Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?

[JojoD818]

Madami na din palang tubero dito... 

[vhunter]

Nagawa na yan ng AxeFx. And it really does sound good!

Alex in the studio and big venues axe will kill any tube amp. Practicality pa lang panalo na specially on a loud stage.  For small room and the bar gig there's still nothing like a tube amp.


As a rule of thumb if you're dependent on monitors the axe will just kill it.

[Nelson de Leon]

Madami na din palang tubero dito... 

Tubero ka din tukayo di ba? Nagbubuo ka pa nga ng mga tube amps from ground up!

[chazkidlat]

im confused

Solid state pre amp ba to?

60watts

2 x 6L6 GC

1 x 12ax7

May reverb sya. Posible na reverb loop nya yung 12ax7
Tpos solid state yung pre amp nya? Kaya ba ng isang 12ax7 ang 60watts?   Nakaka depress haha i need your help guys!

http://www.guitarsjapan.com/1976_Jugg_Box_Stuff_O60G_Tube_Amplifier.html

[rowley75]

im confused

Solid state pre amp ba to?

60watts

2 x 6L6 GC

1 x 12ax7

May reverb sya. Posible na reverb loop nya yung 12ax7
Tpos solid state yung pre amp nya? Kaya ba ng isang 12ax7 ang 60watts?   Nakaka depress haha i need your help guys!

http://www.guitarsjapan.com/1976_Jugg_Box_Stuff_O60G_Tube_Amplifier.html

imo, all tube.
kaya naman ata ng isang 12ax7.

[spankyrigor]

Kaya ba ng isang 12ax7 ang 60watts?

kaya naman ata ng isang 12ax7.

The pair of 6L6's are responsible for the 60 watts. Walang kinalaman ang 12AX7 sa wattage*.



*unless of course you're using a 12AX7 as a power tube. The fact that there are 6L6'S in the circuit means that's probably not the case.

[fretzburner]

Solid state preamp yata yan at tube power section.12AX7 maybe the phase inverter

[chazkidlat]

Solid state preamp yata yan at tube power section.12AX7 maybe the phase inverter

Questions:

Ano yung phase inverter?

How will i know na solid state pre amp?

Pwede ko pa ba ipa rewire sa specialist convert to 12ax7 tube pre amp?

If yes, Sino sino ang may kaya? Mang raul? Who else?


Thanks brothers!

[ubersam]

Questions:

Ano yung phase inverter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_inversion

How will i know na solid state pre amp?

Pwedeng two-stage tube preamp using a single 12AX7 tapos solid state na phase inverter using high-voltage FETs (probably MOSFETs). Pwede ring solid state yung preamp tapos tube yung phase inverter. Mahirap masabi unless ma-inspect yung circuit nya. Pero malamang yung, former, kasi magdedesign ka na rin lang using one 12AX7, why not use it in the preamp. Well, yan ang hula ko.

[agent_otso]

kanya kanya pa ding preference yan sir.but for me, ganito ang preference ko haha pag open area - tube,pag bar at medyo kulob - SS. 
 

[jimny]

If yes, Sino sino ang may kaya? Mang raul? Who else?

spankyrigor can help you

[johnravacio]

im confused

Solid state pre amp ba to?

60watts

2 x 6L6 GC

1 x 12ax7

May reverb sya. Posible na reverb loop nya yung 12ax7
Tpos solid state yung pre amp nya? Kaya ba ng isang 12ax7 ang 60watts?   Nakaka depress haha i need your help guys!

http://www.guitarsjapan.com/1976_Jugg_Box_Stuff_O60G_Tube_Amplifier.html

All tube 'to brad! This is similar or clone circuit to Mesa Boogie Mark I. The first 12ax7 used as a driver and the 2nd is for the reverb tank and/or FX Loop.

Check out the schematics of Boogie Mark I here:

http://schems.com/manu/mesaboogie/mesaboogie.htm

If you're from Imus or Bacoor Cavite, I can help you with it. Let's make it "Hot Rodded" hahahah

[fretzburner]

If Stuff 060G talaga model nyan it's all tube. My Stuff 020 is solidstate preamp and tube power amp (EL34 and 12ax7)

[chazkidlat]

All tube 'to brad! This is similar or clone circuit to Mesa Boogie Mark I. The first 12ax7 used as a driver and the 2nd is for the reverb tank and/or FX Loop.

Check out the schematics of Boogie Mark I here:

http://schems.com/manu/mesaboogie/mesaboogie.htm

If you're from Imus or Bacoor Cavite, I can help you with it. Let's make it "Hot Rodded" hahahah

Sure pm me ur facebook account! Confused ang ako kung isa lang 12ax7 nya for pre amp..pano na pshae inverter? Lets chat about this sa fb hahaha mahaba habang usapan to

[johnravacio]

Sure pm me ur facebook account! Confused ang ako kung isa lang 12ax7 nya for pre amp..pano na pshae inverter? Lets chat about this sa fb hahaha mahaba habang usapan to

johnravacio din fb ko brad, usually night time lang ako nag-lologin. Anyway, if you can take a picture of your amps gut and can post it here and/or http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=101243.1250 that would be great!

A lot of DIYers can help you with it.

[Nelson de Leon]

Questions:

Ano yung phase inverter?

How will i know na solid state pre amp?

Pwede ko pa ba ipa rewire sa specialist convert to 12ax7 tube pre amp?

If yes, Sino sino ang may kaya? Mang raul? Who else?


Thanks brothers!

PM mo si jojod. he is one of the tube specialist. I can testify to that.

http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?action=profile;u=28269

12ax& are usually used as pre amp tubes.

[kuntakinde]

Questions:

Pwede ko pa ba ipa rewire sa specialist convert to 12ax7 tube pre amp?

If yes, Sino sino ang may kaya? Mang raul? Who else?


Thanks brothers!

Pwede kaso hindi practical, parang yang bungalow na lalagyan mo ng second floor. Marami kang aalisin at pagsisiksikan mo sa maliit na space yung ilalagay mong bago. May gastos na sayang tapos hindi pa properly designed. Tapos tulad din ng mga remodelled house minsan hindi mo rin gusto yung outcome. Kung ako yan hanap na lang ako ng full tube na gusto mo ang tunog. Iba iba rin kasi ang tube amp.

[Magus]

It depends on the type of music that you play..

For me, when I went Tube, I never looked back to SS.

I read somewhere that Dimebag used a solid state amp with Pantera.

[analog.matt]

pag chug chug talaga may SS na binabagayan.

pero may detubo din na maganda sa chugchug.


there are tube amps and there are good tube amps. old tube amps are really awesome. may "magic". hindi porket luma, same year and model, magkatunog na. nope. meron talaga maganda bumuga.

[bryanarzaga]

It depends on the type of music that you play..

For me, when I went Tube, I never looked back to SS.

I read somewhere that Dimebag used a solid state amp with Pantera.

the Randall RG100 are tight sounding amps and they do sound good

[Magus]

pag chug chug talaga may SS na binabagayan.

pero may detubo din na maganda sa chugchug.


there are tube amps and there are good tube amps. old tube amps are really awesome. may "magic". hindi porket luma, same year and model, magkatunog na. nope. meron talaga maganda bumuga.


I agree. I tried a soundtest between my vintage JCM 800 vs a friends re issue. Magkaiba.Mas makapal ang tunog ng vintage and mas open, bigger sound. Though mas ma gain ung re-issue medyo manipis compared sa vintage. Not that manipis ung tunog ng reissue, just that nas makapal ung tunog ng vintage.

[soundhole8]

Mga sir, noob question po.

Anong tube amp combo ang marerecommend nyo? Budget is 40K or lower.
I want an amp with a very good clean sound. Thanks in advance.

[jun_gats]

pag chug chug talaga may SS na binabagayan.

pero may detubo din na maganda sa chugchug.


there are tube amps and there are good tube amps. old tube amps are really awesome. may "magic". hindi porket luma, same year and model, magkatunog na. nope. meron talaga maganda bumuga.


I agree. I tried a soundtest between my vintage JCM 800 vs a friends re issue. Magkaiba.Mas makapal ang tunog ng vintage and mas open, bigger sound. Though mas ma gain ung re-issue medyo manipis compared sa vintage. Not that manipis ung tunog ng reissue, just that nas makapal ung tunog ng vintage.

I would agree, dipende din sa setup ng equipments. mix and match lang tlga until you get the right combination and settings.

[randymarsh]

Mga sir, noob question po.

Anong tube amp combo ang marerecommend nyo? Budget is 40K or lower.
I want an amp with a very good clean sound. Thanks in advance.

peavey classic 30, laney LC30

[analog.matt]

Basta pag clean sound, fender amps ang da best. Dyan sila nakilala, aside from the guitars. However im not comfortable with the new small fender amps.i had reliability issues with the pro jr. Hindi ko din alam ano pasok na models ng fender na de tubo sa 40k.