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Offline vinokulafu

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« on: August 07, 2006, 12:44:34 PM »
tanung lang mga Bro Kelangan ko kc ng Speaker para sa mixer amplifier ko na 200w,
Anung mas maganda SPL (ito ung brand na tinda rin ng Behringer or Wharfdale Pro.
10 to 13 kc price range ng budget ko e and ganun ang presyo nila?
help nman mga tol gagamiotin ko ito pang home studio pang banda. tnx
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Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 12:51:50 PM »
dapat tingnan mo mabuti ang specs ng mixer amp mo.

200 watts stereo o mono? sa 8 o 4 ohms?

tapos hanapin mo ang loudspeaker na match doon.

kung di mo alam, punta o tawag ka nalang sa audiophile tel. 588-0917 para tulungan ka nila.
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in terms of quality
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2006, 11:32:32 AM »
tnx sa reply bro tanung ko din sa kanila.
bro in terms of quality anu mas ok sa dalawa? or may mairerekominda ka pa bang
ibang brand sa ganung budget?tnx
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Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2006, 11:49:10 AM »
mas okey para sa akin ang wharfedale kasi loudspeaker company talaga sila, kesa ang behringer na hindi naman kilala sa paggawa ng loudspeaker. pero sa ganung budget, subukan mo rin ang samson...
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 01:01:24 PM »
I'd go Wharfdale but then, Wharfdale isn't known for producing monitors. Hifi and PA systems, yes, but monitoring speakers for mixing? Well......
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 01:07:41 PM »
I thought we're talking about PA loudspeakers for band rehearsal studio at home.
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 01:23:13 PM »
My bad!  :oops:  The term 'mixer amplifier' threw me off...
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 02:35:29 PM »
mas maganda ba yung mga Samson kesa sa GRF?
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2006, 02:36:58 PM »
GRF nga ba yun? yung sa Audiophile? :D
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2006, 02:58:20 PM »
mahirap sagutin yung tanong mo na yan kasi ang maaring maganda para sa akin ay maaring di maganda para sayo at vice-versa. subjective kaya umiiwas ako sa mga diskusyon na yan. paki audition nalang ng GRF at Samson loudspeakers sa tindahan tapos kayo na ang bahala...
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2006, 04:01:40 PM »
sa bagay tama ka dyan.. but its good to hear opinions ng mga katulad nyong mga experts & experienced. baka kasi immature pa yung listening taste ko. so comments are welcome pa rin po. :)  but the best thing to do is to listen & audition them ourselves pa rin. thanks.:)
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2006, 12:52:08 PM »
narinig ko na tumunog ung SPL maganda nman, mas nirerecommend nya ung 12"in
compare dun sa 10"in mas malutong tunog ng 10" kaysa 12".
Sabi hindi daw gawa ng Behringer ung SPL, US parts daw made in china.
ung 12" nga pala 280w and ung 10" naman 240w
kug bibilin ko ito ung12"in sana kc mas ok tunog nya and konti lang diperensya sa presyo
9+ ung 10"  ung 12" 10+
OK lang ba ung watts na 280 para sa mixer amp ko na 200watts?
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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2006, 01:02:35 PM »
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OK lang ba ung watts na 280 para sa mixer amp ko na 200watts?

underpowered ang mixer amp. hindi pwedeng lakasan kasi mahihirapan lang yan. alalay lang sa volume dapat.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2006, 01:15:40 PM »
bali panu un bro malamang na bumigay ung mixeramp ko?
So ung 200w hindi ko pwedeng masagad?
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2006, 10:17:37 PM »
mauunang masunog ang speaker bago bumigay ang mixeramp.


pag usapan nalang natin ito sa amp & speaker matching thread.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2006, 02:30:49 PM »
pag distorted na tunog ng speakers not necesarily ibig sabihin di na kaya ng speaker maaring kapos nga ang power ng amp mo tulad ng sabi ni sir tarkuz. pero sa nabasa ko sa mga post mo 200 watts na amp at 280 a speaker. bingi ka na bago mo maitodo talaga yan lakas na yan.

alam ko ang dapat talaga is mas malakas ang amp kesa sa speaker pero kung my amp ka na lapit mo nalang ung wattage. just make sure na RMS pareho ang nakasulat. baka mamaya ung isa PMPO.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2006, 10:24:54 AM »
mga tol tumingin ako ng wharfdale speaker,
bakit nakalagay 400watts music/program?
Bakit hindi 400RMS?
Tapos may sinulat din ung store na
250watts continuous
400watts music
500 watts peak
Anu ba dapat imamatch ko sa wattage ng mixeramp ko dito?

Ung Visual SoundTech sa JB OK din ba ung quality nun?
tnx sa mga reply ng nakaraan mga bro
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2006, 12:56:31 PM »
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baka mamaya ung isa PMPO.
naku po!! ang saya nyan pag nagkataon.:) libo libong wattage. hehe
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2006, 01:37:18 PM »
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mga tol tumingin ako ng wharfdale speaker,
bakit nakalagay 400watts music/program?
kasi 400 watts ang nasukat nilang power nung gumamit sila ng program music na test signal para sa speaker.

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Bakit hindi 400RMS?
Kasi ang RMS power ay sinusukat pag continuous sine wave ang test signal para sa speaker.  

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Tapos may sinulat din ung store na
250watts continuous
Ang continuous power ay parang RMS power pero hindi sila pareho. Maaring pink noise ang ginamit na test signal para sa speaker.

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400watts music
Nasagot na natin ito.

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500 watts peak
Peak power naman ay ang sukat pag short term signal ang ginamit na test signal tulad ng drum rim shot para sa speaker.

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Anu ba dapat imamatch ko sa wattage ng mixeramp ko dito?
Ang recommended ay program or continuous program power.

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Ung Visual SoundTech sa JB OK din ba ung quality nun?
tnx sa mga reply ng nakaraan mga bro
Hindi kilala yan. Doon ka nalang sa sigurado.

Sana makatulong ito.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2006, 06:17:45 PM »
ok dude salamat sa mga infomalaking tulong to
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2006, 06:01:57 PM »
For me, I don't recommend Wharfedale.. Hindi ko gusto tunog, I've set up one in our church ang laki ng speaker pero hindi ko nagustuhan ang tunog. Siguro biased lang ako dahil ang dati kong gamit ay RAMSA by National (ito yung ginagamit nung rally ng edsa 3 ni erap sa mga kalsada).  Tapos binuksan ko pa ang loob ng Wharfedale, mas lalo akong nadis appoint. If you want a good speaker punta ka ng Audiophile pero napakamahal nga lang, may mga stores din sa Raon na makakakita ka ng magagandang speakers, may store dun ang behringer. Maganda din pala ang B3.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2006, 06:32:49 PM »
bro, anung brand ang rekomendado mo sa 13k budget?
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Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2006, 08:51:20 PM »
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For me, I don't recommend Wharfedale.. Hindi ko gusto tunog, I've set up one in our church ang laki ng speaker pero hindi ko nagustuhan ang tunog.

What is wrong with the sound in your church? Please let us know. Maybe we can help. Paborito ko pagusapan ang Sound System Design & Analysis lalo na sa simbahan at outdoor.

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Siguro biased lang ako dahil ang dati kong gamit ay RAMSA by National (ito yung ginagamit nung rally ng edsa 3 ni erap sa mga kalsada).

Kanya-kanya lang yan. Ang magandang tunog para sa akin ay maaring hindi maganda para sayo at ganon din ang kabaliktaran. As much as possible, umiiwas ako mamintas ng kahit anong brand ng mga audio equipment. Pero inaamin ko na mas pabor ako sa brand na kilala at tanggap na magaling sa buong mundo.

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Tapos binuksan ko pa ang loob ng Wharfedale, mas lalo akong nadis appoint.

Bakit, anong nakita mo?

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If you want a good speaker punta ka ng Audiophile pero napakamahal nga lang,

Hindi naman lahat. May mga good quality and affordable speakers din doon tulad ng GRF.
http://www.leilotto.com/Exhibit2/exhview.asp?pid=223



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may mga stores din sa Raon na makakakita ka ng magagandang speakers, may store dun ang behringer. Maganda din pala ang B3.

Marami nga sa Raon pero bago natin bilhin, dapat mag research muna sa specifications ng speakers para sa tamang aplikasyon. Hindi ko mahanap ang B3 kahit sa Google kaya kalimutin ko nalang yan.
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2006, 10:08:33 PM »
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dapat tingnan mo mabuti ang specs ng mixer amp mo.

200 watts stereo o mono? sa 8 o 4 ohms?

paki sagot nga para malinaw...
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2006, 12:26:39 PM »
200watts mono
tapos  use above 4ohms speaker ang nkalagay

San nkakabili ng GRF speakers? mas ok ba ito sa wharfdale pro?
magkano pala tong GRF speakers.
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