Drum Mics / Drum Micing Thread

[behave_blue]

i have some speakers at home..

[Akira JUMBO]

what kind? are they XLR compatible? what will you use to amp it up? How many mics are you planning to run? include the details bro..

[behave_blue]

what do you mean by xlr?? honestly, i have no idea about soundsystems...hehe

[sjon014]

XLR yung cable na kumokonek sa mic body mismo. Yung bilog may tatlong prongs. I assume you want to mic your drums for recording purposes? You'll need the drum mics, a mixer, and an interface for a PC (pwede na siguro yung Line-In ng soundcard, pero better kung may hiwalay ka).

[pmack]

ask ka sa music technology and pro audio section dito sa philmusic. dami ko natutunan dun about micing and recording equpiments and tips..

in my opinion, kahit anong mic (granted na pang instrument siya, XLR for noise reduction and hindi yung pang-karaoke mic na free pag bumili ka ng audio component) mapapatunog mo ng maganda sa technology natin ngayon at sa naglipanang mga plug-ins na makukuha mo sa internet for free.

i have a NADY drum mic package (cheap china made)
and 2 samson c01 condensers (relatively cheap din)

[xjepoyx]

if you have the budget... go for Shure SM57 microphones. Let say you have a a 5 piece drum kit you need 3 SM57 for the 3 toms 1 on your snare and 1 on the hi-hats. for the Kick... get a PG52.  for your overheads get 2 SM81.

BUT if you wanna get away with cheap ones.... get the one that pmack has. I suggest get the NADY DK7.


if you have more questions on how to set this up... try to visit Music Technology and Pro Audio Threads

[bugoy]

prepare ka siguro ng mga 30k for a low end setup 50k pesos for a mid level setup. 
pwera pa PC diyan.

[kilowattz]

singit lang po ako, tanong na din po ako sino may experiences n ayung mga regular microphones ang ginamit sa set nila.. as of now po kasi mga regular microphones lang gamit ko kasi ala budget... bali meron ako isang shure na SM58 pang overhead tas each tom,snare, and bass drum tig-iisa na regular microphone.. i tried recording na din many times okay naman po..tanong lang po ako ng extra tips about my situation... Thanks 

[pmack]

singit lang po ako, tanong na din po ako sino may experiences n ayung mga regular microphones ang ginamit sa set nila.. as of now po kasi mga regular microphones lang gamit ko kasi ala budget... bali meron ako isang shure na SM58 pang overhead tas each tom,snare, and bass drum tig-iisa na regular microphone.. i tried recording na din many times okay naman po..tanong lang po ako ng extra tips about my situation... Thanks 

kung ok naman yung sound, then good for you.
nasubukan ko na yung mga regular mics dati (the ones na nakadikit na mismo yung wire sa mic) and hindi maganda eh. kung ang goal mo is to just record your drum playing then ok siya with alot of tweaking with various softwares. pero kung goal mo is to make a decent recording for a demo or even an EP, medyo mahirap yan. hindi masyado mataas ang quality na kakalabasan ng finished product.

[kilowattz]

ginamit ko po kasi na regular mics yung split pa din yung wire...tas nka xlr na plugs na din ako...anyway thanks po @pmack sa reply nio hintay pa po ako ibang tips 

[xjepoyx]

actually its not just the mics that is important during drum recording.

there are alot of different drum miking techniques too...

try to browse ans search thru  Music Technology and Pro Audio Threads there are topics that discussed drum mics and drum mikings.

[peeves24]

i have some speakers at home..

wait wait what's your intention for using mics?

palalakasin mo lalo yung malakas na drums? o baka naman gusto mo lang marinig yung drums mo na para kang nasa studio? if you want your drums to sound studio-processed while practising, the best way is to wear ear muffs. your drums will sound compresed/eq'd but it does take time to get used to wearing one. trust me, your drums will sound better to you while not increasing your volume and it will save your hearing.

a follow up question: how's your gear?

are they upto par for micing? entry level stuff do not sound good under a mic so your budget will be better spent on better drums and cymbals instead.


anyway, whatever floats your boat 

para meron din ako macontribute dito sa thread, eto ginagamit ko ngayon with prices:

bass drum mic- samson qkick - 2500
overhead mics - behringer c2 (pair) - 3900
mixer - behringer ub1202 - 6500
pc interface for recording - behringer uca202 - 1500
xlr cables - 1500 (3 pieces, 5 meters each)
mic stands (2 boom, 1 mini stand for bass drum) - 1800

like you, i went for the cheapest i could find with the intention of recording decent enough demos. i only bought gear that i feel would serve me in more than one area. case in point:

buying 3 tom mics vs. buying 2 condenser mics

i didnt buy 3 tom mics coz i couldnt use them anywhere else besides the toms. i bought 2 condenser mics as they can capture the whole kit in stereo really well and i can also use the same mics for recording other acoustic instruments and vocals. the more applications your gear can handle, the higher return of investment.

i hook that setup to my PC via usb solve na ko dun for doing demos. its not studio-quality but it sure sounds clear enough and passable for recording EPs. may iba pa kong gear sa bahay that enables me to use that setup for live sound if i want to

in closing, answer the very first question. most of the time, you'd feel this is just a GAS attack.

[g0d5_g1ft]

nice, pao just saved me from gasing for mics hahaha thnx bro

[nashbass]

overhead mics - behringer c1 (pair) - 3900

master peeves, any comments on behringer c2 condenser mic? 

nasabi saken kasi na they come in pairs and mas mura kumpara kung bibili ng 2 behringer c1.. thanks master pao

[peeves24]

overhead mics - behringer c1 (pair) - 3900

master peeves, any comments on behringer c2 condenser mic? 

nasabi saken kasi na they come in pairs and mas mura kumpara kung bibili ng 2 behringer c1.. thanks master pao

sorry c2 pala gamit ko hehehe nalito

c1's are large diaphragm condensers while c2's are pencil-type, small diaphragm condensers. panalo ko sa presyo nung binili ko yung c2, sale kasi yun kaya 3900, 4500 ang reg price. may kasamang 2 holders, 2 foam filters at yung T-bar for XY config plus hardcase. sulit sa tunog, malinaw, malinis, konti lang noise. according sa isang forum na naresearch ko, hindi daw "balanced" ang matched pair ng c2 kaya noisy sya. pwede daw i-mod pa para maging mas tahimik kaya lang wala dito nung jfet na kailangan for the mod. satisfied naman ako sa stock na tunog at presyong 3900 wala na ko reklamo 

mahina ang capture nya ng low freq (from bass drum) which is only natural for mics of this type. for vocals, di sya kagandahan, harsh kasi sa mids, mas preferred ko pa tunog ng sm58 kesa sa kanya. maganda sya sa acoustic guitars, klaro yung pickup at dinig mo yung nuances ng fingers nung player.

[nashbass]

overhead mics - behringer c1 (pair) - 3900

master peeves, any comments on behringer c2 condenser mic? 

nasabi saken kasi na they come in pairs and mas mura kumpara kung bibili ng 2 behringer c1.. thanks master pao

sorry c2 pala gamit ko hehehe nalito

c1's are large diaphragm condensers while c2's are pencil-type, small diaphragm condensers. panalo ko sa presyo nung binili ko yung c2, sale kasi yun kaya 3900, 4500 ang reg price. may kasamang 2 holders, 2 foam filters at yung T-bar for XY config plus hardcase. sulit sa tunog, malinaw, malinis, konti lang noise. according sa isang forum na naresearch ko, hindi daw "balanced" ang matched pair ng c2 kaya noisy sya. pwede daw i-mod pa para maging mas tahimik kaya lang wala dito nung jfet na kailangan for the mod. satisfied naman ako sa stock na tunog at presyong 3900 wala na ko reklamo 

mahina ang capture nya ng low freq (from bass drum) which is only natural for mics of this type. for vocals, di sya kagandahan, harsh kasi sa mids, mas preferred ko pa tunog ng sm58 kesa sa kanya. maganda sya sa acoustic guitars, klaro yung pickup at dinig mo yung nuances ng fingers nung player.

oh ic... hmmmm.... but all in all ok ba sya as overhead drum mic?

sa alimall ka ba nakabili neto master pao? thanks ulet

[peeves24]

oo sa alimall nung june 29, 2006 hahaha

tanda ko yung date kasi binili ko yan for my very first gig nung june 30, it was also my first band's first


pakapalan na lang ng mukha. sample song recorded using my setup. walang EQ or any processing sa drums and it being a demo, didnt need much prep on my part, i just press record and wing it. i did muffle the drums to make them sound boxy and get that warm bluesy 70's sound. ganun kasi genre nung tugtugan e. left side yung drums, right yung acoustic track with metronome. i did it this way para mapractice nila yung parts nila over the drums with or without the acoustic track

http://www.raketship.com/drumblog/demo_scarface%20separate%20drums.mp3

bihira kasi kami magpractice ng band kong to kaya nirerecord namin yung parts para mapakinggan ng bawat isa before rehearsing together

[nashbass]

thanks man for the maraming many infos... malaking big help ka talaga master pao...

[behave_blue]

thanks po sa mga advice

[Akira JUMBO]

i have some speakers at home..

wait wait what's your intention for using mics?

palalakasin mo lalo yung malakas na drums? o baka naman gusto mo lang marinig yung drums mo na para kang nasa studio? if you want your drums to sound studio-processed while practising, the best way is to wear ear muffs. your drums will sound compresed/eq'd but it does take time to get used to wearing one. trust me, your drums will sound better to you while not increasing your volume and it will save your hearing.

I love what peeves said about the ear muffs!!! so true!

Thanks sir peeves, you have helped a lot of members from spending extra GAS..

[peeves24]

wehehehe thanks bro!

ok lang mag GAS basta may pang GAS 

[boytambol]

sa audiophile marami nun... per-set ata yun???

sana maka2long

[nashbass]

sa audiophile marami nun... per-set ata yun???

sana maka2long

hmmm...di ata maganda yung mga per set na binebenta... nabanggit lang naman saken... 

[peeves24]

samson yung per set nila. worth the price IMO

[palolo_worm]

or pwede mo akong i pm dude, im selling some mics at cables at recording stuff.