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Offline jm the mute

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2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« on: October 17, 2014, 03:40:20 PM »
I was thinking of replacing one of my cab's speakers with something different (current setup is 2 vintage 30's)...

then naisip ko: why not just leave the other slot open...diba may ibang speaker cabinets na ganun?

anyone tried this? kamusta? :)
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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2014, 04:01:33 PM »
Baka mabawasan ang bass. Try it puede namang ibalik if not okay.

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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2014, 04:18:53 PM »
Ok yata yan if closed back yung cab, magiging "ported" kuno. More bass. Pero maybe, not the tight kind of bass. I dunno.  :wave:

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2014, 04:30:05 PM »
Ok yata yan if closed back yung cab, magiging "ported" kuno. More bass. Pero maybe, not the tight kind of bass. I dunno.  :wave:

yun nga eh. mine is closed back...will try it asap. kailangan ko lang uli figure out uli if series or parallel yung stock wiring ng cab ko para pwede ko ibalik hehe
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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2014, 04:48:08 PM »
yun nga eh. mine is closed back...will try it asap. kailangan ko lang uli figure out uli if series or parallel yung stock wiring ng cab ko para pwede ko ibalik hehe

Yeah and also check if the speaker impedance will be compatible pa din sa amp head kahit na tanggalin mo yung isa, and be sure you can return it kapag hindi okay ang isa lang, hehehe.
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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2014, 05:35:53 PM »
Pretty common practice. It's called 'detuned cabinet'

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 11:07:54 AM »
Yeah and also check if the speaker impedance will be compatible pa din sa amp head kahit na tanggalin mo yung isa, and be sure you can return it kapag hindi okay ang isa lang, hehehe.

impedance lang ba kailangan icheck sir?

I was wondering what the "30" in my vintage 30 means...30 watts ba yun?

my head is 50 watts. kakayanin kaya nung isang 30watt speaker ang 50 watt head?
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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 11:20:14 AM »
impedance lang ba kailangan icheck sir?

I was wondering what the "30" in my vintage 30 means...30 watts ba yun?

my head is 50 watts. kakayanin kaya nung isang 30watt speaker ang 50 watt head?

Vintage 30 is rated at 60 watts. It would be ok to use one V30 for your 50-watt head. :)

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 11:41:10 AM »
Vintage 30 is rated at 60 watts. It would be ok to use one V30 for your 50-watt head. :)

ah ayun. thanks. pwede. benta ko na isa kong v30 hehe...any takers?
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2014, 12:59:49 PM »
ah ayun. thanks. pwede. benta ko na isa kong v30 hehe...any takers?

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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2014, 01:14:27 PM »
Pretty common practice. It's called 'detuned cabinet'

+1. Some people like the sound, some don't. YMMV

Example: http://youtu.be/GY6P2wgACPA
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2014, 01:19:13 PM »
magkano yung speaker?
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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2014, 02:13:35 PM »
technical explanation:
a speaker box system has an overall damping factor known as qtc. in layman's terms, qtc is the "air cushion" or "spring" that dampens speaker movement. the less damping (smaller box) will result to emphasizing bass impact at the speaker's resonant frequency, but with less deep bass.  the more damping (larger box) will result to extended deep bass, but less bass impact.

so what does this mean to you? 
making a hole in a closed system will make the cabinet effectively larger, more damped, creating what is called an infinite baffle or freeair system... resulting into deeper bass response, but less punchy bass.  less impact more "ugong".  if you're a powerchord chug-chug kind of guy, you will not like this.  but if you play clean (jazz-etc) you may like this because the sound is deeper, and and bass notes sound more even (albeit weaker).

if i were you, if the speakers and cabinet are designed to be closed, i'd keep it closed.  the guitar's lowest note in standard tuning is ~80hz.  what you gain in deep bass below frequency is irrelevant. the only time it would be relevant is if you play in lower tuning, and you are willing to compromise impact in order to get ugong.

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Re: 2x12 cab. 1 speaker. other hole left open. anyone tried this?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2014, 08:48:50 AM »
I tried this on my 412...just put 2 scumback speakers in...overall sound was bigger...but kinda prone to feedback. It's controllable though...i just can't lug around a big box anymore so back to the 212 i went
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