ilang amp po amg kadalasan gamit nyo sa isang party gig?

[dualcoil]

 

 :-)good day mga sir. ilang amp po ba ang gamit nyo sa isang gig kapag 550watts per channel, 2 ba or more?
at ilan ang speaker n kinakabit nyo for each amps? may reserved ba kayo na amp incase for emergency?

sa ngayon 1 amp palang gamit ko. and 2speakers..
balak ko dagdagan speakers ko ng dalawa pa. kasi 550x2 per channel wattage ng amp ko at kulang pa yung speaker ko, as in kaya nyang sunugin. 300 watts naman ang speaker ko pair.. kaya lang baka mag bago ang tunog ng speakers?

dapat ba kabitan ko pa ng speaker or bumili pa ulit ako ng amp pra sa dalawa pang speakers?

[Tarkuz Toccata]

Kulang sa data. Paki post ng complete technical specifications ng speaker at amp mo.

[dualcoil]

Kulang sa data. Paki post ng complete technical specifications ng speaker at amp mo.

ok, i have only a address amp,

Magnum Amplifier, Consert king series, 550x2 watts per channel, 8ohms
5.1 soround pero i only use the left and right output..

My speaker is Crown 300watts 8ohms 15" single magnet. instrumental speaker.
pair po sya with a assemble buffles, mid earthquake..

[Peter North]

Please don't get me wrong but the amp that you are using is basically for home theater use only. You may hear it loud primarily because you always play it inside your house or your room. Try playing outside your house and stacking you cabs 1/2 space. there would be a huge difference. AFAIK, in party gigs/music playbacks or concerts kadalasan stereo configuration. 5.1 or higher configuration usually sa cinemas nagagamit yan. If you are really serious about sound reinforcement, you will need a real power, and by power i mean you must have power amps. At least man lang naka bi-amp ka. Your lows are being driven by a separate Amp. I suggest that you buy a power amp muna to power your lows then use your existing to drive your mid and high. Oh don't forget your electronic crossover. Ito ang pinakamahalaga sa iyong adhikain.

just my 2 cents, hope it will help you... 

[Tarkuz Toccata]

Magnum Amplifier, Consert king series, 550x2 watts per channel, 8ohms
5.1 soround pero i only use the left and right output..

My speaker is Crown 300watts 8ohms 15" single magnet. instrumental speaker.
pair po sya with a assemble buffles, mid earthquake..

Suggestion ko, professional power amp ang gamitin sa speakers mo.

Saan ba kadalasan ginagawa ang party gig, sa indoor o outdoor?

Kung indoor, ano ang seating capacity at dimensions (length, width & height) ng kwarto?

Kung outdoor, ano ang seating capacity ng venue at ang audience area (length & width)?

Di bale kahit hindi eksakto, pwede natin ayusin kung kailangan.

[dualcoil]

Please don't get me wrong but the amp that you are using is basically for home theater use only. You may hear it loud primarily because you always play it inside your house or your room. Try playing outside your house and stacking you cabs 1/2 space. there would be a huge difference. AFAIK, in party gigs/music playbacks or concerts kadalasan stereo configuration. 5.1 or higher configuration usually sa cinemas nagagamit yan. If you are really serious about sound reinforcement, you will need a real power, and by power i mean you must have power amps. At least man lang naka bi-amp ka. Your lows are being driven by a separate Amp. I suggest that you buy a power amp muna to power your lows then use your existing to drive your mid and high. Oh don't forget your electronic crossover. Ito ang pinakamahalaga sa iyong adhikain.

just my 2 cents, hope it will help you... 

mga sir.. thanks sa mga comment. pero nag kakamali po kayo kung ang AMp na address or 5.1 soround sound with a 550watts direct left and right channels  is pwde pang indoor lang.. as you ask.. gus2 mo i-try ko for outdoor young amp..

sir subok ko na po e2 for an address party ang amp. at talagang malakas. basically ang pang indoor lang po na mga amps. is hindi lalagpas ng 200watts per channel. if kung pang indoor po e2ng amp ko. na 550watts per channel.. eh halos magiba ang bahay namin sa sobrang lakas. so at nag kakalampagad ang bubong namin. its true becouse ako ang may ari ng amp. at tutuo po na malakas talaga ang amp. wala po nakalagay na home theater or para sa home theater po sya.. the amp has a 5.1 soround sound channels.. pero yun lang po ang capability nya for speakers.. if my soround speaker and center speaker ka na ikakabit. but the direct left and right. sobrang lakas po ng output. and i suggest na pwde po talga gamitin sa pang outdoor ang amp. kaya nya po sirain ang 300watts kagaya ng nabanggit ko. half plang po ang volume ko.. e2 ang settings

half volume of output..
bass at 1oclock
mid   at 8oclock
and high at 2oclock

yan palang ang settings ko sa amp at sobrang lakas na po. so this amp is not for indoor only but also for outdoor.

let me clear lang mga sir.. nag katalo lang po sila sa istura pero the amount of power and transister ng power amp sa address amp is the same..basta same din ang output wattage and ratings nya.. maganda lang sa power amp is yung itsura nya talagang pang professional.. kaya nga gus2 ko rin bumili ng power amp talga.  and for the cross over. gagana lang e2 kung meron kang amp bawat output.. that is for center. sub woofer.. high mid and low.. at kadalasan sa band concert ginagamit e2. as a new dj for my simple mobile.. i only preffer a 2 amps at yung speaker ko is for mid and low na.. and naka series na yung driver or tweeter.. saakin lang. sa mga mobile gig..

pero satingin ko nasagot monarin naman ang tanong kung walang kwenta hehe sori for this thread ha..

[dualcoil]

Suggestion ko, professional power amp ang gamitin sa speakers mo.

Saan ba kadalasan ginagawa ang party gig, sa indoor o outdoor?

Kung indoor, ano ang seating capacity at dimensions (length, width & height) ng kwarto?

Kung outdoor, ano ang seating capacity ng venue at ang audience area (length & width)?

Di bale kahit hindi eksakto, pwede natin ayusin kung kailangan.

for your case sir.. hindi po problema ang space at kung ilan ang tao na dadalo.. it is the amount of speaker loudness and how many speaker it would be..

let say sa isang gym.. subok na natin ang 2 speaker 300watts per channel pair with a 2 pair of supper horn tweeters or compressor drivers..

kaya po nyan. at basically kung malaki ang buffles. mas uugong ng malayo ang base ng speakers.. pero ang usapan lang d2 is kung wala masyadong audience.. kung masyadong marami tao.. tyak kukulangin ang 2 speakers mo.. so i suggest na add some speaker about 4 or more.. walang problema busta kaya ng amp. and the quality of sound stays thier,

any way thanks for the comments..


550x2 watts per channel po yung output ng amp ko. if any body dont know. yung x2 po.. yun po eh may A, and B, speaker selector.. so meron syang selecting na A channel.. b channel or Aand B channel..

if my woofer is hindi nya kaya yung amp ko.. pero ok naman yung tunog,. at balak kung mag add ng speakers. as series. i soppost 2 more 300watts speakers.. satingin nyo kakayanin paba ng amp na 550watts or hindi nya na kaya at bibigay lang ang amp..? o mag babago na ang tunog? buy its ok maybe i should spend money for this and get another amp.. sory for this thread ok..

and remind ko lang din po ulit.. yung address amp and a Power amp.. magkaiba lang po sila sa itsura aslong na parehas sila malakas at umaabot sa 500watts up and output nila.. and the ohms

dont tell me kayang talunin ng power amp na may 250watts per channel ang isang address amp lang na may 550watts per channel.. but they have same amount of ohms.. and kaya po natin tinawag na address amp yung amplifier.. becouse component style ang itsura nya.. and kadalasan ang component sa bahay diba.. while the power amp is rocked mount po sya.. at mas malaki. so we only discribe the image of a amp. address or power amp but not its output.. hope this help too to others. thanks..

[Tarkuz Toccata]

Okey, alamin natin ang power rating ng amp mo sa 4 ohms load at 2 ohms load. Ilan watts per channel sa 4 ohms? Ilan watts sa 2 ohms? Kung hindi nakalagay sa technical specifications, malamang hindi kaya mag 4-ohm load at delikado ang binabalak mong gawin na mag 2-per-side. Mas lalo na pag 2-ohms or 4-per-side. Pwede gawin kung gusto mo, pero delikado...

By the way, paki iwasan po natin mag text speak dito sa forum para magkaintindihan tayo mabuti. Maraming salamat!

[dualcoil]

Okey, alamin natin ang power rating ng amp mo sa 4 ohms load at 2 ohms load. Ilan watts per channel sa 4 ohms? Ilan watts sa 2 ohms? Kung hindi nakalagay sa technical specifications, malamang hindi kaya mag 4-ohm load at delikado ang binabalak mong gawin na mag 2-per-side. Mas lalo na pag 2-ohms or 4-per-side. Pwede gawin kung gusto mo, pero delikado...

By the way, paki iwasan po natin mag text speak dito sa forum para magkaintindihan tayo mabuti. Maraming salamat

thanks ayan ang gus2 ko malaman sir... hehe.. ayun may indication nako  for the watts.. dapat pala alamin ko yung 4ohms and 2ohms.  kasi kaya ko lang po e2 na itanong. para kung sakali na masunugan ako ng amp. pwde ko ikabit yung 2 pair na speakers dun sa isang amp na ok pa... kung sakali lang. or maybe thier is a posible na masira din yung isa ko pang amp? kung sakali lang po na matira ang magnum amp ko. syempre hindi natin maiiwasan yun..

[Peter North]

mga sir.. thanks sa mga comment. pero nag kakamali po kayo kung ang AMp na address or 5.1 soround sound with a 550watts direct left and right channels  is pwde pang indoor lang.. as you ask.. gus2 mo i-try ko for outdoor young amp..

sir subok ko na po e2 for an address party ang amp. at talagang malakas. basically ang pang indoor lang po na mga amps. is hindi lalagpas ng 200watts per channel. if kung pang indoor po e2ng amp ko. na 550watts per channel.. eh halos magiba ang bahay namin sa sobrang lakas. so at nag kakalampagad ang bubong namin. its true becouse ako ang may ari ng amp. at tutuo po na malakas talaga ang amp. wala po nakalagay na home theater or para sa home theater po sya.. the amp has a 5.1 soround sound channels.. pero yun lang po ang capability nya for speakers.. if my soround speaker and center speaker ka na ikakabit. but the direct left and right. sobrang lakas po ng output. and i suggest na pwde po talga gamitin sa pang outdoor ang amp. kaya nya po sirain ang 300watts kagaya ng nabanggit ko. half plang po ang volume ko.. e2 ang settings

half volume of output..
bass at 1oclock
mid   at 8oclock
and high at 2oclock

yan palang ang settings ko sa amp at sobrang lakas na po. so this amp is not for indoor only but also for outdoor.

let me clear lang mga sir.. nag katalo lang po sila sa istura pero the amount of power and transister ng power amp sa address amp is the same..basta same din ang output wattage and ratings nya.. maganda lang sa power amp is yung itsura nya talagang pang professional.. kaya nga gus2 ko rin bumili ng power amp talga.  and for the cross over. gagana lang e2 kung meron kang amp bawat output.. that is for center. sub woofer.. high mid and low.. at kadalasan sa band concert ginagamit e2. as a new dj for my simple mobile.. i only preffer a 2 amps at yung speaker ko is for mid and low na.. and naka series na yung driver or tweeter.. saakin lang. sa mga mobile gig..

pero satingin ko nasagot monarin naman ang tanong kung walang kwenta hehe sori for this thread ha..

I really don't get it on why would you asked a question wherein meron kang sariling theory at sagot sa tanong mo. And everytime na meron sumagot sa tanong mo you tend to be defensive.

What do i mean by "outdoor" is a place where there are no room bounderies that can reinforce the sound coming out of your system. Pwede sa basketball court na open, walang bubong wherein the reinforcement lang na meron ka is the ground.

Peace dude...

[KitC]

I googled "magnum address amplifiers 5.1" and save for an audiophile system from Magnum Dynalab, I couldn't find any reference to magnum address amplifiers. There was one 5.1 system from D-sonic, but these used switching power technology and also appear to be for audiophile use as well. I can only imagine the stress these systems will have to endure in order to drive outdoor PA speakers.

[dualcoil]

I googled "magnum address amplifiers 5.1" and save for an audiophile system from Magnum Dynalab, I couldn't find any reference to magnum address amplifiers. There was one 5.1 system from D-sonic, but these used switching power technology and also appear to be for audiophile use as well. I can only imagine the stress these systems will have to endure in order to drive outdoor PA speakers.

yes.,. if you search on the internet or google. you can not see any information of the amp.. thats why nahihirapan ako sa pag configure ng speaker sa kanya. pero itseems pwde ko naman matansya sa pag tingin palang ng speaker coz hindi nya talaga kaya yung amp..

"address amp" another name lang po ng component amp yan.. its only creative name ng pinoy. para mo malaman agad kung ano itsura ng addrees amp sa power amp. kaya sya address amp. kasi hind sya pang karaniwang amp lang. pwe rin syang gawing power amp kasi sa lakas ng output nya.. as i say power amp and address amps are only image style deference. pero parehas sila transistor type,

ang component kasi pang bahay lang talaga at kadalasan 200watts lang ang pinakamtaas kya pang indoor performance lang. while the address amp is very high for indoor use only kaya pwde rin sya pang outdoor.

i think ang magnum amp is a sister company of konzert and sakura, the same kasi sila ng itsura.. japan made kasi sila.. meron sa clasiffied adds nag bebenta ng Konzert with speaker.. pls check it out.. ganun din po itsura ng magnum amp ko. walang pinag kaiba.. its the brand lang ang napalitan..

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,106247.0.html

e2 po ang mga amp na pang first timer sa mga mobile pa system.. and kaya nilang sabayan ang mga power amps.. brand lang po talga sila nag katalo at itsura.. mas proffesional look kasi ang mga power amps. and naka rocked mount sila sa gear holder mixer metal mo..

ang saakin lang. kung ilan ba kadalasan ginagamit ng mga mobile gigs.. sa sound system nila.. mayba 2 or more.? or kadalasan 2 amps lang sa maraming speaker.. hindi ko pakasi nalalapitan yung mga sound system kung talgang amp nila is mataas at isa or dalawa lang dala nila for the whole speakers.. meron kasi nag sabi,..kada isang amp pair daw dapat na speaker lang.. paano kung gus2 ko 2amps lang sa 8speakers na tig 300watts. at yung kaya lang ng budget ko.. kaya nga i preffer an address amp kasi mas mura sya sa mga power amp.. at gus2 ko malaman kung may naka subok na ng 300watts 4 pcs. speaker sa address amp na sinasabi ko?

bumigay ba ang amp? nasunog? nag bago ba ang tunog? mostly kahit power amp gus2 ko din malaman,. parehas naman sila ng spec. 500watts din po.. kung kaya ba? baka kasi pag kabit ko ng 2more 300watts sa amp ko. baka biglang umusok. kaya ask ko muna ang mga nakasubok.. thank sa mga comments and good music everyday

[edelprince1078]

bro meron ako nyan 5.1 surround amp pang videoke machine ko lng yan, kung gusto u talaga palakasin yan mobile u pwede k nmn makabili ng high end na power amp na 2nd hand tulad ng QSC, Crown kikilatisin u lng kung ok pa un performance saka mura mura un ganon kc talagang expensive un brand new ng ganyan power amp, saka marami ko friend na may mobile pero never ko sila nakita gumamit ng ganyan ampli sa gig nila...saka un 300 wats ng spkr bro ay pang mid ko lng yan, i suggest na medyo taasan u wattage ng spkr u lalo na pang sub...

[Tarkuz Toccata]

ang saakin lang. kung ilan ba kadalasan ginagamit ng mga mobile gigs.. sa sound system nila.. mayba 2 or more.? or kadalasan 2 amps lang sa maraming speaker.. hindi ko pakasi nalalapitan yung mga sound system kung talgang amp nila is mataas at isa or dalawa lang dala nila for the whole speakers.. meron kasi nag sabi,..kada isang amp pair daw dapat na speaker lang.. paano kung gus2 ko 2amps lang sa 8speakers na tig 300watts. at yung kaya lang ng budget ko.. kaya nga i preffer an address amp kasi mas mura sya sa mga power amp.. at gus2 ko malaman kung may naka subok na ng 300watts 4 pcs. speaker sa address amp na sinasabi ko?

4 corners dapat na criss-cross ang loudspeaker placement para kahit saan humarap ang tao sa dance floor, stereo pa rin ang naririnig. Dapat lagyan ng subwoofer para malakas ang bass. May proper ratio ang size at lakas ng subwoofer to hi-mid. Pwede isang power amp lang para sa 4 na hi-mid speakers at isang malakas na power amp para sa sub. Pero dapat ang power amp para sa hi-mid ay kaya i-handle ang 4 ohms load.

I hope you find this information useful.

[dualcoil]

4 corners dapat na criss-cross ang loudspeaker placement para kahit saan humarap ang tao sa dance floor, stereo pa rin ang naririnig. Dapat lagyan ng subwoofer para malakas ang bass. May proper ratio ang size at lakas ng subwoofer to hi-mid. Pwede isang power amp lang para sa 4 na hi-mid speakers at isang malakas na power amp para sa sub. Pero dapat ang power amp para sa hi-mid ay kaya i-handle ang 4 ohms load.

I hope you find this information useful.

ok thanks for the help.. maybe i need to buy a more powerful amp para sa sub. para makatyak n malakas talaga ang base. and for may magnum amp.gagawin ko nalang syang pang mid and high,. sa ngayon pag ttyagaan ko muna e2. ok naman sya pag dating sa bass handling. sa sept20 may gig kami sa makati. debut sya.. and planning to add a amp before that event thanks mga guys..

[SAITOHAJIME]

half volume of output..

Ganito rin lang ang setting ng konzert amp ko  (commonly used for videoke machines, pero gamit ko lang on small family occasions). Set it any higher and it will sound "basag". Akala ko yun speakers ang problema but after reading this thread, I found out that yun amp pala ang salarin.

[dualcoil]

@Peter North

I really don't get it on why would you asked a question wherein meron kang sariling theory at sagot sa tanong mo. And everytime na meron sumagot sa tanong mo you tend to be defensive.

What do i mean by "outdoor" is a place where there are no room bounderies that can reinforce the sound coming out of your system. Pwede sa basketball court na open, walang bubong wherein the reinforcement lang na meron ka is the ground.

Peace dude...

may nakasagot napo kasi nung tanong ko before your post..
From what I have heard, amps that have a home theater surround sound with a direct rms 550watts per channel, has a built-in theater surround sound. Hindi tulad ng ibang amps na power amps lang and no other capability, you need to buy some gear for that, to produce a cinema, hall, dance, home theater output for your speakers, and a 5.1 surround sound..

My question is, if you’re going to a basketball court and do a gig.. how many 550watts per channel rms output amp would you use, and how many speakers? Ok this question has been answered, that I should bring 2or 3 pieces of 550watts per channel with 2pair of 300watts speakers on each amps.


@SAITOHAJIME

Ganito rin lang ang setting ng konzert amp ko  (commonly used for videoke machines, pero gamit ko lang on small family occasions). Set it any higher and it will sound "basag". Akala ko yun speakers ang problema but after reading this thread, I found out that yun amp pala ang salarin.

see if your konzert amp has a RMS output sir, kasi yung amp ko po na "Magnum" has a 550watts RMS output and has a transistor type.. baka po I.C. type yung konzert nyo.. and see if your speakers are too much wattage for your amp.

sakin din po pwede pang videoke.. lahat naman po kahit power amp pwede naman din. pero ang basihan po is kung gaano sya kalakas,, at kung gaano kadami ang amp and speaker mo, kung sa pang home videoke lang. pwede na talaga ang 550watts na konzert with a I.C.type..

and base po sa mga nag sabi saakin., yung "konzert amp and magnum amp" is different.
yung "magnun amp and sakura amp " is iisang brand name lang.. which is the original model of a502 series, wala po sila sa google kasi japan po made lahat yun and hindi pwede ma view dito sa philippines ang site nila.. for the "Konzert" china made po at hindi maganda talaga ang pagkakagawa nila sa amp na yun. pero ok naman sya kapag sa mga home use and other small events na sa bahay lang..

again, before your post, may nakapag bigay sakin and help me which i thanks him very much. power ratings and wattage rms..and i have researched  na in google so i'm totaly sorry for the misunderstanding..

please lock this thread na,, thanks philmusic

[ryanbairan]

here are the simple answer to your questions

http://www.crownaudio.com/apps_htm/apps-ppa.htm

[los]

do you post questions in the forum so you can answer them? 

[dualcoil]

Posted on: Kahapon at 05:26:43 PMPosted by: los 
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do you post questions in the forum so you can answer them?   

may nakasagot napo kasi nung tanong ko before your post..

[dualcoil]

 

Posted on: Kahapon at 04:50:13 PMPosted by: ryanbairan 
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here are the simple answer to your questions

Thanks for the reply but your reply does not refer to my question..

My exact question is, how many 550watts per channel amplifier would you bring if your going to gig in a basketball court and how many speakers would you connect if you have a 300watts speakers for each channel..

That’s my exact question.. But as you read at the first post. It didn’t have the exact question so it got confused and mixed up a little bit. So other commented me in which if my amp can do outdoor gigs.. so I reply that it can.. but they ask me if I have tested it, and so yes I have tested it.. so the topic went through and through,

And again, sorry for my confusing questions and I’ll try to post a clearer questions again if I have some.. any way,, thanks for the comments and reply thanks for your time,

Hanggang sa uulitin nalang mga sir.. This thread has been answered and need to be locked.. where’s the moderator when you need e’m..
 

[westcost_16]

bro san ba ako makakabili ng second hand na power am like nung sinasabi mo? ung ndi gnun kmahal per pwdeng pang sabayn sa ibang power amp,,