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« Reply #375 on: August 12, 2013, 06:30:51 PM »
mga sir, ano ba talgang bus sasakyan pa mt. ugo at saan bababa? salamat.

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« Reply #376 on: August 12, 2013, 11:15:36 PM »
Victory Liner Tuguegarrao. sa aritao baba sir

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« Reply #377 on: August 13, 2013, 08:24:30 AM »
ang saya ng mga pics sa pulag!  :-D

miss ko na tuloy mag pulag.
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« Reply #378 on: August 13, 2013, 12:17:22 PM »
Victory Liner Tuguegarrao. sa aritao baba sir

tapos may byaheng papunta ng kayapa dun sa aritao may mini-bus at jeep  :)

nga pala sir magpabook kayo ng maaga sa victory liner kasi uwian ng mga estudyante yun siguradong punuan  :) nakausap ko din pala si liza alam na din nila na darating kayo (kahit na hindi ko nabangit yung pangalan ng grupo nyo at kung ilan kayo) pati si caezar nakausap ko narin sya at willing syang mag guide sa inyo so kung kailangan mo pa ng additional na tulong text or tawagan mo si caezar although pagdating nyo sa jump off madami na kayong makukuhang guide at porter dun
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« Reply #379 on: August 13, 2013, 12:47:56 PM »
from PINOY MOUINTAINEER page

about the missing tarak climber




Relayed from Bryan Ronquillo, from Doki Natividad about the missing hikers in Tarak:

 1. We were able to talk to sir TEDES.. the Brgy. Chief investigator ng Brgy. Alas-Asin Mariveles Bataan.. (mt. Tarak ridge Jump off registration point).. the ff info came from him.

 2. 9Subjects (7male, 2 female) climbed last saturday. Sunday ng gabi ay nagtext na ng distress sa barangay thru friend ng mountaineers. "Andito Kami halos sa tuktok ng pang apat na bundok mula sa mt.tarak. pang apat na ilog po."
 this text was sent 7:59am today.

 3. Yesterday ay nag deploy na ng sar team ang brgy headed by brgy capt along with military and pnp but umuwi rin sa CP nung ginabi na.

 4. Today, nagdeploy ulit ng team ang brgy with PNP and military.. but as of their 9am update nasa "Ariong" palang sina kap, ZERO Visibility na.

 5. The mountaineers daw ay baka nawala during the descent at posible na dumaan sa "PANIKIAN".. detour un na papunta sa falls.

 6. The subjetc are headed by a certain Michael Reyes(TL nila).. the team's composition is frm cavite, laguna, makati.


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good news ---> nakita na sila at pababa na
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« Reply #380 on: August 13, 2013, 08:53:01 PM »
mabuti nakita na sila! :)

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« Reply #381 on: August 13, 2013, 10:00:53 PM »
tapos may byaheng papunta ng kayapa dun sa aritao may mini-bus at jeep  :)

nga pala sir magpabook kayo ng maaga sa victory liner kasi uwian ng mga estudyante yun siguradong punuan  :) nakausap ko din pala si liza alam na din nila na darating kayo (kahit na hindi ko nabangit yung pangalan ng grupo nyo at kung ilan kayo) pati si caezar nakausap ko narin sya at willing syang mag guide sa inyo so kung kailangan mo pa ng additional na tulong text or tawagan mo si caezar although pagdating nyo sa jump off madami na kayong makukuhang guide at porter dun

sir ayus ngang kausap si ms. liza. regarding sa porter ang guide, ipinasa niya kame kay alex silang. medyo namamahalan ako sa guide at porter, bale 400 pesos kada araw. eh need namin isang porter at isang guide, so 1,600 na kaagad para sa 2 days lang.  kung dun po ba kame maghahagilap ng guide at porter mas makakamura kame? thanks

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« Reply #382 on: August 13, 2013, 10:16:00 PM »
Mga sir at maam,san po pwede makabili o makapagpagawa ng pole ng tent bukod sa trek quirino? Yung mura mura lang din sana  :-D

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« Reply #383 on: August 14, 2013, 06:26:56 AM »
sir ayus ngang kausap si ms. liza. regarding sa porter ang guide, ipinasa niya kame kay alex silang. medyo namamahalan ako sa guide at porter, bale 400 pesos kada araw. eh need namin isang porter at isang guide, so 1,600 na kaagad para sa 2 days lang.  kung dun po ba kame maghahagilap ng guide at porter mas makakamura kame? thanks

unfortunately sir standard rate ng guide at porter yan sa mt ugo sir  :-(
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« Reply #384 on: August 14, 2013, 08:36:40 AM »
Mga sir at maam,san po pwede makabili o makapagpagawa ng pole ng tent bukod sa trek quirino? Yung mura mura lang din sana  :-D

kami sir dati sa conquer shop sa Caloocan, kaya lang binili pala yun hehehe di pinagawa
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« Reply #385 on: August 14, 2013, 10:25:42 PM »
unfortunately sir standard rate ng guide at porter yan sa mt ugo sir  :-(

sir papareserve tlaga kame papunta tuguegarao pero wala pa para pauwi galing baguio.  medyo mababagal kasama ko, may mga babae din kasi. ano kayang schedule pinaka safe na reservation pauwi pabalik ng manila sa victory liner baguio? ano kayang pinaka safe time dating namin ng baguio? thanks sa mga tulong mga sir.

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« Reply #386 on: August 15, 2013, 08:50:44 AM »
kami ussually chance passenger s lang kami sa victory liner,not unless weekend or holiday season wala ka talaga masasakyan pa-manila na bus.we never reserve a ticket back to manila kasi unprdictable ang oras at mga pangyayari sa bundok.hehe.  :-D

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« Reply #387 on: August 15, 2013, 11:06:39 PM »
kami sir dati sa conquer shop sa Caloocan, kaya lang binili pala yun hehehe di pinagawa

magkano per piece sir? Natatandaan nyo pa? Thanks :)

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« Reply #388 on: August 16, 2013, 12:53:42 PM »
sir papareserve tlaga kame papunta tuguegarao pero wala pa para pauwi galing baguio.  medyo mababagal kasama ko, may mga babae din kasi. ano kayang schedule pinaka safe na reservation pauwi pabalik ng manila sa victory liner baguio? ano kayang pinaka safe time dating namin ng baguio? thanks sa mga tulong mga sir.

every hour on the hour naman ang byahe ng victory liner pabalik ng manila sir so di naman siguro kayo mahihirapan makasakay.

be safe sa climb sir at enjoy nalang... paalala lang sir relaxed walk nasa 3 oras mula domolpos hangang summit 4 na oras ang lakad mula summit hangang lusod at 3 oras naman mula lusod hangang sa barangay anawang (exit ng mt ugo) 2nd day talaga ang may pinaka mahabang lakaran kung 2 days ang plano nyo and maganda dyan puro pababa na yan mula summit so para hindi kayo gabihin sa daan maganda kung aalis kayo sa domolpos ng 6am lalo na kung may kasama kayong mabagal mag lakad  :)
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« Reply #389 on: August 16, 2013, 03:22:18 PM »
Maculotski Aug 9-10,2013  :-D









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« Reply #390 on: August 16, 2013, 03:26:02 PM »
^  ganda sa maculot pag makulimlim sarap tumambay sa rockies
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« Reply #391 on: August 20, 2013, 02:44:00 PM »
kumusta kaya sila wiccan8888? natuloy kaya climb nila?
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« Reply #392 on: August 20, 2013, 02:55:22 PM »
kumusta kaya sila wiccan8888? natuloy kaya climb nila?

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« Reply #393 on: August 24, 2013, 08:21:40 AM »
Organizing a Climb (dahonpalaymountaineers)

 INTRODUCTION

 Mountaineering is one sport that one can enjoy either with a team, a group of friends, with a partner or even by his lonesome. It is good to experience each one of them once in a while but before one should venture out into the wilderness on his own, it is advised that he first join an organized climb and learn the basic mountaineering skills for his safety and enjoyment. It is advisable for an individual to join some mountaineering group where he could learn and experience the basics extensively through the courses they offer. Just be sure that the organization one will join offers such services.

 This chapter deals with the details of organizing a climb. Although most mountaineers love the idea of freedom and spontaneity than rules and organization, these structures were meant for the climber’s safety and the protection of the environment at the same time thus it’s importance never undermined.

 The organizer should have mastered the basic skills at the minimum and have a good record of experiences before he leads a group. This is due to the fact that still, mountaineering has dangerous aspects.

 PLANNING A CLIMB

 In planning a climb here are points to consider:
•Decide where to go.
•Choose your companion or target participants.
•Collect route information and other useful information on the destination considered. It is advisable to contact any LGUs or local mountaineering group to get current information on the status of the trails, costs, permits, etc.
•Assess the physical fitness of the group.
•Arrange for food and equipment distribution.
•Check weather forecast.
•Acquire permits in advance if necessary.
•Assign climb officials.
•Conduct pre-climb meeting or briefings.

 CLIMB COMPOSITION

 Although there are no rules on the number of person to join an expedition, three is the suggested least number of people in an expedition. This is because if an emergency occurs, one can accompany the victim while the other goes out for help considering the injured is only one of the participants; or even two if one has only minor injuries. With regards with the number of maximum participants, these should depend on the carrying capacity of the place although no such studies still exist in the Philippines as of this date. Too many climbers make the team slow and stressful to the environment. Eight is the ideal number based on the principles of a military squad.

 As a practice here in the Philippines, here is a list of basic climb officials and their duties and responsibilities.
•Team Leader
•Lead man (trailblazer, lead packer)
•Sweeper (tail ender)
•First- aiders

 TEAM LEADER
 1.The team leader is the final authority during the climb, and all participants are expected to support and comply with his decisions. Any negative evaluation of his conduct of the climb should be brought out during the post-climb meeting. However, the team leader is expected to consult with the participants before making major decisions that affect the itinerary or conduct of the climb.
 2.He is expected to exercise good judgement and to consider safety, comfort and fun.
 3.The team leader assigned for any climb preferably must have had prior climb experience on the same route unless it is an expedition climb, or when a local guide is available. In any event general familiarity with the route is required.
 4.Duties of the team leader :

 Preparatory activities
•Consult those who are familiar with the terrain and locality particularly the security situation, trail conditions, campsite limitations and travel restrictions.
•Conduct a survey of the route when possible or when advisable.
•Prepare the climb itinerary.
•Conduct physical diagnostics.

 Pre-climb
•Objective of the climb based on its nature (initiation, fun, training, induction or expedition)
•General information, historical significance, folklore, etc. of the location of the climb.
•Itinerary and highlights of the climb.
•Route condition and trail hazards.
•Water sources and its condition.
•Main and alternative campsites.
•General weather conditions.
•Local weather conditions or peculiarities.
•Cultural peculiarities of the locale (beliefs, taboos, etc.)
•Contact persons in the locality and residence.
•Special medical precautions on malaria, typhoid, dengue, etc.
•Purchase opportunities in the locale.
•Special equipment checklist and assignments (for overall group equipment such as ropes, harness, etc.)
•Transportation arrangements.
•Budget.
•Review of ethics, policies and Basic Mountaineering Course when necessary.
•Assignments of groupings and climb officers. (it is important to remind all the participants of the functions, responsibilities and authorities of these key climb officers)
•Review of the itinerary. (It is best to distribute copies of the itinerary to all participants. If copies are unavailable, remind them to copy the itinerary as presented)

 Pre-departure
•In case of any pre-departure change in itinerary or plans, the team leader shall immediately notify all participants. At the pre-departure assembly point, the team leader shall ensure that all present have actually complied with all mandatory requirements that apply to them and shall require compliance with those that are not yet complied with.
•The team leader must prepare a list of participants before departure. It shall be the basis for periodic head counts and allocation of common expenses. If possible, a copy of the list should be left with a contact person at the point of departure in the event that a rescue becomes necessary.

 Climb Proper
•Before the start of the trek and at every major rest stop. Check the head count and general physical conditions of all participants.
•As needed, consult with the other climb officers or participants any need to modify the itinerary due to weather, injury, unforeseen trail hazards, etc. After consultation, make the decision and notify all the participants.
•Control the overall pacing of the climb so as not to unduly delay the trek without sacrificing safety of any participant.
•Check that proper trail signs are installed at critical places like forks and trail splits.
•At the campsite, ensure that camp protocol and proper practices are observed as well as compliance with organization ethics, rules and regulations.
•Observe the conduct and comfort of participants.
•Observe and monitor performance of climb officers.
•Ensure that the campsite is left clean before taking off.
•Establish/maintain contact with local community leaders and dwellers along the trail but more particularly at or near campsites.

 Emergency Situation
•In case of any situation requiring extreme deviation from the climb schedule, the team leader shall, in so far as practicable, consult with the participants. In any event, the team leader must make the final decision taking overall and individual safety into consideration.
•In case of incapacitating injury to any member of the party, the team leader must call-off the climb. Steps must be taken to protect and care for the victim/s. If a provisional camp is established to stabilize the victim, a team of at least 2 experienced climbers must be sent ahead to alert the base camp and contact rescue authorities as well as the contact person of the victim. The team leader may allow other members of the party to proceed down while ensuring that experienced and strong climbers are left to attend to the injured member/s until a rescue party reaches them. At all times, the team leader must maintain composure and keep all members calm but alert.
•In case of prolonged lack of contact with tail-enders, the team leader must make the decision on whether or not to send a search party to backtrack and assist the tail- enders as needed. In this case, strong and experienced climbers must be sent while the main body set up a temporary holding camp as needed. The leadsman should be notified to either hold their position or rejoin the main body.

 Post Climb Briefing
•As soon as possible, preferably within a week after the completion of the climb, the team leader shall take up the following:
 1.Review and assessment of the climb: general conduct, trail, pointers for subsequent climbs, etc.
 2.Comments, admonitions, congratulations regarding conduct of individual participants.

 LEADMAN
•As much as possible, the assigned leadman should not be team leaders themselves. Exceptions can be made in cases of small groups (12 or less) which are not likely to get separated, climb of short duration, or absence of qualified members.
•He must have prior experience on the particular trail unless accompanied by local guides.
•He should be selected among the stronger, healthier, experienced and patient members of the party. For a large climbing party or a long duration climb, more than one should be assigned.
•He has the duty to put in place the proper trail markers for the guidance of the following groups. When in doubt, or when the possibility of doubt exists, the trail must be marked in such a manner that no confusion could arise in its interpretation.
•He must stop and wait for re-assembly at designated major rest stops, and they must remain within whistle-hearing distance of the next group at all times.
•He should not deviate from the planned route without waiting for the team leader’s decision.
•He shall implement the pacing as instructed by the Team Leader.

 SWEEPERS
•As much as possible, the assigned sweepers should not be team leaders themselves. Exceptions may be made in cases of small parties , (12 or less) which are not likely to get separated; climbs of short duration; or absence of qualified members.
•They must have prior experience on the particular trail unless accompanied by a local guide.
•They must be self-contained as completely as practicable.
•The sweepers must be selected from among the stronger, healthier, experienced and patient members of the party. For a large climbing party or a long duration climb, more than two must be assigned.
•The sweeper must remain at the tail-end of the climbing party at all times.He must be ready to assist lagging climber/s who may need assistance, and must maintain the pace, and control the rest stops of the lagging participants, taking into consideration their physical situations, safety needs, and the climb schedule.
•In case of incapacitating injury or illness, or danger brought about by unexpected weather, darkness or natural occurrence, the sweeper may decide to set-up a temporary camp at his direction. Other members of the group, who are capable of going on, must be sent ahead to notify the team leader of the actions taken, so that the latter may make the necessary decisions. Again, safety is first considered.
•One of the sweepers must be assigned to remove trail markers put up by the lead group.

 FIRST AIDER
•Expedition first-aiders should preferably be chosen from among those who had proper training under the auspices of the Philippine National Red Cross, or had professional medical training. In this connection, the organization shall endeavor to maintain a pool of trained members.
•At least one should be assigned per climb. For large parties, more than one should be designated. If more than one is assigned they should be distributed over more than one team.
•In the event of an injury, the first aider shall have the responsibility for applying the necessary aid, prescribing medication, and recommending corrective action or assistance. If necessary to deviate from the itinerary, he shall make his recommendation known to the team leader for the lather’s decision. In the presence of a designated first-aider, no other member shall intervene with the treatment of a victim unless he/she is requested by the first aider to assist.
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« Reply #394 on: August 27, 2013, 08:44:32 AM »
may official na bang philmusic mountaineering group?  :-D
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« Reply #395 on: August 27, 2013, 08:49:06 AM »
may official na bang philmusic mountaineering group?  :-D

meron na chief! naka sticky  :-D
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« Reply #396 on: August 27, 2013, 08:50:08 AM »
may official na bang philmusic mountaineering group?  :-D

yep!

The Official Philmusic Mountaineering Group
http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=283382.0

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« Reply #397 on: August 27, 2013, 03:08:20 PM »
yep!

The Official Philmusic Mountaineering Group
http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=283382.0

+ a FB Group Page add sonnygonz30@gmail.com i'll add you up!  :-D

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« Reply #398 on: September 07, 2013, 04:30:34 PM »
hindi po kame tumuloy ng ugo,nung nalaman po namin na may LPA nagcancel na po agad kami.

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« Reply #399 on: September 16, 2013, 07:12:27 AM »
desperado na yata ako.... umakyat ako sa baguio at dahil hindi ako maka climb ng husto dahil sa kulang sa oras, naglakad ako sa loakan road at nung malapit na ako sa john hay bumaba ako sa may bangin.. naghanap ng medyo patag na lugar, nag setup ng tarp dahil umuulan at nag init ng tubig para sa kape...
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