Author Topic: bolt on vs set neck guitar (Read 3380 times)

zinitsi · « **on:** October 06, 2012, 12:15:49 AM »

ano ba advantages and disadvantages ng bolt on at set neck? i mean may specific na tunog na napproduce ba kapag bolt on ang guitar or set neck? any ideas kahit mga additional infos with regards to this! thanks!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2012, 12:20:22 AM »

Here you go.

Guitar Neck Construction

zinitsi · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2012, 12:23:17 AM »

Quote from: gunslinger13 on October 06, 2012, 12:20:22 AM

Here you go.

Guitar Neck Construction

ayun buti meron nito salamat sir!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2012, 12:23:58 AM »

Quote from: zinitsi on October 06, 2012, 12:23:17 AM

ayun buti meron nito salamat sir!

You're welcome.

stringman · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2012, 06:15:05 AM »

Sabi nga ng iba the additional sustain on the setneck is a myth. I read an article (can't seem to ind it) where a Luthier created 2 same guitars with different neck joints. The sustain and sound was just the same, he even tested the frequency on an oscilloscope.

The debate on on sustain started when the strat was compared againts a Les paul. The Les paul had more sustain. But of course both guitars cannot be compared. For bolt ons, the trick lies in the neck pocket itshould be as tight and as close as possible wood to wood.

dennis22opina · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2012, 08:38:08 AM »

the quality of the construction is all that matters..kahit set neck, bolt on or neck through pa yan. at least for me..

ToneChild · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2012, 09:44:32 AM »

Basta tight ang fit ng bolt on no problem sa sustain. Tsaka depende rin sa bridge. Mas matagal ang sustain ng fixed bridge kesa sa mga springloaded floating ones.

firemodel55 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2012, 10:24:11 AM »

Quote from: stringman on October 06, 2012, 06:15:05 AM

Sabi nga ng iba the additional sustain on the setneck is a myth. I read an article (can't seem to ind it) where a Luthier created 2 same guitars with different neck joints. The sustain and sound was just the same, he even tested the frequency on an oscilloscope.

The debate on on sustain started when the strat was compared againts a Les paul. The Les paul had more sustain. But of course both guitars cannot be compared. For bolt ons, the trick lies in the neck pocket itshould be as tight and as close as possible wood to wood.

Very true... But when comparing one guitar type from another, no bolt on guitars -- even the ones that are exceptional -- can rival the sustain of my gil yaron and baker firemodel#55 which of course are exceptional set necks.

jeo · « **Reply #8 on:** October 07, 2012, 02:28:32 PM »

The best bolt on is no match to the best set neck in sustain. Syempre if you compare a mediocre set neck to an outstanding bolt-on you you arrive at an unfair conclussion same with vice versa of it.

Al_Librero · « **Reply #9 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:23:35 AM »

Quote from: jeo on October 07, 2012, 02:28:32 PM

The best bolt on is no match to the best set neck in sustain. Syempre if you compare a mediocre set neck to an outstanding bolt-on you you arrive at an unfair conclussion same with vice versa of it.

I used to believe this. Now... I just don't know. All these best this and best that are theoretical. Has anyone actually seen the best, whatever that means? At the end of the day, what matters is what you can hold with your hands and play.

dextoi · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:52:20 AM »

http://www.musicplayers.com/reviews/guitars/2010/1010_ParkerDF524.php

I like how the construct this bolt-on neck...

boybangs · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2012, 11:58:15 AM »

Quote from: dextoi on October 08, 2012, 11:52:20 AM

I like how the construct this bolt-on neck...

Gunslinger · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2012, 12:46:19 PM »

Quote from: boybangs on October 08, 2012, 11:58:15 AM

I guess what he meant was he likes the construction of the bolt-on neck of the Parker. $:-\$

Bart · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2012, 01:34:58 PM »

Quote from: Al_Librero on October 08, 2012, 11:23:35 AM

All these best this and best that are theoretical. Has anyone actually seen the best, whatever that means?

A guitar crafted by Chuck Norris. There's only one in existence. I heard it was a bolt-on too.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2012, 01:49:16 PM »

Quote from: Bart on October 08, 2012, 01:34:58 PM

A guitar crafted by Chuck Norris. There's only one in existence. I hear it was a bolt-on too.

I would love to see that. Hehe.

stirfriedstrat · « **Reply #15 on:** October 08, 2012, 02:02:47 PM »

bolt on syempre, pwedeng baklasin ~ di matakaw space sa bagahe pag wala kang flight case.

jeo · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2012, 02:16:39 PM »

Quote from: Al_Librero on October 08, 2012, 11:23:35 AM

I used to believe this. Now... I just don't know. All these best this and best that are theoretical. Has anyone actually seen the best, whatever that means? At the end of the day, what matters is what you can hold with your hands and play.

Theoritical as it may seem but it remains a theory till its applied. Medjo mahirap nga if you dont know how to categorize what makes-up a fair to mediocre to the best. It will pretty much be limited to your personal subjectivity of exposure, knowledge and experience... and especially you should know the basis of your best that your looking for. The best will be the best till something better comes along. Minsan you let go what is better due to a lot of factors. Sabi nga ni Buzz...to infinity and beyond

inot1105 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2012, 02:38:30 PM »

Quote from: stringman on October 06, 2012, 06:15:05 AM

Sabi nga ng iba the additional sustain on the setneck is a myth. I read an article (can't seem to ind it) where a Luthier created 2 same guitars with different neck joints. The sustain and sound was just the same, he even tested the frequency on an oscilloscope.

The debate on on sustain started when the strat was compared againts a Les paul. The Les paul had more sustain. But of course both guitars cannot be compared. For bolt ons, the trick lies in the neck pocket itshould be as tight and as close as possible wood to wood.

... looks like its a myth after all.
i just thought for a long time that there were no differences between bolt-on & set neck or neck thru... i don't know, and i'm not sure... but all i know is a bolt-on is more practical, in case you need to change necks. Replacement necks for your already existing bolt-on would be easier to change.

thanks for this informative thread
br & God bless

pualux · « **Reply #18 on:** October 08, 2012, 03:41:33 PM »

I honestly can't find much of a sonic difference between bolt on and set necks, hindi lang siguro ako maarte. bolt on madali nga lang palitan.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #19 on:** October 08, 2012, 03:42:26 PM »

Quote from: pualux on October 08, 2012, 03:41:33 PM

I honestly can't find much of a sonic difference between bolt on and set necks, hindi lang siguro ako maarte. bolt on madali nga lang palitan.

And easier to repair.

boybangs · « **Reply #20 on:** October 08, 2012, 04:05:21 PM »

I just don't like how a Les Paul, or any other guitar that's supposed to have a set in neck, looks like with a bolt on neck with neck plate and all. A one bolt Greco LP is a different story though.

free2rock · « **Reply #21 on:** October 08, 2012, 04:26:55 PM »

Quote from: Bart on October 08, 2012, 01:34:58 PM

A guitar crafted by Chuck Norris. There's only one in existence. I hear it was a bolt-on too.

Da TONE....

Bart · « **Reply #22 on:** October 08, 2012, 04:33:25 PM »

Quote from: free2rock on October 08, 2012, 04:26:55 PM

Da TONE....

The bolt-on was bolted with a lightning bolt.

grasyaps · « **Reply #23 on:** October 08, 2012, 04:54:05 PM »

Quote from: firemodel55 on October 07, 2012, 10:24:11 AM

Very true... But when comparing one guitar type from another, no bolt on guitars -- even the ones that are exceptional -- can rival the sustain of my gil yaron and baker firemodel#55 which of course are exceptional set necks.

wouldnt be complete without one.

free2rock · « **Reply #24 on:** October 08, 2012, 04:54:52 PM »

Quote from: Bart on October 08, 2012, 04:33:25 PM

The bolt-on was bolted with a lightning bolt.

Pickup cavities routed with his teeth!

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Author Topic: bolt on vs set neck guitar (Read 3380 times)