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Title: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: Igor on July 09, 2015, 09:54:45 AM

     Mga sir ask ko lang. nangangarap ako magkasasakyan. Kasi 4 na kami and hindi na kami kasya sa motor.(and Bawal naman talaga may bata sa motor  :-()

     Ang Alam ko lang na malapit sa katotohanan na pwede ko mabili na 4 wheels eh ung mga lancer na boxtype na mura and Owner type jeep lang.

    Ano ba para sa inyo ang mas ok. wala naman ako balak dalhin sa probinsya. Pang Pasyal lang.TIA
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: qroon on July 09, 2015, 10:06:42 AM
Kung may matinong aircon yung bkx type, yun ang kunin mo.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: Igor on July 09, 2015, 10:21:36 AM

 thanks sa rep sir qroon. most po ng nakikita ko na binebenta is walang freon yung aircon or need palinis yung aircon.
 pero meron din nman na gumagana. Tnx po uli
 
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: marzi on July 09, 2015, 11:06:16 PM
thanks sa rep sir qroon. most po ng nakikita ko na binebenta is walang freon yung aircon or need palinis yung aircon.
 pero meron din nman na gumagana. Tnx po uli

pinag awayan na yang topic na yan ng mga 2nd hand car dealers sa fb group na sinusundan ko. ang advertised eh "needs freon replacement" pag may issue ang aircon. ang argument ng mga honest dealers ay "pag wala ng freon, may sira o butas ang tubings ng aircon".

which makes sense. pag tumatagas ang aircon tubings, tatapon lang ang ipapalit na freon. either you have it repaired or you replace the whole thing.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: fizz450_03 on July 10, 2015, 04:16:24 AM
I vote boxtype. You and your family will be loads safer in one, considering it is well maintained.

Why are you considering a boxtype though? It's pretty old (about 30 years) and while parts can be had pretty easily as long you're savvy with buying and spending for it, and owning one isn't exactly a walk in the park.

Magkano budget mo bro? Maybe I can point you to better options.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: red lights on July 10, 2015, 08:02:04 AM
how about the volkswagen (beetle)?
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: mammonchipz on July 10, 2015, 08:31:59 AM
BOXTYPE! :-D


I have always wanted to own one kahit nung elementary pa ako medyo nag sisisi ako dahil I listened to my dad na huwag kumuha ng lumang kotse panget daw ang rust proofing ang kaha konti daw piyesa etc etc and a lot of non sense. well it made sense to me ngayon kung bakit ganun siya kasi he was not really a car guy. more on gamit lang talga thats why 3 years ago nung nagka pera na ako ng kaunti i decided to get a lancer pero di boxtype hehe pizza na. I could buy one now in a heartbeat if my wife permits me hahaha naka intrega lahat sweldo eh haha


anyways I just regret na hindi ako naka kuha ng box a few years ago I could have traded one of my guitars for one haha


I think makaka kuha ka ng around 25k to 50k lang kaso yung 25k medyo marami ng pagawain

Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: fizz450_03 on July 10, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
in general, if someone who's new to cars would ask me for my opinion about getting a second hand car, i would always tell them to try and get something that is "relatively" modelo. by this i mean yung mga tipong mid to late 90's vehicles up, preferably from big name japanese car makers.

why?

- apart from the very basic models, most manufacturers had already switched to EFI, which is far more reliable than a similar carbureted engine. most already have power steering or if not, rack and pinion na. you no longer have to be a body builder to wrestle the car around.
- parts are easier to come by (especially helpful if you need to replace body parts that are already in need of replacement)
- they are still relatively simple to work on, and can still be serviced by a local mechanic
- they do not look that aged and are more comfortable to ride in
- they are safer than real old school cars in the event of a collision since they were already designed to take impacts away from passengers. wag kayo maniwala na dahil mas matigas kaha ng old school e mas ligtas ka. in most cases, you're more likely to get hurt in one.

also, a relatively sound budget of 100k will get you a readily driveable mid 90's car (corolla, lancer etc) with much less pagawain and headaches than an old school car. someone new to having a car will be far better off with a car that he can ride in reliably daily, than a car that requires frequent maintenance.




...unless you're a die hard old school fan, willing to get your hands dirty, willing to have days that your car simply runs awful and requires more than frequent maintenance, or simply want the feeling of being able to drive a fully mechanical car that. if you can help it, get a more modern car or save up for one then you'll be off driving and enjoying in no time.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: Igor on July 11, 2015, 12:33:41 AM
I vote boxtype. You and your family will be loads safer in one, considering it is well maintained.

Why are you considering a boxtype though? It's pretty old (about 30 years) and while parts can be had pretty easily as long you're savvy with buying and spending for it, and owning one isn't exactly a walk in the park.

Magkano budget mo bro? Maybe I can point you to better options.



   Balak ko sir mga nasa 25-35k lang po. kaya talagang konti lang option ko.  :-D
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: fizz450_03 on July 11, 2015, 03:48:36 AM



   Balak ko sir mga nasa 25-35k lang po. kaya talagang konti lang option ko.  :-D

kung di sir nagmamadali at kaya ng budget, consider mo na iraise pa ng kaunti kasi at 25 - 35k, bihira yung immediately drivable and reliable for
use. remember kaya siya binebenta ng mura ay baka may issues. and those issues will cost you time (that you could've spent using the vehicle),
money (that you could've spent somewhere else) and stress (when you could be driving with a smile). unless nga kako that you're the car guy
who's looking for a project car to restore or something.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: marzi on July 11, 2015, 06:03:24 AM
silly question: bakit sobrang mura ng bitaw sa mga high end na 90's to mid 90's na oto? cefiro for 110 - 150k? accord for the same price? is it because of the gas guzzling engine that those cars possess at nakikita nilang malabong mabili yung unit dahil dun? at 99% of the time, pag ganun ang kotse, ang baba talaga ng price.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: fizz450_03 on July 11, 2015, 06:43:11 AM
silly question: bakit sobrang mura ng bitaw sa mga high end na 90's to mid 90's na oto? cefiro for 110 - 150k? accord for the same price? is it because of the gas guzzling engine that those cars possess at nakikita nilang malabong mabili yung unit dahil dun? at 99% of the time, pag ganun ang kotse, ang baba talaga ng price.


those cars mentioned are already 20 years old paps, or at least nearing that age. possibly gawa nga na "gas guzzling" sila
compared to newer cars. i actually want another car na mga ganong edad, easier to maintain, and the car still somehow "talks to you".
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: dharzfreeman on July 11, 2015, 08:17:16 AM



   Balak ko sir mga nasa 25-35k lang po. kaya talagang konti lang option ko.  :-D

Hanap ka ng box type na matino ang aircon.. pero ang priority mo naman yun maitransport kayo..
bibihira na box type na ok ang aircon.. suwerte mo kapag meron kunin mo na
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: fizz450_03 on July 11, 2015, 08:44:22 AM
Hanap ka ng box type na matino ang aircon.. pero ang priority mo naman yun maitransport kayo..
bibihira na box type na ok ang aircon.. suwerte mo kapag meron kunin mo na

true. and apart from that, most may be in shoddy condition.

also, boxtype lancers have become a collectible item, and on it's way to becoming a restoration favorite. a pristine condition
boxtype will fetch a hefty amount.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: dharzfreeman on July 11, 2015, 08:57:23 AM
true. and apart from that, most may be in shoddy condition.

also, boxtype lancers have become a collectible item, and on it's way to becoming a restoration favorite. a pristine condition
boxtype will fetch a hefty amount.

yep..

ako naman may mitsubishi lancer 89..hindi na box type..racing type na body.. pero binenta ko for 60k wala na kasi mapagparkingan lagi na lang nasa labas at kinakalawang..todo tawad si atty tapos ibibigay nya lang pala sa anak ng kabit nya  ^-^
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: marzi on July 11, 2015, 09:01:17 AM

those cars mentioned are already 20 years old paps, or at least nearing that age. possibly gawa nga na "gas guzzling" sila
compared to newer cars. i actually want another car na mga ganong edad, easier to maintain, and the car still somehow "talks to you".
And if im not mistaken, those units have larger engines than the typical sedans right? Naka v6 pa rin ba ang mga 90s na cefiro? Really itching to get my hand on one of those. Nagkalat e.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: tipipeski on July 11, 2015, 11:58:05 AM
Boxtype pards,

kahit kumuha ka ng 90's + na corolla, napakaganda ng makina nun.

Kaso dapat i-mamaintain mo na lang talaga, maging mabusisi ka,
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: Igor on July 12, 2015, 08:52:13 AM

  Thanks guys for the inputs, just in case nga na boxtype piliin ko, kelangan may xtra sa budget ko para sa mga ipapagawa.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: mammonchipz on July 13, 2015, 06:42:27 AM
And if im not mistaken, those units have larger engines than the typical sedans right? Naka v6 pa rin ba ang mga 90s na cefiro? Really itching to get my hand on one of those. Nagkalat e.


Malakas yan sa gas paps and kadalasan ng ganito automatic. karamihan ng mga big sedans malalaki talaga ang makina if you live naman sa hindi mataong lugar or semi probinsya kagaya ng sata rosa eh okay to dahil hindi naman masyadong trapik pero kung dito sa manila hehe wag nalang baka mas madalas pa ang pag daan mo sa gas station hehe
mostly naman these types of cars mga cefiro na late 90's, galant na naka v6 at mga camry na luma majority ng nakikita ko is in really good condition. maganda pintura interior even the engine looks and sounds good. lata ang mga kaha at mababa ang milyahe. siguro nga kasi bihira siyang gamitin. maganda mag hanap ng ganito sa mga village ng mayayaman hehe mura kasi mag benta.

pati nga expedition ngayon at f150 na luma ang mura din eh. I have seen one go as low as 270k I compared sa presyo nito dati

Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: dharzfreeman on July 14, 2015, 10:07:01 PM
kung ako kay ts.. in reality sa budget nya magtipon na lang muna siya..

kasi sa mga old model, kapag sinabayan mo pa ng aircon tiyak magastos sa gas.. kapag hindi pa siya sigurado sa aircon kung may leak pa sistema.. overheat aabutin nya
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: Igor on July 15, 2015, 02:23:33 AM

   Tingin ko tama nga siguro. ipunin ko na lang muna para madagdagan. baka makakuha nga ako mura tapos madami ipapagawa. parang ganun din.

   Salamat mga Sirs.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: fizz450_03 on July 15, 2015, 05:08:23 AM
   Tingin ko tama nga siguro. ipunin ko na lang muna para madagdagan. baka makakuha nga ako mura tapos madami ipapagawa. parang ganun din.

   Salamat mga Sirs.

oo sir, ipunin mo na lang pera mo for something else na less expense to maintain. kasi it's not just the expense you'll deal with. you also have to deal with the downtime ng oto mo imbis na nagagamit mo siya.




And if im not mistaken, those units have larger engines than the typical sedans right? Naka v6 pa rin ba ang mga 90s na cefiro? Really itching to get my hand on one of those. Nagkalat e.

some yes, pero if you ask me kasi, by buying a large sedan talagang kaakibat niya ang additional expense for the gas because of the larger engine. but just because it's a V6 doesn't mean it's gas guzzling, unless it's a large displacement engine. nasanay kasi tayong pinoy with 1.3L engines na matipid hehe
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: jeba_03 on July 15, 2015, 10:01:32 AM
Sir,

Browse mo mitsulancerph.org , meron group dun per model. You can read about common problems or parts availability there. Very helpful naman ang mga members dun.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: fizz450_03 on July 16, 2015, 10:04:28 AM
Sir,

Browse mo mitsulancerph.org , meron group dun per model. You can read about common problems or parts availability there. Very helpful naman ang mga members dun.


agree.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: mozart123 on July 19, 2015, 02:35:20 PM
modelo na bilhin mo di mo masabi baka sabihin ng LTO  iphaseout na mga lumang mga sasakyan.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: dharzfreeman on July 20, 2015, 06:25:31 PM
^totoo yan baka nga implement na yan

btw.. yang LTO na yan.. may scam na naman sila ngayon sa naging illegal na contrata sa mga bagong plate number
wala man lang makasuhan.. husay talaga ng DOJ at TOMbudsman  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: Igor on May 19, 2016, 08:34:37 AM
modelo na bilhin mo di mo masabi baka sabihin ng LTO  iphaseout na mga lumang mga sasakyan.

   Wala pa din enough Budget till now....
   Mga Sir na implement na ba na di ipphase out na yung mga old model na oto?
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: mozart123 on May 19, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
hindi pa pero who knows abangers ka muna sa admin ni duterte.
Title: Re: Lancer na Boxtype o Owner?
Post by: Igor on May 20, 2016, 10:34:58 AM


  Copy, tnx Sir Mozart