. hehe

guitar lng sir, may nakalagay sa manual na may phantom mode daw yung mixer, kapag tinurn on daw yun e mgkakaroon ng boost yung 4 inputs na 48v... tama kaya pagkakaintindi ko? di ba masisira yung mic?

http://www.alesis.com/downloads/manuals/Alesis_iMultiMix8USB_Reference_revC.pdf

if that is your equipments, Mic > USB Mixer > USB Cable to PC

with a few configurations on your DAW App... your ready to go

edit:

your monitoring speakers should be connected on the output of your USB Mixer

Alesis Mixers has a good preamps.

SM57 or Mics perse... doesnt have his own "LAKAS". mics always depends on mic mixer, amplifiers or mic preamps

di ko pa sya nabibili sir, this month pa kasi papasabay ko lng sa officemate ko pgpunta nya sa us. good to hear sir kasi wala akong alam sa mixer e, first time ko palang kung sakali.

wala panga akong nakikitang monitor speakers, pwede bang head phone nalang?

may nakalagay na phantom power sabi boost daw ng 48v yung mic para sa mga condenser, atsaka kailangan ko pla ng xlr cable di ba?

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« Reply #159 on: October 07, 2007, 05:46:55 PM »
guitar lng sir, may nakalagay sa manual na may phantom mode daw yung mixer, kapag tinurn on daw yun e mgkakaroon ng boost yung 4 inputs na 48v... tama kaya pagkakaintindi ko? di ba masisira yung mic?

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Boost? Phantom power is meant for powering condenser mics, which will not work without power unlike dynamic mics such as the SM-57/58.
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« Reply #160 on: October 07, 2007, 06:23:51 PM »
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Boost? Phantom power is meant for powering condenser mics, which will not work without power unlike dynamic mics such as the SM-57/58.

I see, so i don't need the phantom power mode because I'm using a dynamic microphone. Do I need any preamp?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2007, 06:58:15 PM by jun_gats »

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« Reply #161 on: October 07, 2007, 07:22:26 PM »
I see, so i don't need the phantom power mode because I'm using a dynamic microphone. Do I need any preamp?

Usually may preamp na ang mixer. Usually the number of XLR inputs equals the number of available preamps. Make sure that the number of preamps are what you need. Most mixers under 16 channels only have 2 to 6 preamps, which may be insufficient for your needs. If you decide on a 12-channel mixer with only 4 preamps, for ex., you can supplant those with external preamps connected to the line inputs such as the MIC200 or TubeMP.
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« Reply #162 on: October 08, 2007, 06:37:29 AM »
Usually may preamp na ang mixer. Usually the number of XLR inputs equals the number of available preamps. Make sure that the number of preamps are what you need. Most mixers under 16 channels only have 2 to 6 preamps, which may be insufficient for your needs. If you decide on a 12-channel mixer with only 4 preamps, for ex., you can supplant those with external preamps connected to the line inputs such as the MIC200 or TubeMP.

This is indicated in the manual sir Kitc "4 microphone/line inputs with up to 50dB of preamp gain – gives a boost to microphones and instruments with weak levels." I only need it for guitar recording. If I need more preamps in the future pwede ko bang dagdagan ng preamp kahit 8 input lng? usually gaano kadaming preamp ba yung kailangan? intrumental rock genre yung balak kong irecord.

ito yung inoofer nila

Multimix 8 USB (4 mic/line preamps, 4 stereo inputs)
Multimix 12 USB (4 mic/line preamps, 4 stereo inputs)
Multimix 16 USB (8 mic/line preamps, 4 stereo inputs)
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« Reply #163 on: October 08, 2007, 10:02:57 AM »
This is indicated in the manual sir Kitc "4 microphone/line inputs with up to 50dB of preamp gain – gives a boost to microphones and instruments with weak levels."  I only need it for guitar recording.

I think this refers to the trim control. Phantom power only powers the preamps built into condenser mics; dynamics do not have these preamps since their  output is sufficient to drive the preamp inputs. The usage of gain in mics and preamps is different from what you are used to with guitars; there comes a point that too much gain will distort your preamp inputs. Unlike with guitars, you do not like distortion when you are capturing a sound.

If I need more preamps in the future pwede ko bang dagdagan ng preamp kahit 8 input lng? usually gaano kadaming preamp ba yung kailangan? intrumental rock genre yung balak kong irecord.

If it's only guitars, you don't need much unless you are fond of intricate miking setups; I have read of setups that used as much as 4 inputs/ preamps for one guitar! Eight preamps are easy to use up when recording a full band. Try to consider your present and future needs.

It's probably better if you choose the firewire mixers instead of the cheaper usb versions. With FW, you can record each channel separately, unlike the usb version which limits you to stereo channels only.
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« Reply #164 on: October 08, 2007, 11:35:24 AM »
I think this refers to the trim control. Phantom power only powers the preamps built into condenser mics; dynamics do not have these preamps since their  output is sufficient to drive the preamp inputs. The usage of gain in mics and preamps is different from what you are used to with guitars; there comes a point that too much gain will distort your preamp inputs. Unlike with guitars, you do not like distortion when you are capturing a sound.

If it's only guitars, you don't need much unless you are fond of intricate miking setups; I have read of setups that used as much as 4 inputs/ preamps for one guitar! Eight preamps are easy to use up when recording a full band. Try to consider your present and future needs.

It's probably better if you choose the firewire mixers instead of the cheaper usb versions. With FW, you can record each channel separately, unlike the usb version which limits you to stereo channels only.

Thank sir Kitc for all the info, I think I need to research more and save for additional fund, I thought that this is an easy walk to the park but I was wrong. It's totally a different setup from my guitar rig. :)

I also need to purchase a firewire controller card, I thought usb is better.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2007, 11:43:48 AM by jun_gats »

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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #165 on: October 08, 2007, 06:33:23 PM »
I'm selling my m-audio fast track usb if you want, isang input lang sha, pang guitar sakto pero wala pa shang pre-amp. PM mo ko if you want the details.

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« Reply #166 on: October 08, 2007, 06:51:10 PM »
I'm selling my m-audio fast track usb if you want, isang input lang sha, pang guitar sakto pero wala pa shang pre-amp. PM mo ko if you want the details.

Thanks sir, pero I prefer mixer and mic. I think I'll just save nalang kasi kulang budget ko medyo malaki pla ang kailangan ko. Prang gusto ko nadin ng monitor  :-D Wow! dumami tuloy ang gas ko.
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« Reply #167 on: October 09, 2007, 01:50:51 PM »
Sir Kitc, If I just purchase the mixer then not use the usb but connect it to a soundcard is it much better or the firewire is still the way to go?

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« Reply #168 on: October 09, 2007, 02:49:49 PM »
Sir Kitc, If I just purchase the mixer then not use the usb but connect it to a soundcard is it much better or the firewire is still the way to go?

In both cases, you will only be capable of recording 2 channels of audio. Firewire is one option, a pci soundcard like the M-Audio Delta 1010LT is another if you need multiple input capability. Personally, though, I find firewire mixers to be a very flexible option because of the portability of the interface, meaning you can easily transfer it from pc to pc without much fuss, and at the same time, the mixer can function standalone.

As an interface protocol, I find firewire to be better in terms of speed, number of channels and cpu loading, so I think firewire really is the better way to go. USB2 interfaces are just as good but at the expense of higher cpu loading. I'm waiting for reviews regarding the Toneport UX8 to verify this, but Roland's earlier UA-1000 and UA-101 bear out the fact that these USB2 interfaces work quite well.
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #169 on: October 17, 2007, 12:54:37 PM »
sir ok po maganda po bang set up to? para sa track recording using pc?

guitar/bass/mics   --- 8 or 4 input mixer --- E-1-312 M-AUDIO Jam Lab Guitar USB Audio Interface ---- pc


 heres the link of the audio interface :

http://www.jbmusic.com.ph/product.php?sessid=&sid=25&pid=542

  1. kung ok lng po  ano ba magandang mixer?
  2. meron pa po bang kulang?
  3. kung mali po set up ,, ano po magandang alternative,, tight budget kc e.

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« Reply #170 on: October 17, 2007, 01:41:49 PM »
The Jamlab only has a single 1/4" guitar input and no line inputs of any kind, making it useless to pair with a mixer as an audio interface. Save up for the 2496 Audiophile, or if you prefer usb, the Fast Trak USB: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,62048.0.html

One alternative is the Behringer UCA-202 although I hear you might have to deal with latency issues.
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #171 on: October 17, 2007, 04:54:37 PM »
salamat sa reply sir,, balak ko kasi gawin ko lng usb interface yung jamlab ,, tpos ung mixer ung ggwin ko kabitan ng inputs para sa drum mics.. ngpatanong ako sa behringer ala raw silang model na Behringer UCA-202 ..
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« Reply #172 on: October 17, 2007, 09:01:15 PM »
salamat sa reply sir,, balak ko kasi gawin ko lng usb interface yung jamlab ,, tpos ung mixer ung ggwin ko kabitan ng inputs para sa drum mics.. ngpatanong ako sa behringer ala raw silang model na Behringer UCA-202 ..

Did you talk to the right behringer guy? eto yun: http://www.behringer.com/UCA202/index.cfm?lang=eng

Usually kasama ang UCA when you buy a Xenyx mixer from Behringer.

The Jamlab CANNOT be used to connect your mixer to the computer simply because it doesn't have line inputs, only a single guitar input. The mixer's outputs are line level out and it should be connected to a soundcard's line level inputs, which the Jamlab has none. Research carefully before you make an expensive mistake.
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #173 on: October 19, 2007, 05:24:35 PM »
yup ,, nde nga po pde bilhin ung uca invididually, it comes with a mixer... salamat sir kitc..i will research more pa before consulting to you,,this thread is a big help to us beginers
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #174 on: October 20, 2007, 03:24:11 PM »
sir i want to record guitar riffs and stuff ONLY(for now hehe)

m using an old ecs a530 laptop, 20gb hd and 384 RAM, mejo low end na, but i'm considering the guitar interface usb based gadgets(tama ba ung term?) like the M-AUDIO Jam Lab Guitar USB Audio Interface or the behringer guitar link UCG102.

are these good enough gadgets to record? any experiences with 'em? ano nga pla ang "latency" i usually read sa mga posts, but doesn't care to check.

 i'm kinda off with budget kaya m opting for the ucg102 though i still wanna hear your expert opinions on this. all i want is a straight plug and play recording.

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