DIY Acoustics and Soundproofing Thread

[skin]

ah.. ok madali lang pala sa echo
yung ceiling kase plywood lang, paanong remedyo gagawin ko dun? anong material ilalagay ko at paano installation?

http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-to-soundproof-a-ceiling

[bulok]

^ ano kaya ang pwedeng alternative sa fiberglass para sa ceiling?

[mikep]

Depends on your needs.  If you want to control noise through voice of people, you can use acoustical tile.  If you just want to absorb certain frequencies, high to mid, maybe you can look at Rock Wool.  Big hardware store would have it.

[fredzs]

anyone got any resource for cheap thick drapes or moving blankets? I need to control my small 4m x 4m room reverberation. Drums sound too loud.

[bulok]

ang gypsum board o hardiflex ba ay pang soundproof o pang acoustic treatment? kaylangan ko kasi ng pang soundproof

[plitipiw40315]

ang gypsum board o hardiflex ba ay pang soundproof o pang acoustic treatment? kaylangan ko kasi ng pang soundproof

more on acoustic treatment bro.. 

[mikep]

ang gypsum board o hardiflex ba ay pang soundproof o pang acoustic treatment? kaylangan ko kasi ng pang soundproof

To stop sound, you need solid materials.  Gypsum and cemboard or Hardiflex are examples of solid materials that are used to stop sound.  Cement, woodboard, rubber and even plastic or limp mass are also used in combination with other materials are also employed.  To control sound, like lessen its volume in the room, or temper certain frequencies in a room, usually referred to as acoustic control, absorptive materials such as glass fiber, rock wall, etc. or diffusive elements like poly-cylindricals or Schoeder diffusers (commonly known by its brand, RPG) and solid materials designed to reflect or re-direct sound, or act as panel absorbers, are used.  Gypsum board and cemboard are more for .... soundproofing.

[Jason@gensan]

gud pm po mga sir! ask ko lang po kung anong pwedeng alternative sa green glue na available locally. TIA!

[yetsky]

mga sir san ba ko makakabili ng acoustic foam? balak ko lang gumawa nito... http://www.recordproducer.com/?a=408     

salamat!

[plitipiw40315]

Patulong naman po mga masters, currently nagpapagawa po ako ng "drum room" ko,hingi naman po ako ng advice kung anong magandang gawin sa walls para ma soundproof.Ano pa pong improvement ang dapat kong gawin para masulit ang pagpapaconstruct ko?salamat..

Eto po ibang details

-mga 280 po ang ceiling height
-mga 13' x 11' po ang rough estimate ko sa inside area nya.
-Concrete slab po lahat ng walls, ceiling at floor.
-Plano ko pong maglagay ng 2 doors at 2 na mejo maliit na windows.
-ang original na plano ko po ay gumawa pa ng isang inside wall, sandwhich ang cotton fiber, then plywood.

[Xelly]

Mga sir hingi sana ako ng tulong or suggetions sa inyo. Super small budget lang kasi ako sir kaya DIY mode ako. Hingi ko goal na masoundproof yung room ko. Basta ang importante is acoustic treatment.
Meron akong small room na may dimensions na 9ft-width by 8ft-length by 7ft-height. Yung ceiling nitong room ay plywood. Yung isang side ay plywood wall din. May isang side na concrete wall pero shelves siya. Puno yung shelves ng mga damit at libro. Tapos yung last 2 sides is concrete talaga. Ang ginawa ko yung 2 walls na concrete sinandalan ko ng mga Uratex na bed na mga 5inches yung kapal. So halos wala nang makitang concrete wall kasi puro kutchon na. Tapos yung sahig 50% is nalagyan ko ng carpet. Yung carpet is nasa ilalim ng monitors(HS50m). Sa ceiling wala akong nilagay. Pati dun sa isang wall na plywood wala rin. Tanong ko lang sir ok na kaya yan for yung tipong "saktong" room acoustics treatment lang? Uber low budget lang kasi ako. Or may suggestions ba kayo? Malaking tulong yun sir!!!


Ang goal ko lang is makapagmix/master ako ng mga tracks ko sa monitors ko ng walang bahid ng kulay na madadagdag yung kwarto. TIA

[mikep]

Mahirap i compute kasi walang data yung mga materyales na inilagay mo.  Pero, if you think it sounds good and right, ok na.  This is what you do.  Get a CD that you like listening to and are familiar with.  Try to notice the nuances of the mix of a song, i. e., hi freq - cymbals, crash and ride; low frequency like bass, mid low like kick, voice for mid high and others.  Try to see if there is balance in your room, or if certain elements in the song seems to jump out.  If you think, the sound seem to be balanced and is not at all harsh, the room is ok.  Or if there are any problem frequencies, keep notice of these frequencies and you either boost or cut them in your room, to compensate for what is lacking or over.  A good room is a room that you are very familiar with, and that you know the anomalies of the room and compensate them in your mix.

[Xelly]

Mahirap i compute kasi walang data yung mga materyales na inilagay mo.  Pero, if you think it sounds good and right, ok na.  This is what you do.  Get a CD that you like listening to and are familiar with.  Try to notice the nuances of the mix of a song, i. e., hi freq - cymbals, crash and ride; low frequency like bass, mid low like kick, voice for mid high and others.  Try to see if there is balance in your room, or if certain elements in the song seems to jump out.  If you think, the sound seem to be balanced and is not at all harsh, the room is ok.  Or if there are any problem frequencies, keep notice of these frequencies and you either boost or cut them in your room, to compensate for what is lacking or over.  A good room is a room that you are very familiar with, and that you know the anomalies of the room and compensate them in your mix.

Grabe anlupet ninyo sir!!! The best!! maraming salamat ganda ng advice ninyo!!!

[plitipiw40315]

up? 

Patulong naman po mga masters, currently nagpapagawa po ako ng "drum room" ko,hingi naman po ako ng advice kung anong magandang gawin sa walls para ma soundproof.Ano pa pong improvement ang dapat kong gawin para masulit ang pagpapaconstruct ko?salamat..

Eto po ibang details

-mga 280 po ang ceiling height
-mga 13' x 11' po ang rough estimate ko sa inside area nya.
-Concrete slab po lahat ng walls, ceiling at floor.
-Plano ko pong maglagay ng 2 doors at 2 na mejo maliit na windows.
-ang original na plano ko po ay gumawa pa ng isang inside wall, sandwhich ang cotton fiber, then plywood.

[alien_inside]

mga sir san ba ko makakabili ng acoustic foam? balak ko lang gumawa nito... http://www.recordproducer.com/?a=408     

salamat!

orderin mo sa states bro, they will ship it to you.... i dont know any supplier in the phils.

[ron15]

Hello guys! Good thread! Sumakit mata ko kakaback read...   

Stumbled on this thread while looking on how to sound proof my room. Drum room specifically. That's the only reason why I still do not have a drum kit right now.

(Medyo OT, just want to release some of my frustrations hahaha...  )
The worst thing ever is dreaming about your kit then sometime when you gain consciousness, you realized you can't cause the music you make might just be an annoying noise on the ears of your neighbor and give them a reason to throw rocks at your house. Then you found a solution, soundproofing. But you again realize that your money is just enough for your drum kit and a somewhat decent cymbals. Researched more hoping for a cheap solution. Then Learned that sound proofing might be much more expensive than your kit to work. You found a solution, have a bigger budget!  Then realize you are still jobless.(That's another story. hahaha..) Ouch!!!  Thinking of it really annoys me. 

Anyway I'll keep on looking at this thread. Hopefully I might be able to have enough money to build a drum room. Miracle happens! 

[remla02]

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Sir tatanong ko lang anong klaseng foam po ang ginamit nya dito? Normal foam lang ba ung mga nabibili sa uratex? Gusto ko kasi subukan to, no budget sa professional soundproofing eh.

[mikep]

That's Rockwool placed in a wood framing which is 2 feet by 4 feet, using 1 or 1 1/2" X 4" wood planks.  A textile covers the entire thing.  Definitely, this absorber, which is not a sound proofing tool, rather an acoustic absorber to control high and mid frequency, will cost you more than what he estimated it to be.  But I could be wrong.  If you want to sound proof your room, this is not the treatment.  You need mass or layers to contain sound.  Once you've done that, then you have to tame the room's frequency response.  This is the treatment for that.  But you need something to take care of the low frequencies also.  It is a never ending quest.

[straightwire]

To stop sound, you need solid materials.  Gypsum and cemboard or Hardiflex are examples of solid materials that are used to stop sound.  Cement, woodboard, rubber and even plastic or limp mass are also used in combination with other materials are also employed.  To control sound, like lessen its volume in the room, or temper certain frequencies in a room, usually referred to as acoustic control, absorptive materials such as glass fiber, rock wall, etc. or diffusive elements like poly-cylindricals or Schoeder diffusers (commonly known by its brand, RPG) and solid materials designed to reflect or re-direct sound, or act as panel absorbers, are used.  Gypsum board and cemboard are more for .... soundproofing.

Sir how about MDF board ok ba yun na gawin  pintuan instead na gypsum or plywood

[plitipiw40315]

tanong po mga master, nakakatulong po ba sa pag tame low freq. pag ganito ang set up ko sa mounted speaker.

-wall
-5" gap
-speaker
plano ko pong lagyan ng foam yung gap bet wall at speaker..TIA 

[mikep]

Sir how about MDF board ok ba yun na gawin  pintuan instead na gypsum or plywood

No problem.  As long as you put some insulation inside the door panel and make the doors as thick as possible.  There are limitations though.

[mikep]

tanong po mga master, nakakatulong po ba sa pag tame low freq. pag ganito ang set up ko sa mounted speaker.

-wall
-5" gap
-speaker
plano ko pong lagyan ng foam yung gap bet wall at speaker..TIA 

Nope.  Control of low frequency means you either absorb that frequency through thick fuzz or through panel lymphatic type absorbers. 5" gap will only absorb about 700 to 3,000 hz.  which not even within the bass region.

[plitipiw40315]

Nope.  Control of low frequency means you either absorb that frequency through thick fuzz or through panel lymphatic type absorbers. 5" gap will only absorb about 700 to 3,000 hz.  which not even within the bass region.

whoa, that's sad sir mike, even if i'll put foam on two sides?? whats the best remedy then sir? i have a room w/c is approximately  11ft. by 13ft.

[mikep]

What are your speakers?  Put you speaker system in a floor mount, about ear height.  Form a triangle between your two speakers and your head or mix position.  Try to make the equidistant as near as possible.  So, near field.  Keep the speakers away from the wall about 2 to 3 ft. Put 2" to 4" glass fiber 48 kg/m3 on your front wall and 1" glass fiber 48 kg/m3 half way through your side wall, from mid or waist level up until 7 feet.  This will just tame a bit of mid and high frequency.  Make music.  Hope this helps.

[plitipiw40315]

What are your speakers?  Put you speaker system in a floor mount, about ear height.  Form a triangle between your two speakers and your head or mix position.  Try to make the equidistant as near as possible.  So, near field.  Keep the speakers away from the wall about 2 to 3 ft. Put 2" to 4" glass fiber 48 kg/m3 on your front wall and 1" glass fiber 48 kg/m3 half way through your side wall, from mid or waist level up until 7 feet.  This will just tame a bit of mid and high frequency.  Make music.  Hope this helps.

parang ganito po yung speaker sir mike.


ganito po roughly yung magiging set up ng room.

i was planning to put curtains nalang po beside the speaker at sa opposite side, at the back of drums at sa right side din ng drums.