PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)

[jake z]

You can post that here: talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=44198.950

[ghoulstats]

guys ma recommend nyo ba ang b8 pro ride 20"? mas ok ba cya compare sa mga starter cymbals?

[Riff_6603]

guys ma recommend nyo ba ang b8 pro ride 20"? mas ok ba cya compare sa mga starter cymbals?

yup. better compared to sonar, sbr, mcs, planet z, or even zbt's IMO. pero if you're looking at getting affordable b20's you could opt for staggs.

- before we get OT, if you're interested with staggs if ever, we could resume our conversation sa stagg thread instead. thanks!

[ghoulstats]

cge sir dun tayo im looking for a alternative and choose the best affordable cause im planning to buy next week

[gibsonsantiago]

baka merong nakakaalam kung saan maganda bumili ng Beater(s)?
tulad ng beater ng IC, or Pearl...   slug beater, or pearl Squad Beater .
kahit ano po.  pudpod na kasi yung beater ng IC ko.
 

[jdr1524]

AUDIOPHILE: TAMA beater
JB Music:PEARL and Gibraltar beater
Laser:Vater and Generic beater
LYRIC:DW beater
MUSIC SOURCE:Mapex beater 

[jake z]

TMS also has mapex, if you're looking for slug beaters, the drum shop has it.

[bulok]

anong store ba merong ddrums drum kit?

[tombitudio]

The topic says it all. Di ako makapagdecide. Help 

[inigo]

Given same specs, I'll take the average snare.

[tombitudio]

I've seen someone selling a sonor force 2007 2nd hand snare. Generally, I'm thinking if I should just buy 2nd hand snares and invest on high end evans or remo powerstroke heads as well as strainers.

Good idea ba yun? Ano suggestion niyo sir?

[Gep]

At P10,000?
Get a good second-hand all-maple snare drum.

[tombitudio]

Thanks for the advice! What brands of snare would you recommend? Taking into consideration the budget allotted for the accessories I also have to buy after.

[Gep]

The Classifieds is your friend.

Or if you can wait and add a little more cash, hintayin mo ang mga ito:

[tombitudio]

Yep! Umabot na nga ako hanggang page 51 hahaha.

Sweet mother of.. ang ganda niyan! 

Salamat uli sa payo!

[pmack]

I'll go with an average snare with high end heads and if may extra pa, high end snare wires na rin.

i can vouch for the PDP all maple snare Gep posted.
I have been using mine for 5-6 years.
just put good heads on it (the stock heads are durable though).
Just have a spare wood hoop kung madalas mo ipang-praktis or gig.

[jckazs]

I don't think mahihirapan ka maghanap ng ok na snare worth p10k. I've seen gretsch renowns sold for 10k sa classifieds. Meron din mga black panther snares na under 10k. These examples may be on the cheap side price wise but are by no means inferior to snare drums that cost twice as much. You also might want to check out this vintage pearl snare: http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=272313.0

Not sure what it is really worth pero based sa description, 8 ply maple, die cast hoops, parallel strainer, mukang maganda yung snare

[puck]

Good day!

May tanong po ako. Tama Iron Cobra Power Glide yung gamit ko na double pedal ngayon at yung connecting rod na gamit ko ay sa Pearl eliminator kasi 2nd hand bili ko sa IC tas kulang ang screws. Kasya na man po sya. Universal fit ba yung connecting rods? Baka ma damage toh in the long run. Thanks po.

[ermonski]

magkano ang Yamaha DD65 nowadays and where can I get one?

or is there a better tabletop electronic drum kit out in the market nowadays?

just for home recording and practice. thanks!

[ken minneman]

Pare, alam mo yung mag sisingle stroke ka tapos alam mo yung tunog ng Left sa Right..

tapos pag nagdouble stroke ka alam mo rin yung pinagkaiba.. Pati yung pag nag switch ka from single stroke to doubles.. alam mo yung pinagkaiba.. Kahit subukan mo pang pagpantayin..

Ewan ko kung tenga ko lang ba yun? o normal ba yun??


May, device ba..

Gaya ng:

Drum-o Meter- na bibilangin yung stroke mo per minute..
Metronome- Na tutulungan ka ayusin yung tempo mo..
Drum Dial- Na sasabihin sayo kung pantay yung Tension ng pagkakapihit mo sa Lug

So may device ba? na magsasabi sayo kung gano kalakas yung hataw mo or yung dynamics mo para masabi mong pantay nga??

O Kahit exercises na lang..

[straightwire]

nilalagyan ba ng sleeve ang hi-hat un kasing hi-hat clutch ko wala sleeve di naman kasya ung sleeve na pang regular cymbals sa diameter ng clutch

[Riff_6603]

nilalagyan ba ng sleeve ang hi-hat un kasing hi-hat clutch ko wala sleeve di naman kasya ung sleeve na pang regular cymbals sa diameter ng clutch

nope. usually ang may sleeves (either felt or rubber) ay ang mismong clutch. yung sa mismong top hat no need na.

[Riff_6603]

Pare, alam mo yung mag sisingle stroke ka tapos alam mo yung tunog ng Left sa Right..

tapos pag nagdouble stroke ka alam mo rin yung pinagkaiba.. Pati yung pag nag switch ka from single stroke to doubles.. alam mo yung pinagkaiba.. Kahit subukan mo pang pagpantayin..

Ewan ko kung tenga ko lang ba yun? o normal ba yun??

last week mo pa iniisip yan ah? haha!

generally speaking, yan ang tinatawag na "feel" or "musical intuition". hindi yan inborn; as one skill's progresses, subliminally, one would know the difference no matter how minute it is.

mas mahirap kapag ultimo yung anacrusis sa palo mo ramdam mo. seryosong sakit na OC na tawag dyan.

May, device ba..

Gaya ng:

Drum-o Meter- na bibilangin yung stroke mo per minute..
Metronome- Na tutulungan ka ayusin yung tempo mo..
Drum Dial- Na sasabihin sayo kung pantay yung Tension ng pagkakapihit mo sa Lug

So may device ba? na magsasabi sayo kung gano kalakas yung hataw mo or yung dynamics mo para masabi mong pantay nga??

O Kahit exercises na lang..

yes there is. it's called the "Beatnik Rhythmic Analyzer".

The Beatnik Rhythmic Analyzer helps increase accuracy and feel in ways never before possible. Each one of Beatnik's multiple analyzers evaluates a unique aspect of your timing and rhythmic skills. Multiple views of the timing data instantly reveal technical strengths and weaknesses to help you instantly analyze your technical precision and speed up your progress toward total rhythmic fluency and accuracy.

After you set the desired rhythm on the built-in metronome, simply start the playback and strike the touch-sensitive practice pad. Beatnik's large graphic display shows a visual representation of every stroke in real time and records every stroke in a viewable archive, with pinpoint accuracy to the nearest 512th note where your strokes occurred in relation to the actual beat.

For evaluating and improving your rhythm and timing performance, nothing compares to the Beatnik!

Multiple built-in accuracy analyzers each measure different aspects of your rhythmic and timing accuracy.

Multiple views of stroke timing data instantly reveal insight into your dynamics, rhythm, and timing control.

Records and displays stroke history for reviewing summaries of your stroke timing data.

Tracking analyzer helps you improve transitions between changing subdivisions while maintaining consistent rhythm and correct timing. You can switch freely between any subdivision and Beatnik tracks your playing, displaying the timing and score in realtime and recording everything for a summary review when you can examine the timing history of each subdivision.

A phrase analyzer helps you improve performance accuracy of complicated and extended rhythmic phrases. You can set a rhythmic phrase up to 8 beats in length, incorporating any combination of note and rests. Records every stroke so you can review the phrase performance history note by note.

The internal metronome is one of the world's most advanced metronomes ever. It can test you on any permutation for every note value from quarter to thirty-second notes. Note values include: quarter note; eighth note; eighth note triplets; sixteenth notes; 5 over 1; sixteenth note triplets; 7 over 1; thirty-second notes.

Select between four skill levels to allow a wider tolerance for timing accuracy and scoring as follows: expert: within one 512th note; high: within three 512th notes; medium: within five 512th notes; low: within seven 512th notes.

Tap tempo sets the tempo based on strokes, allowing you to manually start a practice session later.
Tap start uses count-off beats to set the tempo and automatically start a practice session on the fly.

but as always, there are negative reviews so always take the info you could google with a grain of salt:

Supposedly RA1200p is able to show the dynamics of your sticking (how hard you hit) by drawing the solid lines with different heights. However I found it is not very consistent. It's still useful to some degree though, as it did show my left hand tended to be weaker than my right hand. I also got false triggers once in a while. (In practice, it didn't happen often enough to affect my practice at all. But I think I mention it anyway.) Another thing that annoys me is I couldn't find a way to get it to remember the volume and the pad sensitivity I set. Maybe it is just me not knowing what I was doing. But I did read through the manual a couple of times...

[harugrugrug]

exercise yan bro na pantayin ang singles from doubles.. pero singles could never be doubles and doubles could never be as loud as singles.. so OC ka lang.. joke.. it's more of a technical thing na ipantay mo lang stick height mo e pantay na tunog.. pero sometimes hindi yun totoo so listen tol... magpad ka pero pakinggan mo din sa snare kung pantay yung tunog and kung may critique ka to 2nd the motion ng strokes mo e the better.. hehe..  magbasa ka ng stick control na book.. kung gusto mo magpaka OC dyan tapos accents and rebounds  sunod mo,hehe.. even you are not a note reader kaya mo mabasa yun... it's basically sticking to the WTF degree..hehe.. goodluck

[ken minneman]

Salamat po mga sirs.. U always are helpful... Never the less, I think I found what I was looking for with BeatNik..

San meron nito? kung di ako nagkakamali, sa JB?