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Title: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: batangnon on December 06, 2015, 12:57:00 PM
Bros what do you recommend when you
Play live to cut through the mix while using
A multifx pedal? Do you have to add a booster
Or anything? tia :-D
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: plugzzzz on December 06, 2015, 02:37:09 PM
Don't use too much gain :)
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: cayle on December 06, 2015, 03:38:28 PM
Less gain, bump up the mids.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: JanMayer on December 06, 2015, 05:17:40 PM
Less gain, bump up the mids.
+1

Boost the mids! :)
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: guitaricci on December 06, 2015, 07:43:48 PM
kaibiganin mo yung sound tech.  :)
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: spetsnaz1123 on December 06, 2015, 08:43:22 PM
scoop mids  :wave:
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: j.nikko3123 on December 07, 2015, 12:04:23 AM
-Understand the venue's acoustics
-Have a common level of dynamics among your band mates,let them know that it's not a freakin' competition
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kaibiganin mo yung sound tech.  :)
+1
-Wear something special
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: sonicassault on December 07, 2015, 07:12:30 AM
Less gain, boost mids

But before that, actually know if you really need to cut through the mix. 


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Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: LaXter on December 07, 2015, 07:51:43 AM
Just don't scoop your mids

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Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: jm the mute on December 07, 2015, 12:50:00 PM
talk to your bandmates
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: Asurada666 on December 07, 2015, 08:00:17 PM
talk to your bandmates


Yes this is true, if you want to be heard, talk to your bandmates for sound coordination specially when the band has two guitarist.

correct din ung pag boost ng mids and any other info dito, but still if lahat kayo nag papalakas ng tunog. useless din. hope it helps.


Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: Skybox on December 07, 2015, 08:30:27 PM
Understand the frequency range of the instruments in your band. Look for the frequency range where you are not competing with a lot of instruments and eq your rig accordingly.

P.S. If it sounds too trebly and honky in your bedroom.. It's probably gonna sound awesome in a band setting. Lol!
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: bugoy on December 07, 2015, 11:05:20 PM
METALZONE!!!
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: chernandez1 on December 07, 2015, 11:20:36 PM
Understand the frequency range of the instruments in your band. Look for the frequency range where you are not competing with a lot of instruments and eq your rig accordingly.

P.S. If it sounds too trebly and honky in your bedroom.. It's probably gonna sound awesome in a band setting. Lol!

This, I've been playing for a while now, but I'm not really that good. And recently, nag search din ako ng topics regarding cutting through the mix, and narealize ko tong stuff na to. I mean it really makes sense, if you're going to provide what someone from the band already provides, then di ka nga maririnig.

RE: multifx sa IMO:

1. For solos don't use too much gain, as in swabeng crunch lang.
2. Boost is nice, pero I think it boils down pa rin sa EQ mo. haha
3. Wah! if my wah ka, may certain angle dun na for sure lulutang ka. Easiest way to cut through lol.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: dirtybluesplayer on December 08, 2015, 02:30:25 AM
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Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: jm the mute on December 08, 2015, 09:23:25 AM
another good tip is to ask the lights guy to give you a blue spotlight when your guitar solo come up...works everytime.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: titser_marco on December 08, 2015, 09:33:07 AM
Cutting the mix was a concept I dropped a few years back. Cutting through the mix is almost synonymous to being overbearing, ergo epal. Aim to be present in the mix, rather than cut through it.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: royc on December 08, 2015, 10:22:08 AM
You and your bandmates should learn how to lower your volume and use dynamics to emphasize different parts of a song.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: ubersam on December 09, 2015, 02:44:20 AM
Cutting the mix was a concept I dropped a few years back. Cutting through the mix is almost synonymous to being overbearing, ergo epal. Aim to be present in the mix, rather than cut through it.
This ^

It's really up to the sound tech, who ideally should know the venue's acoustics, to produce a good mix. Your job as the musician is to give the sound tech something good to work with. I've played in venues where the tech would drop the guitars from the mix because they're already too loud on the stage. So loud that they don't need to go through the p.a. anymore.

Back to making yourself be more audible while playing through a multi-fx, as already suggested, turn down the gain/distortion, bump up the mids.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: fizz450_03 on December 09, 2015, 03:35:26 AM
i think he means cutting through the mix pag magsolo?

sa previous main band ko, i can cut easily through the mix because i emphasize my mids (yes even for rhythm parts) then i have an even more mid-y patch when soloing. but apart from that, as long as i can be heard in the mix, i'm good.  :-D
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: titser_marco on December 09, 2015, 11:28:33 AM
i think he means cutting through the mix pag magsolo?

sa previous main band ko, i can cut easily through the mix because i emphasize my mids (yes even for rhythm parts) then i have an even more mid-y patch when soloing. but apart from that, as long as i can be heard in the mix, i'm good.  :-D

Yeah, reading back, I think it was more along these lines. But then, I think the principle still applies. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want to overpower everyone else in the band even during a solo. Also, in gigs where you don't have a proper PA set up (i.e. 80% of gigs in Metro Manila, at least in my experience) I want to make sure I hear the drummer even when I have to up my levels -- there's nothing worse than an out of time/pocket solo.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: pjrodz on December 09, 2015, 12:37:28 PM
Sharing some of the things that I do when performing live:

Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: batangnon on December 09, 2015, 07:24:10 PM
Thanks for all the inputs :-D greatly appreciated.
I can apply all of these.
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: fender101 on December 09, 2015, 08:45:05 PM
mapa-live or recording man, boost mids, less gain :-D
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: raybrig on December 11, 2015, 08:16:40 AM
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Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: ryantetek on December 12, 2015, 11:01:01 PM
You and your bandmates should learn how to lower your volume and use dynamics to emphasize different parts of a song.

This. Bigayan lang, volume pedal down ako pag yung isang gitarista nmin ang magsolo,
Then boost pedal nman ako pag ako nman ang solo.
Pero yung iangat ang mids, true talaga yun sa live band setting. :)
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: LaXter on December 13, 2015, 08:51:54 AM
^ Oo helpful talaga to, napanuod ko na rin yan
Title: Re: How to cut thru the mix live
Post by: batangnon on December 19, 2015, 11:55:10 PM
Thanks for the inputs! I was haired live :wave: