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Offline marko21

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« Reply #75 on: August 27, 2006, 09:49:28 PM »
wops ang mahal pala ng cork.. kaya styro na lang..
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Offline Akira JUMBO

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« Reply #76 on: September 02, 2006, 12:47:50 AM »
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yeah i saw those drum dials too... which again brings me to my next question... is it better to tune the drums tension wise rather than trying to tune it to a particular note?


one advantage of the drum dial is perfect replication of your previous setting..and ofcourse consisitent lug tuning. The drum dial measures timpanic pressure from each lug reference and thus producing precise equal drum pressure resulting to consistent tuning..

the key here is to set your preferred setting and take not of that..then you can work your way to better sounding tunes via small increments..

helps me a lot in tuning..although newbie parin ako sa drum set up still is a great ease for me  :wink:
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« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2006, 04:43:05 PM »
More often than not, we drummers are always more conscious and concerned how our snare and toms sound than the bass.

Which of your favorite artist's bass tone do you love best?

first and foremost, I began noticing how important my bass drum tone through..

1.  Tim Alexander of Primus

then, I also love

2.  Chad Smith's and Matt Cameron's

still,...Tim's bass tone is to die for.
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« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2006, 05:29:55 PM »
Triggered na ata yung kay Tim e, kasi ang liliit ng bass sizes na gamit niya.

Dalawa ang gusto kong bass sounds:
1. Punchy bass tone, tulad nung kay Neil Peart.
2. Boomy tone, tulad kay John Mendoza ng Urbandub at Sammy Siegler ng Glassjaw.
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« Reply #79 on: September 22, 2006, 05:30:10 PM »
kahit kanino basta solid.. ung dugdugdug talaga. ung parang rinig parin kahit natatabunan ng cymbals at gitara  :P  :D
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« Reply #80 on: September 22, 2006, 06:09:41 PM »
meron akong napakinggan na cd ng insan ko sa canada.
"fantastic planet" by the band failure....
napamura ako sa tunog ng drums..!
ang ganda!
dark and very punchy yung sound.
ayos yun!
di ko kilala yung drummer at walang nakalagay sa inlay nung cd.
and disbanded na sila!
sayang!
1996 pa ata yung cd na yun....
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Offline toybitz

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« Reply #81 on: September 22, 2006, 07:08:24 PM »
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Triggered na ata yung kay Tim e, kasi ang liliit ng bass sizes na gamit niya.

Dalawa ang gusto kong bass sounds:
1. Punchy bass tone, tulad nung kay Neil Peart.
2. Boomy tone, tulad kay John Mendoza ng Urbandub at Sammy Siegler ng Glassjaw.


Hi Gep, which album are you referring to?
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« Reply #82 on: September 22, 2006, 07:28:33 PM »
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Quote from: Gep
Triggered na ata yung kay Tim e, kasi ang liliit ng bass sizes na gamit niya.

Dalawa ang gusto kong bass sounds:
1. Punchy bass tone, tulad nung kay Neil Peart.
2. Boomy tone, tulad kay John Mendoza ng Urbandub at Sammy Siegler ng Glassjaw.


Hi Gep, which album are you referring to?


Neil Peart - 2112
John Mendoza - Embrace
Sammy Siegler - EYEWTKAS
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Offline marko21

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« Reply #83 on: September 22, 2006, 07:47:41 PM »
pano ba magproduce nung boomy sound?
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« Reply #84 on: September 22, 2006, 08:06:31 PM »
Ako naman WET tuning....

very low ang tune nya.

maganda sa flam..

low response.
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« Reply #85 on: September 22, 2006, 08:07:27 PM »
thanks

punchy ba ung ginagamit ng karamihan ng mga double-peds users?
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« Reply #86 on: September 22, 2006, 08:09:47 PM »
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thanks

punchy ba ung ginagamit ng karamihan ng mga double-peds users?


Punchy yung "cardboard box" sound na ginagamit ng mga 60's-70's drummers.

Yung boomy usually ang sa metal. Parang yun na rin ata ang wet sound e.

Pero safe answer: nasa sayo pa rin ang gusto mong tunog. :)
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« Reply #87 on: September 22, 2006, 08:12:51 PM »
oo ksi noon puro dry mga head ng mga old days eh...

try mo to.. ala lng may idea....

ung wet sound ko kc.. 6' hole sa reso.. very tight..

tapos sa batter head naman.. very loose.. as in.. alang nakapihit na tension lug... sounds dumb pero.. ok cya.. low respose... wet floppy sound pag accents sa bass drum
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« Reply #88 on: September 22, 2006, 08:15:34 PM »
Ah yun pala, kaya pala slow response.  :wink:
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« Reply #89 on: September 22, 2006, 08:17:47 PM »
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Ah yun pala, kaya pala slow response


oo slow din cya.. challenging yang tuning na yan sa mga DPED users... alang bounce effect... try it... its a pain in the ASS  :lol:
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« Reply #90 on: September 22, 2006, 10:50:57 PM »
:lol: try ko din to minsan...pinagaaralan ko pa yung tension sa batter side
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« Reply #91 on: September 22, 2006, 11:05:19 PM »
Just wondering, Does the beater affect the sound of the bass drum? if you use a wood beater would it sound "punchier" ?
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« Reply #92 on: September 22, 2006, 11:26:02 PM »
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Just wondering, Does the beater affect the sound of the bass drum? if you use a wood beater would it sound "punchier" ?


More responsive and louder. Kaya mas pipiliin ko ang plastic head kaysa sa felt e haha.
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« Reply #93 on: September 22, 2006, 11:33:09 PM »
share ko lang mga bro..

mei mga nririnig akong setup sa mga concerts, sa bass drumm yung tunog is like "tig" and others are like "dug".. hehehe..usually sa mga Mobile sounds, yung bassdrum ng drumset nila, puno halos ng unan! super dampening! dun achieved yung tunog na "tig".. halos wala nang nagrereso.. but i like punchy BDs that is still "woofing" a little!

cheers!!!
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« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2006, 03:03:37 AM »
ung mga ganun na 2nog sa WET tuning un kaso ibang batter head na yan
gamit ko kc pinstripe... it would sa mga thinner skins ng bass drum....

for me masyadong makapal ang pinstripe... it would be better pag .. mga emperor or ambassador ang gamitin para sa mga woof* sounds and tig accents...
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« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2006, 09:07:09 AM »
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tapos sa batter head naman.. very loose.. as in.. alang nakapihit na tension lug... sounds dumb pero.. ok cya.. low respose... wet floppy sound pag accents sa bass drum

pre bute hindi napupunit ung skin mo sa gilid.. ganyan din kasi ang set-up ko. eh 3 months pa lang ang pinstripe ko nasira na yung gilid ng skin dahil sa sobrang luwag...
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« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2006, 11:24:42 AM »
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pre bute hindi napupunit ung skin mo sa gilid.. ganyan din kasi ang set-up ko. eh 3 months pa lang ang pinstripe ko nasira na yung gilid ng skin dahil sa sobrang luwag...



HAh?!  :shock:

pano nangyari yun? 1 yr na ung pinstripe ko ah eversince ganun tuning ko.. baka naman may problema yang shell mo sir.. check mo lang
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« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2006, 12:49:35 PM »
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pre bute hindi napupunit ung skin mo sa gilid.. ganyan din kasi ang set-up ko. eh 3 months pa lang ang pinstripe ko nasira na yung gilid ng skin dahil sa sobrang luwag...



HAh?!  :shock:

pano nangyari yun? 1 yr na ung pinstripe ko ah eversince ganun tuning ko.. baka naman may problema yang shell mo sir.. check mo lang



O baka masyadong na-stress yung Pinstripe head mo.  Ilan ang lugs ng bass drum mo?
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« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2006, 03:12:12 PM »
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pre bute hindi napupunit ung skin mo sa gilid.. ganyan din kasi ang set-up ko. eh 3 months pa lang ang pinstripe ko nasira na yung gilid ng skin dahil sa sobrang luwag...



HAh?!  :shock:

pano nangyari yun? 1 yr na ung pinstripe ko ah eversince ganun tuning ko.. baka naman may problema yang shell mo sir.. check mo lang



O baka masyadong na-stress yung Pinstripe head mo.  Ilan ang lugs ng bass drum mo?

oo kasi diba pag masyado maluwang eh nalulukot yung skin sa gilid pag nag hit ka ng bass drum.. so yung nalulukot na yun napunit na.. so hinigpitan ko na.

6 ata ang lugs ko.
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« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2006, 06:37:22 PM »
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6 ata ang lugs ko.



Just as I thought.  Sorry to say, 6 lugs are too few for a modern kick drum.  Less lugs, less tension... Less support for the loose tuning.  There should be at least 8 for 22" kicks.  High-end models have 10.
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