Author Topic: anu mas ok, GRF, B3, EVO,PHONIC, BEHRINGER, CROWN, LIVE,jBL, RCF?"speakers" (Read 21653 times)

alien_inside · « **Reply #25 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:40:28 AM »

Quote from: forerunnermusic on May 23, 2009, 11:10:44 PM

audio signal straight to powered speaker...no processing...open space.....just the way we like it done.

In any location EXCEPT Basketball Court...especially if its a covered court...

Maganda talaga sa garden, backyard, golf course? Basta sa OPEN... Yung walang "reflection area" bah...

mbenipayo · « **Reply #26 on:** May 24, 2009, 10:24:34 AM »

I would be interesting to compare clarity & vocal reproduction...and weight

triciaaruba · « **Reply #27 on:** May 24, 2009, 11:17:23 AM »

yehey dami info,
sana makahingi ng discount po forerunner
ty

forerunnermusic · « **Reply #28 on:** May 24, 2009, 11:47:10 AM »

Just some points we would like to mention.

on the B3 U-Series, other than the U12 and U15 models, most should try to listen and test the U10/ U10a model, it competes well with 12" models of other brands. take note that our 10" and 8" models use cast frame speakers & real compression drivers...other brands just use a Phenolic tweeter or worse, a dome tweeter fitted on a horn...makes good FOH for acoustic setups in bars & restos and good stage wedges for something a bit bigger.

Then there is the higher model SIGMA Series. These are wooden enclosures with fly-points. these models use newly designed cast woofers and a Compression driver with a 2" throat, great for FOH and arrays well in clusters.

mixx · « **Reply #29 on:** May 24, 2009, 01:46:47 PM »

just out of curiousity pina setup ko this morning ung powered spkrs na behringer b300 and ung spl ps15a. signal path is cdplayer-mixer-spkr, ( i tried all music genre ie, acoustic/rnb/metal/disco etc) all tone controls are flat mixer and speakers. one thing i noticed very quickly is the spl has less mid sound (parang nka notch ung mid eq) compared to the b300, unfortunately wla akong rta so i really cant confirm which has a more flat response. my sound level was a bit limited also since sa garden lng ako nag test so was not really able to test the 2 system on its full potential. on moderate volume levels i guess pede ng pag tyagaan pero kung pang bugbugan (high volume levels) i guess it would be another story.... ill try to borrow my friends' b3 and evo and test them side by side again

alien_inside · « **Reply #30 on:** May 24, 2009, 04:36:04 PM »

Quote from: mixx on May 24, 2009, 01:46:47 PM

just out of curiousity pina setup ko this morning ung powered spkrs na behringer b300 and ung spl ps15a. signal path is cdplayer-mixer-spkr, ( i tried all music genre ie, acoustic/rnb/metal/disco etc) all tone controls are flat mixer and speakers. one thing i noticed very quickly is the spl has less mid sound (parang nka notch ung mid eq) compared to the b300, unfortunately wla akong rta so i really cant confirm which has a more flat response. my sound level was a bit limited also since sa garden lng ako nag test so was not really able to test the 2 system on its full potential. on moderate volume levels i guess pede ng pag tyagaan pero kung pang bugbugan (high volume levels) i guess it would be another story.... ill try to borrow my friends' b3 and evo and test them side by side again

The garden is the best place... Checking & Testing does not need to be LOUD... the level MUST be "LOUD ENOUGH" only... kasi if too loud, frequencies get disturbed by other freqs...

Thats why there's a line in the specs sheet like this:

Freq Response@... and Resonant Freq@...

Try it this way nxt time if you like...
Speakers must be 10meters away in front of you, let somebody sit on your side and let him talk and talk while raising up the volume...until you get that LOUD ENOUGH level, and still you can clearly hear that guy (speaking at normal speaking volume huh)beside you at least 1 meter away beside you...
And dont sound check in the evening...

Hope this helps...Paki correct if may mali...

skyjammer · « **Reply #31 on:** May 26, 2009, 05:44:03 PM »

Simulan na ang CLASH OF SPEAKERS! Count me in agad!

triciaaruba · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2009, 10:13:30 PM »

abt sa parang maligasgas ung tunog or magaspang masyado tunog,
pano matatanggal o mabbawasan?

skyjammer · « **Reply #33 on:** July 15, 2009, 10:34:50 AM »

Quote from: triciaaruba on July 13, 2009, 10:13:30 PM

abt sa parang maligasgas ung tunog or magaspang masyado tunog,
pano matatanggal o mabbawasan?

hehe! kakairita no? Ako din may mga ganung tunog pero minsanan lang. does it have anything to do with the fluctuation of electric current?

triciaaruba · « **Reply #34 on:** July 15, 2009, 11:31:45 AM »

i think nga, lalo na pag jbl eon dala ko, dun minsan ko nararamdaman , electro magnet yun eh

shaggy · « **Reply #35 on:** July 16, 2009, 08:05:56 PM »

I have been using B3 since 2003, my first pair was the TS260 model. I have added 3 pairs so total ko is 8 units na TS260 for use as monitors or sometime pang-house sa malilit na events. I bought 4 units na TS2123 and so far all of them passed my expectations. Speaking of Clarity, Design and Power Handling , I could say B3 has it all. I could probably compare it sa JBL or EV in terms of sound quality. Btw, for those who want to buy B3, you can buy ke Forerunner outlets(Music Source, SPL or direct na ke forerunner)

audioe · « **Reply #36 on:** October 15, 2009, 07:02:01 PM »

So, is there gonna be a shootout? what happened to the suggestment?

forerunnermusic · « **Reply #37 on:** October 15, 2009, 08:05:39 PM »

I think coming up with a venue was the problem.

just keep us posted.

forerunnermusic · « **Reply #38 on:** October 15, 2009, 08:45:03 PM »

Quote from: mixx on May 23, 2009, 04:49:59 PM

not sure though pero parang same lang ang mga drivers nila(b3/spl/evo).... OEM?

Definitely not.

B3 manufactures their own drivers in their own factory, this we can guarantee as our bosses go to the B3 factory twice a year for product development & sales strategy meetings.

B3's level of technology has also allowed them to develop, among other things, a bi-concentric compression driver that is being used in their new line of TLA and CL series line array speaker systems.

B3 is definitely a leader among Asian manufacturers.....have you noticed how a number china made speakers try to look similar to B3 products or some are outright copies? but they can never get the sound..simply because they use generic components.

anyway, there are just a lot of points where B3 excels.

markthevirtuoso · « **Reply #39 on:** October 16, 2009, 02:55:04 PM »

Nexxos and L-acoustics. Nuff said.

junig · « **Reply #40 on:** October 17, 2009, 06:17:11 AM »

Re: anu mas ok, GRF, B3, EVO,PHONIC, BEHRINGER, CROWN, LIVE,jBL, RCF?"speakers"

Quote from: markthevirtuoso on October 16, 2009, 02:55:04 PM

Nexxos and L-acoustics. Nuff said.

wala naman sa pinagpipilian mga sinabi mo eh.

. JBL for me.

markthevirtuoso · « **Reply #41 on:** October 17, 2009, 04:27:37 PM »

Quote from: junig on October 17, 2009, 06:17:11 AM

Re: anu mas ok, GRF, B3, EVO,PHONIC, BEHRINGER, CROWN, LIVE,jBL, RCF?"speakers"

wala naman sa pinagpipilian mga sinabi mo eh. . JBL for me.

Wala namang OR sa parameters e.

audioe · « **Reply #42 on:** October 19, 2009, 03:33:54 PM »

Quote

I think coming up with a venue was the problem.

just keep us posted.

ok.let me work on this one. i'll make some phone calls and try to get us a venue. open air, golf course.

next thing to do is organize how we'll do the listening tests.

let's do this guys. prep up your powered speakers!

sl1200ltd · « **Reply #43 on:** October 19, 2009, 03:56:57 PM »

RCF! RCF! RCF!

forerunnermusic · « **Reply #44 on:** October 19, 2009, 10:25:43 PM »

The Music Source will represent RCF, Mackie & B3.

we would want to suggest coming up with categories based on price, this is because most of the time, price plays the first consideration. it would also be the best basis to come up with the "best bang for buck" product.

we look forward to support this exercise.

forerunnermusic · « **Reply #45 on:** October 20, 2009, 10:10:05 AM »

Yung 10 inch, bi-amp pa rin ba yan?
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B3 15", 12" 10" & 8" Powered speakers are all bi-amplified, and that's what makes them perform better than a lot of other powered speakers.

on the other hand, the passive speakers of B3 have real crossovers, there are filters for the woofer & compression drivers & use hi-grade components. most entry level passive speakers just use a H--pass filter on the tweeter and the woofer is just connected directly to the input terminals.

mixx · « **Reply #46 on:** October 20, 2009, 12:10:22 PM »

sir forerunner

yung box po ba ng b3, evo or rcf is made of what material (ie mdf, plyboard

) lumubog kasi lahat ng jbl n speakers ko and nalusaw yung mga box although gumagana pa yung mga speakers but i think they may need to be reconed/rewired.... im also still thinking if it is still advisable/practical to go branded or just china made...... medyo nakaka traumatize kasi yung baha recently

redjaztin · « **Reply #47 on:** October 20, 2009, 02:16:16 PM »

@forerunnermusic

meron po bang B3 10" powered speakers (PAIR) na worth 10-15k? kailangan po sana namin sa church. tatagal po kaya iyon ng 5-6hrs once a week? yung pwedeng gawing monitor na din po...

pa PM naman po ng prices. thanks and God Bless!

forerunnermusic · « **Reply #48 on:** October 20, 2009, 07:07:56 PM »

Quote from: mixx on October 20, 2009, 12:10:22 PM

yung box po ba ng b3, evo or rcf is made of what material (ie mdf, plyboard ) lumubog kasi lahat ng jbl n speakers ko and nalusaw yung mga box although gumagana pa yung mga speakers but i think they may need to be reconed/rewired.... im also still thinking if it is still advisable/practical to go branded or just china made...... medyo nakaka traumatize kasi yung baha recently

you may have speakers with MDF, HDF or particle board which, when exposed to water, absorbs all the water it can take and expands and eventually looses its integrity.

B3 enclosures are made of a couple of materials depending on model.

PLASTIC ENCLOSURES

TS and U- Series enclosures are made of high impact ABS. These have also been made to a specific mix so that it would not be brittle as to break on impact. The ABS used is also produced to a have a certain dampness so as not to rattle when playing at high levels.

It has also been UV tested as not to discolor after long exposure to sunlight such as installs outdoors.

a good example are those permanently installed around the Araneta Coliseum, those things have been there for over 3 years, working day in & day out, getting rain, sunshine and the Manila pollution...and still are OK

WOOD ENCLOSURES

wooden enclosures such as the Sigma Series use 13-layer Birch Plywood additionally protected by tough paint.

RCF Italy

RCF, being the high quality Italian product that it is, uses Baltic Birch for its wooden enclosure and high grade Composite Polypropylene for its ART Series...

forerunnermusic · « **Reply #49 on:** October 20, 2009, 07:13:31 PM »

Quote from: redjaztin on October 20, 2009, 02:16:16 PM

@forerunnermusic

meron po bang B3 10" powered speakers (PAIR) na worth 10-15k? kailangan po sana namin sa church. tatagal po kaya iyon ng 5-6hrs once a week? yung pwedeng gawing monitor na din po...

pa PM naman po ng prices. thanks and God Bless!

The B3 U10a (powered) is P12,900 per unit. you could check with the outlets for your net price. we usually compare the B3 10" to some other 12" competitive products with good results. B3 U-Series speakers have die-cast woofers (even the 8" model) and paired with a compression drivers.

B3 products are designed & manufactured for 100% duty cycle, meaning, you can operate them 24/7, this is due to an efficient heat management design of the amplifiers which is the cause of many failures of other powered speakers.

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Author Topic: anu mas ok, GRF, B3, EVO,PHONIC, BEHRINGER, CROWN, LIVE,jBL, RCF?"speakers" (Read 21653 times)